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NdokwaNeKu:
That's why una decided to bury him in the poultry farm where chickens are reared🤣🤣🤣

Go to America and other developed countries and see where their former leader are buried, nigeria is a typical zoo filled with illiterates - except for Igbo tribe who have been known to be exceptionally brilliant.

No wonder. You're are being called chest beater.

Ojukwu, Nnamdi Azikwe and co were all brought to life after been buried expensively.

NdokwaNeKu:
Let's not talk much sha, see where a former president was buried, such a pity.

Even a dog that's is well loved by his owner won't be buried in such a grave.🤣🤣🤣

Such a pity?

Of what benefits will the one billion dollar casket and burial is to the deceased?

RighteousDemon:
My heart only skips when someone is declared missing in Ogun state. The probability of finding such persons with the head intact is 1%.

Guy why can't you just say its impossible

GrammarNazi1:
Pork.

Dog meat.

Monkey meat.

Cat meat.

GrammarNazi you don tey we no see you oo
We welcome your service here as usual.

Thelife:
Oponu, it still standing while you are still crying all over the world for help 😂

Smile, please what did Muslim did in Afghanistan? Why don't you take over the Afghanistan when US soldiers are still there? You people are so coward that you only attack your fellow kinsman after US left, shameless chest beater

The most sophisticated militaries in the world can't fish out just handful of Hamas for the past 8 months?

Thelife:
Smile what did early Muslims sees please?

Your gigolo fake prophet wasn't scared of death yet he ran from Mecca to Medina 😂 he should have waited now.

Or why did your early Muslims seek refugees in Christian nations when they are been persecuted instead of staying since they are not afraid of death, smile they are not afraid of death yet they are crying and begging international community to beg and restrain Israel. You people are so dummb seriously.

You mean Gaza strip Vs Israel, the US, the Europe. Just a strip? Versus the world powers and the strip is still standing?

Muslims did it Afghanistan. It will do it again in Palestine. Bombardments, invasions, striking give us strength.

Thelife:
Smile pained as how?

This is not the first time your useless gigolo fake prophet mumuhammad will be insulted in south here, I don't see you coming to kill us, stupid fellow, why don't your allah attacked the pastor back and see the real deal or you think here is your desert north. Trust me you people are not even preparing for have of what's to come, ask your fellow head slammers in Central Africa region (CAR) they will tell you that the calmness of a Christian doesn't mean coward.

I said that before: do it in your dominated area or online. And this is a pure case of fear.

Thelife:
Did you know how stupid all the trash you wrote up there sound?

Can you please define blasphemy for us?

Smile, just pray the day never come sha, because I promise you what your brother is facing in Gaza will be a child play compare to what will befall you hopeless terrorist.

Early Muslims see worst than what Gaza sees now. You don't threaten Muslims with death.

Thelife:
You are stupid, that's why Israel will continue to kill you troll, shameless animal.

Your useless hisslam have already make mockery of itself together with your gigolo fake prophet.

Are you pained like this?
Muslims are always ready for the worst to happen. Bring it on. Blaspheme in public and see for yourself.

Fujiyama:
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The problem is that your 'analogy' isn't an analogy at all.

You simply provided a justification for the killing of that woman and said she got what she deserved. If that wasn't what you meant or intended to convey then it is best you immediately modify your comment.



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No.

That isn't how it works.

A woman is gone forever. Her life was taken away violently by a mob. There was no due process of any sort involved in the taking away of the life of Deborah Samuels. You cannot excuse the murder of this woman because 'at least there was an allegation'.

Is that the standard now - a mere allegation?



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We seem to be getting somewhere.

Your first few lines show the proper procedure: After an investigation, if it is indeed found that Miss Samuels made offensive remarks, she should be called upon to retract her comments and apologize for them. If she complies, problem solved. If she doesn't then there are still lines of action available under Nigeria's laws.

If Deborah Samuels chooses not to retract her comments and apologize, the next legal option is she can be sued by Nigerian Moslems. It is telling that you bypassed this option completely and moved to the enforcement of Islamic capital punishment - for blasphemy.

Nigerian federal law simply doesn't allow you to do this.



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Your real views are becoming clearer and clearer. I like that, because everyone knows what the issues are and where they stand.

You clearly support the actions of the mob and their instant Islamic 'justice'. You also acknowledge the possibility that people may be falsely accused of blasphemy and speedily killed but such 'wrongful deaths' are ok with you...because they are a useful deterrent to any would be blasphemers. In the space you inhabit, such wrongful deaths are a 'small' price to pay for keeping potential blasphemers against Islam in check.

Nigeria is a theocracy and she doesn't even know it.

I hope non-Moslems are taking notes.



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The above sounds so empty and hollow.

Your prior comments have made your real position very clear. Any non-Moslems who 'dine with you without headaches' are hopelessly naive and have no sense of self preservation.

Once again, I hope non-Moslems are taking notes.

I'm not here to apologize to you or whatsoever.

Anyone (even myself) who blaspheme I got no problem with mob action but would best love if the authority takes up the matter!

We know christians preaches love and even go further to say....."turn the other cheek" Islam don't have to copy that.

We Muslims can only be good to the Christians/other faiths if we leave Islam otherwise we always have taboos for them to complain. Then why making peace?

Padipadi:
Muslim authorities are meant to sue for peace. A caution is enough to make late Deborah Samuel take orders if indeed she blasphemed. Mobs don't even wait to confirm such stories before acting. Should Christians too be killing Muslims that err at will? Will you be happy? You think you're the only one that knows how to mob or v a strong religious backing? Should the country kuku burn and let everything be yam pepper scatter-scatter? What do you mean by execution to be carried out by Muslim bodies? Who's this janjawēed?
Lukgaf, see your disciple that you shared same mindset with? Is this how you all reason? You are all setting up the country for danger.
You defended the actions cos you love demonic acts. Maybe you should be treated with same fate when you erred too.

There are many Alfas that openly preach heresy against Christianity.
It's you muslims that aren't doing that.
In fact should we bring out list of blasphemy killings of Christians in Nigeria alone?
Are you aware if Nigerian Christians should be proactive as IDF, there ll be killings of many muslims?
If your religion is indeed religion if peace, this man won't be dead, https://www.nairaland.com/8132066/police-fail-make-arrests-after
and Deborah Samuel won't be dead. It's a shame to defend this acts from your religion!

[b]I made my stand clea[/b]r: I got no problem mob going after anyone (whether it be my blood or even Muslim) who blaspheme but would best love if the authority take up the matter.

SAYING ISLAM IS PEACE IS THE BIGGEST MISCONCEPTION: yes it is peace only if wills are all submitted to our Creator. You blaspheme and you wanted us to say Islam is peace? Adultery, stealing/robbery/corruption, all other forms of sins will be committed and we just watch and say Islam is peace? Never

After establishing an enabling institution/environment where law and order will be abided, prescribed way of life will be followed, then definitely Peace will be achieved otherwise there will not be peace.


Alfas attacking christians is different from blaspheme. I can attck christians by saying Jesus isn't God, it's the claim of the church. Jesus himself say my God is One. I'm by myself can't do anything. I'm born of woman. I eat. God don't etc. but to call Jesus or similar figures with bad names, never.

Christians may decide to attack we the by saying: our prophet married a 9 year old girl, Muslims didn't believe in salvation, and stuff like that. No problem in that.


As for the IDF, 7 months after the bombardment and its still going on, has Islam ceased to existed ? or has Hamas surrendered? Its a case of Palestine Vs Israel, USA, Europe. In the absence of US alone, Israel will not exist!

Islam has seen worse since the prophet was alive. If there will be someone who's not afraid of death, that should be a Muslim.

I will gladly like the Nigerian Christians to act like the IDF so that the blame games end. Could you imagine any riot in plateau or Benue, Muslims are blamed for? And their govt are all christians?

ibabz:
so you supported the killing of Deborah? you are just a potential terrorist qed.

Calling Muslims terrorists isn't a news.

Fujiyama:
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Your first sentence shows where you truly stand. You support the killing of a woman because she 'hurt other people in the name of freedom of expression'. There was no investigation, no inquiry, no interrogation of suspects, nothing. The mob just straight up killed that woman and that was where it ended. And you are clearly fine with it. In your mind, she got what she deserved.

Your last sentence is essentially asking the system to work - there should be an investigation by the police, witnesses should be called, suspects should be interrogated etc. and in the end, justice should be served. That's how its supposed to work and your comment shows you want it to be so.

If you cannot see the mind blowing contradiction between your clear support for the killers of Deborah Samuels...and your demand for justice in the Iseyin case, then...

Or perhaps...you do know exactly what you are doing. Perhaps you do know there is a glaring contradiction in your position but you can't be bothered because you have a sinister, devious agenda. Which is it?

At least someone whom I can reason with and do understand analogy.


I made a reply to the poster who made a comparison that if it were the Muslim dominated area, those couples would have died by now and then go on to quote Deborah incidence.

At least for the Deborah, there was a case of allegation. What of this couple ? What was their offense?

Guy, between me and my God, the moment I heard this Deborah incident, I as a Muslim I pity for the girl. Our actions make us have this global recognition as terrorists.
First, it was a case of allegation; secondly, if it happened to be true, she must be called to retract, apologize and never to do again; lastly if the second option failed, it's the Muslims authority that will carry out the execution. This is how it should be carried out Islamically.

But later on, those against the killing goes on to defend her by saying "she got freedom to speak as she likes, even if it hurts others" Seriously? After this uproar, I then changed my mind and defended the actions of the mob. Should this not be done, we would have heard hundreds of similar incidents now. Sure, we can't prevent this from happening as long as you are in your dominated areas or online.

The mob carried out the execution. I blame them for their actions. On the other hand I am in support. We would love to see the justice reigns but the system isn't in support. We might kill her wrongly but we prevent the frequency and high tendency of occurrence of such incidents.

If you may ask why do we react barbaric like this:
It's a choice: you can embrace & hug those who insult, call your parents with bad names & say they are just expressing their views and that let your parents take the revenge themselves.

Trace Muslims records back: We respect religion figures. Bring me a case of incidence where Muslims as a group or individual slander the Christianity religion figures.


I live in the core North, christians & Muslims share perimeter fences together. The most important thing is: Respect for one another! Students also happened to find themselves in a mix of the Muslims community. Everyone goes on with their normal life. I got christians friends, whom to now, I dine with them without headaches.

Let's learn to respect one another

cucumbar:
Omo… you are really stupid for such statement.
So whatever it was she expressed justified her killing?

See who I Dey share country with.

You are worse than an animal.

Thousand times Muslims will repeat it should this happen in again. Even if it's our own blood that blaspheme.

Just because you make mockery of your religion doesn't mean Islam should be like that.

Zonefree:
I don't operate on the assumptions of "IF".

In Sokoto, Deborah was lynched by her course mates. She didn't even do half of what this Muslim man is doing in a Christian dominated area.

Deborah was killed because she think she can hurt other people by going Scott free in the name of freedom of expression. Few weeks back, in America, the so called mother of democracy, a man was arrested for expressing his mind against the POTUS. What a doubled standards

What was the crime of these couples against those attackers?

DRironCondem:
The prophet?

Yes! He married her at that age. Nothing can be done.

A pedophile can't marry a 40 years old woman as first wife without re-marrying until after her death 😎

vanbonattel:
According to INEC, the people knows who won. You can keep consoling yourself because you know in your heart that he won. Oya, rant more to console your self ,

Oya.

Yes Obi won in SE

CilicMarin:
As if he is innocent...All Custom officers are bloody criminals.

No a single human being who's fault-free. He's much better compared to his counterparts in other agencies.

bennybuhari:
What's so special about Mecca or his cone head?

Sure for Makka, something is special: it's a place where kings, Queens, heads of state, the rich, poor, black, white, servant, Godfathers, Arab, English, Africa, Asia, The Americans, tall, short, the blinds, people with disabilities, etc, all mixed up in their millions and come before their Creator.

Yes, the only place the whole world

Techpik:
Hello guys is me techpik, your neighbourhood website developer.


I have notice this restrictions on non muslim for a very long time on nairaland.

You must accept that you're a muslim before you can make a comment on muslim post.

And if you bash any muslim post, you'll banned.

Is nairaland a muslim forum, make we know and stop coming to this forum and leave it for muslim alone.

If other religions non muslim should leave nairaland, the website wont be rated in africa again and will loss is traffics and value.

Pls mods and seun should make this forum a better place for non muslims too.

I know seun and his mods will soon ban me or delete this post soon.

This is common to get dude: The Christians communities tries to teach people that they should be pacifism in nature, no cause for violence or fighting even if people are hurt while as Islam isn't like that.

You can allow people to slander your loved ones, claiming that let them by themselves come and defend themselves while as others wouldn't waste a second to fight back should their loved ones (father, mother, religion figures, etc) be slandered. That's choice.

Therefore i guess the Muslim community of the forum appeal for restrictions t from the forum head and their demand was granted. Simple! No need for the christians to panic. They always give the other cheek...

StreetFight:
You supposed know am nah, it's very popular. It's not far from pineapple market, just opposite banana market, and adjacent to mango market

Sure this is a well known market in Fruit street

yyba:
They are well known for substandards

It's uncalled for please.
Lets do the mockery if lives aren't in danger, if we must do it

Nwaikpe:
Within hours, the Malawian Airforce could find the wreckage.

The world military super power of Nigerian muslims, Iran, could not find their president 1 week after the wreckage. grin grin grin

If Israel permit this African country to fight Iran, they will reduce Tehran to dust in 3 days. Malawi will conquer Iran, allah and his lunatic messenger in 4 days

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Just a strip, bombs strikes in there is more than that of WWII; Israel, UK, USA, Canada, Germany and co Vs Gaza strip.

Still, never will a day pass without the phrase Allahu Akbar

Arobaga:
God wey run am for them go run am for us





RIP

God don't answer such!

Godons1:
The other day. Police arrested Emeka who specializes in producing fake medicines.

God of Mercy

I pray these things no get any effect for body

Botragelad:
Observe the individuals up there speaking nonsense, thinking it will dissuade Israel from taking action against Hamas. Israel has anticipated these reactions and is fully prepared.

You may impose bans and engage in futile efforts, but Israel remains unconcerned. The objective is clear: Hamas must be eliminated entirely, down to the last member. The rantings of terrorist supporters, who are inconsequential in this matter, will not alter the outcome.

Yes. like the way their Godfather (USA) did in Afghanistan to Taliban.

RIP to the deceased .

Despite all the safety precautions, a way and the other, we die

Bubu4Sea:
Jesus said He is the Son of God, that's why He lives & ur mohammed is dead😁

And even after Muhammad's death, the name is giving you guys sleepless nights. No wonder.

What we have argued so far, i can confidently conclude that:
✓ Jesus never claimed divinity but the church- goers claimed it for him
✓ The Bible do contradict itself, saying something here and saying otherwise there, hence the need for major editions ( A supposed holy book )
✓ Jesus calling himself son of God isn't something new. So many prophet and were also been called with that name.
✓ If christians can't defend themselves, they immediately turn to preaching mode or start to trolls ( as it can be seen from your post).

I do enjoy this conversation with you until now.

Bubu4Sea:
Jesus said He is the Son of God, which means He too is God.

Joh 5:17-18 KJV
17 But Jesus answered them, My Father worketh hitherto, and I work.

18 Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill him, because he not only had broken the sabbath, but said also that God was his Father, making himself equal with God.

I made quotes of Jesus claiming himself not being God.

It would be more appropriate if you also make quotes of Jesus to support your claims.


Up there, some parts of the Bible claim Jesus to be God in which there's not a single quote or acts of of Jesus himself saying or supporting that.

Nevertheless, I bring to you a counter-evidence that say Jesus is a Man/servant of God

'Men Of Israel, Listen To This: Jesus Of Nazareth Was A Man Accredited By God To You By Miracles, Wonders And Signs, Which God Did Among You Through Him, As You Yourselves Know." (ACTS 2:22)

Jesus Was A Servant Of God (MATTHEW 12:18)

"The God Of Abraham, Isaac And Jacob, The God Of Our Fathers, Has Glorified His Servant Jesus. (ACTS 3:13)

'God Raised Up His Servant' (ACTS 3:26)

"Your Holy Servant Jesus, Whom You Anointed. (ACTS 4:27)

'Of Your Holy Servant Jesus, Cacts 4:30)

"Behold, My Servant, Whom I Have Chosen, In Whom My Soul Is Well Pleased. (MATT 12:18)

Bubu4Sea:
Isa 9:6 KJV For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

Ok let's look at the below, from Jesus himself:

"You (Father) The Only True GOD". JOHN 17:3

"The head of Christ is GOD". CORINTHIANS 11:13

"i'm going to my GOD". JOHN 20:17

"My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?". MATTHEW 27:46

"Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD". MARK 12:29

"Why do you call Me good? no one is Good except GOD Alone". MARK 10:18

Or is Christianity not for shallow minded people like us?

Why don't we just follow what Jesus say rather than what you decide to attribute to him? It was this kind of habit that led to editions of the Bible: not just edition but major editions of the Bible

Let's be realistic to ourselves

Bubu4Sea:
You blaspheme Jesus by denying He is God

Ooops
when Jesus himself said he's a born of a woman? Could God be born of a woman?

Bubu4Sea:
If it were the god of religion of peace or baphomet on the dress , the silly security guard would be okay.

The world hates Jesus, that's why I say we don't have the same god as the religion of peace.

The god of the religion of peace hates Jews & Christians.
Proving he is not our God & Hence not God.
And will never be God

Why the yarning?
Do whatsoever you wish to do within yourselves. Muslims don't give a fuc.k.

Only if you cross the line, then you will hear Muslims.
Again, never has or will a Muslim blaspheme Jesus. Know this.

Its always christians things to give the other cheek...