₦airaland Forum

pleep: like...?

don't you know how to use the search function on google coon!!

rawtruth: Who forced poverty on the north? They send kids to bearded mallams at tender age where they grow up learning to beg, and to become intolerably indoctrinated, what then would you expect from them? Would you compare them to the more ambitious southerners who send their children to study western education (Haram), or to learn panel-beating, welding, etc,?

And, the elites there encourage the almajiri system by taking care of these mallams financially. They praise the mallams for jobs well done. Ironically, their own kids have special part-time mallams who come to their houses only when invited so that the kids' western education would not be disrupted. This is how the super-rich politicians and business tycoons of the north leash children of the poor to the stem of poverty. These kids are now the hounds that have been let loose on Nigerians.

As long as you keep calling them "The North" and not seeing them as the same as you the problem will not be solved. If the country is one country then their problems are your problems. Ultimately all this is proving is that the country is divided but, cannot divide because the North will not be a viable state and we will get 2 failed states in West Africa instead of one.


In the end, the simplest solution is free Education in the North which abhors extremism as part of the curriculum.

shymmex: Focus on Ghana, mate...

Well as long as you keep burning your house down and I keep smelling the smoke I will poke my head in here while making sure my fire extinguisher is operational. Alternatively, we can find out what is causing the fire

shymmex: And you and your ilks are the reason why the whole world is messed up with your linear thought process... How about watch alternative news media for the first time in your life - and stop being a freaking robot??

There are always two sides to every story, that's why critical thinking is important..

If America was paradise, the unemployment rate won't be 15% - and there won't be homeless people everywhere, and more than 20% of the population on welfare... Why can't AMerica focus on those crying for help in its own country??

America is so perfect, yet you have only two parties - and both are controlled by banksters, AIPAC, and plutocrats..

Democrats and Republicans - two sides to the same coin... Give a new party with a different ideology a chance for the first time in your damn pathetic history.

Hey man relax a bit. The USA is not a bad country. You are making it seem like it is evil which is FALSE

The USA has made some mistakes but, has also done many good things.

shymmex: When did education, and economics became the same thing?

Are there not poor people in the South, who are highly educated?

You're not making sense at all.

Education requires MONEY!

Even an unemployed educated person would not join Boko Haram

Nebeuwa: I see that your ilk supports tyrants like Gaddafi, Kim Jong Il and Assad. Sad. . .

If these countries were such paradises before, then in the case of Libya and Syria, their people would not have rose up to challenge the authority of the regimes. It is the will of the people.

The people of Libya were tired of Gaddafi. The Sunni majority in Syria are tired of being ruled by a dictator from the small Alwawite sect.

Did you do a poll to ascertain all these things??

Billyonaire: Boko Haram has to be declared a terrorist organization and their sponsors be alerted its a crime against humanity. Thats all I need the USA to do. Then we can take it from there.

What difference will that make? Will they blow up less things? Ultimately, their ties with Al Qaeda is not that strong yet and as much as you may hate to admit it they are Nigerian. You can never get rid of them as long as they are Nigerian. Nigeria is a diverse country so the gov. has to find a way to solve the problems with that in mind. The answer is not separation because, Northern Nigeria is not a viable state and will be even poorer than Chad. It does not even have the potential of South Sudan which at least has oil. THUS, with that option taken off the table the only real solution is solving the problem before it becomes too tribal and turns the country into an even bigger killing field with no solution available.

I will reiterate.

Nigeria can never split.

shymmex: Nigeria's problem isn't about economics, it's deeper than just that. The South is just as poor as the North - and I can argue that the North has benefited more from the Nigerian entity than the South..

The problem has more to do with their cultural outlook to life than economics... Eastern Nigeria can argue that it's the only region in Nigeria with little/no federal presence, yet they're not blowing themselves up - and producing wasted generations of almajiris and talakawas..

The Northern elites are the problem in the North... They need to start looking at the man in mirror to solve their unique problems..

If those elites are the problem why are they able to manipulate the masses?? Economics! You may say lack of education but, lack of education is due to Economics!

bayooooooo: Who is responsible for this Northern poverty that's the so called root of every extremism in Nigeria?

Well it started from how the country was colonized. Too much focus was on the areas by the ocean. This trend has not been reversed but, has rather deepened and gotten worse since due to those who had a little bit having the knowledge to get more while those who had nothing remaining stagnant. In the end if Nigeria had a leader like Nkrumah early on and had invested in bridging the gap the situation would be much better now than previously.

I ultimately agree with the conclusions of the committee. The real issue is economics. Solve that and there would not be a problem. The North is much poorer than the South and that is where the problem starts. Another problem is there are too many distinct ethnic groups who don't have much of a relationship with each other prior to colonialism thus, there is a real mess of trying to create that now. On top of that when Tyou add corruption and the desire for power(the people be damned) you get what is ultimately a failed state which can't secure it's borders, can't give its citizens needed resources(in the midst of abundance) and other ills. Those who suffer the most from this is the common Northerner which is suffering from extreme poverty when compared to the South.

Why do you keep feeding this troll. I have never met a Somali who talks like this in real life. He/She is just trying to provoke a response. Best to ignore the person.


And yes, I am a troll too to some extent.

Either way a quick look at the situation would show that no country in ECOWAS is directly helping to stabilize Somalia. Our region has our own problems to solve mainly preventing Mali and Northern Nigeria from becoming like Somalia. Why waste time on this troll when you can discuss these issues. If the troll has real beef with the AU mission in Somalia he should take it up with the UN or the African Union not on a site like this

Good then, all the threads should be deleted


If anything it just attracts ethnocentrist and insults.

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Yep, i once wrote this on a black American forum...And you should have saw the backlash by these Black Americans

They actually "take pride" in the subliminal racial segregation of This obvious derogatory classification.

The Term is a Joke, but explaining it to black people who like the idea of separation from The Northern Arab African World is pointless to even venture into.


Im surprised More Africans are not Offended by the term, nor do they even "bother" to "question" why such a bizarre geographical term was indoctrinated in the first place.

Understanding Subliminal Racism is deeply rooted in it's own Vagueness


"Sub"<---Saharan Africa.


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It's allot deeper than Geography.

~ ~ [/quote]Yes, I am not that fond of the term either because it attempts to homogenize a diverse region. Either way technically if there is a Sub Saharan Africa should there not be a Supra-Saharan Africa



I get a lot more when one talks about regions within Africa than non existent regions.

Give me a leadership role

In the end the next step for Africa is to solve the problems between regions. For example the ECOWAS region should resolve its issues, the Arab Maghreb Union should resolve it's issues, the East African community etc etc. When these regions get strong then, you can start trading between regions for the benefit. In reality there is no such thing as Sub-Saharan Africa and within this fake region are numerous regions. The next step for Africa once again is strengthening sub regions in order to bring real development. Now, the sub-regions have issues like problems that exist between Algeria and Morocco and even Nigeria and Ghana to a lesser extent. Thus, if not done properly everything could be back to step one.

anonymous6: I agree every African country should be judged individually and I am not saying the there is a extreme divide between the regions like it is like how it is between Haiti and Dominica Republic but we can't deny that there is silent divide among the two regions, which I feel has alot to with many factors beside Sahara desert environmental divide.

Yes there is. It is more of an economic divide than anything else though. Specifically the countries that directly border North African countries are a lot poorer than the North African countries thus, in order to not get overrun by the Africans to the south SOME people have had to become xenophobic. The same as the divide between Mexico and the USA. In the end you should seperate the common person on the street from those who are more educated or at least more worldly. I don't think the divide is that great and any divide is more economics than anything else. In the end I believe that there is not more trade due to poverty in both regions but, with more growth that will change.

The relationships between North Africa and countries in Africa is not that bad. Every country should be viewed individually. For example, Ghana has a good relationship with Egypt dating back over 50 years. Had a decent relationship with Libya until Gaddafi was overthrown now who knows... Only a minor relationship with Algeria, Morocco and Tunisia. In the end North Africa like the rest of Africa has major developmental issues also. Nigeria gets 90 percent of its revenue from Oil, Algeria 95. Libya and even Egypt are today destabilized and failing states. In the end the lack of a stronger relationship is more due to economic problems in both regions. A quick look at the failed states index will prove that all regions in Africa are still struggling.

http://www.foreignpolicy.com/failed_states_index_2012_interactive

In the end as, as the economic situation continues to improve the relationship will become more useful. Right now the relationship is not bad but, economical issues prevent it from developing.

onila: Ghana is a great country, no doubt. .I am happy 2 see a fellow west African country do well. .I wish you guys can help ivory coast(my other beloved country) do well

Ghana and Ivory Coast are very similar countries. Both are predominantly ethnically Akan and historically the same people colonized by 2 different countries Britain and France. Prior to the war there it was the best country in West Africa but, now is a failed state. I believe with their new election they will find peace and be among the best countries in West Africa sooner than later.

Come on why is this topic not a hit!!

onila: ghanaian men 2 short and 2 black

I believe you are talking about Nigerian men like Goodluck Jonathan who rules you!


There is nothing wrong with being black or even short... I'm black and , tall most of the Bad breath, Boko Haram Nigerian men I see around are pathetic regardless of height and color and just not what a high class Ghanaian woman would want anything to do with... You see, you will always be below us in every single facet and we will always look down on you!! The way you think alone is worthy of looking down on and surely we will continue to do it.

Andre Uweh: Beauty this and that should go to celebrity or general sections.
Moreover, the cultural section is the most neglected section by the super moderators. hardly do they visit the culture section nor post threads from this section to the front page.

And deciding beauty is so subjective. Every country has good looking and ugly people. Posting a select class of models and using that to judge beauty is comical at best.

BTW don't take my comments as being rude! It is only now that I realized Ghanaians are a hot discussion topic. Discuss away!!

PhysicsQED: I asked you why the Kwararafa successfully invaded the Hausa on multiple occasions as admitted by the Hausa themselves and you go off on some tangent that has no correspondence to the question? Bizarre.



And what's the origin of their neighbors?

Anyway, I agree with them not being "Sudanese" in origin ethnically, but the question was more geographical - about what place further to the east they might have been in the past.

Remember that the Normans, a group of Scandinavian origin, were able to establish a kingdom all the way down in Italy when thinking about this claim about the Jukun. It's not totally impossible.



Well, once again, I don't think they're of Sudanese origin either - whether in an ethnic or a geographical sense. But I wanted to know if you could give a stronger rebuttal/refutation of the idea that they were from some other place in the Sudan at an earlier point in time if you disagreed with the claim.

Anyway, I rate your answer a 1 out of 2. The first part of the response was trash, the second part was decent enough. A 50% grade.

The real origin is not different from their neighbors as I said, if you simply look at their language you can get an idea of where they are from...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jukun_Takum_language

This is what also proves they are not Sudanese as their language is not even close to being classified as a Sudanese language. By how their language is classified they are not different from their neighbors

onila: gh guys r cool but not that attractive!

In your dreams I will say you either have not met a good cross-section or you are meeting Nigerians pretending to be Ghanaian Like I said in my short stay here all of you will learn what it means to be the kings of Africa or at least in the presence of one. Even though Ghanaian men are better looking than Nigerian, Men don't have to look good. Women do! Only a real man understands this

onatisi: surely u can do better than that.on the contrary i see lots and lots of ghanian women old nd young dying to have a nigerian stud grace their beds.according to them ghanian men have short pricks which they dont enjoy,well i guess this is mainly due to the fact tht ghanians are generally short ppl

In your dreams small peniss Nigerian man!

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Like I said you are dealing with low class whores. On Average I believe the average Ghanaian is taller than the average Nigerian. I am taller than 90 percent of Nigerian midgets I meet(but, why does this matter??).... Like I said only low class whores may like Nigerian men but, we Ghanaian men are making a killing among the best Nigerian women... You would not know that though or even understand what class is!!

onatisi: have u forgotten that ghanian men are the dirtiest ppl.

Ghanaian men are of high class and the finest of men in West Africa in both Character and deeds.

PhysicsQED: Why am I not surprised? A criminal trying to hijack another person's thread.

Here's an assignment for you. Tell us why the Kwararafa state invaded the Hausa at times and what the exact context was for those wars and tell us where exactly in the Sudan the Jukun came from and at what time (or if not the Sudan, where exactly the Jukun were before reaching their present location and when).

I have my own information and theories, but this will be just the first question to see if you can make good on your statement above.

The Hausa invaded Kwararafa because it was a weak state. The context of any of these invasions by the Hausa in Nigeria was to demonstrate ethnic superiority over what was then viewed as weak people.

The Jukun are not Sudanese in Origin. They are most related to neighboring Central Nigerians and their origin is not much different from their neighbors. Now, the forces of ethnogenesis has brought forth different ethnic groups but, go back a few 100 years and, these are the same people. The fake Sudanese origin is a myth created by clueless 1900's writers.

sarutobie: You are pathetically deluded..cut down on the amount of naija hatorade you gulp down every morning..

Just stating the facts

I just tell it like it is bruv

Just an observation

Why is this??

sarutobie: I laugh in swahili!..where is the dignity in terming your sisters whores because some of them prefer nigerian men?..

Only the whores do.. You will rarely meet a high class Ghanaian woman with a Nigerian or other African... It is a simple fact!!