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Christianity EtcRe: Please I Need Trinitarians To Explain Hebrews 1:1-3 For Me by Shepherd00:
Peacefullove:
U fail to think before you type this garbage

Since animals have Body, soul, spirit , Can we say they are in the image of God ?
Pls can you show where God says animals have body, soul and spirits?
Christianity EtcRe: Please I Need Trinitarians To Explain Hebrews 1:1-3 For Me by Shepherd00: 8:11pm On Aug 14, 2019
Peacefullove:
If God was manifest in flesh , Does that not mean Mary is the Mother of God ?
Before I answer this your question, pls explain what you understand by that scripture.

What does it mean?
Christianity EtcRe: Sincere Fact You Need To Know About Shi'tes Sect(shi'a) by Shepherd00: 2:14pm On Aug 14, 2019
AbuAeesha:
I wish you guidance, got no more to say
Guidance to what?
Christianity EtcRe: Please I Need Trinitarians To Explain Hebrews 1:1-3 For Me by Shepherd00: 7:25pm On Aug 13, 2019
TV01:
Au contraire - that is exactly what He needs to be! Can a being less than God, lay hold of God? Whilst being a man makes Him perfectly equipped to understand our passions and intercede on our behalf.

Job 9:33 - Nor is there any mediator between us, Who may lay his hand on us both.

The infinite God presenting in different forms may well be hard to grasp, but it shouldn't be a problem and, we shouldn't even seek to limit Him to what has been revealed. He is not like us, unconstrained by notions of time or dimensionality. He did what we could not do, not limited by form or ego.


TV
I'm reading this book 'True Christianity', where Trinity is so simplified.
Christianity EtcRe: Please I Need Trinitarians To Explain Hebrews 1:1-3 For Me by Shepherd00: 7:23pm On Aug 13, 2019
OnPointMan:
Jesus is the mediator between man and God. So, he can't at the same time be God. Shikena!
I would you in a layman language explain what this verse is staying.

1 Timothy 3:16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.
Christianity EtcRe: Sincere Fact You Need To Know About Shi'tes Sect(shi'a) by Shepherd00: 6:44pm On Aug 13, 2019
AbuAeesha:
THE SECRET OF SHIITES SECT

Compiled By:
SHARIFUDEEN IBRAHIM MUHAMMAD

Whether the Nigerian military was right or wrong in forcefully repelling the Shia in the recent crisis was not a major concern to most Muslims. They see the defeat of Shi'a as a victory for them because of the rage they harbour for the Shi'a.
Dr. Abdussamad Umar Jibia, (Associate Professor and Head
of Mechatronics Engineering Department, Bayero University) had recently said among others in his letter to President Buhari
"...As a Muslim, you don’t need someone to tell you about Shia. But for the benefit of those who do not know, I would say the little they need to know. Shia is about the oldest sect in Islam. After the death of Muhammad (peace be upon him) who was both a messenger of Allah and a political leader, the Islamic faith continued to grow under the rightly guided Caliphs. It was during this period that the present day Syria, Iran, Iraq, Egypt and Palestine came under the control of Islam.
However, the Jews who were expelled from the city of Madina by the Holy prophet because of their treachery and were watching these developments with agony decided to react by sponsoring some of them to pronounce Islam in order to have the license to cause confusion among Muslims. It was these ‘converts’ under the leadership of one Abdullah bn Saba that succeeded in sponsoring the rebellion against the third Caliph, Othman. They first articulated his shortcomings, amplified and disseminated them around the Caliphate. Thereafter they called for his resignation; when he refused to resign they killed him. The Muslim Ummah chose Ali, a cousin of the Holy Prophet to lead them after Othman, but these very people, who now called themselves Shiat Ali (the sect of Ali) frustrated his efforts to track and punish the killers of Othman. They now made Shia a symbol of love for Ali and other relations of the prophet and hatred for the other caliphs and the rest of the prophet’s companions whom they claimed betrayed the trust of the prophet.
Shia was embraced by Persians because they saw it as an opportunity to distort a religion that destroyed their kingdom and culture. After the Iranian revolution which was led by Shiite scholars, the government of Iran set an agenda to spread Shia to other countries. In Nigeria, this task was to be carried out by one Ibrahim Yakub Elzakzaky. The man Elzakzaky devised several strategies to achieve his mission. First, he banked on the gullibility of some Muslim youth who could easily be misled by slogans like ‘Islamic revolution’, ‘establishment of Islamic state’, ‘total change’, etc. His group, who initially tagged themselves as Muslim brothers (meaning, of course, that other Muslims are not their brothers) organized lectures and several demonstrations in their first phase. In those days in the 1980s he told everyone that he was not a Shiite, his group was not out to promote Shia and that what they wanted was Islam and nothing else. The other methods used by Elzakzaky to introduce Shia to his followers were the same methods that Shiites have used over their long history. One of them is women. Shiites legalize temporary marriage. In Shia it is possible to marry a woman for two hours. Many people find it difficult to understand why young men and women who are supposed to be in school would trek from cities like Kano, Gusau and Katsina to Zaria, spending nights along the way in order to listen to Elzakzaky. This is the secret. It is an open one because the Shiites do not deny they do it. What they may deny is wife swapping, which many people accuse them of doing.
There is plenty more on Shiites and their doctrine..."
If you study the Qur'an adequately you will certainly see that Islam and Shia are a word and its opposite.
They cannot be Muslim those who harm the Prophet Muhammad by slandering his wives and calumniating his closest friends and companions. Their goal is to make us doubt Islam which got to us through the companions of the Prophet (Q48:29, Q9:100&117).
They cannot be Muslim those who sow doctrinal differences among the Muslims in order to set them against each other
(Q9:107).
They cannot be Muslim those whose fundamental belief is that the Qur'an has been corrupted despite that Allah says corruption can never make way to it (Q41:41-42, Q15:9).
They cannot be Muslim those who are hostile to our direction in Salat and the cradle of Islam (Makkah, then Madina- Arabia). (Q22:25)
They cannot be Muslim those whose faith is based on Hate, Lie and Curse while Islam preaches Love, Honesty and Forgiveness (Q3:133-6).
They cannot be Muslim those who brazenly call to polytheism while the foundation of Islam is Monotheism (Tawheed- Laa ilaaha illallah).
They cannot be Muslim those who believe that all non- Shiite Muslims (Including Abubakr and Umar) are worse than the Jews and Christians (Q4:49-52).
They cannot be Muslim those whose beliefs and acts of worship are completely different from that of the Prophet Muhammad (Q42:21,Q24:47).
They cannot be Muslim those who are openly and secretly destroying Muslim governments and society (Q2:11-16).
Closely Study the traditions of the Prophet Muhammad on Dajjal you'll realise that most of his followers will be the Shia and the Jews. After all, the Prophet said Dajjal will appear from Isfahan which is a city in Iran (Persian)! Here you understand why it is Iran which is most pained by what happened to the Nigerian Shiites recently.
A struggle with hand, tongue, wealth or self to destroy the religion known as Shia is a real contemporary Jihad.
The Islamic Movement of Nigeria headed by El-Zakzaky is a misnomer; it doesn't represent Islam or Muslims in any way.
Every true Muslim must rise to defend the prophetic Islam and preserve our heritage. We should seriously learn the Qur'an and the Sunnah(Q9:73-74).
May Allah protect us!!?

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Just imagine the hate and bitterness in the tune of the writer against the Shia'ts, Jews and Christians, yet he is talking about Love and Forgiveness.

He is calling blood thirsty demon possessed muslims to rise up and defend islam in what way if not to kill people?

After here, he'll join his master moharmad in hellfire.
Christianity EtcRe: Sincere Fact You Need To Know About Shi'tes Sect(shi'a) by Shepherd00: 6:39pm On Aug 13, 2019
AbuAeesha:
I hope u read the article completely,Qur'an isn't the only source of Islamic teaching we Hadith (sayings of the Noble Prophet Muhammad), Sunnah (Prophet's acts and approval),and these other sources further explains the Qur'an. thanks
Pls answer him. Which koran do they use since Hadith and Suna are not koran?

I know so well that they use the koran too.
Christianity EtcRe: "The Priest Offered Me 30 Dollars To Suck His D*ck"---undercover Female Cop by Shepherd00: 6:29pm On Aug 13, 2019
Wow. This boy, who do you this thing? Who lay this kind curse on you?
Christianity EtcRe: My Visions Of Celestial Beings, Heaven And The End Time Revival. by Shepherd00: 6:13pm On Aug 13, 2019
EnthronedbyGod:
I agree with you but not totally, you should understand that the Bible is silent on the issue of sex positions and this particular verse has several translations depending on the version,so what I did was to use the KJV to explain to the guy.
That doesn't mean the KJV was the perfect translation.
Hope you understand my point.
Yeah.

The reason I went back to read Job 31:9-10 again is, I was curious to read abt sex positions associating with it, but it turned out to be nothing close to it.
Christianity EtcRe: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by Shepherd00: 6:10pm On Aug 13, 2019
EnthronedbyGod:
Yes, very difficult to grasp but it's the bitter truth.
Spiritual things sometimes don't have physical proofs.

Just like people dream and forget their dreams totally when they wake up, cos their are demons assigned for this particular type of manipulation.

The devil is a desperado and he goes to any length to achieve his purpose.
Okay. But. how then would these people be judged and condemned for their acts?
Christianity EtcRe: My Confession by Shepherd00: 2:16pm On Aug 13, 2019
johnydon22:
You are secretary general for this Lord God I assume? Yoi keep tab on these supoosed transgressions to its name.
What says the Word?
Christianity EtcRe: My Confession by Shepherd00:
johnydon22:
Jesus bro! You didn't have to quote the whole thing to make this point which is also rather inconsequential to the post.
Thou shall not take the name of the Lord God in vain, for He shall not hold guiltless any one who takes His name vain.


I had to quote all of you to let you know that your selfconceitedness in that post is noted.
Christianity EtcRe: My Visions Of Celestial Beings, Heaven And The End Time Revival. by Shepherd00: 1:06pm On Aug 13, 2019
EnthronedbyGod:
Are you for real or just joking?.

I can't say if it's ungodly or not, for their is no specific way to make love to one's partner, as long one doesn't engage in perversion of any kind( e.g anal sex.e.t.c).

The Bible didn't also specifically talk about this, except in the book of Job 31:10( Let my wife grind unto another, and let others bow upon her- KJV). it could mean the woman being untop the man, or the man being untop the woman, though many have interpreted this statement to mean different things.

Almost all animals with 4 legs, have use posture when copulating, so there is really nothing like "doggy style" . It's we human beings that gave it such name.

I'm not approving or disapproving the style , cos I don't talk about things I'm not so sure about.
Let the Holy Spirit be your guide.
Altho I'm an Evangelical, but I have learned never to read only the KJV translation.

Here are other translations for better understanding

C.E.VJob 31:9-12 If I have desired someone's wife and chased after her, then let some stranger steal my wife from me.
If I took someone's wife, it would be a horrible crime, sending me to destruction and my crops to the flames.



MSG 9-12"If I've let myself be seduced by a woman

and conspired to go to bed with her,

Fine, my wife has every right to go ahead

and sleep with anyone she wants to.

For disgusting behavior like that,


31:9 "If my heart has been enticed by a woman, or if I have lurked at my neighbor's door,31:10then may my wife grind another man's grain, and may other men sleep with her.

It's obvious that Job 31:9-10 is talking about adultery, not sex positions, or who shd be on top of the other.
Christianity EtcRe: My Confession by Shepherd00: 12:46pm On Aug 13, 2019
johnydon22:
I wrote this true story that happened to me on my Facebook wall yesterday.




"Forgive me father for I have sinned" I said in a profound contrite tone displaying the deep seated regret that ran through my soul.

"Speak my son" The whispering clear voice of the priest sipped through the numerous holes that separated us both in the confessioner "What sins have you committed?"

My hands were clasped together beneath my chest tightly in an undying piety for Christ, my eyes misty from the regrets that tore through my conscience.

What have I done?
Why did I do it?
Did the Catechism not warn me early enough?
Now, I have fallen short of the glory of God.
I have sinned and the mercy of God must be attained or my destination is sealed.

I can still vividly remember my sin. It played out freshly in my memory. Kneeling right there before the Priest of Christ, the sacrament of penance, atoning for my abhorrent action.

It was just 4 days ago we got back from the village. The new school year was about to start, so I had to wrap up my village vacation stay with my grand mother.

I always relished the idea of spending my vacations in the village, spending time with my grand mothers, both of which lived in the village but more especially because Papa was not around to put a check on my behavior. I was free to roam around every day, jumping from one tree to another, howling wildly in the bush chasing after bush rats, grasscutters and snakes.

The untamed happiness of a child free from the prying correcting eyes of his Father.

My friends and relatives in the village, boys my age would come to find me as early as 8am, we were off, I just had breakfast, enough energy to get me through the morning, wild fruits and nuts from the bushes we ran around in will do for lunch and then we are off to the forest to burn calories chasing after little Bush meats that ran as if they had something to win - they did have something to win; their lives.

Grandma surely always had dinner waiting.

As Papa came down to the village that weekend to pick me up back to the city, I was being beaten by my conscience, every look from Papa felt as if he could read me as a book, I felt vulnerable, as if he could see right through my eyes every picture of the sin I've committed just a day before.

Papa would disagree strongly. He would be angry.

"You are a Christian boy" He'd say "Your father is strong in the catholic faith. I won't have any of my children dragged to the scotching fires of hell"

Wait, till he finds out what I had just done. It would be as if the fires of hell lurked around somewhere beneath me, God surely will remove my name from the book of life for this one.

I was silent throughout the journey back to the city.

"Don't worry son, I will bring you back after this term is over" Papa said with a tone of concern over my mood. He had imagined I was unhappy to end my holiday.

Oh how wrong he was.

It was the day before Saturday, Friday. I woke to an air of festivity around Agbaeze compound. The fires and aroma of food coming from the kitchens of Mama Nnenna and Mma Oyina were too good to be just an ordinary breakfast which most times were steaming soups warmed from yesterday's leftovers going down with hard cold akpu that scratched your throat as they slid down.

It seemed there was an occasion everyone was preparing for. It is not Christmas, neither is it Easter, so, naturally I was confused on what the occasion was.

Ebuka came down towards my Grandmother's hut, he was munching over a large chunk of chicken lap, this early morning, steam rose from the meat, peppered juices smeared all over his face.

"What is happening?" I asked trying to say that in our local dialect.

"Oduigbo is coming home today!" He happily announced taking a deep bite into the meat.

Oduigbo is a masquerade, managed and fixed by our umunna, our hamlet in Amaowerre Edem of Umulumgbe.

In our town of Umulumgbe much like most part of Igbo land, masquerades had a spiritual significance. There were more than masked men chasing and scaring boys and women as the playful ones are. They were seen as revered spirits of the ancestors, wise and just, ancient warriors with brave deeds to their names; So, their coming were expected, celebrated and comes with a hope of blessings and messages from the land of the ancestors to the adherents of Odinani Igbo.

That was the occasion today.

In our family, my grand father was the first Christian hence his wife and son (Papa) are Christians.

But not everyone in Agbaeze family are Christians, Nnam Ode wasn't - a wise man, physical specimen of the unnatural height that ran in the Agbaeze blood, a good man in every way.

His wives Mama m Oyina and Mama Nnenna the youngest are preparing the meals for today's festivities.

I could see the egusi soup as Mama m Oyina turned it in the pot, there was hardly any water in it, large chunks of meat poking out here and there, I couldn't help but swallow my spit. Other delicacies were also going to be available; Okpa freshly made with new palm oil, roasted yam to go with Ugba, Abacha and Akidi, Agbugbu and achicha and a goat will be killed and devoured right there in the presence of the newly arrived ancestral spirit.

Ebuka had explained, after the cookings are done, the men will go to the Oduigbo shrine with beer, palm wine and canons to signal the arrival of the much awaited spirit, the women will carry all the delicacies prepared to the shrine where everyone will participate in the rituals, eat all the food, drink the wine and take home the blessings from the land of the ancestors.

The women were gathered, clad in uniformed wrappers, their legs adorned in uhie (Red dyes) down to the sole of the feet.

The men headed for the shrine, there was no way I could miss everything I have just seen and heard, I tagged along, asking more questions as we went.

Grandma didn't know where I went to, if she had, she would have threatened to tell Papa.

A little after 5pm, the masqurade arrived, well decorated with new clothe prints, newly painted masks, its large white horns shooting up stupendously, he was a beautiful spirit.

The kolanuts were split and shared, the prayers were said, the rhyming incantations and messages from the masquerade rang out into the air, it bore messages of glad tiding, I thought the tenor voice that sang underneath the clothing decorations were amazing, amplifying echo from the chambered hollow mask.

After the bit, it was time to eat and drink, every food brought to the shrine must be consumed, no one was allowed to deny the other what they wanted to eat. Men chatting and laughing, beer and palmwine trickling down their chins and they greedily washed them down finishing with a roar.

I hesitated. Participating in the consumption of food sacrificed or dedicated to a pagan deity? Oh, that is the end of it.

How many times have Papa warned me about avoiding anything pagan?
How many times did I hear that from the catechism teachers?
The bible? God literally punished the Israelites for such sin.

People enquired why i was not eating, I tried to smile it off, working hard to resist the urge to unwind, join everyone else in their happiness and festivities.

Needles to say, I caved in, dove deep to help myself, the Okpa was out of the world, hardly any dip into the soup came without a chunk of meat in my hand, the akpu, freshly made, soft and oozed in all glory.

This was the first day I drank a beer, no soft drink was anywhere in sight, no one stopped me, Nnam Ode looked at me with an eye of admiration - This was what manhood was about.

For a while, I forgot, I was deep in the joy of it all, flanked left, right and center by my kin's men, eating from wooden plates, occasional solo rhymes coming from the now seated masquerade.

It was peaceful and happy.

But the morning after, all my joy and happiness was replaced with guilt and regret, I had committed a grievous sin before God, i had tainted the temple of the holy spirit with unholy food and drinks in an unholy gathering.

That was the story I feared Papa could see beneath my misty eyes.

Now? I can still remember the inside of the church, my penance of 25 decades of the rosary proscribed by the priest with a stern warning not to commit this sin again, a reminder that the holy spirit do not dwell in unholy bodies.

I can picture myself going to this confession again, I would do and say things differently.

"I am not here to ask for forgiveness Father, I have done nothing. I ate a food dedicated to the Gods of my fathers, the Gods and spirits of my ancestors and I shared moments of joy and peace with my kinsmen, a fellowship much needed in a world marred by hate. I do not regret this Father, I am happy I did, I will do it again. The bible always talked about Gods of the Israeli's forefathers, of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, why should I be ashamed of the Gods of my own Fathers? The Gods of Uradogwu, the Gods of Ekweka and Agbaeze? I do not ask for pardon Father, I have not sinned, I only ate from the same plate my ancestors ate from and I am proud of it"

That is how I wished that confession had gone. Now I wish my joy weren't tainted by regret and remorse over a sin that isn't a sin.

I am an African man, an Igbo man, Odinani is part of my identity, I do not have to be a man of belief to appreciate this part of who I am.



John Chukwuemeka Ekwekaanyinya Agbaeze
This isn't fiction. It really happened to me.
Your thoughts, both in print or in your mind shall be clearly visible to you when you die. You shall defend them before your Maker. Whether you believe it or not, it won't matter there.

Don't worry Jonnydon, your self conceitedness is well noted.
Christianity EtcRe: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by Shepherd00: 12:37pm On Aug 13, 2019
EnthronedbyGod:
Not really
Ha. So one can be a blood sucking witch, flying at nights to attend meetings in covens, where names and specific assignments are given to them, yet won't know that they are witches?
This sounds hard to grasp.
Christianity EtcRe: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by Shepherd00: 10:09pm On Aug 12, 2019
MuttleyLaff:
1. Faith under Fire by Lee Strobel.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gyEkHJ0jKNY&list=PL_IZBabl5Ol2nUIhFALtQ661s6oOsGazE&index=12&t=0s

2. The case for Christianity by Lee Strobel.
http://www.divinerevelations.info/pdf/the_case_for_christ.pdf

Bonus
3. The Questions Christians Hope No One Will Ask (with answers) by Mark Mittelberg.
https://files.tyndale.com/thpdata/FirstChapters/978-1-4143-1591-1.pdf

@CaveAdullam, please let me know how you got on with watching "Popular Videos – Lee Strobel & Faith Under Fire" and downloading the other two, OK?
Shepherd00 is correct there is no pdf versions easily or straightforwardly available yet, besides this was done as a discussion project, so you're better off watching it, as a video, as opposed to reading
I saw this, but I thought he wanted the print version.
Christianity EtcRe: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by Shepherd00:
EnthronedbyGod:
ignore that guy, he isn't born again
Oh, I know him. He is present in every Esoteric thread defending satan yet he's an atheist. lolzzzzz
Christianity EtcRe: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by Shepherd00: 9:37pm On Aug 12, 2019
EnthronedbyGod:
Yes, just like many Christians ignorantly work for the devil without knowing. Peter was an example when he rebuked Jesus, after Jesus said He was going to die on the cross.

Some have even done so on this thread not knowing they had entertained thoughts from the devil.

There are so many ignorant witches, working on the streets but don't even know they are witches.
Hmmmmmm. Charismatic witches you mean?
Christianity EtcRe: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by Shepherd00: 7:22pm On Aug 11, 2019
CaveAdullam:
Classic specie of a human being @muttleylaff please I want you to help me with the PDF files below should in case you have it in your shelf. This is the present location I can find you and please don't find it offensive, biko nwanne. Lol

Shepherd00 nwanne, leave argument for now and join me in this search. Lol

1. Faith under fire by Lee Strobel.
2. The case for Christianity by Lee strobel.

Other related PDF files or direct download link are also welcomed.

@OP I don't mean to derail this thread, keep up with your good works.

Thanks.

God bless.
I doubt if they have PDF versions yet. I checked, it's not there.
Christianity EtcRe: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by Shepherd00: 4:35pm On Aug 11, 2019
MiddleDimension:
those who have recieved Jesus as their lord and saviour by way of tye baptism of John the Baptist and most importantly, have the evidence of the fruit of the spirit in them, which are kindness, long suffering etc.

there are also those who have been accepted by god, even though they have never proclaimed unto salvation with their mouth, as can be seen in fruit of the holy ghost deeply rooted in them. these people are also BORN AGAINS. IN FACT, THEY ARE THE TRUE BORN AGAINS! EVERY OTHER PERSON MUST POSSESS THE FRUIT OF THE SPIRIT, AS A TRUE MARK OF THE PRESENCE OF GOD IN HIM OTHERWISE, HE IS NOT BORN AGAIN IN ANY FORM OR MEASURE; IT DOESN'T MATTER HIW MANY TIMES THEY HAVE MADE CONFESSIONS UNTO SALVATION WITH THEIR MOUTH.
You have given two categories of Born Again Christians. lol. Are these according to scriptures or your opinion?
Christianity EtcRe: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by Shepherd00: 4:30pm On Aug 11, 2019
MiddleDimension:
those who have recieved Jesus as their lord and saviour by way of tye baptism of John the Baptist and most importantly, have the evidence of the fruit of the spirit in them, which are kindness, long suffering etc.
So, in your opinion someone can receive Jesus Christ into their life as the only Lord and Master and still be a member of an Occult group like the Rosicrucian Order? isn't that serving two masters?

MiddleDimension:
there are also those who have been accepted by god, even though they have never proclaimed unto salvation with their mouth, as can be seen in fruit of the holy ghost deeply rooted in them.
Pls what is the Fruit of the Holy Ghost that can be seen in a man who hasn't confessed Jesus as Lord?

because the Bible says in Rom: 10:9-10. With your mouth you confess that 'Jesus is Lord, and with your heart you believe what you confess, then you will be saved. This is the only way YHWH will accept you into His beloved.

So please I need to see scriptures that states that there's a group of Christians who got to God by themselves and not confessing and accepting Jesus.

MiddleDimension:
these people are also BORN AGAINS. IN FACT, THEY ARE THE TRUE BORN AGAINS! EVERY OTHER PERSON MUST POSSESS THE FRUIT OF THE SPIRIT
[quote author=MiddleDimension post=81155733]What is the Fruit of this 'True Born Again?

Okay, this class of 'True Born Agains' are the ones who also join Ogboni and AMORC abi? Isorite.

[quote author=MiddleDimension post=81155733], AS A TRUE MARK OF THE PRESENCE OF GOD IN HIM OTHERWISE, HE IS NOT BORN AGAIN IN ANY FORM OR MEASURE; IT DOESN'T MATTER HIW MANY TIMES THEY HAVE MADE CONFESSIONS UNTO SALVATION WITH THEIR MOUTH.
Do you know who the Holy Spirit is?

What is the Mark of the Holy Spirit.

Finally, can you give 5 names of born again Christians you know who are members of AMORC? Remember you said there's nothing wrong and hidden about AMORC, so their membership shouldn't be hidden.
Christianity EtcRe: Hi Nairalanders, I'm Back by Shepherd00: 4:07pm On Aug 11, 2019
You're back from where we sent you? lol
Christianity EtcRe: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by Shepherd00: 3:55pm On Aug 11, 2019
michaelkaroh:
OK o......but I think you should check the meaning of wine.
Wine is wine, until it becomes fermented.
Christianity EtcRe: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by Shepherd00: 3:46pm On Aug 11, 2019
EnthronedbyGod:
I once went to see a young lady in her aunt's shop.

She was somehow close to me then, but I had to run for my dear life.

I decided to take a stroll with her, we walked and got to a curved place that was covered with kerosine tank.


As we got there, she removed her skirt instantly, she had no underwear on, and started urinating right in my presence claiming she was pressed.


The funny thing is that she faced me while urinating
What the hell? She was obviously being used without knowing it.
Christianity EtcRe: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by Shepherd00: 3:33pm On Aug 11, 2019
michaelkaroh:
"Big boys" write intelligently. Making long posts about a subject don't equate being learned on such.
Fruit of the vine is grape. Grape is used to make wine. All wines are alcoholic. It's that simple man.
Not all wines are alcoholic, only fermented grapes or Vines are alcoholic.

Not only Vine. If you ferment Palm juice you'd ve alcohol. if you ferment Corn, Rice, Millet, you'd have alcohol come out of them.

Fermentation turns them to alcohol, not that they are automatically alcohol.
Christianity EtcRe: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by Shepherd00: 3:21pm On Aug 11, 2019
MiddleDimension:
my dear there are born agains in yhe rosicrucian order, don't fool yourself! there is no such thing about the rosicrucian order being of the devil, just shut up already!

the rosicrucian order is one of the most noble organizations in the whole world, get it!
Define Born Again Christian
Christianity EtcRe: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by Shepherd00: 12:25pm On Aug 11, 2019
jayextra:
grin grin grin

If there was a single intelligent thought in your head it would have died from loneliness.
Hahahahahahaha. Your comments makes me laugh so hard.
Christianity EtcRe: Mystical Christianity - An Loj Perspective by Shepherd00: 1:20pm On Aug 04, 2019
MiddleDimension:
bible says he is a SECRET disciple of jesus.
And he was. Why was he a secret disciple?
Christianity EtcRe: Mystical Christianity - An Loj Perspective by Shepherd00: 1:18pm On Aug 04, 2019
MiddleDimension:
because jesus comanded them not to tell anyone, including their fellow disciples, the eight if them,....UNTIL THE SON OF MAN HAD RISEN FROM THE DEAD.

there is a timeline
So that makes Jesus what? If you know anything at all the Lord Jesus, He he puts the spirit of pride where it belongs. Everything He did He told people not to tell about it why?

because he was no men pleaser and was not interested in the praises of men.
Christianity EtcRe: Mystical Christianity - An Loj Perspective by Shepherd00: 1:16pm On Aug 04, 2019
MiddleDimension:
i am not a satanist. such thinga do not exist in my world
Keep telling yourself that, maybe with time you'd come to believe that you re not a satanist.

By the way, how come you know what transpired on the mount of Transfiguration?
Christianity EtcRe: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by Shepherd00: 10:08pm On Aug 03, 2019
EnthronedbyGod:
Not at all, it doesn't require wisdom, but God's presence.
God told Moses, my presence shall go with you and I'll give you peace.
The Bible says the heart of the king is in God's hands, as the rivers of waters, He turns it whithersoever He wills, that's why I said prayerfully contact, meaning you must get a go ahead from God.

I did such and nothing happened to me, most of them didn't even collect back the items, they were even happy I contacted them because God had gone before me to soften their hearts.
Okay then.
Christianity EtcRe: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by Shepherd00: 12:20pm On Aug 03, 2019
EnthronedbyGod:
Prayerfully contact the victims and restitute the money once he has it.

it's cursed money and can't be given to the poor.

If he doesn't have it and believes he won't be able to get it, he should still prayerfully contact the victims and ask for forgiveness.
Hmmm. This will require a very high level of wisdom, if not, his life may go for it.

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