1 Million

am interested in ur car, send me d details and ur last price,
samm_mii@yahoo.com

@ viperman,
i can fly ds ride home by weekend, so tell me watz ur last price on ds ride,
i need one badly

[size=16pt]HAPPY NEW YEAR. IT IS NICE SEEING THIS TREND GROW ,
@ TOMMY, I DEY RIVERS NOW, YOU FIT HOLLA ME (samm_mii@yahoo.com),
@ ALL
AV A LUVLY YEAR
ciao[/size]

longest time, no see no call no messages, no b small thing.
as i open this page now, i jst smiled wen i saw that the 'BIG MEN' r still makin this trend move, I bow for una,
wetin com surprise me as i dey move dey read una messages be say, una mind set neva change, wetin do u, kwena, if person dey homesick wetin b ur own, u knw wetin she leave for here,
As for opoks, i hail u long time, bt una quarrel before, ok i seeeeeeeeeeeeee,
make i warn u , me i well i no knw about others oooooo
nuttin do all of us, make we enjoy this life abeg,
make una no vex say e tey before i show again,
una wey knw the scriptures remember wetin JESUS talk,
he say one time una go see me, another wetin happen,
cos i don waka again b dat
shoooooo,
miss u guys,

Hi everyone
Hop yu will find this short words useful,
It really helped me today and I wish to share it with you guysssss

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'A gem cannot be polished without friction nor man perfected without trials'.[/size]

[size=18pt]Whatever you are going through, you have a choice on the attitude to take.
Do you have a problem and you think your life is over? Learn from other people. Don't be myopic and think your problem cannot be solved.
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AlfaPrime:

Yea, happy anniversary to this great thread! It's really been a long and eventful year since Kuwena dropped those terrific lines of the initial post precisely at 3:56pm on April 8, '07. Went through the 1st page again and discovered that NONE of the current regulars on the thread as at today, even posted in the entire first page of this thread, apart from Kuwena of course.
Goes to show that it's not how You start but how well You finish that counts in life, again, the great ones usualy start great ideas small but other great ones are skilled in making those small ideas great ventures.

May these words encourage us as we proceed in our honourable labours this week.
Cheers!

Hi everyone
am sorry av been off again for some time nw.
You no say na wetin man go chop na him make am scarce
happy to b back and to celebrate the anniversary of this trend with the co-foundersssssssssssss
[size=38pt]HAPPY ANNIVERSARY[/size]
WE SUPPOSE WASH AM OOOOOOOOOOOOO

[size=28pt]G'Morning Guys
Am sorry av been off for some time
As man, u av worries to takia of
But am assurin am back and BETTER[/size][/size]

[size=48pt] [center]Remember if others leave
True friendships stay
Being there for each other
Each step of the way[/center][/size]

GOOD NYT

kenosky:

[size=13pt]Jisi? a lady? (shakes his head ), kai menini? your sense of humour dazzles mi, infact i dey flabberwhelmed and overgasted. Sorry to disappoint u though, i wuznt on that train to London- went by AIR (witchcraft or otherwise, no b your CONCERNment). Jam mi for YIM make i analyse your levels well, e b like say our frequency go rhyme- e don tay i relate with babe wey dey exude this kain humor, or maybe its time to have a female DEAN, i mean HER ROYAL HIGHNESS! Anoda thing though be say most of ya post na for late night, u sure say u no dey post from una meeting? As for your spy-glass, i hear say MI-5 abi na MI-6 dey recruit (u go enjoy the spying).

Aniffy, your You-tube link tap but u no strike mi like somebody wey like woman like this o- if na opoks, i for say that is normal or even tommyex (teddybear man) but u (shakes head )- i comment my reserve.

Tommyex, the season was over the day taylor Eduardoed Eduardo's leg! GBAM!!

Alfaprime, i hail. I also hope the issues i sorted out at ymca will help make mi a better person- e no easy sha!

kuwena, u scarce o- wetin dey happen?

opoks, u don find money forget your homyz?

@all, the holiday is still on- its glad to b back![/size]

make u doo oo. i greet all the elders bot young and old for this trend, make una no vex say i absence na condision cause am
i deey where God put me,but wait dirst make i answer ds man wey dem dey call kenosky
u say na witch craft carry u go white man land abi
i dey always talk am say person wey no well no well
u need go for test
anyway
make we relax well con work na tomorrow again
enjoy everyone

[size=48pt]GOOD NYT AND HAVE A FUNFILLED AND FULFILLED WEEKEND[/size]

kuwena:

Now, back to our argument on socioeconomics.

Aniffy, dearest brother and friend, you have brought an exciting angle to the argument. Yes, economic indiciers of growth, such as per capita income, gross national and democratic products and so forth do not necessarily indicate even distribution of wealth among the population. An allegory in this regard is a man going to buy 10 hamburgers and bringing them home to his wife and two children. It is a family of four, and there are ten hamburgers. What this means is that per capita hamburger should be 2.5, and gross domestic product should be 10. But what if he gives 8 of the hamburgers to his wife, and eats the other 2 himself? We see in this scenario that the children are left with nothing to eat, despite the figure showing that they have 2.5. Feel me? Yes, so I agree.

The issue of even distribution of wealth has been a long enduring one. The philosopher, Hegel described the ownership of wealth in terms of Historical Materialism, in which feudal lords controlled vast portions of land and its proceeds; Karl Marx in turn espoused Dialectic Materialism to reveal that there was a perennial potential for a conflict of interests between the haves and the havenots in any society. And even the best of economies have not been able to boast of even distribution of wealth. Not even socialists republics. Recall that 'all animals are equal, but some are more equal than others'? Even Jesus said: 'You will always have the poor with you,' in response to Judas' telling the harlot that the perfume she 'wasted' on Jesus' feet should have been sold and the money given to the poor. So the issue of wealth being distributed evenly will endure, I should think.

But you gave another exciting twist to the quandary, Aniffy. The question of ideas. It has always been a historical reality that knowledge has been a tool in the hands of the havenots to positively turn around their situations. According to the Review of Richard Wright's Black Boy, education was seen as the major factor in the success of the Civil Rights movement in the USA, that has elevated the social and economic status of black Americans in the USA today. Everywhere that people become educated, the tendency has been for the economic situation of such people to improve, ceteris paribus. With increased awareness comes a repudiation of mediocrity, and its attendant ills of poverty, superstition and disease (Cf Okunna, 1994). All these are testaments to the necessity of improved education for third world countries.

But this brings us to another issue: the quality of education received. And the avenues for utility of such education. Recent statistics show that up to 60% of Nigerian graduates are unemployable. What this means is that they have learnt so little that the industries available cannot employ them. And some that may have learnt much cannot find industries to employ them, more like the song we used to sing as kids: Some have food but cannot eat; some can eat but have no food. And we few who have food and can eat are getting bored of eating the same food everyday (underemployment). So where does all this leave us? We need more industries, but not all of them built in the urban areas. There should be a simultaneous development of urban and rural areas. 40% urban, and 60% rural: decongestion of mega cities; improvement of rural infrastructure, such as electricity, pipeborne water and so forth, and improved education that is both pragmatic and tailored for constructive development. And we need them now.

As for all these not been achievable quickly, let us recall that it took just under half a century for Japan to turn around her economic situation, and a little more for the 'Asian tigers' to emerge. Let us stop pretending that we are doing well enough. Our current level of growth leaves much to be desired. There is a long way for us to go. Let us start now and stop wasting time.

@ kwena
i salute u cos d time wey u n alfaprime dey use strategize to write una epistle, i go don use am watch 3 matches, but i hail una for the courage n alakrity wey una dey use write
keep it on sorrriiiii keep it up

kenosky:




[size=13pt]kai, so since monday, na 2day u just miss mi? kai menini! wetin u say we fit do for this arsenal boiz na?[/size]

person wey no well no well.
make i first greet everybody wey dey here.hope say una dey enjoy the break,
i dey try wan enjoy my own break sha
@ kenosky
if i hear u talk AR, pere, I go u, eveen before u reach SE, NA, L,
U NO DEY FEAR

tommyex:

Have a happy SUNDAY everyone

@ tommyex
au far?no vex say i dey blank for sometime. the way things dey go na him no make me talk.
I don tire for wetin Arsenal dey play nw. Imagine for straight draw matches (8 points gone), i no even knw wetin to do again but as u don talk, God help Arsenal, infact God deliver Arsenal
i sign out first

[size=18pt]THE RULES FOR BEING HUMAN[/size]
[size=14pt]You will receive a body.
You may like it or hate it, but it will be yours for the entire period of this time around.
You will learn lessons.
You are enrolled in a full time informal school called Life. Each day in this school you will have the opportunity to learn lessons. You may like the lessons or think them irrelevant and stupid.
There are no mistakes, only lessons.
Growth is a process of trial and error: Experimentation. The “failed” experiments are as much a part of the process as the experiment that ultimately “works”
A lesson is repeated until learned.
A lesson will be presented to you in various forms until you have learned it. When you have learned it, you can then go on to the next lesson.
Learning lessons does not end.
There is no part of life that does not contain its lessons. If you are alive, there are lessons to be learned.
“There” is no better than “here.”
When your “there” has become a “here,” you will simply obtain another “there” that will again look better than “here.”
Others are merely mirrors of you
You cannot love or hate something about another person unless it reflects something you love or hate about yourself.
What you make of your life is up to you.
You have all the tools and resources you need. What you do with them is up to you. The choice is yours.
Your answers lie inside you.
The answers to Life’s questions lie inside you. All you need to do is look, listen and trust.
You will forget all this[/size]

niyooo:

Hi All,

Sorry bout the tone of my last post. I was actually peeved with someone in my office and i think going through Kuwena's post kind of got me riled a bit. I'm sure i'll just have ignored it as i had ignored many earlier posts that were even worse. Let me add something before i check out of here. Kuwena, no one hates you, no one wishes you evil or wishes you to fail, no one at least on this thread knew you from Adam before LNG joined us together and you decided to write about what you had been through and all that. Peeps on the thread sympathized with you and life went on. We all have our various stories though some might not be as dramatic or traumatic as others. We are all at the stage that will determine what we'll end up being in our lives ( a so-called critical stage in our lives) everyone is planning and scheming on how to make the most of this stage so that we'll have a good life for ourselves, our families and our families yet to be. If anyone makes it big tomorrow we'll all remember the time we were all young with bright ideas and beautiful plans for the future and those that are friends will reminesce on those times. Kuwena please just concentrate on you and what you want, ignore completely your percieved notion of what anyone thinks or wishes for you 'because when it is all said and done we are ultimately responsible for what we make of ourselves.

I'll not like to join in the religious argument 'because it is only God and the individual involved who knows who is truly worshipping Him. Worshipping God is not all about the ceremonies and other activities that takes place in our places of worship but more of a mind thing. Kuwena, if you've decided to worship God "your own way" please go ahead and do so. You do not need anyone to convince/confuse you otherwise. You know the good thing about God is that He gave us all Free will. That is the power to decide what we want to do and so we'll also be resposible for such.

As a by-line before i go peeps if you have anything you are convinced about and want to do, please go ahead and do it, don't procrastinate about it, just go ahead and do it so you'll not rue the missed chance later in the future even if it leads to failure at least you'll have learned a lesson or two that will be beneficial in future. Just imagine if Bill Gates had decided to complete his education in the University or if he had asked for other people opinion? So Kuwena if you want to go to the US, go and we all pray you succeed because it's always better if someone you know succeeds than someone you don't even know from Adam for obvious reasons.

Peace out.

@ niyoo, i salute ur courage, abeg we are all one family so make we settle all d differences and go on
@ kenosky
person no well wey dey try dey well, na him u be
@ kwena
dont worry, it shall be well, infact it is well. go and scatter, go and show them d stuff u r made of.
@ all
i neva run, i still dey na some things dey hook me
[size=68pt]GOOD NYT[/size]

kuwena:

Listen. I'm not an authority on religion or anything of the sort; so at best I can only offer a philosophical overview of the subject. I do that below.

To understand religion (in this case, Christianity), we must look at the background of Jesus, summarily. Now, Jesus was born at a time when the Romans were lording it over the Jews, and the Jews were hating every minute of it. They were looking for someone who would come and bring a revolutionary breakaway from their Roman overlords. They searched their holy books and found that Yahweh had indeed promised them a saviour, and that saviour was to restore to them their sovereignty. It was so they perceived the issue (and that is why till date, the Jews still expect their real redeemer). This saviour of theirs was going to be a political, an economic and a celebrity leader, to show the Romans that the Jews were really a great race.

Enter Jesus, born to the 'wrong' parents, in the 'wrong' place, and from a 'wrong' village ('Can anything good come out of Nazareth?'). He grew up realizing the extent of spirituality he was capable of. He saw that he could fathom grand mysteries; could work outstanding wonders. And deep inside he knew he was not an ordinary man. He too read the scriptures, and he too saw that the Jews expected a messiah. He 'knew' then that he was that messiah; only, he would teach the Jews that they were wrong to think that the messiah would be a man of politics. They had not interpreted scripture properly.

The issue before him then, as is the case with most great men, was to change the perceptions of those around him; and this he proceeded to do. 'Blessed are the poor'; 'I am the Son of God.' These were some of the things he said that made his people entirely furious with him. Sinners, tax collectors, scum bags; these were his best friends. What a shame. Fishermen, peasants, O my God; what kind of non-conformist fellow was this? And then accusing the Jews of all manner of things; now that was terrible. 'Profaning' the Sabbath. My, was this some kind of a demon? No wonder they called him Beelzebub. Truth be told: Jesus was a societal nutcase. And a huge irritation to the Jews. He was turning society upside down. And seeming to be enjoying it, too.

Now the Jews were very principled people. They did much to be right, and perfect and just, and all that. And their religion was compatible with wealth. Indeed, most times it was the consequence of wealth, by the very logic that the leaders of their religion were often the wealthiest in the clan, and consequently the most respected. It was an exclusive, patriarchal religion. It favoured the rich, the powerful and the strong, and it could cover the excesses of the pretentious, those who pulled their camels out of wells on the Sabbath when no one was looking. It was the poor that were the victims of this religion, and Jesus wanted to change the system.

He must have seen his father, a good and just man, hammering away at the wood; and his mother, a good and just woman, kneeling at the mill; and they never seemed to get ahead. And he knew that they were not less holy than the kings and chief priests who mouthed the Torah and claimed to know everything. And he knew the kind of messiah he was going to be. O yes, he knew. And it was so he told his disciples, when they asked him to tell them the essence of his mission. It was then he told them of the encounter with Satan; how the devil tempted him to be an economic messiah, but he refused; how the devil tempted him to be a celebrity and he refused; how the devil tempted him to be a political overlord, and he refused. But in truth, he could be all these things. But only he knew; he knew he was going to be a poor man, and was going to bring the 'goodnews to the poor; tell prisoners they were free; give sight to the blind, and go tell everyone the news of God's kingdom,' where status and wealth were worthless, and only spiritual realities; not laws that people could not keep, and that favoured wealthy classes, who could live easily on pretences; not the gold in the temple, but the temple itself.

And that day when he said to his apostles that a rich man would find it very hard to enter the kingdom of God, Peter asked: 'If that is the case, then who can be saved?' Because Peter 'knew' that rich people were nearest to God; and if they were not going in, then how could they, the poor, get in? He did not know that Jesus meant the opposite, that 'the first would be last, and the last, first; that prostitutes and sinners were making their way into the kingdom of God before the pharisees and the scribes, who only washed the outside of the cup; who looked like whitewashed sepulchres, casing dead men's bones.' Jesus knew he would change the system. He would humble the proud and raise the lowly, just like his mother had always thought.

That day Mary went to visit Elizabeth was not fortuitous. She had perceived a young man come to her, dressed in white, looking like an angel. He had told her that his name was Gabriel, a messenger from Yahweh El-Elyon; he had come to tell her that she was to birth a son (this was the same angel that the Al-Qua'ran said visited The Prophet, may the peace of God rest forever upon him, and told him to recite in the name of Rassullulahi, who made man out of clots of blood, on the holy mountain, when the The Great Prophet, eis salaam, was in prayer). The angel had told her to rejoice, she who was so highly favoured by God; that she was to conceive a son of the Holy Spirit. The angel also told her that Elizabeth in her old age had conceived. And as she ran into the older woman's house later on, she spoke in ecstasy of her perceived liberation:

My soul is filled with joy
As I sing to Yahweh, my saviour
He has looked upon his servant
He has visited his people
And holy is his name
Through all generations, everlasting is his mercy
To the people he has chosen;
To the hungry he gives food, sending the rich away empty
In his mercy he is mindful of the people he has chosen
For even though I am poor, my name will sound out the earth
He takes kings from their thrones
And seats peasants thereon
He will bring back Israel from servitude
As he promised Abraham and all his posterity.

It was her hope that her child would do all that, and more. And Jesus did not disappoint. In all the controversial life he lived, this one message of his was constant: That God was bound to resist the proud and favour the humble; that the poor were to inherit the kingdom of God; that the meek were to inherit the earth; that we were not to worry about food, for the birds were fed by God; that we were to become like little children, not caring what we would eat the next day, since the next day would take care of itself. That we were to allow people to slap us on the other cheek when they had ascribed to themselves the liberty of slapping us on one; that we were to give our tunics as well, to those who took our coats.

O how angry he was when he came that day and saw the people selling in the house of God! His temper flared out, and his veins stood. The vicious anger consumed him so much that he could barely contain it. The villains of materialism were not content with practising their exploitative merchandise out in the streets; they had to bring it to the temple too! The temple he could not visit often because of transport costs. This would not do at all. He formed whips and began to flog. He flogged the traders with such passion that they upturned their tables and fled for their dear lives. He was very consumed with indignation as he panted afterwards, daring them to come within seven meters of the temple precincts if they loved their lives. And when the Jewish authorities asked him what right he had to do that, he said: 'Destroy this temple, and I will rebuild it in three days.' Or simply, 'I am ready to lay down my life to preserve the rapidly eroding spirituality of the common people; the spirituality that you seem destined to squelch with all this materialism of yours.' And the Jews 'knew'; they knew he was a mad man. And what was more, they knew they had to kill him. Before he came to the notice of the Romans.

But Jesus (Isa eis salaam) had proved one point: materiality was nothing. Spirituality was everything. He had never been part of the wordly system that favoured the rich. He had been a radical. He had prayed, when he knew he was leaving his apostles: 'Father, keep them in the world (to continue the mission), but do not let them become part of it.' He did not want his disciples to become like the materialistic people the world was filled with. People who could not do the will of God, but kept mouthing endless nothingness to Yahweh, a Yahweh they did not even know. A Yahweh he 'knew' because he 'came from him,' whereas the others all came from the devil. He dreamed of a world where there were no capitalists; no exploitative commerce; only brotherliness, where the young and old played all day long; did not eat at the expense of others; where there was to be no suffering; no death; only singing and playing, and listening to the Son of God talk about heavenly things. Like Mary who sat at his feet that day he went to visit his friends, though Martha complained to Jesus, telling him to let her help out with the chores. He recalled the rich young man, who had kept all the laws of Moses. Jesus had 'looked steadily at him and loved him'; he had thought that here was one more person to do the will of God in full. Here was one more disciple. He told him the catch: 'Go and sell all you own, and then come and follow me.' But the young man's face had fallen at the Lord's words, and he had turned away from Jesus, who in frustration had declared it near impossible for a wealthy man to enter the Kingdom of God. And others who had admired him and come to know where he lived, heard him tell them that the son of man had nowhere to lay his head. He was to be free from all material encumbrance.

You know, I think one of the reasons Jesus has remained one of the most controversial figures of all times is that no one; I repeat: I do not think that anyone at all fully understood Jesus. Nor does anyone understand him even now. Take Peter for instance. When Jesus first met him at the river, he asked the man to follow him. Peter at once felt he was a Holy man, which Jesus was. He left his hair long like a Nazarite, and he wore simple clothing. He also looked grave. And Peter did not think he was worthy to be in the company of such a man. Yet, after having stayed with Jesus awhile, he had the effrontery to call him the Son of God, only to deny him later on, and then to accept all over again to be the leader of a new church. None of the other apostles fared any better; not even John, I think, fully understood Jesus. Nor does the Holy Roman Catholic Church, I dare say. Indeed, I do not think that Jesus really intended to establish a church. His apostles may have quoted him as saying: 'Thou art Peter, and upon this rock will I build my church.' But I think this was probably added to the gospels to justify a growing congregation with Peter as its head. Recall in this regard that scholars have called history a collection of lies jointly agreed upon. Not that I say the gospels are lying. If you know what I mean. I think Jesus just wanted to be a sign, a sign to the Jews, and by his death and resurrection (though the Mohammedans do not agree he died at all, and have credible justification to disagree), a sign to the world that we can live above the consciousness of materiality. We can live a transcendental life free from the encumbrance of earth. And Jesus lived this life to the full. There is no evidence that he owned anything. Even his clothes were taken off him and balloted for. He died naked, though the Catholic Church for sake of propriety contrived to put a towel across his pubic area, supposedly to play down the porn aspect of the reality. But Jesus was a true man of heaven on earth; and this is probably why the earth could not keep him. This is one thing both Mohammedans and Christians agree on: Jesus could not stay dead; Christians say he resurrected; Mohammedans say he was hidden by God that he might not taste death. And Jesus did not stay dead because death is of earth, and Jesus had nothing belonging to earth. 'No comeliness was found on him'; no comeliness of earth. It is through Jesus' example that Christians can sing:

For death could not hold him captive
Even in the grave, Jesus is Lord (2ce).

In modern times, Mahatma Gandhi, a Hindu, has tried to be like Jesus. This was a man who studied Law in South Africa and in the United States of America. He came back to his own country at a time when the United Kingdom was lording it over India. He led his people through a peaceful revolution, declaring hunger strikes and civil protests (recall that Martin Luther King Junior was to follow in Gandhi's footsteps) that eventually made India free, though at the expense of Gandhi himself. But something is significant: All through Gandhi's life, he tried to remain simple; he even had Jesus for a mentor; a story is in this regard told of Gandhi: A friend of his came to visit him and saw the photo of Jesus in his house and asked, 'Why keep that; you aren't even a Christian.' To which Gandhi replied: 'I am; I am a Christian at heart.' When he died, the pope went to pay him homage. A modern day Jesus-want to-be.

So so. And me? Nah. I could never be like Jesus even if I tried. But at least, let me not be like Judas that perpetrated his death. You know, there is a Negro Spiritual on that:

Would I be like Judas, that's what's worrying me (3ce)
Let me stop, watch and pray as I go on.

Jesus' life was so radical that it is sensible to say it cannot be lived in the world. So Christianity as I see it today is an emotional response to the life of Jesus. It's no more the poor who are blessed, but the poor in spirit. It's no more going out there to sell all you own and follow Jesus; it's about owning all you care to, but pretending you didn't love owning all that. It's about being slapped on one cheek and holding the arm of the slapper and saying: 'Ol boy, why now?' It's about compromise; about our perception of 'giving to Caesar what belongs to him'. And this has left Christianity the way it is today: Crusades, Schisms; Permissivism: Gay marriages; gay bishoprics; religious witchcraft; occultic inclusion among otherwise religious leaders; pastors sleeping with married women; Reverend King attempting to burn his parishioners; holy magic in the name of miracles and revivals. Prayers and fasting using Christianity to ask for material wealth, instead of simply for daily bread and for the will of God to be done. When we realize that our religion is an emotional response, we will begin to see beyond our noses. Our perceptions will be clearer, and like the six blind men of Hindustani, we would agree that what we call an elephant is really only a fragment of the whole. And then we will become more tolerant of other creeds. Jesus taught his disciples to pray; he said:

Our father in heaven
May your name be praised
May your kingdom come,
Your will be done on earth as in heaven
Give to us what we will eat one day at a time
And forgive us our faults
Even as we forgive those who fault us
And do not test us too hard.

His way was blessed, but not everyone can follow it. There are some who desire to become fulfilled in other ways; making so much money, or dying while trying to. And it's not just Fifty Cent for that matter. Maybe it's me, or you, 'or someone by my side'. Think about it.

[size=88pt]HAPPY SUNDAY[/size]

kenosky:


[size=13pt]skeelo, no tell mi say u no fit read d handwritiing on the wall! kai, u go enter prison for plagiarism o- because i can't find anywhere that u acknowledged the owner of that work! [/size]

@ kenosky, wen elderly men dey talk, no dey put mouth
Men of integirty and _alakrity acknowledge my handwork, u wan put salt for my gari
all the rhymes wey u steal don finish u no see anything write again, that wan com mean say make u deey beef
abeg my people
thanks for ur appreciation, am very pleases to b associated with men like [size=28pt]u[/size]

niyooo:

Hi folks,

I must commend y'all for keeping the thread going, big ups to you guys (this also includes any lady(ies) on the thread). Though I just browse through what peeps post from time to time 'because I don't have the time to read it all not to talk of posting daily and on numerous occasion as some do. I must say you are lucky to be in working in areas that allow you post that much. So Y am i posting again? While browsing through replies, i noticed Mr Opoks and Mr. Kuwena don start again, (or more like i saw Opoks reply to something Kuwena had posted), so i had to go back to previous pages to see what Kuwena posted. At the risk of pouring petrol on this fire, I think i must comment again to Kuwena, that peeps are really not interested in what you want to do with your life, we all wish you success in whatever endeavour you want to carry out, after all at the end of the day, it's between you and your maker. If you want to worship the devil, for crying out loud it's your bloody life stop coming out here and whining about it and you can shove your egotism up the right place, why for Christ's sake do you think everyone envies you or is interested in you? You probably think that you are the epitome of perfection the way you carry on!!!! For Christ's sake get a life!!!!! I think you have a complex and probably look down your nose at other people like the Brits in the false belief that you are better than them and they actually wish they were like you, that's why you'll come out and make statements like "Blacks are inferior" and "I want to go where I'll fit in (being the US)" which literally means you feel you'll fit in with the Americans and leave us lesser inferior mortals to our idiosyncrasies!!!!! Let me explain some Gospel truth to you; People have their own issues to deal with to be overly interested in you. Some are thinking of other important issues that matter to them than to concentrate on "Kuwena-the handsome God-given talent to Nigeria that is not appreciated!!!!!!" Talking about physique, what do you want the wrestlers and other body builders to say?? Have you seen the picture of Arnold Scwazzeneger(I hope my spelling's correct) in recent times If you haven't, then go see it, you see what i'm telling you is that all that is just sand, perishable sand that diminishes as you age. What matters is not what you see when you gaze at the mirror but what you don't see in the mirror and i know you are knowledgable enough to know what i'm talking about.

It seems to me that you are just an attention seeker the way you carry on and on about yourself and i must tell you that empty barrels make the loudest noise as i'm sure you know. There's nothing new under the Sun and whatever you do has been done before. Stop coming on this thread and insulting our senses, if you think your being born in Nigeria is a mistake then you can go to America and become the next black president for all we care, that's just your bloody business, if you feel inferior because of the colour of your skin, then you can go the Wacko Jacko way, it's your life but for Christ's sake stop posting trash in the name of posting, you feel you've had it rough in life? Some people will thank God and give all they have to be in your position but all you can see is how you wish you were an american and all that, you  lost your dad, you passed through tough times and you have a bright future ahead of you, you are not an area boy under the bridge and yet you keep complaining about how you'll want to be an american, you really think the place is filled with Gold or something? Abeg make we hear word. Do whatever you want to do and you can post it if you like but please don't come here and insult me and mine because you didn't get employed in LNG.

If i've been a bit harsh, rude or uncouthly, I apologize to some people on this thread but the guy just vex me small. Make i go do my work abeg. Nothing do una

@ niyoooo
u try well with ur epistle
first  where u from show come?
where u dey all this while?
why na now u surface again?
if person vex u, kip ur vexation inside u, we no dey share vexation for this trend, na views and advice we dey share
if i don vex u, me self i apologize, take am easy, mr niyyyyoooo

make nobody vex cos of Mr niyooo, let the trend continue as usual

kenosky:

opoks, abeg make una take am easy on skeelo, d guy no too well, if not y im go feel say anybody go get tyme do all doz things wey im list for im mumu epistle!



niyoo (opoks-kuwena rift brings out the best in onlookers! ). You dey like person wey like roforofo fight. opoks, make una free kuwena abeg, a man has a right to want to run to anywhere he wishes though i no support im yabbing we country but den Freedom of speech dey for constitution o, don't forget!

alagba (oops! sorry, Elder abi na Pastor) pak, your definition tap, keep it up at least u no dey dream doz u funny dreamz again!

@ kenosky,
i think say u don dey well these few days, but ur case just dey woorsen
algba,abeg help me give this guy deliverance prayers b4 d guy go finally go
enjoy

AlfaPrime:

@Aniffy
I think I'd borrow or adopt Pak's definition of prosperity, except to add that prosperity is also like an innate quality. In order words, a prosperous person causes whatever he is involved in to prosper. Regardless of whether he is in a pit, prison or palace, he makes the most of his situation (cf Joseph in the Bible - Gen. Chapter 37) and always brings progress and effectiveness to any venture.

On wealth, I'd say that it's definition is sort of relative. You see, what one may consider to be wealth may not even be valuable to another. Then You have the issue of changing values, social status symbols, and relative world views. For instance, someone may have several cars, mansions, and clothes, while another lives very simply, having only what he really needs, yet this second person has vast acres of lands and a huge bank balance. We would say the first is wealthier, because we can see the evidence of his wealth, whereas the latter may actually be the richer! I once saw a quote somewhere where someone said, , " I am rich: I spend less than I have, and yet I can afford to buy all that I desire, so who says I am not rich?" See what I mean, yet this fellow hasn't told us how much he spends and how much his desires are really worth. The lesson here is that You may never see yourself as being rich unless You learn to be content with what You have, and have a grateful heart. Not that You will stop exercising upward mobility (progress ,that is), but one must know when to say NO to the pressures of the rat race. The winner of the rat race (if ever there was one) is still only a RAT.

There goes! Hope it has addressed the question. I believe also that another indicator of wealth is how much you are able to give out to others, not just how much you have saved or stashed away.

@Kuwena, niyooo

I wish we wouldn't attack one another's persons so viciously on this thread. We're only exchanging ideas. Kuwena, by now you must have felt the pulse of the generality of Nairalanders on your frequently expressed views of Nigeria. You know this thread is open to all who can log into the internet, from whatever part of the world. Please do not let out your disenchantment with Nigeria during your visa interview, because it's almost sure to cost you your entry to that land. The US. consulate is always wary of such people who come to them vowing love for America and hatred for their own fatherland. Tell You why? Their reasoning is very simple, if you cannot be a lover of your own country at heart, how then could you be a loyal citizen, and how also could you be depended on to be a law abiding resident of the US. They always want to know that You have a country to return to after your studies, too. One of the staff of the US embassy in Nigeria once jokingly told us of how they usually deliberately refuse to grant visas to those who come all dressed out in "yoppie" american style, because "they have already practised America more than the Americans" and so are probably suspect. Beware!

Niyoo, You know the funny thing about rebuking others is that before u know it, You almost fall guilty of the very same vice You set out to condemn. Are we justified to vilify Kuwena with just the same harsh tone that he used to describe his pains about Nigeria? I feel You, man, but there are better ways! Anyway, you've already appologised.

@Pak
We know where we meet, now!

@Skeelo
Man, this poem of yours is a great piece. If people could implement half of it, we would have divorce rates slashed by perhaps 60%. Keep it up, and make sure You practise what You've preached when You get married!

@Others
Keep the posts flying in. Cheerio.

@ alfaprime
thanks 4 d compliment, na people like u dey appreciate woman, no b people like kenosky wey no well

all
[size=18pt]Na go i dey so[/size]

skeelo:

@ kenosky,where u been run go before, na wao. na your mouth b bad mouth, no b your fault, e be like say na reduction in spongy level dey worry u
u no well at all

@kenosky
[size=18pt]_{the gentility of a lion does not mean that its teeth cannot bite again, it is only lookin for a better meal,} [/size]

[size=48pt]GOOD MORNING ALL[/size]

kenosky:

[size=13pt]tommyex, u got your birthday gift- so just take it and relax

pak, u well so? utaka, aiyegbeni, obafemi, etuhu, eromoigbe- na sunshine stars team u dey recommend players for?

opoks, inside mi and u, who get 'wicked' sense of humor pass? I b good boi o, u don jam skeelo? kai, d guy get 'bad mouth' not b small, and i know u'll give anything to get that American hug from those American busts wey kuwena enjoi from Sade- pally, go find your American to give u your own hug! [/size]

@ kenosky,where u been run go before, na wao. na ur mouth b bad mouth, no b ur fault, e be like say na reduction in spongy level dey worry u
u no well at all

tommyex:

PAK
i don't get d jokes about Nigeria players in Milan
And also I guess u support ManU

Opoks,Ken
Tanx,i was so glad.Make una continue una Bilbe battles if e worse wella i go add fire

As per d grammar,I am feelin it watching from outside,because i can't string good english this way,If na pidgin now,ehen i go yan.

@ tommyex,
i celebrate with u on the slaughterin and conquering of the old men in AC MILAN
We suppose celebrate am
[size=48pt]ONE LUV, ARSENAL FANS[/size]

opokonwa:

@Kuwena
I read your post on religion and all I could come up with first was:
what a confused mind.

I do not know where to begin to put you clearly 'cause there were lots of issues with your line of thought.
First, I want you to get the idea that 'religion' is different from 'one's personal relationship with God'
Most people might claim to be Christian, Great One, etc but may have a very poor personal relationship with God.
Even some of the occultists in our society are either in Ogboni, Lodge, Ekpe etc and yet are leaders in their respective churches.
Some of the very rich people in Nigeria play double standards, hence are hypocrites to the core.
Then there are those who tell you outrightly, that they do not believe in God; atheists. Most whites do not have any shame professing this openly.
Our black people are usually few that does; the Soyinkas, et al. The rest play the 'double standard' game thinking God can be fooled.

Speaking of those who had a personal relationship with God, they were very rich:
Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Joseph, Daniel, Solomon, David his father, etc were extremely rich and influential people in their time, to mention a few.
I do not believe that it is everyone's destiny to be rich (in material things), yet many of us desire to.
I do not also believe that the richer you are, the happier you get.
I do not know how many people in this world lived a more fulfilling and influential life than Mother Teresa of Calcutta, yet she never owned a car.
Her burial and influence after death would have taught you a thing or two about destiny, working with God and finding one's purpose in life.
Most christians go to church but how many have a true personal relationship with him??
That is a question for you to ponder.

I believe that Christ is a son of God and that he came to the world for a purpose.
When a man (even today) identifies his purpose, making money (if not part of it) becomes a distraction.
How can you say that a man who fed 5,000 peeps with only 5 loafs and 2 fishes is poor?
How can you say that the same man who fed 4,000 men (excluding women and children) with seven loaves and two fishes is poor?
A man who once paid his tax by instructing one of his apostle to draw a fish and pick a coin from its mouth?
Are you even thinking Kuwena or have you gone totally nuts??!
How can you say that such a man who did uncountable things is poor
A man who met his apostles fishing all night (professional fishermen all their lives!) and when they were tired out, simply asked them to cast their fishing net just once. The result you and I know was that they caught so much fish that they had to call for help from other neighbouring fishermen! Their nets were breaking of so much fish.
How can you utter that such a man was poor?
Don't you have any respect or regard in your life?
Or at least, don't you have any wisdom?

I am appalled.

Christ's choosing to come into this world and be born in a manger (instead of a hospital) and of a virgin, a carpenter's wife (instead of a rich man's wife) was simply a mark of humility from God _{which baffles the human mind}
He was interested in saving people's souls for a better Kingdom (heaven) through repentance and holiness _{and not to enrich them on earth.}
That doesn't mean that he encouraged poverty. He dined with both rich and poor but had more compassion on the poor, neglected, sick and most importantly the 'lost souls' in the world.
His calling and coming did not include making people to afford Hummer Jeeps.
Does it now make him and his preaching less attractive to you and your type? Sorry. I am really sorry.

Those that sell their souls to the devil (through Occultism, atheism or whatever means) do not believe that another life exists after this world.
So they would readily do the needful to make it here by all means.
I want to be rich. I want to be wealthy. I want to support lives in a global way but I am not ready to give up what is most precious to me; my soul.
Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Joseph, Moses, David, Daniel etc were equally very rich and wealthy but still made it to heaven.
But despite my desire, if I find out that it is not my calling? Why? I drop the idea and follow my calling like a lamb.
Everything here is temporal and if you don't understand it, too bad!

Finally, I would like to take you up on your last statement below:

_{But you know the catch? Though I have no religion, that does not mean I have no God. I do not say there is God; but mark this clearly: I do not say that there is no God. I am neutral of the subject.}

Nothing you've ever said is as contradictory as that above.
You can fool some people some time but you cannot fool all the people all the time
In my little understanding of the spiritual realm (which rules and affects our physical world), there is no room for void or neutrality.
Tell that to men of low understanding; don't tell me that.
There are two kingdoms and two masters; it's either you are for God or you are for satan (formerly Lucifer).
There is no third, neutral or middle position; you can use that to confuse 'children' who do not know better.
Even the Bible made it clear in Revelation chapter 3 vs 15 & 16
I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot

So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold or hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.

By implications, those Americans, Nigerians and others who are either atheists or dedicated occultists are even better in the eyes of God than your proclaimed and deceptive neutrality.

Further verses 17 & 18 answers your quest to be rich at all cost.
You can complete verses 19 to 22, if it will make sense to you.

Good luck!

@ opoks
u and kwena, una grammar go soon cause crisis
as for me , make Madam USA win the vote make we see wetin go happen,
good nyt

pak:

Kudos to the gunners, though am not an arsenal fan but u guys really, really deserved the victory and in Cesc Fabregas, you got a true world class champion.

Despite AC Milan's legendary cummulative team age, they fell to inexperience - Pato's and Kalac's. Wonder why Ancellotti pulled of Inzaghi instead of an out-of-sorts Pato.
Pirlo was uncharacteristically miserable yesternight, made me wonder whether them give the guy akamu drink before the game. He made a hash of most of his possesion and passes.

Anyway it was and ominous end to a dreadful season for milan. Oh how AC missed Seedorf especially in the first half.
Well this might just mark the end of 3 different eras -

one, Kaka might just have lost his chance to retain the WFY crown he won last year (wonder who's next?)

two, definitely the end of the Ancellotti era (step in Jose Mourinho or maybe Lippi)

and finally, no more 'grandpa' soccer. When you are marking someone less than half your age (Maldini -> Wallcot),then
there is a problem, infact the sage was a full 21 years older than 'child abuse'.

Anyway my reccomendation for milan, do away with the old hags and recruit fresh and 'young' bloods like danny shittu,
obinna nwaneri, etuhu, eroimogbe, Utaka, Apam and Olofinjana. With such you can never go wrong.

My advice for the gunners, concentrate very well on the champion's league because no show for EPL.

@ pak, una see as Arsenal wipe AC MULION, Abi AC Milan, we dey on top and in form.
make no body try us

opokonwa:

@Kuwena
I read your post on religion and all I could come up with first was:
what a confused mind.

I do not know where to begin to put you clearly 'cause there were lots of issues with your line of thought.
First, I want you to get the idea that 'religion' is different from 'one's personal relationship with God'
Most people might claim to be Christian, Great One, etc but may have a very poor personal relationship with God.
Even some of the occultists in our society are either in Ogboni, Lodge, Ekpe etc and yet are leaders in their respective churches.
Some of the very rich people in Nigeria play double standards, hence are hypocrites to the core.
Then there are those who tell you outrightly, that they do not believe in God; atheists. Most whites do not have any shame professing this openly.
Our black people are usually few that does; the Soyinkas, et al. The rest play the 'double standard' game thinking God can be fooled.

Speaking of those who had a personal relationship with God, they were very rich:
Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Joseph, Daniel, Solomon, David his father, etc were extremely rich and influential people in their time, to mention a few.
I do not believe that it is everyone's destiny to be rich (in material things), yet many of us desire to.
I do not also believe that the richer you are, the happier you get.
I do not know how many people in this world lived a more fulfilling and influential life than Mother Teresa of Calcutta, yet she never owned a car.
Her burial and influence after death would have taught you a thing or two about destiny, working with God and finding one's purpose in life.
Most christians go to church but how many have a true personal relationship with him??
That is a question for you to ponder.

I believe that Christ is a son of God and that he came to the world for a purpose.
When a man (even today) identifies his purpose, making money (if not part of it) becomes a distraction.
How can you say that a man who fed 5,000 peeps with only 5 loafs and 2 fishes is poor?
How can you say that the same man who fed 4,000 men (excluding women and children) with seven loaves and two fishes is poor?
A man who once paid his tax by instructing one of his apostle to draw a fish and pick a coin from its mouth?
Are you even thinking Kuwena or have you gone totally nuts??!
How can you say that such a man who did uncountable things is poor
A man who met his apostles fishing all night (professional fishermen all their lives!) and when they were tired out, simply asked them to cast their fishing net just once. The result you and I know was that they caught so much fish that they had to call for help from other neighbouring fishermen! Their nets were breaking of so much fish.
How can you utter that such a man was poor?
Don't you have any respect or regard in your life?
Or at least, don't you have any wisdom?

I am appalled.

Christ's choosing to come into this world and be born in a manger (instead of a hospital) and of a virgin, a carpenter's wife (instead of a rich man's wife) was simply a mark of humility from God _{which baffles the human mind}
He was interested in saving people's souls for a better Kingdom (heaven) through repentance and holiness _{and not to enrich them on earth.}
That doesn't mean that he encouraged poverty. He dined with both rich and poor but had more compassion on the poor, neglected, sick and most importantly the 'lost souls' in the world.
His calling and coming did not include making people to afford Hummer Jeeps.
Does it now make him and his preaching less attractive to you and your type? Sorry. I am really sorry.

Those that sell their souls to the devil (through Occultism, atheism or whatever means) do not believe that another life exists after this world.
So they would readily do the needful to make it here by all means.
I want to be rich. I want to be wealthy. I want to support lives in a global way but I am not ready to give up what is most precious to me; my soul.
Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Joseph, Moses, David, Daniel etc were equally very rich and wealthy but still made it to heaven.
But despite my desire, if I find out that it is not my calling? Why? I drop the idea and follow my calling like a lamb.
Everything here is temporal and if you don't understand it, too bad!

Finally, I would like to take you up on your last statement below:

_{But you know the catch? Though I have no religion, that does not mean I have no God. I do not say there is God; but mark this clearly: I do not say that there is no God. I am neutral of the subject.}

Nothing you've ever said is as contradictory as that above.
You can fool some people some time but you cannot fool all the people all the time
In my little understanding of the spiritual realm (which rules and affects our physical world), there is no room for void or neutrality.
Tell that to men of low understanding; don't tell me that.
There are two kingdoms and two masters; it's either you are for God or you are for satan (formerly Lucifer).
There is no third, neutral or middle position; you can use that to confuse 'children' who do not know better.
Even the Bible made it clear in Revelation chapter 3 vs 15 & 16
I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot

So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold or hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.

By implications, those Americans, Nigerians and others who are either atheists or dedicated occultists are even better in the eyes of God than your proclaimed and deceptive neutrality.

Further verses 17 & 18 answers your quest to be rich at all cost.
You can complete verses 19 to 22, if it will make sense to you.

Good luck!

@ kwena & opoks
una grammar hard , anyway thanks 4 keepin the trend alive. alfa prime, kip the trend going wt ur intellectual words