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surah 2:76 When they meet the believers they say, “We believe.” But in private they say ˹to each other˺, “Will you disclose to the believers the knowledge Allah has revealed to you,1 so that they may use it against you before your Lord? Do you not understand?”

Isn't this some sort of cultists encounter? What knowledge should we be hiding from people? The God of the Bible advises you to proclaim his knowledge and not to hold it in. In fact, Jesus taught that we should give free cos' we received it for free.

In Islam, it is all about secrecy and confidentiality so that someone else will not know. Imagine using the knowledge that God has given you against you before God? The Bible says the opposite, that if you do not tell it, you are complacent. Tell the evil man his ways so that he can change. Here we have Islam asking you to conceal it. This is why if you ask an average muslim details regarding islam, he is always lost or he will look for a mullah to help him explain it.


surah 2:234 As for those of you who die and leave widows behind, let them observe a waiting period of four months and ten days. When they have reached the end of this period, then you are not to blame for what they decide for themselves in a reasonable manner. And Allah is All-Aware of what you do.

So dead man can be blamed after they die if their wives do not mourn them before remarrying. You can blame the dead man in Islam.




To say in the interpretation of the Almighty’s saying: And that He died and made alive (44)
God Almighty says: And that He put to death those of His creation who died, and He brought those alive from among them to life. By saying (to live) he meant the breath of the soul into the dead sperm, so he made it alive by making the soul in it.

To say about the interpretation of the Almighty’s saying: And that He created the two pairs, male and female (45)
And His saying (and that He created the two pairs, the male and the female) from a sperm, if he desired. God Almighty says: And He created the two pairs, the male and the female, and made them into pairs, because the male is the husband of the female, and each of them has a pair, and the female is a pair for him.

And his saying (from a sperm if it wishes) and “from” from the connection of creation. God Almighty says: He created that from a sperm if the man and the woman made him secure.

And his saying (and that he has another upbringing) the Almighty says: And it is upon your Lord, O Muhammad, to create these two spouses after their death, and to bring them back to life with a new creation, as they were before their death, in their graves.

And that he destroyed the first (50)
And His saying: (And He destroyed Aad the first) means, the Almighty mentioned the first Baad: Aad bin Iram bin Aws bin Sam bin Noah, and they are the ones whom God destroyed with a fierce shriek wind, and them from Me by saying, “Have you not seen how He did so? Most of the readers of Medina and some of the reciters of Basra “return to the wali” by leaving the hamz and the jazm nun until the lam became in the first, as if it was a burdened lam, and the Arabs do that in something like this.
It is as if she is a burdened mother, and the Arabs do that in something like this, it was narrated from her hearing from them: “Get up, because we are.” He wants: Stand up now. Assert the meem when the mother moved with a thousand at the present time, and she also says: Deaf two, they want: Deaf both. As for the majority of the readers of Kufa and some of the Meccans, they read it by showing the nun and breaking it, and the first was a difference in that from Al-A’mash, and his companions narrated from him other than Al-Qasim bin Maan, agreeing with the people of his country in that. As for Al-Qasim bin Maan, it was narrated from him on the authority of Al-A’mash that he agreed in his recitation of that the correct reading in that we have is what we mentioned of reciting the Kufic, because that is the eloquent of the speech of the Arabs, and that the reading of those who were from the people of the Saliqah is on eloquence and exaltation, and that immersion in such a letter and leaving the statement is only expanded in it for those whose nature and nature of the people of the deserts . As for the born-again, their ruling is to investigate the most eloquent, sweetest and most reliable readings, even if the other readings are permissible and cannot be rejected.
The other is a non-refundable prize.
Rather, it was said to Aad bin Iram: Aad is the first, because Bani Luqaim bin Hazal bin Hazal bin Obeel bin Dad bin Ad bin Aad Al-Akbar, they were the days when God sent the greatest torment on Ad the Great, a population of Mecca with their brothers from the giants, Amalek bin Laudh bin Sam bin Noah was born, and they were not With their people, who returned to their land, did not afflict them from the torment what befell their people, and they returned to the Hereafter, then they perished after.
The destruction of 'Ad in the Hereafter was the oppression of some of them against each other, so they dedicated themselves to killing, as Ibn Humaid told us, he said: Salamah narrated to us on the authority of Ibn Ishaq, in what we mentioned it was said to Ad al-Akbar, whose offspring God destroyed by the wind: 'Aad was the first, because it was destroyed before the return of the Hereafter. Ibn Zayd used to say: It was said to the first Ad, because it was the first of nations to perish.
Yunus told me, he said: Ibn Wahb told us, he said Ibn Zayd, in his saying: (Destroy the first ones) He said: It is said: It is one of the first nations.

If I answer you, will you revert to christianity or will you call allah they and agree that he is polytheist?

haekymbahd:
Jesus look up to heaven to call upon who is it himself thanks for spreading Islam to the world so it was still Allah who heard his prayer during resurrection.

No wonder Jesus your god said I can by myself do nothing...

1. Answer this is Jesus ALMIGHTY God and give your reason or show where Jesus claimed this?


It could be there is a difference between a god and Almighty God which of the 2 is Jesus

Nigerians please judge this case betwen me and muslims. Muslims asked me to read the Qur'an and revert. They took me to their masjid. Their mullah taught me many sophisticated lies about Islam.

Now, I am posting the quran, not another book and they accuse me of being pious and despising others.

Should I not post the quran? Guess what! If I had been posting other verses of the quran, I would have made constant frontpage features.

How am I proud for revealing the truth and despising lies?

surah 2:87 Indeed, We gave Moses the Book and sent after him successive messengers. And We gave Jesus, son of Mary, clear proofs and supported him with the holy spirit. Why is it that every time a messenger comes to you ˹Israelites˺ with something you do not like, you become arrogant, rejecting some and killing others?

Often, you hear Nigerian Muslims insulting the Holy spirit. Unbeknownst to them, it is part of their doctrine. The Quran attests to the miraculous birth of Christ While some Muslims go on denying the Christ. They do not read their quran. They know nothing in it. they are always shocked when I show them. Rather than submitting to the quran, they tweak it. Which means they are more powerful that their quran and they have utter disrespect for it. This is why Arab do not consider them real muslims. They do not understand the words in Arabic. they do not read and meditate, they only recite it as a poem.

surah 21:91 And ˹remember˺ the one who guarded her vagina, so We blew into her our spirit, making her and her son a sign for the worlds.

From the two surahs above, you can see that allah uses "I" and "we" interchangeably to prove to you that he is polytheist. Notwithstanding, You can clearly see that allah could stoop as low as blowing his spirit into a woman's vagina rather than by providential outworking as the Bible states.

This is not a hate speech. I showing you the quran that you do not read. Thank me for it. This is the truth that your mullahs are concealing from you. That antichristian guy has suddenly ran away. he has been attacking christians for a years rather than taking same time to read his quran.

surah 2:73 So We instructed, “Strike the dead body with a piece of the cow.” This is how ˹easily˺ Allah brings the dead to life, showing you His signs so that you may understand.

This is how allah performs resurrection.

John 11:41 So they rolled the stone aside. Then Jesus looked up to heaven and said, “Father, thank you for hearing me. John 11:43 When he had said this, Jesus called in a loud voice, “Lazarus, come out!”


As a human, in which of these two ways would you love to be resurrected, by STRIKING your dead body with red bloodied cow meat or by respectfully calling YOUR NAME and have you majestically walk back to life?

ecolime:
I disagree.

The Asians took their destiny in their hands and have started competing with the colonizers.

Our grandfathers complained, our fathers complained, we are complaining and our children might complain in future.

We Africans should stop this victim mentality. It's irritating.

Are you talking to the offsprings of Ghadaffi? is your sentiment on Charles Taylor? Are you referring to countries that are forced to bend to a certain rule if not they are sanctioned? Why was president Goodluck unable to purchase arms from the US?

Bro, a man goes no further that the length of arm crunching his scrotum. Stop being naïve. Asians are overpopulated and in such number, little control can be effected. How many countries in Asia actually moved past it in the 48? Indians are still complaining. It is not all fair in India now Sir. Go there and see the level of poverty too. China thrives in socialism

Asians were not enslaved the way we were. Africans were utterly destabilized.

The man clamoring for moving past the victim mentality, look through his profile, he is the biggest complainer against marginalization?

My eyes were all over the horrid background. See the giant of Africa. very dirty and ghetto.

timothydare:
I noticed 99% of ladies who wear Polo always FLIP it up and allow it hang on their waist.

My question:

Why do ladies like to Flip their polo and allow it hang on their waist?

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Surah 18:60 And ˹remember˺ when Moses said to his young assistant, “I will never give up until I reach the junction of the two seas, even if I travel for ages.”

Where are these seas located?

surah 2:67 “Allah commands you to sacrifice a cow Surah 2:69 It should be a bright yellow cow

allah's choice of sacrificial cow is top-notch. A bright yellow cow. So, all those killing cows in Nigeria are wasting their time cos they are not bright yellow cows.




وبنحو الذي قلنا في ذلك قال أهل التأويل.
* ذكر من قال ذلك:
حدثني محمد بن سعد, قال: ثني أبي, قال: ثني عمي, قال: ثني أبي, عن أبيه, عن ابن عباس, قوله ( وَأَنَّهُ هُوَ رَبُّ الشِّعْرَى ) قال: هو الكوكب الذي يدعى الشعرى.
حدثني عليّ بن سهل, قال: ثنا مؤمل, قال: ثنا سفيان, عن خصيف, عن مجاهد, في قوله: ( وَأَنَّهُ هُوَ رَبُّ الشِّعْرَى ) قال: الكوكب الذي خَلْف الجوزاء, كانوا يعبدونه.
حدثنا ابن حُميد, قال: ثنا مهران, عن سفيان, عن منصور, عن مجاهد: ( وَأَنَّهُ هُوَ رَبُّ الشِّعْرَى ) قال: كان يُعبد في الجاهلية.

* Mentioned who said that:
Muhammad bin Saad told me, he said: dissuade my father, he said: dissuade my uncle, he said: dissuade my father, on the authority of his father, on the authority of Ibn Abbas, his saying (and he is the Lord of al-Shi’ari) he said: He is the star called al-Shi’ari.
Ali bin Sahl told me, he said: We were told by Mu’amil, he said: We were told by Sufyan, on the authority of Khaseef, on the authority of Mujahid, in his saying: (And he is the Lord of Shi’a) he said: The star behind Gemini, they used to worship him.
We were told by Ibn Humaid, he said: We were told by Mahran, on the authority of Sufyan, on the authority of Mansur, on the authority of Mujahid: (And he is the Lord of poetry) He said: He was worshiped in the pre-Islamic era.

حدثنا محمد بن عمرو, قال: ثنا أبو عاصم, قال: ثنا عيسى; وحدثني الحارث, قال: ثنا الحسن, قال: ثنا ورقاء جميعا, عن ابن أبي نجيح, عن مجاهد, قوله ( رَبُّ الشِّعْرَى ) قال: مرزم الجوزاء.
حدثنا بشر, قال: ثنا يزيد, قال: ثنا سعيد, عن قتادة, قوله ( وَأَنَّهُ هُوَ رَبُّ الشِّعْرَى ) كان حيّ من العرب يعبدون الشِّعْرَى هذا النجم الذي رأيتم, قال بشر, قال: يريد النجم الذي يتبع الجوزاء.


Muhammad bin Amr told us, he said: Tell us Abu Asim, he said: Tell us Jesus; And Al-Harith told me, he said: Al-Hassan narrated, he said: Tell us all of them, on the authority of Ibn Abi Najih, on the authority of Mujahid, his saying (Lord of the hair) he said: Marzam Al-Jawza.
Bishr told us, he said: told us Yazid, he said: told us Saeed, on the authority of Qatada, his saying (and that he is the Lord of Sirius) was alive among the Arabs who worshiped Sirius, this star that you saw, Bishr said, he said: He wants the star that follows Gemini.
حدثنا ابن عبد الأعلى, قال ثنا ابن ثور, عن معمر, عن قتادة, في قوله ( رَبُّ الشِّعْرَى ) قال: كان ناس في الجاهلية يعبدون هذا النجم الذي الذي يُقال له الشِّعْرَى.
حدثني يونس, قال: أخبرنا ابن وهب, قال: قال ابن زيد, في قوله ( وَأَنَّهُ هُوَ رَبُّ الشِّعْرَى ) كانت تُعبد في الجاهلية, فقال: تعبدون هذه وتتركون ربها؟ اعبدوا ربها. قال: والشِّعْرَى: النجم الوقاد الذي يتبع الجوزاء, يقال له المرزم.

Ibn Abd al-Ala told us, Ibn Thawr said to us, on the authority of Muammar, on the authority of Qatada, in his saying (the Lord of al-Shi`ari) he said: People in the pre-Islamic era used to worship this star that is called al-Shi`ari.
Yunus told me, he said: Ibn Wahb told us, he said: Ibn Zayd said, in his saying (and that he is the Lord of poetry) she was worshiped in the pre-Islamic era, so he said: Do you worship this and forsake its Lord? Worship her God. He said: And Al-Shi’ari: the guiding star that follows Gemini, it is called Al-Marzam.

haekymbahd:
When God addressed himself as us in the Jewish holy book did the Jews address him as them or they.

Are they now the gold standard for muslims? The same Tanakh that you claim to have been corrupted is what you build your defense on. Had mohamedd not massacred the Jews, I'd have had the opportunity to verify from them.
But, I will answer you. God from the early told man that he was not alone. Moses wrote that. God was not referred to as they because he did not refer to himself as they. The Bible said that Jesus was with him and whenever he said us, we can categorically say they in that regard because he was including his son, Jesus who is in union with him in his speech. So, can we now use they to refer to allah when he said THEY CREATED MAN?

haekymbahd:
Was God reffered to as they or them in any verse in the Jewish tanakh. Go and ask the Jews this same question then come back later to ask Muslims.

Do you now believe in the Tanakh? Why do you always assert its authority in your defense. I am presenting the quran to you and you just dont want to consider it but reaching out to the rejected Tanakh. If the Tanakh is correct, why write the quran? Your account of creation does not reconcile with what's written in the Tanakh. How do you resolve that? Would you, as a muslims call allah THEY?

haekymbahd:
Mention anyone in the bible who addressed God as they or them despite God using the word "us" to refer to himself?

He never used the word "us" to refer to himself. Stop acting like you are blind to the fact that he has a son. He boldly proclaimed that he has a son, Jesus who is by his side and he reveals his truth to him. He has the right to use "us" in that regard because he has someone who is in union with him and he talks to about his plan. Does allah in turn have a son for which he had to use "we"? I can say God and Jesus saved my life. They have been faithful to me. Can I say that allah and Al-Uzza have been faithful to you?

haekymbahd:
1. kindly explain what "Royal We or pluralis majestatis" means and how it is being used and who are those who use it?

pluralis majestatis rolls back only as far as Latin and has no link to Arabic because Arabs are proud people and will never share their glory with anyone. You did not explain anything, Sir. You were only seeking to derail your intuition because pluralis majestatis refers to PERSONS not God. In all contexts for which it was used in the past dating from the Latin dominated era, it was used by monarch, bishop, or pope. Is allah now a pope? is allah a bishop? is allah a monarch someone in arabia? tell me, cos' from your pluralis majestatis argument we can trickle allah down to a human being CREATED by someone else.

haekymbahd:
2. Define Nosism?

The royal we or pluralis majestatis refers to a single person holding a high office, such as a monarch, bishop, or pope.

How does allah fit in the above contexts? We are surely getting down to the obvious that mohammed is that allah. Do you want further definition on why allah should not be categorized in this context? It is demeaning.

Now that I have answered your questions, is it now safe to refer to allah as they? say on it record.

haekymbahd:
Why are you hiding from answering those questions you are not worth taking serious you are such a joke and I'm sure lots of people have seen this in you...

When allah addressed himself as we, are we allowed to address him as they?

when allah addressed himself as us, are we allowed to address him as them?

Good that you are digging deep in the scriptures now to authenticate your quran just as mohammed commanded you to ask the christians. As a Christian, let me teach you haha. God was talking to Jesus in those contexts. Jesus is at the right hand side of God. The Bible said that all thing was made THROUGH Jesus and Jesus work with the father. The Bible also says that they are in union, meaning that they work with a common objective. In the Bible, Jesus said that God taught him, Jesus everything that he does and say. He loves his father and his father loves him.

So, who was allah talking to?

Does allah also have a son?

When allah said we, does that overule when he said that he was alone?

When allah said us, does that insinuate that he has a son with al uzza that he hides away from muslims?

wolesmile:
Gen. 1:26, “Then God said, ‘Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness; and let them rule over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the sky and over the cattle and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth."


Gen. 3:22, “Then the Lord God said, ‘Behold, the man has become like one of Us, knowing good and evil; and now, lest he stretch out his hand, and take also from the tree of life, and eat, and live forever."


Gen. 11:7, “Come, let Us go down and there confuse their language, that they may not understand one another’s speech.”


Gen. 19:24, “Then the Lord rained on Sodom and Gomorrah brimstone and fire from the Lord out of heaven.” (Which Lord rained brimstone and fire from which Lord? )


Isaiah 6:8, “Then I heard the voice of the Lord, saying, ‘Whom shall I send, and who will go for Us?” Then I said, “Here am I. Send me!"

Your fallacy is bullcrap. Sir, we are talking about the quran that is supposedly noble and holy. Something holy can stand on its own cos it has divine backing. What you have is really a spiral argument that spurts no fluid. The case in time now is the quran. Dragging elohim, majestatis, and nosism into this is utterly outré.

This shows missing substance in you and lack of coherence which results from feeble knowledge on the issue, and the inability to sustain preliminary level of cogitation in basic reasoning.

I will ask you again: regardless of what other people believe, do you accept that I can sequentially refer to allah as they since he referred to himself as we and us?

haekymbahd:
1. kindly explain what "Royal We or pluralis majestatis" means and how it is being used and who are those who use it?

2. Why does Elohim (plural) still refer to a single God?

3. Define Nosism?

budaatum:
Have you seen how ignorant people have been humbled by those who read the Book?
They tend to do what they understand. But perhaps you haven't read it yet so I'll post it so you can.

So, when allah referred to himself as WE and US did he lie or was he being deceitful?
Surah 56 vs 57 We have created you, then why would you not confirm it? (why do Muslims find it hard to confirm it for them?)

surah 56:61 Had We so wished, nothing could have hindered Us from replacing you by others like yourselves, or transforming you into beings you know nothing about.


Now, look closely again: surah 56:61 Had We so wished, nothing could have hindered Us from replacing you by others like yourselves, or transforming you into beings you know nothing about.

Do you now see that allah makes wishes?
hahahahahahaha

haekymbahd:
Allah mentioned it severally that he is one and has no partner....

Allah SWT said:

"No partner has He. And this I have been commanded, and I am the first [among you] of the Muslims."
(QS. Al-An'aam 6: Verse 163)

So, when allah referred to himself as WE and US did he lie or was he being deceitful?

I do not want to go into the first of all Muslims yet. Let us settle the above first.

perez100:
The Tinubu urchins are still spreading propaganda that Ironsi introduced unitary government. When Ironsi was killed we still had regional Governors (Military In charge). Ojukwu in the East, Adekunle Fajuyi in the West, Hassan in the north and David Ejoor in Midwest.

It was Gowon that scrapped it.

The moderators have showns how biased they are towards others candidates too.

advocatejare:
Nigerian and African Muslims are the most brainwashed group of people ever.

>>> They are raised to believe that Arabic name is better than their tribal names. They rank their Arabic name higher than their tribal names

>>> They are raised to believe that Arab language is better than their cultural languages

>>> They are raised to believe that God accepts worship in Arabic language and not in their local dialects

>>> They are raised to believe that dressing like an Arab is better than their cultural dressing.

>>> They are raised to believe that Arab wedding is better than their cultural wedding.

>>> They are raised to believe that Arab funeral rites is better than their cultural funeral rites.

>>> They are raised to believe that calling God Allah is better than calling him by the local name.

>>> They are raised to believe that Arab culture is their culture.

Preach
https://youtube.com/shorts/PGWn5jb62q0?feature=share

budaatum:
You do not need authority to do whatever you want. If Allah don't like it Allah would let you know.

Same for Yahweh. Though both would like you to apply the sense you must have been given.

Thank you, Sir. I do not want sense in Islam, I want submission. Do not come to preacg sense to me and do not try to hush me. Focus on the quran.

surah 56:66 We have been penalized.

By who?

Did you notice that allah is a polytheistic god "we"?

Surah 56 vs 57 It is We Who created you. Will you not then believe ˹in resurrection˺?
Surah 56 vs 57 We have created you, then why would you not confirm it? (why do Muslims find it hard to confirm it for them?)

Surah 56:64 Is it you or We Who make them grow?

surah 56:61 Had We so wished, nothing could have hindered Us from replacing you by others like yourselves, or transforming you into beings you know nothing about.

surah 56:64 Is it you or We Who make them grow?

surah 56:60 It is We Who ordained death upon you and We are not to be frustrated.

surah 56:72 Did you make its tree grow or was it We Who made it grow?

Since the creator of man is WE, and he described himself as CreatorS in the noble quran, is it now safe to refer to Allah as THEY? Recall that he asked Muslims to CONFIRM IT. Do you confirm it?

surah 56:59 Do you create a child out of it, or are We its creator[b]s[/b]?

So, "they", Allah, the creatorS, create children out of emitted sperm.

Is this true?

budaatum:
No, I don't agree Allah is polytheistic, and I'm not discrediting the Holy Bible. I'm pointing out the stupidity of your argument and discrediting it.

It's like claiming Yahweh is polytheistic because there's Father, Son and Holy Spirit.

And the Bible is not the Word of God until you make it the Word of God through your Godly actions.

Can you see how the quran gets humbled by me? And, I am not and academia. Travel and see how they have shredded the quran to pieces. Even your clerics cannot handle the heat. Go and ask shabir Ally what his eyes have seen

bobbybrown007:
Hmmmm, why burn what you think it is? Why is it hard for them to admit that that are more to what the eyes can see.

They can never. They have been boasting about this Islam for so long. They have been insulting Christians and acting like they are the best of all.

Many of them are shocked to see what is written in their quran. They are accustomed to the traditional way of exposing their sophistry. Now, watch them hide in shame or try to tweak their own holy and noble quran. They will twist the life out of quran now.

budaatum:
No, I don't agree Allah is polytheistic, and I'm not discrediting the Holy Bible. I'm pointing out the stupidity of your argument and discrediting it.

It's like claiming Yahweh is polytheistic because there's Father, Son and Holy Spirit.

And the Bible is not the Word of God until you make it the Word of God through your Godly actions.

Okay Sir! I got you.

Now, am I authorised to refer to allah as they?

haekymbahd:
The verse quoted was from the holy book of the Jews not christian and no Jew beleive that God exist as trinty.

The Jews considers you christians (Trinitarians) as infidels, they also beleive and know christians have corrupted the tanakh...

Then God said, “Let us make mankind in our image, in our likeness, so that they may rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky, over the livestock and all the wild animals, and over all the creatures that move along the ground.”


Only those with holy spirit can understand lol maybe you should ask the Jews who were before you what the verse meant before you embarrass yourself in public...

Okay Sir! I got you. Set aside the Jews and Christians for now.

Do you agree that allah is we as stated in the quran?

Am i now authorised to refer to allah as they?

qwertyboss:
The plurality is signifying authority here...
Am not here to argue...
After we all die eyes go clear...
" You have your religion, and I have my religion"
The quote is also a verse in the Qur'an!
I leave you in peace

What linguistic or grammatical rule in Arabic states that plurality means superiority?

On what do you base such a claim?

Can I now call allah they as a sign of signifying his authority?

You can't feel the spirit or you can't feel the ghost? You call it holy ghost and now it is a spirit? A ghost is the spirit of a dead person as taught by the Hellenists.

ThankGodFriday:
I was once a born again Christian
I was suffering from depression so I became an atheist because God don't want to heal me, I suffered a lot from depression, I blasphemed against God and the Holy Ghost, to I have come back to God but I can't repent again, when ever I try to repent I can't feel the spirit of God in me.
Don't mind my English
I used to enjoy weed but not anymore

So, you agree that allah is polytheist. The deflection does not work for me.
Do you see why the Bible is very essential? Can you see why Mohammed said that if you need authentication of the quran, go to the Christians? Can you see that your only straw out of this question is the Bible? You see the authority of the Bible that you discredit? Would you now accept that the Bible is the word of God?

budaatum:
Then God said, “Let us make mankind in our image, in our likeness, so that they may rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky, over the livestock and all the wild animals, and over all the creatures that move along the ground.”

Would you therefore claim that God is polytheistic too or that "God created children out of emitted sperm"?

surah 6:154 Additionally, We gave Moses the Scripture, completing the favour upon those who do good, detailing everything, and as a guide and a mercy, so perhaps they would be certain of the meeting with their Lord.


Allah, the "WE" gave Moses the scriptures and the Muslims burned them. in all the islamic world, there is no record of the Torah given to Moses. The scrolls and all the sacred books. Since the 600 CE, Mohammed and subsequently the caliphate attacked nations and burned all the scriptures that they claim allah gave to Moses. If those were from allah, why no keep them and use them for comparison?

No nation has invaded the caliphate to destroy their artefacts and burn their masjids, but in all the masjids around arabia, no single manuscript of their acclaimed holy quran is found. They burn and keep on burning to conceal all the evidence. Asked them, where are the original manuscripts of the uthman's quran?

On the other hand, fragments of the Bible that was written thousands of years before mohammed was born continue to be found in Israel. In 1947 the dead sea scroll was discovered in a forgotten cave. Ladies and gentlemen, if any letter in that dead sea scroll had the amount of disparity as we have seen in the quran, so many people would have condemned christianity and ridiculed it. The saudi Arabians found 2500 errors in the quran already and are calling for rewriting of the quran.

But given the heap of debunked lies told in the quran and the uncovered fact that the old quran had no diacritic and contained nothing factual but what has already been written in the Hebrew scriptures by the Jews. There was nothing like revelation there in that manuscript. they do not want to sound out the content of that particular manuscript in Birmingham.

surah 56:66 We have been penalized.

By who?

Did you notice that allah is a polytheistic god "we"?

Surah 56 vs 57 It is We Who created you. Will you not then believe ˹in resurrection˺?
Surah 56 vs 57 We have created you, then why would you not confirm it? (why do Muslims find it hard to confirm it for them?)

Surah 56:64 Is it you or We Who make them grow?

surah 56:61 Had We so wished, nothing could have hindered Us from replacing you by others like yourselves, or transforming you into beings you know nothing about.

surah 56:64 Is it you or We Who make them grow?

surah 56:60 It is We Who ordained death upon you and We are not to be frustrated.

surah 56:72 Did you make its tree grow or was it We Who made it grow?

Since the creator of man is WE, and he described himself as CreatorS in the noble quran, is it now safe to refer to Allah as THEY? Recall that he asked Muslims to CONFIRM IT. Do you confirm it?

surah 56:59 Do you create a child out of it, or are We its creator[b]s[/b]?

So, "they", Allah, the creatorS, create children out of emitted sperm.

Is this true?

surah 3:45 ˹Remember˺ when the angels proclaimed, “O Mary! Allah gives you good news of a Word from Him, his name will be the Messiah, Jesus, son of Mary; honoured in this world and the Hereafter, and he will be one of those nearest ˹to Allah˺.

what does Messiah mean to Muslims?

So, the quran is now a fictional book, is that your insinuation? Wasn't it supposed to be the guide of man? Are you asserting that a reader of the quran should Think and not submit, since Islam is submission?

Maynmann:
It’s an idiom, How can you fight via text, learn to think

Oh, you mean that allah is a Trinity worshipper?

Maynmann:
Says a trinity worshipper bwahahahah

No one is fighting here. learn decorum.
surah 56:66 We have been penalized.

By who?

Did you notice that allah is a polytheistic god "we"?

Maynmann:
Worshippers of Abrahamaic gods fighting bwahahahah

Maynmann:
You’ve forgotten both you and Muslims worship Abrahamaic gods, and your creation story is the same because it was copied from tanakh WORD FOR WORD.

Gen. 1 Verses 26
[26] And God said, Let US make man in OUR image, after OUR likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

Very good. So, do you accept that allah is polytheistic or not?

That is the quran, Sir not translation. I copied verbatim from the AUTHORISED Islamic approved Quran in English. If you want, I can also post it in
Levantine Arabic.
Kindly refer me to the quran first before tafseer. Tafseers were written many years after the compilation of the quran. Uthman did not approve of or write any. There were muslims, and recitations before the tafseers were written.

The clerics who are the renowned scholars making the Islamic ruling are the translators, not me. They translated it.

qwertyboss:
You don't translate religious script word for word....
You need the tafseer!

surah 56:59 Do you create a child out of it, or are We its creator[b]s[/b]?

So, "they", Allah, the creatorS, create children out of emitted sperm.

Is this true?