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Religion / Re: See How This Equation And Analogy Prove The Idea Of The Trinity Wrong by SisterSister(f): 11:55pm On Nov 06, 2015
BETATRON:
same sister it doesn't fit yes correct water can exist in three states but not at the same time...do you know that this concept of trinity was actually introduced into the bible centuries after christ?
Don't mean to disobey christ,I have full respect for him..anyways here is my question "if christ was equal to God the father how come he said "I was not sent but to the lost ship of the house of isreal" how is it logical for a God to send a God?


My brother, it fit well from God’s perspective. I know some do say the Trinity was introduced centuries after Christ but actually the Trinity was introduced in the first book of the Bible, Genesis.

And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth. Genesis 1:26 (KJV)

Then God said, “ Let us make human beings [a] in our image, to be like us. They will reign over the fish in the sea, the birds in the sky, the livestock, all the wild animals on the earth, and the small animals that scurry along the ground.” Genesis 1:26 (NLT)

Then God said, “[b] Let us make humankind
in our image, in the likeness of ourselves; and let them rule over the fish in the sea, the birds in the air, the animals, and over all the earth, and over every crawling creature that crawls on the earth.” Genesis 1:26 (CJB)

There is no harm in asking questions and I glad to hear you do have respect for Jesus Christ.

Here is the scripture you shared in context:
But Yeshua did not say a word to her. Then is talmidim came to him and urged him, “Send her away, because she is following us and keeps pestering us with her crying.” 24 He said, “I was sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Isra’el.” 25 But she came, fell at his feet and said, “Sir, help me!” 26 He answered, “It is not right to take the children’s food and toss it to their pet dogs.” Matthew 15:23-26 (CJB)

But Jesus gave her no reply, not even a word. Then his disciples urged him to send her away. “Tell her to go away,” they said. “She is bothering us with all her begging.” 24 Then Jesus said to the woman, “I was sent only to help God’s lost sheep—the people of Israel.” 25 But she came and worshiped him, pleading again, “Lord, help me!” 26 Jesus responded, “It isn’t right to take food from the children and throw it to the dogs.” Matthew 15:23-26 (NLT)

But he answered her not a word. And his disciples came and besought him, saying, Send her away; for she crieth after us. 24 But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel. 25 Then came she and worshipped him, saying, Lord, help me. 26 But he answered and said, It is not meet to take the children's bread, and to cast it to dogs. Matthew 15:23-26 (KJV)

The Bible has to be taken whole, not in parts.

Question: "If Jesus was God, how could He pray to God? Was Jesus praying to Himself?"

Answer: To understand Jesus as God on earth praying to His Father in heaven, we need to realize that the eternal Father and the eternal Son had an eternal relationship before Jesus took upon Himself the form of a man. Please read John 5:19-27, particularly verse 23 where Jesus teaches that the Father sent the Son (also see John 15:10). Jesus did not become the Son of God when He was born in Bethlehem. He has always been the Son of God from eternity past, still is the Son of God, and always will be.

Q &A Source continued
http://www.gotquestions.org/Jesus-pray-God.html
Religion / Re: See How This Equation And Analogy Prove The Idea Of The Trinity Wrong by SisterSister(f): 9:19pm On Nov 06, 2015
dolphinheart:

Pls show prove of these.


Is jesus a person or not?
Is the holy spirit a person or not?
Is the father a person or not? .
If you say they are persons, then we have 3 persons!



False translation inserted by those who are trying to make the scripture support the false doctrine.
just pointed out the translation of a verse that I have issues with.



We can share what we have read when we have examined some issues of mistranslations found in the version you suggested.

Always remember what jesus told mary, I have not yet ascended to my god and ur god.


[b]Who is Jesus? Is Jesus God
http://www.everystudent.com/features/faith.html

Who is the Holy Spirit?
http://www.everystudent.com/forum/hspirit.html

How Can One God be Three Persons?
http://www.christiananswers.net/q-eden/edn-t002.html

1 John 5:7 says, the Father, the Word and the Holy Ghost and these three are one. Why do you say the translation is false and the doctrine is false?

Here is 1 John 5:6-8 in three translations:

This is he that came by water and blood, even Jesus Christ; not by water only, but by water and blood. And it is the Spirit that beareth witness, because the Spirit is truth. 7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. 8 And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.
1 John 5:6-8 King James Version (KJV)


And Jesus Christ was revealed as God’s Son by his baptism in water and by shedding his blood on the cross[a]—not by water only, but by water and blood. And the Spirit, who is truth, confirms it with his testimony. 7 So we have these three witnesses[b]— 8 the Spirit, the water, and the blood—and all three agree. 1 John 5:6-8 New Living Translation (NLT)

He is the one who came by means of water and blood, Yeshua the Messiah — not with water only, but with the water and the blood. And the Spirit bears witness, because the Spirit is the truth. 7 There are three witnesses — 8 the Spirit, the water and the blood — and these three are in agreement. 1 John 5:6-8 Complete Jewish Bible (CJB)


I personally use KJV and NLT but recently began reading through CJB and Geneva 1611. There is grave caution regarding the number of Bible translations available today. Many translations are now copyrighted, where before they were just published. To retain copyright, usually something has to be changed; thus, so many words have been omitted. In addition, whole verses have been totally removed.

I agree with you about sharing what we read and add we should also share the story of our life. I have provided the translations above.

John 20:16-18 (KJV)
Jesus saith unto her, Mary. She turned herself, and saith unto him, Rabboni; which is to say, Master. 17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God. 18 Mary Magdalene came and told the disciples that she had seen the LORD, and that he had spoken these things unto her.

Jesus told what would happen to him before it even happened. Yet, his disciples didn’t see at first. Jesus said he would be crucified, resurrect and return to heaven. And, that is exactly what he did.
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Religion / Re: See How This Equation And Analogy Prove The Idea Of The Trinity Wrong by SisterSister(f): 8:18pm On Nov 06, 2015
BETATRON:

A poor analogy to use.maybe I should term it as desperation
1 mind body and spirit aint one they perform different functions and complement each other on other occasions...you bath the body and not the mind and spirit..the body gets pregnant not the mind or soul,the body eats not the spirit
The body dies the mind dies not the spirit...the body grows old and worn out not the spirit...what are you trying to say when you use this analogy for trinity...do they perform different functions??
If they are indeed equal and the same why did christ exclaim "I was SENT only to the lost ship of the house of isreal? Who sent Him? How can a God send a God? You only send one who is lower than you in rank...and finally sending some1 makes him a messenger...so I think you should have a rethink and not bring up analogies that don't fit in

There is no just analogy or words to accurately describe the Trinity, we only try. Another analogy is one of water. Water can be liquid, ice and gas but yet in all three states, it’s still water. Desperation doesn’t have anything to do with it. Care has everything to do with it. It is true what you said but it is not the gist or the heart of the matter. The analogy is just a lead. I can’t do the work required to grasp God and who He is as the Father, Son and Holy Spirit. It is only you who can do this. One pastor says this of the Trinity, "Scripture shows how each member of the Trinity fulfills His specific role, and it also reveals how those three roles interrelate. Let me express this idea in simple terms: The Father creates a plan, Jesus Christ implements the plan, and the Holy Spirit administers the plan”.

Quote Source:
http://www.jesus.org/is-jesus-god/holy-trinity/the-roles-of-the-trinity.html
Romance / Re: Why I Divorced My Husband After 3 Days Of Marriage by SisterSister(f): 8:20pm On Nov 05, 2015
My dear, please take the time to heal your "self"...mind, body, heart and spirit in Jesus name. If not, it may repeat. Your ex may be a lover of self that 2 Timothy chapter 3 speaks of. In our days, lovers of self are known by a different name. I was going to post small but I will add the whole and post the link for the comments. If you read some of what people are passing through, you will understand better what might have happened with you.

God bless you and your life
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The 3 Phases of a Narcissistic Relationship Cycle: Over- Evaluation, Devaluation, Discard

A relationship with a Narcissist has been compared to being on a roller coaster, with immense highs and immense lows. They have been described as the proverbial Jekyll and Hyde, one way one minute, another the next.

People usually get into relationships for love and the need to connect and bond with another. Narcissists get into relationships for entirely different reasons. They do not feel love and they lack the ability to connect and form normal attachment bonds with others.

Narcissists need people more than anyone. Because their entire sense of self-esteem and self-worth is dependent on the admiration of others, their emotions are a precarious balance of needing others and needing to be left alone.

Narcissists feel an enormous void inside of them. This void is ever present and the only thing that fills it, is the love and esteem of another. The fix is always temporary though. A Narcissist describes it this way, “It’s like my brain is constantly seeking something. It’s like I’m always chasing a carrot at the end of a stick. Nothing I do satisfies me, at least not for long. I feel like I only do things because I’m supposed to, because society does it. I don’t feel like I belong anywhere or with anyone.”

Narcissists are completely self-absorbed and are oblivious to the wants and needs of others. They enter into relationships in an attempt to fill this void and to make sure that they have someone who is always available for sex, an ego stroke or whatever need they may have. A relationship with a Narcissist always follows three phases, the over-evaluations phase, the devaluation phase and the discard phase.

[b]The Over-evaluation Phase
[/b]A Narcissist is very careful when choosing a target. Typically, they will choose a victim based on their status. They must be attractive, popular, rich or extremely gifted in some area. The greater the status, the higher the value the Narcissist places on the Supply derived.
Once a target has been chosen, it’s almost like the Narcissist gets tunnel vision. They are hyper-vigilant in their pursuit and will project the perfect image that their victim wants them to be. They are excessively caring, loving and attentive at this stage. They shower their targets with attention, compliments and literally sweep them off their feet.

They place their target on a pedestal, idolize and worship them. Their target is the greatest thing since sliced bread. Here the Narcissist is ecstatic, full of hopes and dreams. They will talk and think about them constantly, they are euphoric. This is as close as a Narcissist will ever get to feeling love. This kind of idolization is what others would call infatuation.

The victim is likely so caught up in all the attention and is usually thinking at this point, that they have found their soul-mate. Their pursuer is exactly what they want in a partner (because the Narcissist is mirroring what they have learned appeals to their target) and they can’t believe how lucky they are and that this catch is still single.

What they don’t know, or could ever be prepared for, is what comes next.

[b]The Devaluation Stage
[/b]The Over-Evaluation phase, if you’re dealing with a Somatic Narcissist, usually lasts anywhere from a few weeks to a couple of months, just long enough for the Narcissist to be confident that they have secured their target’s love and devotion. Unbeknownst to the target, what they were witnessing in the early phase was the Narcissist’s false self. In this second phase, the mask comes off and the Narcissist starts to reveal their true colours.

The shift could be gradual or almost seemingly overnight. Suddenly the attention they so lavishly gave you is gone and replace by indifference and silence. Days or weeks could go by and you won’t hear from them. They don’t return your phone calls, they don’t keep a single promise and you’re starting to suspect that they might be involved with someone else. The target is left baffled and confused and wondering what they did wrong to cause such an abrupt turnaround.

Narcissists become bored easily and what usually starts happening in their heads at this stage, is that the void begins to emerge again. The high they were feeding off of is waning and they begin to question your worthiness, that perhaps you weren’t so special after all, because if you were then the void wouldn’t still be there.

They become moody and agitated easily, blaming you for even the slightest transgression. They start to disappear more frequently and they give you the silent treatment in an attempt to create distance. As the Narcissist withdraws, the target starts to cling and your demands for his attention and your need to understand what’s happening, grate on his nerves. The harder you cling the more the Narcissist pulls away. They start to blame and criticize the target for everything, treating them like an emotional punching bag.

At this point the target is an emotional wreck. The Narcissist has left without any explanation and they can’t figure out how one minute they were put on a pedestal and now it’s like they doesn’t even exist. The Narcissist is a projector and they are projecting their emotional turmoil onto you. They feed off of other people’s misery (as long as it’s caused by them) just as much as they feed off of your admiration, either way it makes no difference to them.

It is this person, this cruel, indifferent, unfeeling, sadist that is the behind the mask. Most targets desperately try to find the one they fell in love with. What they don’t realize is that that person never existed. They were a facade an act put on by the Narcissist to secure their Supply.
The Narcissist will take no responsibility for their actions, because they simply don’t care how they’ve treated you or how you are feeling.
Narcissists are not capable of forming normal healthy attachments to people. Those that aren’t familiar with the disorder are completely at a loss to understand how unnecessarily cruel their behavior can be. The target was never more than an object to the Narcissist, whose usefulness is on the decline.

The Narcissist isn’t one to throw away a potential piece of supply though. They will keep up this I love you, I love you not charade going for as long as it suits them or as long as you allow it. They will breeze in and out of your life as if nothing ever happened, completely oblivious and indifferent to your suffering.

This mind “game” is deliberate and they will keep feeding you crumbs of attention, just enough to keep you emotionally invested and available to cater to their every need.

At some point one of two things will happen: either they will find a new target and begin phase one with them, thus ignoring you completely, or you will have had enough of his psychotic abuse and you will take control and put an end to it, thus ushering In phase three.

[b] The Discard Phase
[/b]It is almost baffling to watch the ease at which a Narcissist can pull away from his partners. Many targets are left asking themselves, “Did he ever love me? Did I mean anything to him?” The simple answer is no. No one means anything to him. Women are only a means to an end – to obtain the much needed Narcissistic Supply. Once your usefulness has run its course, you will be discarded abruptly and cruelly, without warning.

Trying to get over a relationship with a Narcissist is extremely difficult. Once it is over the target is usually an emotional wreck, whose self-esteem has been annihilated by the persistent demeaning behavior, insults and cruelty of the Narcissist. Depending on when they were able to break free, the target maybe a shadow of their former self, with a lot of work ahead of them to rebuild their shattered self-image.

As a victim tries to pick up the pieces, what must be remembered is that you were deliberately targeted, lied to and manipulated by a skilled con-artist, for their own gain. There was nothing you could have done differently and none of this was your fault. The Narcissist will repeat this pattern with every person, every time, bar none.

All former targets must be vigilantly on guard, because a Narcissist always reserves the right to revisit a former source of supply, no matter how much time has passed or how badly they’ve behaved.

Once you have broken free you must close the door on any and all contact, because if you don’t you’re headed back to a watered down version of Phase One – over and over and over again.

Source and Comments:
http://esteemology.com/the-three-phases-of-a-narcissistic-relationship-cycle-over-evaluation-devaluation-discard/
Religion / Re: "Once Saved/Always Saved" Is Heresy by SisterSister(f): 7:30pm On Nov 05, 2015
ichuka:
So why would God promise and give someone Enternal Life if we believe(3:16),since the Life is not Enternal according to you?
Why would He even lie about it?
But the scriptue says He cannot lie(Numbers23:19)
Is Enternal Life exhaustible?

I concur [b][/b]
Religion / Re: Is Christianity A Foreign Religion To Nigeria? by SisterSister(f): 7:27pm On Nov 05, 2015
logicboy:



Simple question can have difficult questions. You say that "whether fire burns" is an easy question but there are millions of people that will tell you that holy ghost fire purifies.

Here's another easy question for you; does god exist?

Yes, God does exist.
Religion / Re: Is Christianity A Foreign Religion To Nigeria? by SisterSister(f): 7:24pm On Nov 05, 2015
logicboy:
Simple question. Is Christianity a foreign religion to Nigeria? It seems christians struggle with this question.

Also, how did Christianity come to Nigeria if it is foreign.



It is possible that Christianity is a foreign belief to Nigeria.

I say this why? Nigeria was not always named Nigeria. Historical research is required.

As well, a lot of what takes place in the Bible started in this part of the world, Africa. It is known by many that at one time Africa was the center of the world. Jesus is not a white and the Israelites are not white.

Belief in Jehovah God originated in the Garden of Eden with the first two human beings, Adam and Eve. The belief in God moved outwards upon the earth. Later, others beliefs arose and many chose to follower gods other than Jehovah God.
Travel / Re: The Disadvantages Of Obodo Oyibo Aka Abroad by SisterSister(f): 4:44am On Nov 05, 2015
thewatcher2020:


If you think the O.P. aint right on these issues quoted above, its either you have never LIVED (not visited) in a foreign country dominated by the white folks or you have grown a damn too tough skin to cushion against such weighty (from a sensitive perspective) issues such as racism and loneliness.

Life is not all about the money people. I swear, I understood this when I moved into this country some months ago. What I earn now is over $16,000/month. When you compare that to what i was earning in Nigeria with the fact that I had more responsibilities with litttle resources back there, you would know that right here- There is MONEY!

Back to the issue of Loneliness... It is so damn true. I bought my favorite car last week here, a Mercedes S500 just to make myself happy and take my mind away from this lonely state of mind, yeah its that bad. For me, the major escape route out of situations I cant control is just to peep into my bank account and spend, spend, spend till the account is feeling threatened! You are gonna die of isolation in here trust me if you are the type who once led a bubbly social life back in Nigeria. You get ignored by someone you had a 2 hour lively conversations with some nights ago and you'd just stand there and be thinking "Did he/she see me and walked past like that, or she isn't the same person?" features like this occur daily here.

Some of you would say "hey, go out and make friends". LOL. Do you know Racism is still very much alive in the west, but they are just concealing it? They practice what i would call Institutionalized racism mehnnn. it is a practice where the white folks look at you and smile back at you and willing to assist you with whatever BUT not willing to take it beyond that. I met some Nigerians here who's been living here for over 8 years yet they dont even have a LIFE! They'd pretend all is well -Socially but hey, they aint happy people. They are lonely. Many of them got good jobs and the ones with wives and kids cant really take their wives and kids to visit "friends" on sundays except of course the "friend" is a Nigerian and not a burden to them.

It wasn't with my clear eyes I resuscitated my friendship with some of my exes back in Nigeria. For no damn reason, I sent two IPhone 6S to different girls that I once dated back in Nigeria- one married, the other unmarried. Why? They were damn too good to me, I never appreciated those girls enough while we dated back then and coming here I realized how precious those girls were to me that sometimes I just wanna quit this place and head back home and Live Normal again but peeps be telling me "e go better". With money, these folks here would give you some level of FORCED respect but asides that you are not better off than the Imaginary monkeys in their heads.

I have got game people. Dont worry about all my rants above, I have got 3 white chics helping me ease tensions when necessary but let me tell you, the one i love so much, the Dad doesnt even talk to blacks. You can see where I'm coming from. We just bang, shop, club, surf, go to beach and have all that fun once work is pretty much less and leisure time is available but hey that feeling of emptiness creeps in every once in a while.

So it isn't about the money and all. But mortgage life sweet small sha. I just bought a duplex here and my monthly payment is being partially serviced by rents i receive from about 3 flats I bought some months immediately I landed my job- Na calculations here and there ooo people, I never knew I would be making financial decisions like this but thanks to the efficient system we've got in place here, You can plan your life better here than there in Nigeria. Isolation/Loneliness and Racism remains the bane of an African in this society. Even the lowest of the Low whites thinks he is better than you coz you are black.

Don't ever feel intimidated here. Got here with my self esteem still intact and I wouldn't trade that for anything. Some online merchants debited my account wrongly when i came in, i tried requesting for rectification but they were acting all bossy and shit. I didnt even bother wasting time, I just got a Lawyer, paid him about $4,750 for his services- asked him to file court papers and serve the airheads. They came begging the following week giving me my full refund of the fraudulent debit of $275 yeah... I sued for that amount when i felt these guys were treating me like this coz they were accustomed to treating Africans like that and hey they gave me my full cost of money $4,750 spent on the Legal services as part of the terms of settlement. My Lawyer a white guy was so surprised that a black man would go this length to seek redress hence he tried discouraging me with such high fee of $4,750 to fight for $275! I was even given a free gift card of $1000 afterwards.

That is just my experience so far in obodo Oyibo.


You have captured the life in print very well.

Glad to read you do not tolerate the racist whites delusional nonsense and dealt with that matter proper.

In Nigeria there is a different kind of closeness that many do not share in the US, unless one has a circle of good people both family and friends. Nobody in the US wants to get close to someone they don't know and have them drag them into trouble or jail. This has some to do with the felt distance. That loneliness for that closeness shared in Nigeria may linger until back in Nigeria.
Religion / Re: See How This Equation And Analogy Prove The Idea Of The Trinity Wrong by SisterSister(f): 4:10am On Nov 05, 2015
Jessicha:


That means the trinity is not correct

Trinity says there are three persons in one God . Nd the spirit of God The Father is considered a totally separate person .

Person 1 = the father

Person 2 = the son


Person 3 = holyspirit / spirit of God the father


Can you see ?



So what is he , Wind ? You av just destroyed the doctrine of trinity that said God is a combination of 3 distinct persons .

My dear, please re-read what I shared previously?

We, human beings, are one person. Mind, body, spirit = one person

God is not a person, God is spirit. The trinity is 3 in 1, but not 3 persons in 1 person. God the Father, Son/Word of God, Holy Spirit = One God


[color=#990000] "For there are THREE that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and THESE THREE ARE ONE". (1 John 5:7)

Will you be willing to do something? Will you read the book of John in the Bible, even if you have read it before? If I may suggest the King James Version and another version like New Living or which ever one you have available, so that you can compare the two as you read.

When you have finished reading the whole book of John, will you please return to this thread and share with us what you can? [/color]
Religion / Re: I will kill myself after this last attempt to survive by SisterSister(f): 5:19am On Nov 04, 2015
pesty100:
I think most people here are coward, what's the point of living a life that is futile, and what's the point of allowing him to remain to suffer more when you have no help to offer. My advice is to go as painless as you can if you know how. Death is a gift and certainty that if you don't embrace now you will only suffer more and still be forced to embrace.

That's just it, life is not futile. It's true situations and circumstances at times knock the wind out of us and trick us to believe it is easier not to stand our ground but it's a lie. Each and everyone of us have an assignment, purpose and people who are waiting for us to tell our story. Going home after all is done is the best time to depart.

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Religion / Re: See How This Equation And Analogy Prove The Idea Of The Trinity Wrong by SisterSister(f): 4:48am On Nov 04, 2015
Pr0ton:


When people are referred to by name they are referred in whole. Just as it's wrong in logic and reality to call a proton an atom so also it's empty to call Paul's hand Paul. You don't separately call his hand by his name, you call his whole being, which may include your body, mind and soul, by his name, Paul.

Paul's spirit can't be called Paul separately, but the spirit of Paul. While Paul as a person can possess a kind of spirit that has a name, the spirit is never Paul as a person, but one of the whole constituent of Paul; body, mind and spirit.

When Paul's body possesses another spirit he ceases to be Paul as a person logically and in reality. He then becomes the person of that spirit.

Let's take Paul of the Bible as example. In one of his letters, in the last verses of Galatians 2, he says if the spirit of Christ lives in him then it's no longer him that lives but Christ living in his body, so that logically and in reality he becomes righteous (as Christ is) before God.

Where then is Paul's spirit? The answer is found in a verse in Col 3 where he says 'our life is hidden in Christ in heaven'.

Paul's person in his body is no longer Paul but Jesus, and that's why he is justified before God. Paul technically ceases to exist when his spirit is staying separately, but comes into existence when it possesses a body, at least in our world.

Here is the point... for a person to exist and be referred to as a person it NECESSARILY needs a body, mind and spirit. AND ONE OF THESE COMPONENT CAN NOT EXIST SEPARATELY AND STILL RETAIN THE QUALITIES OF A PERSON. For example, THE MIND CEASES TO EXIST WITHOUT A BODY. A SPIRIT IS NOT A PERSON WITHOUT A BEING/BODY. A BODY IS USELESS WITHOUT A SPIRIT AND MIND.

This explanation therefore proves the anology of a person's body, spirit and mind inconsistent with the nature of the Trinity. The three Godheads are said to be able to exists alone and still retain the qualities of a God, consequently making them three separated Gods. It doesn't follow the equation of a person, i.e

Person = body + spirit + soul

but

GOD = Yahwew = Jesus = Holy Spirit

where every entity is a God.. hence when they stay separate they become Gods

I appreciate all you shared but the analogy of mind, body and spirit is just a glimpse, it is not exhaustive in any way. Even with your great detail; it doesn’t even come close to the nature of God or the trinity, nor does mine for that matter. There is so much more involved that cannot be expressed in mere words. This is why one has to be alive spiritually.

As I shared in a previous response, we are made in the image of God but God is not made in the image of man.

Regarding, Galatians 2 and Colossians 3….those are good questions but it is not as you laid it out.

[color=#990000]“So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God. 9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his”. Romans 8:8-9


I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me. 21 I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain. Galatians 2:20-21

For ye are dead, and your life is hid with Christ in God. 4 When Christ, who is our life, shall appear, then shall ye also appear with him in glory.
Colossians 3:3-4


It really helps me alot to read the verse before and after; if possible, the whole chapter to keep what is read in context. Without God’s revelation one will end in error. Taking one part of the scripture and ignoring another one will end in error.

Your point is very correct when it applies to man and human nature, but it does not apply to God. The nature of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit is God.

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Religion / Re: See How This Equation And Analogy Prove The Idea Of The Trinity Wrong by SisterSister(f): 3:02am On Nov 04, 2015
Jessicha:


Defending your faith doesnt mean you should forget basic english sister .

@ underlined , how dare you use the word "Only" that refer to single , sole person to describe three persons ?


My sister the "only" was added for emphasis. Don't let it bother you and good catch smiley
Religion / Re: See How This Equation And Analogy Prove The Idea Of The Trinity Wrong by SisterSister(f): 2:49am On Nov 04, 2015
Jessicha:


You are complicating things for yourself .

If image of God means mind + body + spirit , then God is one person .

God has a mind [1Cor 2:16]

God have a spiritual body [1Cor 15:40,44]

God have spirit [gen 6:3]

Your analogy then proves God is one person , or you are totally using the wrong illustration.

Note : the trinity claim the spirit of God is a totally different person . Which is proved false by your human analogy , is our spirit a different person ? No . God said " My spirit" Genesis 6:3 , Which Proves its not a separate person just like in humans , who re his image .


I am not complicating myself. It is not about me at all, it's about God and what He has revealed about Himself in the Bible. I am still learning and I am only trying to share in a way that might help clear up some few questions.

What I shared previously is that "we" are made in the image of God. God is not made in the image of man. The mind, body and spirit analogy is a way to sort of illustrate that three can be one in ways we do not fully grasp.

The scriptures you shared are much clearer in full context:
1 Corinthians 2:15-16 But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man. 16 For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? but we have the mind of Christ.
1 Corinthians 15:39-40 All flesh is not the same flesh: but there is one kind of flesh of men, another flesh of beasts, another of fishes, and another of birds. 40 There are also celestial bodies, and bodies terrestrial: but the glory of the celestial is one, and the glory of the terrestrial is another. 1 Corinthians 15:43-44 It is sown in dishonour; it is raised in glory: it is sown in weakness; it is raised in power: 44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.
Genesis 6:2-3 That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose. 3 And the Lord said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.

To say the trinity claims God's Spirit is a totally separate person is not correct. God is not a person, God is spirit. Although, Jesus did wear humanity, He was always divinely God.
Religion / Re: See How This Equation And Analogy Prove The Idea Of The Trinity Wrong by SisterSister(f): 12:39am On Nov 04, 2015
Pr0ton:


And one accepts spiritual life through reading the Bible, right? And you also said only those with spiritual eyes can read the Bible... this is still sensible.

No, one accepts spiritual life by accepting Jesus Christ. Reading the Bible helps one grow and mature spiritually. (There is more to this)
A person can read the Bible, even if they have not accepted Jesus Christ, it's beneficial. And, we all began this way. I said previously that those who are not spiritually alive will not understand spiritual things. I am not the one that said it in the first place, God says it.

"Now the natural man does not receive the things from the Spirit of God — to him they are nonsense! Moreover, he is unable to grasp them, because they are evaluated through the Spirit." 1 Corinthians 2:14 Complete Jewish Bible (CJB)
Religion / Re: See How This Equation And Analogy Prove The Idea Of The Trinity Wrong by SisterSister(f): 2:32am On Nov 03, 2015
Pr0ton:


Now this sounds sensible..

An all-knowing God wrote down the ways/steps to salvation in a book... and then allows only those with spiritual eyes the ability to see and get saved... and these people with spiritual eyes are the Christians...


logically, in that way, none can be saved, and there are no Christians in reality.

Just see how sensible you post is.

Let's say you had mighty weapons to pass on, would you give them to someone you could trust to use them properly or would you give them to someone who would abuse and misuse them?

Yes, Almighty God gave us the way to salvation and it is free to everyone who wants and accepts it. Each of us has to choose whether or not to accept spiritual life that comes through accepting Jesus Christ. (There is more to this) After accepting Jesus, one then becomes a Christian, a follower of Jesus Christ.

A problem is without spiritual life, a person would naturally abuse and misuse so much meant for good against their neighbor to destroy.
Religion / Re: See How This Equation And Analogy Prove The Idea Of The Trinity Wrong by SisterSister(f): 2:02am On Nov 03, 2015
How about looking at it like this?

Christians believe humans are made in the image of God. The one God is the Father, Son and Holy Spirit.

Mind, body and spirit = one person

Our mind is every much a part of us but is separate
Our body is a part of us but separate
Our spirit is a part of us but separate

Yet, still we are only one person

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Religion / Re: See How This Equation And Analogy Prove The Idea Of The Trinity Wrong by SisterSister(f): 1:47am On Nov 03, 2015
Rilwayne001:


sad sad You obviously, was unable to decode my illustration.
Okay, let me give you another one.


[img]http://manyprophetsonemessage.files./2014/11/doctrine-trinity.png[/img]

What ya say? smiley

I missed it totally...for some reason the first illustration didn't copy??

***The Messiah by nature is God
Elijah and the prophet by nature are human
The Messiah, Elijah and the prophet is not one human.
The Messiah, Elijah and the prophet are not three humans. Only Elijah and the prophet are human. The Messiah is God who took on humanity.

***The Heavenly Father by nature is God
Jesus the Son is by nature God
The Holy Spirit by nature is God
The Father, Son and the Holy Spirit is one God only
The Father, Son and the Holy Spirit are not three gods

Religion / Re: 18 Attributes Of Highly Effective Liars. by SisterSister(f): 11:23pm On Nov 02, 2015
Is it a game of manipulation and doesn't this type of lying tie into narcissistic traits?

Some narcissist traits are:

Manipulation
Charismatic
Charming
Controlling
Conceited
Inflated self-perception
Creates drama/over dramatic
Likes to be in the spotlight
Exaggerates their achievements
Requires constant admiration
Takes advantage of others
Compulsive liar
Cannot deal with criticism
Gets hurt easily
Extremely jealous
Appear strong on the surface
Desire for power
Difficulty understanding other people’s emotions
Lack empathy
Need control
Needy Behaviour
Centre of attention
Inauthentic
Highly Dominant
Attention seeking

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Religion / Re: Should Catholic Tradition Have Equal Or Greater Authority Than The Bible? by SisterSister(f): 10:09pm On Nov 02, 2015
5solas:
@Olaadegbu
Great post, as ever.
I pray the eyes of those who just can't see the sufficiency of the scriptures (in all matters of faith) will be opened by this post, in Jesus' name, amen.

Amen

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Religion / Re: I will kill myself after this last attempt to survive by SisterSister(f): 9:59pm On Nov 02, 2015
It is my prayer that you have reached out your hands and grabbed a hold of hope again in Jesus name!

Spirit of poverty we stand together with our brother and bind you in Jesus name. In accordance with the word of Jehovah God and agreement with him, we cast you away from every area of his life in Jesus mighty name. We command you GO NOW where Jesus sends you and remain there until it's time for you to receive your portion in the lake of fire in the name, power and authority of Jesus Christ, amen!!!

Hope opens doors and windows of opportunities and in a moment, everything can change.

We all are standing in the gap for you, fight for your life in Jesus name!!!

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Religion / Re: Who Is Sitting On Your File. by SisterSister(f): 9:36pm On Nov 02, 2015
Goshen360:
The prayer of Paul, an Apostle of Christ is, that their eyes of understanding be open so that the will know their inheritance in Christ.

These people are those who are in Christ, who Christ himself died for. They do not operate under a closed heaven since Christ was received into heaven. There's has never been a satanic agent obstructing the flow of Christ to her church because these satanic agents are already defeated and these people who Christ died for are sitted in heavenly place with Christ.

This is true...
Religion / Re: See How This Equation And Analogy Prove The Idea Of The Trinity Wrong by SisterSister(f): 9:28pm On Nov 02, 2015
Rilwayne001:
This should sum it up. ..,


This is a very good illustration.

I would like to add, it takes spiritual eyes to see spiritual things. If one is spiritually dead, there is no way to gain proper understanding regarding the trinity.

Once one accepts spiritual life through Jesus Christ, then they will be able to see spiritually.
Religion / Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by SisterSister(f): 9:08pm On Nov 02, 2015
CharlyG1:
Hello Friends,
I wish to share an experience on the importance of prayer at night. While you sleep God really saves us from harm. But how would I know God saves me while i sleep at night.

Well, HE SHOWED ME HOW THIS PARTICULAR NIGHT.. Listen..

I was just about 12/13yrs old then. I usually slept on the same bed with my elder sister back then.
One very night, I was too tired I forgot to pray.
I was sleeping close to the wall, this was about 4am. I was half asleep & half awake when I saw somthing like lightning from heaven rushing down to the ground. Then a loud voice said.. Here comes Angel Michael, the Archangel......'

All of a sudden I heard a loud thud on the bed!
I turned away from the wall to see what it was behind me. It was a dead rotten corpse, it looked like a woman or demonic spirit, it was black and looked burnt.
I felt too sleepy, so I ignored it and turned back to sleep again.
But I heard another thud on the bed. This time it looked like a man, looked burnt, ugly, black just like the first one. I ignored it again. I felt too sleepy.

The I heard the last thud again as the bed shook. I was confused. It was another spirit/demon again lying in the same state like the other two.

Then I looked across the room & met the gaze of a very handsome Angel. He had a sword drawn in his hand and there was blood stain on the sword. He had golden hair, like a blonde. He was wingless. He was just dressed in a white shining robe, his face smooth and shining, with a blood stained sword stretched out in his hand. He looked young, like 26yrs old.

Then He said what I'll never forget till the day I die.

He said 'BEHOLD, YOU HAVE OVERCOME THEM'!


Very interesting

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Religion / Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by SisterSister(f): 8:59pm On Nov 02, 2015
CharlyG1:
My Dear Friends,

This is a serious warning. If you have a gift, it's either it comes from God or satan. But all power belongs to God. If your gift is of God it will be made known to you and people around you.

Involving science with your gift will lead you to a false path. The devil is smart and he wants you to think you're a superman or superwoman with a very special ability which will lead you into learning Psychic, Chantings, Soul travel and all forbidden knowledge known.
This is taught by satan, not God. I was almost decieved once.

* Do not read books like Law of Attraction..
* Do not practice yoga
* Do not go into fantasy thinking.
* Do not attempt mind reading.
* Do not attempt soul travel.

This is just repackaged witchcraft.
I will post a youtube video soon for better understanding.
Your spiritual gift is for a purpose and the purpose isn't really because of you but more importantly for people around you.
Never practice or involve science with your gift. It will open you up for demon possession. It opens up a forbidden passage in your soul which makes it easier for demons to enter.

I pray the Lord directs you all in Jesus' Name.. Amen

Amen and amen![color=#000099][/color]

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Travel / Re: The Disadvantages Of Obodo Oyibo Aka Abroad by SisterSister(f): 8:11pm On Nov 02, 2015
Very nice...you have covered it all!
Culture / Re: The Culture Lounge by SisterSister(f): 9:23pm On Apr 08, 2015
I have a question...

what are somethings one can say upon meeting an Igbo Chief/Ezeigbo? I only know a few things to say, suggestions please?
Culture / Re: Nigerian Man Married To African-American Wife - The Wrap Up by SisterSister(f): 6:10am On Jul 16, 2013
yorubaamerican: And vice-versa. I see you've done your bid... bravo!!


Thank you yorubaamerican. The quote you shared is a good one. We African-Americans should want to know where we come from..it is very important.
Culture / Re: Complaints And Notice Thread. Be Serious! by SisterSister(f): 5:40pm On Jul 04, 2013
odumchi:

No problem.



Thanks moderator...but I tried it again and I was able to combine some.

Does this work....?
Nigerian Man Married to Non-Nigerian Wife - Reloaded; And the other thread is
Nigerian Man Married to African-American Wife - The Wrap Up

Also under Culture, would you hide my two threads with the subject: Thank you and Thank you again.

Culture / Re: Nigerian Man Married To African-American Wife - The Wrap Up by SisterSister(f): 5:31pm On Jul 04, 2013
[b]Thank you @Mrs. Chima, desirel and chillisauce.

I had to combine the threads and may have to one more time. I've been online before researching for hours something I needed to know. It is a long post on this topic but on the otherhand it's not long enough smiley [/b]
Culture / Re: Nigerian Man Married To Non-nigerian Wife - Reloaded by SisterSister(f): 4:50pm On Jul 04, 2013
desirel: hei Sister


i agree with everything you mention above. it's sad that you can see this in the church too; nigerian women being rude to you only because you are not nigerian. i don't understand why all the time they make such a big issue about their culture, when you see that this culture doesn't help them to grow and be a better person or to have more succes. and they have double mesures: they can complain against their cultural things, but the moment you say the same thing they give you the evil eye. i was really shocked at the beginning, now i'm imune; i just ignore them and laugh when the bring all the cultural bull****.

[b]
Thank you my sister desirel.
Like you, it was too shocking to me also at first. I agree with what you said and your end resolve ...we have to try but if they don't hear, let it roll. Anyone who chooses to keep up nonsense in the church, its them and God. [/b]
Culture / Re: Complaints And Notice Thread. Be Serious! by SisterSister(f): 8:02pm On Jun 29, 2013
SisterSister:

Your the only active moderator...I didn't know. I will work on making it just one thread...thank you[b]


Dear Moderator,

I tried to cut and paste it to make one thread but I get a message that it is too long? Is it possible for you to please put it together in one thread, in 1, 2, 3 order? [b][quote author=SisterSister]
Culture / Re: Complaints And Notice Thread. Be Serious! by SisterSister(f): 7:50pm On Jun 27, 2013
odumchi:

Please, do not listen to anyone claiming to be the moderator. I am the only active moderator of this section.

As for your thread, I have unlocked it. However, you can't make three separate threads about the same topic. I suggest you copy and paste everything onto one thread, so that I can close the other two. I'll give you a few days to do this.

Your the only active moderator...I didn't know. I will work on making it just one thread...thank you[b]

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