Investment › Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by skydiver01: 12:45pm On Jan 09, 2025*. Modified: 2:35pm On Jan 09, 2025 |
Apologies no one replied to explain your FGN bond purchase to you. I was away over the festive period and just got back. There is nothing fishy other than perhaps your broker fee is included in the price of the bond sold to you. From the price and maturity year, I believe it is the one that matures on 15 May 2033 rather than the one that matures on 21 June 2033. On that basis, the Nominal value at maturity of your bond purchase is N18,193,000 (you got a little bit more units because the bond price was below the nominal price of N100). Interest will be paid at a coupon rate of 19.89% per annum (semi-annually i.e. half in May (cN1.8m) and the other half in November (cN1.8m) every year till maturity ) You reference an instruction to your broker to purchase N18m and you were debited N18.3m. The additional N300k was part of the accrued interest due of the bond from 15 November 2024 to early January this year (c6 weeks interest is about N417k meaning you had a balance from the N18m bond purchase instruction of cN117k. This also implies that the price of the bond included your broker fees. I think you might have given the instruction on Friday 3rd January because your initial enquiry post here was on 6 January. Hope the above provides you with the clarity you seek or the clarity you sought.  manwomanok: Bosses in the house doesn't look at my side this time. I am newbie on Bond investment, don't want to call my broker and ague blindly the reason I brough this for an insight
the gist was I asked my broker to buy me Bond worth of 20m , got a reply that they have only 18m worth, I gave the go ahead
with what I have been learning here It look something is not right, may be an error or something. my reason of coming to my Bosses to shed more light. |
Investment › Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by skydiver01: 11:41pm On Dec 22, 2024 |
I trust the below is helpful  Bakosokoto: Could you please assist with the best pick (ROI) from below quotes
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Investment › Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by skydiver01: 9:51pm On Dec 22, 2024 |
The above explanations are correct (clean & dirty bond prices) except in this case, it is not accrued interest for the whole of November 2024 that will be paid. To be precise, you will pay accrued interest from 16 November 2024 to 24 December 2024 (23 December + 1 day settlement date) if you buy tomorrow because the maturity date for the 2033 FGN bond is 15 May 2033 from the prices you were quoted  manwomanok: Good, That exactly layman explanation I wanted. Thank you sir
it mean if I buy tomorrow I will pay accrued interest of Nov. and Dec, plus broker's charges? also can you say something about the Bid price 94.98 and Bid yield 21.18.
Thank you once more |
Investment › Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by skydiver01: 6:16pm On Dec 18, 2024 |
Yes. That's why it states discount rate & implied yield  Risingcash94: Is this commercial paper interest paid upfront as well? |
Investment › Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by skydiver01: 4:27pm On Nov 07, 2024 |
Because they are correlated. In fact, globally correlated  ernie4life: Why are we discussing bonds in a treasury bills thread?
Treasury bills is at an all time high with Yields of 29.8%. |
Investment › Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by skydiver01: 8:20pm On Nov 01, 2024 |
Why waste time on scenarios that are not going to happen? Nigeria has been one country for 110 years! Best to spend time on more meaningful thoughts/actions such as how to fix the economy and restore our materially reduced position as the Giant of Africa  |
Investment › Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by skydiver01: 7:58am On Oct 30, 2024 |
manwomanok: please House, when is the next FGN BOND date
Thank you
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Investment › Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by skydiver01: 10:23pm On Sep 27, 2024*. Modified: 9:25am On Sep 28, 2024 |
Good morning  |
Investment › Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by skydiver01: 11:17pm On Sep 24, 2024 |
You are spot on (on point) never mind not having an MBA  emmaodet: Which brings me to the question - If you are discouraging manufacturers thereby reducing production, some even close up due to loan defaults and layoff, how you want take grow economy when people are been thrown into more hardship and unemployment. This type of economic move still dey baffle me. Anyway, I didn't graduate from Cambridge or hold an MBA, so I will leave that to exparts or professionals in that sectoe |
Investment › Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by skydiver01: 11:07pm On Sep 24, 2024*. Modified: 10:26pm On Sep 26, 2024 |
My March 2036 FGN Bond coupon was paid yesterday (5 days late but the additional 5 days interest was paid  ). Time to compound  |
Investment › Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by skydiver01: 2:14pm On Aug 28, 2024 |
Most likely September 4, 2024. teejay5: Good evening,house,pls when is the next bidding? |
Investment › Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by skydiver01: 5:38am On Aug 10, 2024 |
17.55%x13/365xN100m is N625,068  presiade: Just to clarify, I hope you know that rate is per annum. In 13 days, you’ll only get ~17.55%*(13/365) = 0.2689% of your investment face value minus fees and charges. So, if you invest N100m, you’ll get less than N268,900. |
Investment › Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by skydiver01: 6:49pm On Jul 30, 2024 |
I believe its an index for the 30 largest capitalised companies listed on the Nigeria Stock Exchange (NSE)  ojesymsym: Make una non vex, which one be NSE30 again? |
Investment › Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by skydiver01: 5:29am On Jul 30, 2024*. Modified: 4:45pm On Jul 30, 2024 |
Yes  joboy834: Please are you comfortable with SCB 2% commission (secondary market). I think it is high. Please does anyone know of a bank with commission lower than that for bond purchase. Thank you |
Investment › Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by skydiver01: 5:25am On Jul 30, 2024 |
Wednesday 7 August, 2024 tabithababy: Please when is the next primary auction date ?? Please o |
Investment › Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by skydiver01: 5:23am On Jul 30, 2024 |
Good morning. Don't worry about missing my earlier post on the subject. Like Warren Buffet says "invest for the long term, keep a diversified portfolio and compound along the way"  awesomeJ: Makes sense. Makes much sense.
Sorry I missed your earlier post on the subject. At 10% bonds weighting, your portfolio is even way better than I would have suggested. |
Investment › Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by skydiver01: 3:14am On Jul 29, 2024*. Modified: 2:08pm On Aug 30, 2024 |
I have addressed this in the past. I have a balanced portfolio. My bonds are about 10% of my portfolio. The rest are FX dividend paying shares that also provide capital gains.  An example is shown below of an FX dividend I received in May this year.  awesomeJ: Why do you like bonds this much na.
Just a suggestion o, I think you should rebalance your portfolio. Add some stocks.
You seem to be a long term person, why not add some good dividend paying stocks that would do like 8% in dividends and may still do up to 2000% in capital gains over the lifetime of those bonds.
SEPLAT trades for around $2.4 but pays $0.03 every quarter. That's 5% annualized.
But check the prices on July 25th 2023 vs July 26th 2024, The capital gains is about 134%.
Over the past 5 years, the only bellwether on NGX that's losing is NESTLE. It was overpriced to begin with though.
I understand you have your reasons and and I'm not suggesting they aren't awesome. I just feel you should be getting more returns . It's sort of paining me 😁😁.
Just maybe consider pushing 20% of your bond portfolio to other asset classes with capital gains potentials sha: stocks, euro bonds, gold etc.
Except of course these asset classes already have a significant weighting in your overall portfolio.
Again, you don't have to take this seriously, it may be someone else who finds it useful, now or later. |
Investment › Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by skydiver01: 9:15pm On Jul 28, 2024 |
You are right. 13% to be precise. I feel great about them. In addition, I have recently bought more bonds (2034) at 19% yield. So its all good  Nakedman: With rate spinning around 21% how do you feel about these bonds as you must have gotten then around 11-13% |
Investment › Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by skydiver01: 9:10pm On Jul 28, 2024*. Modified: 2:54am On Jul 29, 2024 |
Understood. I have been holding these bonds for years now and plan to hold till maturity. The currency risk is quite inconsequential for my needs. Besides, who is to say post/from 2027 the Naira will not appreciate... Anyway, that is irrelevant to me  btw I also have 2036 bonds which will pay its next coupon in September  awesomeJ: Awesome.
But holding 2034 To hold one year sef is hard for me o. I just always feel an opportunity may just show up, not to mention the currency risk. |
Investment › Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by skydiver01: 4:53am On Jul 28, 2024*. Modified: 4:26pm On Aug 02, 2024 |
Meanwhile to change the subject from exchange rates and FPIs, the coupon payments for FGN bond 2026 & 2034 were paid/received on time  Happy Days  |
Investment › Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by skydiver01: 11:52am On Jul 17, 2024 |
24 July, 2024 adetunrayo: Hi Investors,
Please confirm the next Treasury bill auction date |
Investment › Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by skydiver01: 8:55pm On Jul 04, 2024 |
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Investment › Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by skydiver01: 5:01am On Jun 21, 2024 |
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Investment › Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by skydiver01: 7:20am On Apr 11, 2024 |
 Tranquility2345: Please no vex o. But did you pass maths for WAEC? I’m only asking because this calculation is very basic. |
Investment › Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by skydiver01: 1:15am On Apr 07, 2024 |
 civilserva: When you read some comments here, you will realize some people are products of ogogoro tainted sperm.
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Investment › Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by skydiver01: 4:51am On Apr 03, 2024 |
I am pretty confident the auction will hold/take place on 10 April  |
Investment › Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by skydiver01: 5:38am On Mar 19, 2024*. Modified: 5:08am On Mar 25, 2024 |
2036 FGN bond coupon payment received yesterday.  |
Investment › Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by skydiver01: 10:27am On Mar 10, 2024 |
1 trillion  nellybadas: pls anyone with good knowledge? what is the maximum amount of tbills a single individual can buy at once? |
Investment › Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by skydiver01: 6:18am On Mar 05, 2024 |
Verified. Auction on Wednesday. Settles on Thursday gare2510: Is this schedule verified, 7th March 2024 is a Thursday; do they issue TB on Thursdays now? |
Investment › Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by skydiver01: 8:49am On Mar 02, 2024 |
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Investment › Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by skydiver01: 5:50am On Mar 02, 2024 |
The 2nd Quarter NTB calendar is below 
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Investment › Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by skydiver01: 8:22pm On Feb 23, 2024 |
The true yield is simply the discount rate applied to the actual amount invested. An example is below: If you purchase N10m of one year TBills at a discount rate of 18%, the amount invested/debited from your account will be cN8.2m because you get N10m at maturity. Then your true yield is N1.8m interest divided by N8.2m which is 21.95%. Your true yield is therefore your actual return on your investment being cN8.2m Hope you find the above explanation and example helpful gare2510: Pls. can someone help explain how the true yeild is calculated |