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wickedtuna:@the first bolded. You got the whole point wrong. The point here is, How do you know God exists without believing in Him, or in His Words first? If you follow my premise, I have stated that before you get to know God, Faith that He exists comes first. You cannot know Him without believing in Him first. If you believe in Him, that is, in His Words, He will be the one to grant you illumination, insight or the revelation (what we Christians call Rhema), to know Him. You can't do that the way the people of the world go about it. You breath that is God? How do you know that? You just got up and know it is God? How can you tell? Can prove it's God? How do you know He created the earth? You know for a fact that He did? Prove it. I asked you how you wld know an iron is a metal (in the first place) which has the tendency to be hot if heated if it was Invisible? Pls address all my points. Thanks. |
wickedtuna:This is not Science where you go into the lab to put experiments t test, this is Christianity. This following a Spirit. An entity you cannot see or feel. The only way you can know Him enough to follow Him to where He leads, is to first believe that He even exists. You are told an iron is hot, but you have never seen an iron before. To know it, you wld have to first see it right? Now, the iron is invisible, so you, a material being, cannot see nor touch. How then can you know what an iron is, to know it's hot? You folks wants to follow Jesus with your senses, but, it won't work. For, "without faith it is impossible to please him: ~~for he that cometh to God must believe that he is~~, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him." Hebrews 11:6 No one can know God without first believing in Him. Budaatum is preaching New Age, and t won't cut here. |
CodeTemplar:My dear the way scientists wants to project satan to the World. In movies, in Music, in fashion, all kinds of inventions. What surprises me is why humans wld want to serve satan. |
CodeTemplar:My brother, the thing tire me. The way Igbo people want become Jews eh. Make we koko dash dem Jesus nah. I for still believe and Love am like say na igbo man him bin be. |
michaelkaroh:No. Abeg Na wo for hia no the village for Enugu state wey Jesus from? |
OkCornel:Thank you for understanding. |
MuttleyLaff:Ha. No be weytin Bible talk? I don't know otherwise o. |
michaelkaroh:I know now. Abeg remind me that his Village name again. |
MuttleyLaff:I don beg Cornel, him no gree, make I beg you. Pls stop responding to him. Abeg. |
michaelkaroh:I knew we wld get here. Jesus Christ was from Enugu. |
OkCornel:Pls let's move on. |
OkCornel:Let homosexuality stay in homosexuality thread nah? Me I don tire sef. |
MuttleyLaff:Pls guys let's calm now. it's a discussion nothing Personal. |
Anas09:Yes sir. |
OkCornel:No sir. |
OkCornel:Yes, I know about Rebecca Brown. And yes her works according to my classification can pass for revealing "The Deep Things of Satan" I'm with a walking that's the distance of services on. This is the reason. When The Lord was on earth, Satan was active as he is today, but, the Lord didn't leave preaching His kingdom to dwell on what satan was doing. All he did when He met them was cast them out, no questions asked. If am wrong correct me pls. No Apostle's writings reflects the style of Rebecca Brown's. Just like their master, they never recognize satan to talk about him. As far as I'm concerned, Rebecca Brown's disciples will leave In perpetual fear and torment of satan and his hordes. Her messages are geared to induce fear and hopelessness in the way the societies today, not remembering that satan has always been here but the Church has continued to match forward. She gives too much information about satan, and too little about the Kingdom of Jesus which she was supposedly called to preach. She dwells so much on the abilities of satan but almost none about the immense power of the Only Potentiate. Jesus want us looking up to His Kingdom and power and Victory, If He wanted us knowing so much about satan, he wld've talked more about him. But the whole Bible even seem to ignore satan in a large scale. Anyone who wants people to cast their eyes down looking at how powerful and connected satan is, is walking for satan, knowingly or unknowingly. You have not received the spirit of fear again to bondage... Do you know that this means? OkCornel:This is unnecessary. All I asked is for the establishment of the books authorship. OkCornel:I will look forward to this. And pls begin with the authentic info about the book's authorship. because Moses writing Genesis after more than 4 to 5 hundred years that his Ancestor Abraham had lived and died, and him being the one who told us about Enoch in the first place, need clarification. Who wrote the book of Enoch is my question. If you insist Enoch did. The next question wld be, When? Was it during the days of Abraham, Isaac or Jacob? Was it when the Israelites were in Egypt? Was it during their 40ys voyage in the Wilderness? When? |
OkCornel:Brotherly, you're not talking to someone who doesn't know about this Book, I have the PDF version and I have read it. The part that interests me most is the part that says, he came back to earth to write these things to let us know. And, I asked this question, 'A what point in History did he come back? OkCornel:I didn't say anyone did. I only asked a question. Isn't this what the Lord called the deep things of satan? And, I went further to ask, if it's not, then, what are the deep things of Satan Jesus warned against? OkCornel:Sir, I'm asking questions, you leave my questions and are asking yours. One thing at the time nau. When i read that book, I found very relevant info, but I have my concerns which I need clarifying. If you can. OkCornel:To begin with, this is not how a conversation shd be. I don't ask a question but instead answering me, you in turn throw some questions back at me. The book of Hebrew was written by Apostle Paul, For he was the only one who wrote any book in prison. Before we treat this, let's treat the other first. Shalom. |
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OkCornel:I have never known you to loose your cool. What happened? Pls maintain who you have always been, Calm. |
jcross19:Where did I compare Elisha to Jesus? |
budaatum:Thank you for the insult. May God bless you. |
jcross19:Boasting? Are you out of your mind? Anyways, I will overlook your ignorance. So, Prophet Elisha was an Evil man? Okay, jcross to you, Jesus will indeed be the most evil men to create Hellfire for Satan and the Sinners who work for satan, okwaya? Boy, repent of your sins, or when you die, what happened to those young men will be a child's play in comparison to what will happen to you. If you think Jesus will hesitate to judge and sentence you to die the second time in the lake of fire, think again. Jesus is the God of Love, but also the God of Justice. Jcross, stop quoting me, you reason like a kid. |
budaatum:I harangued you? Budaatum, if there's anything I've tried to do when I discuss is to focus on the Op. Use scriptures to discuss the Op, but you by all means tried to make it about the people discussing the Op. For instance, the comments you quoted. budaatum:How did I harangued you in this post? The subject under discussion here was Believe in God, (not Belief). But, you said Understanding (Knowledge)of God is better than merely believing in Him. What intended for you or anyone following us to see is that, we cannot understand or know God with out intellect (Head Knowledge). Because that puffs up as the Bible states in... 1 Corinthians 8:1-2 ...But knowledge makes us proud of ourselves, while love makes us helpful to others. In fact, people who think they know so much don't know anything at all. This, I believe explains what Paul said in... 2 Corinthians 3:6 Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life. Check, Who we are did not come up, as my focus was not your persona, but the Op. Then you replied: budaatum:Grow up and stop being so emotional. None of what I said referred to you as a person, but see how pouty you got? What kind of fruits have you conceived in your mind to have borne sef? Enough with puff ups about fruits. Jesus the Lord shd be the right person to apprise if the much talked about fruits have no grups in them. Proverbs 27:2 Don't brag about yourself— let others praise you. That said, Buda, I did not say 'Your understanding' or the way you understand things is fleshy. I said, 'Understanding/knowledge' on their own, is flesh (because it makes people proud and self conceited), even as the above scriptures made us understand. When I said 'It profits you nothing', I wasn't referring to your Person. The 'You' there, refers 'to whom it may concern' who'd rather go for head knowledge/understanding of Jesus, than believe His promises in His Words, and Trust that what He said and walk by them. But all you have tried to do is insult me or anyone who believes in Jesus. You subtly used innuendos to cast aspersions to Christians who wld rather merely believe instead of seek to understand Jesus. You deliberately ignored my attempts to bring to light that we do not merely believe in The Lord, but, follow due process as stipulated to us by the Lord. In Christianity, we believe first, then illumination is given for us to understand what we had believed, then Knowledge is birthed and when that happens, a revelation comes. It is at this point that The Lord said to Peter, "Upon this Rock, I shall be build my Church and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it". But, Budaatum, you have tried to enforce the New Age approach on Christians, it won't work, because Jesus is not Buddha. |
MuttleyLaff:Hahahahahahaha. It's the hypocrites Bible. People like jcross are to Christian to conceive that YHWH can say or do such terrible things. But, I know that YHWH is the God of Love, and at the same time the God of War. YHWH is like the sun, stay at a distance, (Obey His Commandments), you enjoy it's warmth and have your fruits' yield, but come too close, (Disobey), you'd know that the sun is pure fire, and will burn you up. |
budaatum:Did you or did you not say YHWH didn't create man to worship Him? Did you or did you not say We are not to worship God? Budaatum, the internet does not lie or forget, you can edit your comments but the ones that have been quoted, are still there. Again, keep saying it who knows, maybe I may truly become a liar some day. |
MuttleyLaff:Hahahahahahahaha. And, I didn't manage, they have always been there. |
budaatum:How can Buda go to hell when Buda is everywhere pointing Shepherd to the fruits and talking about Loving ones neighbor? Buda is the only one who does the right thing, no one else does. From the thread i opened to everywhere we've met, you claimed in no unclear terms that you are better because you seek knowledge and I as a Christian merely believe, that makes me less than you. You have insulted me directly and indirectly, have I reacted to them? I know you are at all times trying to say Christians are not what they preach. But you fail to understand that Jesus doesn't expect only Christians to be upright in Character. You throw condescending jibes at me, which if I pick them and throw back at you, we'd be brawling here, but each time I walk away. As I keep walking away, you have assumed that I am weak, or as you call me stupid. But, I understand. Actions they say, speaks louder than words. In other words, 'the content of a man's heart is reflected when upset. Yours shows clearly. We all have issues with Self, and by all means mine must be subjected. So keep throwing your jibes, i hope one day you'd meet someone who doesn't give a hoot abt throwing them right back at you. |
jcross19:Did you see Lev. 36:22? Na me write am? I guess you don't believe in the OT? |
jcross19:Jcross, can you pls dispute the scriptures I posted as not coming directly from YHWh? Na me write dem ni? Boy, will you crying upandan? |
budaatum:And Father, in the name of Jesus, Forgive Budaatum for its self-Righteousness and judgmental spirit. Free it from Pride and haughtiness. Open its eyes to know that Humility is a virtue and help it pursue it. Father, Give Budaatum your Spirit and grant it the grace to follow you as you prescribe for your followers. Help it to know that double-standardness is ungodly and no double standard individual can receive anything from you. Father, help Buda to know that quoting scriptures in hypocrisy is not what You have called your People to do, but to humbly submit ourselves to you. Altho, Buda says it does not believe in You, hence does not worship you, still have mercy on it and lead it to your Truth in your Words Which it does not believe it is. These and many more, I ask for it. Amen. |
budaatum:I labeled you? Aren't you sneaky? Your character is sneaky. Your gender is obscure and sneaky, your style of writing is sneaky. Shd me saying the truth abt you constitute labelling? Do you know you're proud? Is pride a fruit of the Holy Spirit? Do you know you are Haughty? is haughtiness a fruit of the Holy Spirit? Do you know you have a sharp serpentine tongue? Do you know that if I, for instance, follow your retorts, we'll be brawling evertime we meet in threads? Is brooding quarrels a fruit of the spirit? Do you know you are insulting and condescending? Are these traits of the Holy Spirit? Is being obscure about who you are not being deceptive? Is deception not a sin? Is calling people names not bearing falsewitness against them? Is that a fruit of the Holy Spirit? Is that loving your neighbour? Buda shd we point out our sins, since you are quick to label people but turn around and act all right like you can actually be, even when you are a Buddhist? Buda, remove the Iroko tree on your face before you can see clearly to tell me to remove mine. I have never claimed i am better than anyone, you are the righteous one bearing all the fruits of the Spirit. Righteous Buda. |
budaatum:Geraut Buda |