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Sotdav:
https://punchng.com/breaking-senate-asks-service-chiefs-to-step-aside-following-soldiers-killings/

New Development

ill believe it when they step down.. plus If it’s true, there might not be a recruitment this year from any of the services

jelraj:
Pls under which corps do we have the snipers?

lol guess

hargbajaylorla:
I don't think NA soldiers can stay up to a year without firing a rifle. Naija police yeah maybe, but Army almost impossible

the ones in yaba, Abuja, edo, etc.. who are they shooting at?

explosiveskull:
Seconded.
I really never liked this awkward ak to start with, I heard it comes with only 30 rounds per magazine.
Another thing is that our soldiers to be retrained time from time cos you'll see a soldier mounting roadblock and can be in this road block posting for years and in those years never shot his gun or saw any fire fight, wouldn't them must have forgotten how to aim and shoot accurately.
Am of the opinion that in every 6 months depending on your corp to always go for retraining.

some bases dey get shooting range...

explosiveskull:
That weapon looks less heavy when compared to ak47 and looks easier to handle. You know when going to war, weight matters alot for your comfort and not to be distracted .

carries more ammo too

hargbajaylorla:
Oga dey run, boys dey follow am for back

so what about those men that are KIA? They wanted to be hero’s?

Since 2015 they’ve approved this... but men are still carrying aks
That’s the former DG of DICON and this is 5 years after... na AK47 still be standard issue..

Plus I want to believe that every soldier killed would have run if they had the chance to...
We fit just dey talk am like this make we no know how it happens there... what if you are flanked from every side? No direction to run to..and everywhere is enemy territory..the uniform alone puts you in trouble

explosiveskull:
Like if an officer survives an ambush and runs away and luckily gets to the barracks, will he be court martialed?
Me am planning to not even indulge in any firefight but to peacefully abscond if it is possible.

lol my guy if all of you peacefully abscond the. No wahala but it can’t be everytime.. that’ll be a coward move if it’s an everytime thing.. it’ll keep you alive no doubt but once word gets out that you always run...it’ll end badly
Plus I want to believe that every soldier killed would have run if they had the chance to...
We fit just dey talk am like this make we no know how it happens there... what if you are flanked from every side? No direction to run to..and everywhere is enemy territory..the uniform alone puts you in trouble

explosiveskull:
Not entirely like that of scarce work, some people are really passionate about the army. someone, like me is going with the assurance that there are some officers who has been in that north east for 5 years and noting have touched them and they've been facing fire and surviving, so I personally believe my case maybe that way, not everyone will die young, I believe am also in that category but if peradventure any other thing happens, then it means my time is up because this life no go fit balance even, en no balance for almighty God Him carry His own son sacrifice, whatever we do, we should be guided by our conscience. This ogboli guy na my tight man from ssc44, was posted to port and even had one benue girl by name faith for dssc 25 that he said he no wan friend again and the girl was wishing him evil that she loves how they posted him to northwest now my man don wake, him time don reach.
Me if I succeed I will marry very late when I know my chances of survival in the army is about 60% cos I wouldn't want to put any woman to an untold hardship peradventure I die early.
My brother Guideon Ogboli, rest in the bossom of the almighty, you are a source of hope, inspiration and true selflessness to we that will try to finish your fight. God will grant your family the fortitude to bear your loss. I believe you are in a better place now.

im still saying it...people dey commot there..untouched or with scratches..people die..

Richieurch:
The Brig Gen was an RC not an SSC

my bad

Judging by what happened in course 45 sef... if nobody reports for ssc screening, the army would just pick Dssc and offer the remaining ones Ssc
Lol many people didn’t take that offer

Oladeligt:
The most dreaded Major Umar Dagga. I heard he became an officer through EC. Don't know how true it is though.

yeah I heard so too
He might have been retired now... judging from how long he must have spent as an NCO and then a commissioned officer..

explosiveskull:
Please who knows the whereabouts of one captain dagga that trains regular intakes then?

hes been a major for a while now..
but it’s true...not heard anything about him

explosiveskull:
But dssc are not trained to command troops, so how we go do am na?

like this would matter anymore... people that were trained for it are dying

let the form just come out first sha! Before we begin to make decisions

Arisukuni:
Lol. I pity you coursemate!

Am sure you were also present during SSC 45 screening, through am not sure you were present at 46. You see if you have any chance get it into DSSC you better embraced it now! And forget this your sweet mouth for SSC! Even strong men wey dey reason SSC since 2017 for course 44 don dey change their mind to go for DSSC now, ask person like ugo4u, remember then as he use to crave for SSC back then. But now he don already see the reality, Army na Army abeg. I remembered vividly during this last course 46 screening, this Brig Gen that is tall and slim like this, I think he was the only one star General on ground then, he is dark, he has small head like this, please people that remember his name should remind me please. That man is a product of NDA, a regular, he said something while we were in the Drill shield, he said if he had know back then he joined NDA as a regular and suffered about 5 years as a Cadet, he would have considered DSSC. He was saying it literally that DSSC now better! Only people that pay attention to details would decode the message he was trying to pass then. Whether you are SSC, DSSC or regular you all are for same purpose which is serving and defending your country. So you all should stop all these mentality of DSSC will not attain some certain rank in the Army before retirement, there are DSSC officers getting to rank of Brig Gen, even some Maj Gen, things are changing fast now and so many things are been politicised. Moreso its not all that will live to witness this General ranks, some lives will be cut short and some will opt out on the long run as a result of lack of passion. No one is a coward or fear of death here. Just advising you not to be ignorant and most importantly USE YOUR HEAD!!!

Cheers!

i was there and I heard him say it... plus the brigadier general isn’t an RC... he is SSC
I’ve said it here before, I heard him say it in the drill shed..but last last somebody still has to do this job.
It’s good you noted that things are changing and we talked about something that might change soon as well...
Ugo mentioned something in a chat about the army pulling out all RC from the north east..
Which means the DSSC might be a point for focus now so ideally, what’s stopping a DSSC officer from experiencing the same fate an SSC officer would?

Ramirezsarki:
150k no wonder the sword dy shine, that sword is equivalent to a month wage

lol youll use 1 month salary to buy sword.

ELJC:
Not my business if you die you form more manure and crude

you think the people that’ll make navy’s final list are on nairaland ranting ? Oga go and sidown

ELJC:
Well the both of you are free to waste your life I don’t care, just telling peeps here not to be deceived by preposterous fellow like you both. Peace.

its like you are mad! I’ve been telling you off since morning and you’ve kept saying this rubbish... is it your family’s business what I want to do with my life? Baba jazz up before you regret it

ELJC:
Yes I agree, but what’s the ratio compared to the army, Most of the Naval rates and officers in the NE are SBS.

just keep consoling yourself bro

Hi

Gentlelord:
Hmmmm I see. I just ask my SSC guy now him say dem(NA) dey dey issue dem say but DSSC dey buy. Then I asked another of my DSSC guy him say dem dey issue dem too. I nor know wetin I wan believe again. The SSC guy actually mentioned around the range of the price you mentioned.
P. S
me and these guys na close paddy, we all serve 2geda. But d DSSC guy since after piping dey form oga for us civilians unlike the SSC guy wey still dey relate with street wella

So one of the pictures my Dssc guys that’ll pass out this week sent to me, they were all crying swords on parade... so I don’t know if it’s for them to keep or it’s just for parade in jaji

Kalapizim:
Dey there make pant wear you.

lol no be him wan wear pant! Lmao

ugo4u:
You buy or rent or borrow from quartermaster..
The cost of a sword is N150k.

lol happy renting.. abi I don buy ni

Gentlelord:
A quick one guys, at POP, do the Military (NA, NN, NAF) also issue DSSC guys the sword or its just the RC guys and the SSC guys that are being issued. For the ring, I know it's only RC guys tgat are issued

i think they buy these things... late Lieutenant HS Buba was selling some of this rings to his course mates.. you buy them including the sword
Dem dey sell all these things

QuadrilAyinde:
(1) THE AK-47 IS MORE USER FRIENDLY, EASIER TO MAINTAIN AND DOESN'T JAM

The AK-47 is an easily operated rifle and it is perfectly suitable for poorly trained or untrained recruits.

The M16 is a different story. It’s design and technology make M-16 a more modern and more advanced weapon than AK-47 but works best in the hands of a well-trained soldier, not really easy to use and maintain as AK-47 and therefore it’s not suitable for recruits and poorly trained soldiers.

(2) THE M16 HAS A DECISIVE ADVANTAGE IN THE MAXIMUM EFFECTIVENESS RANGE.

The AK-47 assault rifle is chambered in 7.62 mm caliber. Its maximum effective range is limited up to 400 meters. In fact, this weapon is not really meant to shoot at a range of more than 200 meters.  Beyond that, it will hardly hit anything.

The M16 weighs half as much with the full magazine than the AK-47. It is because the rifle is chambered with a slimmer 5.56 mm bullet. This bullet travels really fast. As a result, the M16 is more has a longer range and is more accurate than AK-47. Because of that, the M16 has a maximum effective range of 400-500 meters.

(3) THE M16 HAS AN ADVANTAGE IN CALIBER WHICH MAKES IT A MORE ACCURATE WEAPON, BOTH IN SEMI-AUTO AND FULL-AUTO MODE.

When it comes to accuracy, the M16 is a much more accurate weapon than the AK-47. M16 has less recoil and it is a much smoother-operating weapon which means it can be easier controlled during full-auto fire. The recoil of the M16 moves the weapon very little due to its internal design and the 5.56 mm caliber. Also, its buttstock is lined up with the barrel. This feature additionally reduces the muzzle climb.

On the other hand, the AK-47 is much heavier and poorly balanced with a more powerful cartridge. Because of its internal mechanism, the AK-47 recoil is slightly out of the center. Furthermore, internal mechanisms of the AK-47 assault rifle are essentially big chunks of metal that move violently after each shot. Also, this weapon has a traditional position of the buttstock (depends on version, fixed or foldable buttstock). All of these features combined cause muzzle climb after each shot. It makes the AK-47 very inaccurate during full-auto fire.

(4) THE AK-47 IS SUPERIOR IN TERMS OF PENETRATION.

The AK-47 uses a 7.62mm round with a heavier bullet. It’s a bullet that is slower and less accurate. But its share power is indisputable. This weapon is superior in terms of penetration and stopping power.

On the other hand, the M16 uses a lighter 5.56 mm round. It has a slimmer bullet that travels faster. However, the punch of the M16 is not that strong, but as it is mentioned it is faster, more accurate and with better range.

(5) THE M16 IS A LIGHTER WEAPON.

As the US Military required a lightweight weapon, the low weight of the M16 was the driving emphasis of the whole design. The M16 benefits from lightweight materials in its construction. Also, it uses lighter rounds. As a result, the M16 can weigh around 30% less than the AK-47. It is more comfortable to carry around and the shooter can carry more of its ammunition. So lighter weapon is better, especially if you are the guy that has to carry it. It is estimated that if a user of AK-47 carries on 6 mags, the operator with M16 can have 10 mags.

On the other hand, the AK-47 uses little weight saving methods.

(6) THE AK-47 IS A MORE DURABLE WEAPON

The AK-47 is an enduring weapon with a robust design. It can take any misuses that soldier can throw at it. If the battle moves into hand-to-hand combat you can really smack your enemy with the AK-47s buttstock.

On the other hand, a fiberglass buttstock of the M16 is not durable as a wooden buttstock of the AK-47. So low overall weight of the weapon was a trade-off at this point.

(7) THE AK-47 IS A MORE RELIABLE WEAPON

The AK-47 has a malfunction rate of 1 per 1 000 rounds fired.

The M16 has a malfunction rate of 2 per 1 000 rounds fired.

( THE M16 IS SUPERIOR IN TERMS OF ERGONOMICS.

It seems that ergonomics was the last thing that bothered the developer of the AK-47. This weapon is poorly balanced. Also, its controls are not well thought-off and are stiff to operate. It takes more time to change the magazine on the AK-47 than on the M16.

On the other hand, the M16 was intended with ergonomics in mind. All of its controls are well designed, well-positioned and easily used. Also, it has a built-in carrying handle on the top making it easier to carry. The M16 is considered one of the most ergonomic weapons in the world. In terms of ergonomics, it is superior to the AK-47 in most respects.

(9) THE M16 HAS BETTER SIGHTS AND BETTER ACCURACY.

From the design of the sights, it is clear that the M16 was designed to be more accurate from the very start. The American assault rifle has a little ‘peep’ sight on the back that can be flipped for ‘short’ or ‘long’ range. The front post sight is called ‘bunny ears’. Similar sights are used by Americans since World War II.

Sights of the AK-47 are very crude. It is clearly not as good as that of the M16. It has an adjustable notch on the back that can be set to a range of up to 800 meters. However, it is more of a psychological boost for untrained recruits. In reality, the maximum range of effective fire is limited to 300-400 meters. Beyond that, it will hardly hit anything.

(10) THE AK-47 IS THE MUCH CHEAPER RIFLE TO BUILT THAN THE M16.

Although many variants are available for both the rifles, when comparing the base models, the AK-47 is significantly cheaper than M16. The government price of the AK-47 can range from $150 to $200, depending on manufacturer and contract.

The government price of the M16 was $673 per new unit as of the U.S. Army’s 2012 contract.


OVERALL.....

TO SUM IT UP, BOTH M16 AND AK-47 HAVE THEIR OWN STRENGTHS AND WEAKNESSES. BOTH OF THESE WEAPONS CONTINUE TO DEMONSTRATE THEIR EFFECTIVENESS. AND BOTH OF THESE WEAPONS REMAIN IN DEMAND. THE M-16 HAS TECHNICAL SUPERIORITY IN 3 KEY AREAS, INCLUDING RANGE, ACCURACY, AND WEIGHT.

THE AK-47 HAS A REMARKABLE ADVANTAGE OF SIMPLE AND EASY TO MAINTAIN CONSTRUCTION. SO, I GUESS IT IS A NO-WIN SITUATION. IT DEPENDS ON THE USER, WHAT HE WILL CHOOSE.

abeg bro no vex ooo I wan ask you...shey you dey sabi all these things before ni or you dey always copy am from somewhere?

ugo4u:
Gentlemen and ladies POP calendars for DSSC 25 are trickling in already and it's a lovely sight to behold.
omo that two stars they make person fine die, if una see as them carry shoulders with pride like say them wear iron shoulder pad you will be impressed. Infact DSSC don dey hungry me, you see that one lonely star SSC dey wear? e no dey balance at all for shoulder

lol scam! The pictures they sent me.. they weren’t looking good at all... uniform Was looking like spaghetti on their body...
Boss it’s only the star you are looking at... look beyond the stars.

ELJC:
Am not telling you not to join the army for your info I would be very glad if you succed

thank you ooooo

ELJC:
Yeah I know that, how many Navy Personel have lost their lives recklessly compared to the Army in the northeast. I blame ps4 you think you have another live after being eliminated smh.

lol gimme your phone number lemme add you to a navy officers group full of Dssc officers and let them tell you Their experiences in ne and how many of their course mates have paid the supreme price... drop your WhatsApp no

Kalapizim:
He doesn't even know Navy personnel are deployed to the North east.

shhhh don’t tell him bro...he thinks it’s the pictures he’s seeing online...my friends that got the last air force Dssc, 2 of them are in NE..and most of them will go he said.. let him go and think he’ll be wearing navy ceremonial to wedding

When I watched the movie “hyena road” like Ugo suggested I heard the Canadian soldiers say “the taliban cane with AKs...which is a good weapon when you are in a kissing booth” meaning the weapon is a Shittu weapon according to international standards

ELJC:
Passion Passion until you land for NE na him your eye go clear mtchwwww

lol something is up with this baba... as you have made up your mind to take navy don’t demoralize the rest of us here abeg..we’ve heard you, you’ll do bank and navy.. and you’ll collect your Dssc medal in ph.. thank you sir