Bubu4Sea: Jesus said He is the Son of God, that's why He lives & ur mohammed is dead😁
And even after Muhammad's death, the name is giving you guys sleepless nights. No wonder.
What we have argued so far, i can confidently conclude that: ✓ Jesus never claimed divinity but the church- goers claimed it for him ✓ The Bible do contradict itself, saying something here and saying otherwise there, hence the need for major editions ( A supposed holy book) ✓ Jesus calling himself son of God isn't something new. So many prophet and were also been called with that name. ✓ If christians can't defend themselves, they immediately turn to preaching mode or start to trolls ( as it can be seen from your post).
Bubu4Sea: Jesus said He is the Son of God, which means He too is God.
Joh 5:17-18 KJV 17 But Jesus answered them, My Father worketh hitherto, and I work.
18 Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill him, because he not only had broken the sabbath, but said also that God was his Father, making himself equal with God.
I made quotes of Jesus claiming himself not being God.
It would be more appropriate if you also make quotes of Jesus to support your claims.
Up there, some parts of the Bible claim Jesus to be God in which there's not a single quote or acts of of Jesus himself saying or supporting that.
Nevertheless, I bring to you a counter-evidence that say Jesus is a Man/servant of God
'Men Of Israel, Listen To This: Jesus Of Nazareth Was A Man Accredited By God To You By Miracles, Wonders And Signs, Which God Did Among You Through Him, As You Yourselves Know." (ACTS 2:22)
Jesus Was A Servant Of God (MATTHEW 12:18)
"The God Of Abraham, Isaac And Jacob, The God Of Our Fathers, Has Glorified His Servant Jesus. (ACTS 3:13)
'God Raised Up His Servant' (ACTS 3:26)
"Your Holy Servant Jesus, Whom You Anointed. (ACTS 4:27)
'Of Your Holy Servant Jesus, Cacts 4:30)
"Behold, My Servant, Whom I Have Chosen, In Whom My Soul Is Well Pleased. (MATT 12:18)
Bubu4Sea: Isa 9:6 KJV For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor,The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.
Ok let's look at the below, from Jesus himself:
"You (Father) The Only True GOD". JOHN 17:3
"The head of Christ is GOD". CORINTHIANS 11:13
"i'm going to my GOD". JOHN 20:17
"My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?". MATTHEW 27:46
"Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD". MARK 12:29
"Why do you call Me good? no one is Good except GOD Alone". MARK 10:18
Or is Christianity not for shallow minded people like us?
Why don't we just follow what Jesus say rather than what you decide to attribute to him? It was this kind of habit that led to editions of the Bible: not just edition but major editions of the Bible
udomonday: I bet the sharia police are among the ones guzzling away.after that they will go and disturb people that are selling beer.what could be more hypocritical?
IAMBOSS1990: Abeg one day is not enough to celebrate the esteemed fallen heroes of Biafra, I urge able leader Mazi NNAMDI Kanu and the leadership of IPOB worldwide to make the celebrations SIX MONTHS no movement, no banking, no business, that's the only way to get government attention.
Real men don't do this. A real man, even if he's not in good terms with his wife, will acts normally to his wife in the presence of the children, talkmore of hurting his own children just to prove a point
That's why some children chest beat that they never witness case of dispute between their parents.
But you see, if you were born in India or China, or major Asian countries, you may never get to hear about Jesus until you are in high school, read books, or surf the internet. And that means you may never be a Christian. Before you attack me, I hope you know the Asians live the longest?
Nigerian Christians love to side against whoever the Isrealis are warring against. Why? They see them as the same biblical Isrealites. But do you know that the Isrealis do not believe in Jesus? I mean, they do not believe the foretold Jesus was the one Christians believe who came. When you pray and end your prayer with the regular "in Jesus name" near an Israeli person, they laugh at you and ridicule you. They tell you why you'd pray to a son of a carpenter and not to God direct.
And also, no matter how righteous or faithful you are, you cannot really explain how Jesus was born. You'd only explain what you were told or read because you don't have a voice of your own. That God transferred the life of his son in heaven to a virgin's womb and it became Jesus and ....and what? To be born to come die for our sins? Why did he need to die when Satan could have been killed? What is sin actually or how did it start? No bi God still put the fruit for garden wey result to sin? Even after that, he was recorded discussing with Satan to test Job who did absolutely nothing!
Even after Jesus died, sin continued and we still die after all.
Why!
Since the prophecy said he'd die, why was Judas and Peter scapegoats?
Doesn't make sense.
Respect to those who wants to do the right thing and use Christianity as backbone tho
@ the bold, the explanation of the birth of Jesus isn't a rocket. Islam's Qur'an help you with it. Creating the first humans (Adam and Eve) is even more harder (of course it's not harder to The Creator) compare to Jesus. At least Jesus has mother. The Former have not.
That is what will happen should we think some are above us
O mankind! We have created you from a male and a female, and made you into nations and tribes, that you may know one another. Verily, the most honourable of you with your Lord is that who is God fearing.... Qur'an 49:13
Ngozi123: So, you confirm that what is written in the book of John is in fact the word of Jesus?
Sure! As a non Christian I must believe that Bible is Holy book of the Christianity in which their jurisprudence is based and i can therefore use it as an evidence.
I know Bible isn't a verbatim words of Jesus. After some decades of story telling, writing took place ( With just this, how are we even sure, narrations remains the same along the way )... No wonder, we have been having different revised versions of the Bibles all over
thorpido: Christianity says that God is one.In John 17:3,Jesus said...this is life eternal,that they may know you,the only true God and Jesus Christ whom thou has sent.
Notice that he said...that they may know you ,because the one they know is NOT You.
Again Jesus said,everyone who has learnt of the Father comes to me.John 6:45.
See anyone can claim to be God,but there is the One who sent Jesus and everyone who has known Him,believes the Gospel!
Interesting.
How do we go about these Jesus quotes? Or there is teaching of the Bible separately and another teaching of the church?
'My God, My God, why have You forsaken me?' (Matt. 27:46)
'I ascend to my Father and your Father, and my God and your God.' (John 20:17)
'the temple of my God the name of my God the city of my God comes down out of heaven from my God.' (Rev. 3:12)
Donwizbro: Why is nairaland full of fights and insult nowadays? One can't read through a thread in peace unlike before without seeing insults or fights. We know we're all suffering but at least some of the dragging and insults is not necessary please.
Could you remember when Nairaland went down some months back? During that time,We have tested how sweet and calming life is without bigotries/insults.
And the funny thing is that the server was taken down as a result of such thing ne oo 😔