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QuoteJustOnce:
Ok sir, goodnight.

Goodnight my boss

KrazyDave16:
Look, both are challenging based on the job description but the backend got more to worry about and sometimes, their reputation is on the line too

API protocol (REST, SOAP or RPC?, exposed or hidden?). All to make sure we're keeping things secure so a bad actor does not access sensitive data.
Frontend worry? What framework to use which is - no offense - pathetic. You can stick to mastering one or two instead of trying to cram em all because one got a fancy and shorter way of doing something.

Good design pattern. After all, you gotta maintain your code right or you'd stick to dirty hacks and that's bad practice and unsafe.
Frontend don't really have this luxury, especially for those who jumped straight into learning a framework after skimming the surface of a language they learned.

Monitoring the server for irregular activities, it never, ever ends after deployment. You might be thinking "but backend devs handles security and stuff, why is there a need to monitor something that's already secure", well we do but not every package is secure.

As the packages used gets updated/patched, we gotta make changes too while making changes without any downtime (anyone familiar with web servers/DevOps knows what's up).

There are other stuff but I'd say not to take talks about how the backend is easy. We reuse code from different projects doesn't mean it is easy.

You made a lot of sense

QuoteJustOnce:
You're just a troll. Keep trolling, mr backend is only just api creation

Try understanding what's being discussed before sharing your surface level views/opinions

JoyousFurnitire:
This actually, since those AI don't write those code themselves but go onto the internet to fetch or whatever they're feed.

Devs will only make use of the AI just like GitHub Copilot.

Some people will find it very useful tho.

Like internet marketers.


This solution (Ai) will save them a lot of time by helping them come up with possible unique email copies, newsletters and sequence.


Most of the answers given If say 1,000,000 people ask this AI same thing will be very much identical....


Only difference will be change of words and grammar construction.

truthCoder:
To solve this problem, you can iterate over the nodes and use the node colors and values to reconstruct the tree. Here's a rough outline of a possible solution:

Start with an empty list of edges.
Iterate over the nodes, starting from the first one. For each node, do the following:
If the current node is white, find the next black node in the list and create an edge between the two nodes with a value equal to the difference between their sv values.
If the current node is black, find the next white node in the list and create an edge between the two nodes with a value equal to the difference between their sv values.
Repeat this process until you have processed all the nodes.


function restoreTree(n: number, nodes: Array< [number, number] > ) : Array < [number, number, number] > {
const edges: Array<[number, number, number]> = [];
for (let i = 0; i < n; i++) {
const [ci, si] = nodes[i];
let j = i + 1;
while (j < n && nodes[j][0] === ci) {
j++;
}
if (j < n) {
const [cj, sj] = nodes[j];
edges.push([i + 1, j + 1, Math.abs(si - sj)]);
}
}
return edges;
}


Courtesy, ChatGPT.

Now you're copying from ChatGPT

next thing we'd hear is your site is under cyber attack.

Learn how to speak English first Abokina

Some people don't use android.

Sorry

obasani:
I only wish they see it that way but no they don't care about that, all what they care about is for me to pay another money. imagine tagging someone as a rapist. that's a fraud enough.

Rapist?

Jeez

Most of them aren't even recognized by CBN and SEC


Next time use Fairmoney or Carbon.

Arrayman:
oga framework and phone are completely different, frameworks are for production purposes, while phones are for end users. If u don't understand this fundamental difference we cannot have an intelligent discussion

Leave that person alone... understanding basic things seems very difficult for him.

All he does is throw in technical terms into his comments without even understanding what he's talking about buttressing a point only him understands and agrees with.

For web dev yes!

For mobile dev no! It will frustrate u.

QuoteJustOnce:
You typed a whole lot, i'm sorry but didnt make sense. i will reply with 3 lines.

1. User's dont care about BE, only what they see. Perhaps true! But when like that guy said, of what use is a beautiful FE without the Be? so who's gonna take the credit in this case? just add a little latency to the backend calls and see users dump this beautiful app; forgetting it's beautiful.

2. Stop being ignorant, before you update an app, read the changelog. There are mostly 3 digits to semver. Major, minor and patch.
If you look well its often patch and minor for a long time, before a major. A major is a complete overhaul that could hurt backwards compatibility. maybe new looks or new foundations. Go to playstore or appstore now and check for updates and read the changelogs, come back with the ratio of major to minor and major to patch. Ratio i said.

3. BeReal is shyte and looks shytty compared to Instagram and Tiktok, but they earned Appstore app of the year 2022. Google it if you ar ein doubt. But you said nobody downloads aesthetically unpleasing apps. So the millions of people who use it, use for the beauty? or the functionality?

Bonus point: You said "Without FE your backend builds are pretty much useless lol." but to that guy who told you Be involved more than APIs. Ever used SDKs and CLI. I use Netlify and AWS CLI every goddamn day and i tell you there's no frontend for it. CLIs dont have frontends. USSDs don't have frontends. Go look at Netlify CLI releases, you'll be damned, they update that sh!t every day i get tired of the update prompts.

I am done, you are a troll. But i hope you learnt a few things. Good evening.

You said no insults and now you're the one throwing in the insults.


You've basically said nothing...
Nothing to learn from your pointless epistle.


Go sit and ask yourself why BeReal won app of the year.



Goodbye!

QuoteJustOnce:
No need to fight, just let him understand. Without BE, FE are pretty much useless. Unless you're deploying a static website that just talks about your or your business and shows a phone number to call. No contact forms, no authentication whatsover.
Apply all the security to the FE( i wonder what security anyway lol ) and then zero at the backend and you in for a world of pain. Because they tell you everyday at FE101, dont save critical ENVs at the FE that the code can be inspected and modified.
Take away all the security ( meh ) from the FE and add security to the backend, and the app still stands gidigba.
Now add security to both and leave the cloud open (self-deployment), let my russian and chinese friends use your app do target practice
Once again, [b]none is easier; [/b]just different risks (in order of magnitude, the FE being the lowest) and workloads attached to them.

Just saw this... we're basically saying the same thing lol.
I was just sick and tired of backend guys seeing themselves as gods lols.



Let me ask you personally and I hope you answer honesty.


How many times have you say share a code/middleware/ between your different projects?

You can basically copy and reuse same code very often in the backend.



Say you have a middleware that authenticates a user in App-A, You can 100% of the time use that same code in APP-B with just moderate changes.

Or say you have a middleware that stringifies user inputs in request... you can basically reuse that same piece of code between apps...


You can reuse lots of codes on the backend which will in turn make your job easier

QuoteJustOnce:
No need to fight, just let him understand. Without BE, FE are pretty much useless. Unless you're deploying a static website that just talks about your or your business and shows a phone number to call. No contact forms, no authentication whatsover.
Apply all the security to the FE( i wonder what security anyway lol ) and then zero at the backend and you in for a world of pain. Because they tell you everyday at FE101, dont save critical ENVs at the FE that the code can be inspected and modified.
Take away all the security ( meh ) from the FE and add security to the backend, and the app still stands gidigba.
Now add security to both and leave the cloud open (self-deployment), let my russian and chinese friends use your app do target practice
Once again, none is easier; just different risks (in order of magnitude, the FE being the lowest) and workloads attached to them.

This is 100% relative.


Without FE your backend builds are pretty much useless lol.

How would I use your app?


Like I should start chatting with your from the command line or sending you request from postman as a potential user of your app assuming your app is a social media app?

QuoteJustOnce:
My good friend, what makes a piece of code or codes require regular maintenance has nothing to do with whether its Fe or Be
It's in simple terms, the business requirements.
if you were asked to create a website to showcase the happenings in the just concluded world cup Qatar 2022, tell me how often would you need to go back and maintain that site after the world cup has ended?
How often do you need to maintain a personal portfolio? And for what reasons? update the project list or redesign the interface, what else?
How often do you need to maintain GTWorld Online banking? Common sense 101 is the first lecture dished at software engineering.

This argument is poorly backed with weak points sir No offense.


Talking about industrial level app not portfolio website or wateva.


Some portfolio websites don't even require a backend.


Nothing concerns this talk with a World Cup like site.


Something like that you'd know is seasonal base and won't be relevant after the World Cup is over... so then what's the point going back to maintain it?


Talking about Apps we use everyday not a seasonal base project.

QuoteJustOnce:
My good friend, what makes a piece of code or codes require regular maintenance has nothing to do with whether its Fe or Be
It's in simple terms, the business requirements.
if you were asked to create a website to showcase the happenings in the just concluded world cup Qatar 2022, tell me how often would you need to go back and maintain that site after the world cup has ended?
How often do you need to maintain a personal portfolio? And for what reasons? update the project list or redesign the interface, what else?
How often do you need to maintain GTWorld Online banking? Common sense 101 is the first lecture dished at software engineering.

My good friend... You're looking at my point from a totally different angle.


WhatsApp/Facebook /Instagram and other giants role out updates from time to time improving the looks of their website/app because they know is what you and I care most about

QuoteJustOnce:
Explain how and give one example.

Focusing on lost of revenue using say a website as an example.

*SEO:

A website with poor user experience and poor mobile first (Responsive design) can lead to bad search engines optimization when it comes to rankings thereby making that business loose organic traffic (Traffic = Money) in almost every website/App.


* Users don't care about your backend ... All they care about is what they see (Frontend)!

You can have the best backend design architecture on earth... Once your user interface is crap nobody will use your website/App only you would use it.


* People regard your business in higher prestige if the Frontend is artistically pleasing.

Imagine if an App like TikTok had the best backend design on earth but had a user interface of the 90s

No one would even download the app.


In terms of Mobile/Website development.... If your backend is dope and built well but have an ugly user interface or frontend... No one would use your service thereby making you zero income.



Frontend is what the users care about.

The user experience you give them is what will make them come back to your app/website.


An average user don't give a Damn about how you built your backend.... Thereby making the job of a Frontend guys much harder because the users will judge your business/service based on what they see and the experience they have whilst using it.

QuoteJustOnce:
as a side note, remember the MTN MOMO attack, they allegedly lost $53M
was that a backend error or a frontend error?
i'll like to see an example where a faulty frontend led to loss of revenue....
even if the frontend was sending bad data, backend team gets punished for not validating request bodies and testing enough.
once again none is easier but you choose.

Poor user experience can lead to loss of revenue lol

QuoteJustOnce:
as a side note, remember the MTN MOMO attack, they allegedly lost $53M
was that a backend error or a frontend error?
i'll like to see an example where a faulty frontend led to loss of revenue....
even if the frontend was sending bad data, backend team gets punished for not validating request bodies and testing enough.
once again none is easier but you choose.

We're talking about difficulty here lol bro.

Not how much Mtn lost due to their own negligence.

Scammer catch scammer

Submit your sitemap on Google webmaster console

Input field should have spacing

talk2hb1:
Backend Developers also caters for
-the servers
-Security of the applications
- Scalability of the application
- dynamic business needs
- etc

Yea... it's in their Job description.

qtguru:
It's a free group, whatever you feel makes sense to post is up to you and anyone, it's joint effort, so you can post questions, and code challenges.

Wow, thank u

qtguru:
I strongly disagree but you are free to post your question, classification of alogrithm is important. Anyone that wants to read should read

You can disagree all you want.

But I'm not wrong.

semmyk:
Great suggestion. Thumbs up! I'll say some dsa or Algo to solve once in a while. Then, we dissect the 'solution' (knowing fully well there's no absolute solution in programming)
If qtguru won't mind, let's kick start with quicksort
Given an list array
larray = [97, 502, 200, 100, 101, 211, 107, 102]
Create a Python quicksort function. Ensure your code include meaningful comments.
Start: 23 Dec 08:15 NGN | End: midnight 28 Dec 2022

Must this be in python?

Sheriman:
How do you guys understand this DSA to the extent of solving all leetcode questions of a thing?? That DSA is the most difficult thing for me to understand so i give up on it.

You don't just suddenly understand everything to the point of solving all the problems.


If you start solving from the very basics, you'd see yourself solving medium difficult questions in few months time

qtguru:
Resource for the Day: Analysis of Algorithm
https://cs.lmu.edu/~ray/notes/alganalysis/

I strongly believe dropping questions will be far better than dropping resources.


Dropping just resources will see this thread lost in oblivion before New year just like your other threads.

No offense!

Ahuitzotl:
[color=#1980BC] Oops, Mr arsehole did I drill a nerve? [/color]

....

airsaylongcome:
If there was no server side, front end would not be needed o. I'm from the old school were what you all call frontend today, we called HCI. I thought it was bullcheet back then and never got won over

My mind is telling me that Sleekcode=TastyFriedd..=sqlPAIN

TastyFriedd..=sqlPAIN

People way I the bash everyday na it your mind the tell u say we be same?


It's like I'm not bashing them enough.

Ahuitzotl:
[color=#1980BC] Hot boiled crap as usual...Yo, F**k your middle ware too..[/color]

....
Ended up contributing nothing...

Go take care of your Farm Mr quack!

Ahuitzotl:
[color=#1980BC] Yeah, F**k your frontend..And F**k you too... Done with this clueless f**k.[/color]

Run away.... nothing extremely difficult & alien in writing middleware's to act as barrier in every request... after you've written for 1-5 apps is basically same shiit

U can basically create user authentication boilerplates and share between apps



When you lots think of Frontend all you see is Wordpress and maybe Bootstrap or something.


Imagine building a user interface like that of say full fledged Binance (All options ) or a Game

Ahuitzotl:
[color=#1980BC] Wetin consign agbero with overload? Where is the security in frontend when you can spoof sites? or the logic if it isn't coming from some documentation or tutorial video? Copy and paste, no originality, that's what's up in the frontend and the less said about algorithms the better...The backend is where the heavy lifting is done...f**k your frontend.. [/color]

f**k your frontend..?


Unnecessary hate... replying this one is a waste of time... oya get lost from the thread.

Mentioning security up and down as if that's not what the backend is all about... That's why it's the backend... you need to know how to build secured code as a backend guy lol.


After you've built 1-5 applications... you can basically share same logic/code you used to secure the previous app hence making your job a lot easier... That's what I'm talking about.


Stop mentioning security and algorithms as if you need to be a genius to write secure apps... it's basically same logic you use for almost all your project.