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BusinessRe: Ghanaian Government Closes Nigerian Businesses In Accra. by SmoothCrim: 3:46am On Jul 07, 2012
PhysicsQED: A while back you said not to rely on wikipedia in an intellectual debate.

I'll overlook the fact that you did and ask the simple question, where is the actual proof that Fon people take Akan names (not that the wiki article even says that they do anyway)? If they do actually take Akan names, fine. But at least give evidence of that.
Ask a Fon person if they use those names. I am of the view that as far as coastal west Africa goes no Ethnic group have had a bigger influence on the culture than the Akan. This is coming from a neutral.
BusinessRe: Ghanaian Government Closes Nigerian Businesses In Accra. by SmoothCrim: 3:43am On Jul 07, 2012
Once again I know the history of the region well. I could tell you the history of the smallest ethnic group in Nigeria or anywhere in West Africa grin grin wink
BusinessRe: Ghanaian Government Closes Nigerian Businesses In Accra. by SmoothCrim: 3:41am On Jul 07, 2012
PhysicsQED: Fon people take Akan names? Give proof of that and I'll accept the claim.

Dahomey is not relevant because you blindly asserted that? Man, I'm not even going to bother with that one.

Stop deluding yourself. An army was sent out, was defeated and several important nobles/commanders were killed, and the capital was in mourning afterward and they couldn't get revenge on Dahomey out of fear of Dahomey's protector. I've explained the situation to you repeatedly but you keep deceiving yourself.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akan_names
BusinessRe: Ghanaian Government Closes Nigerian Businesses In Accra. by SmoothCrim: 3:37am On Jul 07, 2012
SmoothCrim: You are confused or drunk. Ashantee had no desire to conquer Dahomey if that is what you are saying shocked shocked shocked shocked The only groups to seriously challenge the Ashantee were other Akan groups and that is what that article says. This was largely a side battle and not one of large interests. It was a debacle and considered a major embarrassment because the kingdoms were viewed as weak when compared to Ashantee! cheesy cheesy cheesy


I am saying the truth maybe you are a Yoruba so can't accept that but, that is the true context. wink

Esencially what they would be thinking is you have these other competent Akan groups and others coming after you and you can't even beat a weak kingdom like Oyo!!? Overthrow the king and put someone else in power! He's incompetent.

They were largely right too because after the overthrow the kingdoms agenda went back on track. AN agenda which did not consider Oyo to be relevant.
Read this again. Add Dahomey to Oyo BTW!

It is the truth in the context of 1760-1770!!
BusinessRe: Ghanaian Government Closes Nigerian Businesses In Accra. by SmoothCrim: 3:35am On Jul 07, 2012
PhysicsQED: You're a lazy fake historian. Do you even know where Dahomey is (was) and were Oyo is (was) located in respect to Asante and the rebel groups?

Dahomey offered assistance to rebels in Bron, Kwawu, and Akyem and that was the cause of hostilities. If you're too dumb and lazy to go and find that out, that's your problem.

But Asante wouldn't dare attack Dahomey after their 1764 defeat for reasons which they made clear themselves and which I've explained to your repeatedly.
False, Dahomey was not relevant and Ashantee or other Akans had infiltrated it a long time ago. Today people from what was Dahomey take Akan names. That should tell you something. Once again you can't talk about Ashantee without talking about the kingdoms that came before them but, that is a long debate.
BusinessRe: Ghanaian Government Closes Nigerian Businesses In Accra. by SmoothCrim: 3:28am On Jul 07, 2012
PhysicsQED: Do you actually know what you're talking about? Or are you basing your conclusions on one document which does not cite a source for this specific claim?

The Dahomians were the problem as far as rebellious groups and the Asante complained about why they couldn't get revenge on them - the state that was lording over Dahomey at that time.

Please try and actually find out about this stuff and you won't run with start mixing up states.
You are confused or drunk. Ashantee had no desire to conquer Dahomey if that is what you are saying shocked shocked shocked shocked The only groups to seriously challenge the Ashantee were other Akan groups and that is what that article says. This was largely a side battle and not one of large interests. It was a debacle and considered a major embarrassment because the kingdoms were viewed as weak when compared to Ashantee! cheesy cheesy cheesy


I am saying the truth maybe you are a Yoruba so can't accept that but, that is the true context. wink

Esencially what they would be thinking is you have these other competent Akan groups and others coming after you and you can't even beat a weak kingdom like Oyo!!? Overthrow the king and put someone else in power! He's incompetent.

They were largely right too because after the overthrow the kingdoms agenda went back on track. AN agenda which did not consider Oyo to be relevant.
BusinessRe: Ghanaian Government Closes Nigerian Businesses In Accra. by SmoothCrim: 3:21am On Jul 07, 2012
PhysicsQED: Nobody was attacking it when they decided to attack the Dahomians. You just keep making up stuff and its freaking annoying. If they could attack all the allies in 1765, they could certainly attack the Dahomians, but as they explained themselves, they were apprehensive of war with Oyo.
Are we reading the same doc?

"In 1764, however, the- Asantehene had to act when he learnt that the allies had appealed to the
Yoruba state of Oyo for help."



Read that over and over...
BusinessRe: Ghanaian Government Closes Nigerian Businesses In Accra. by SmoothCrim: 3:16am On Jul 07, 2012
Rich0018: Nigerians are free to trade in Ghana, all ECOWAS nationals are exempted, i wonder why some folks take delight in posting anti Ghanaian articles just to incite resentments towards Ghana. Majority of Ghanaians recognize that progressive and strong Nigeria will positively impact the sub region if not all Africa. Churches and Mosque in Ghana always pray for stability of Nigeria and wish it to be strong and lead.
The link below is the statement from the Ministry of Trade,all Ecowas nationals are exempted including Nigeria,
http://business.peacefmonline.com/news/201207/122552.php
Tell them grin grin grin

I am just messing with them and teaching history. wink which many people refuse to read these days or try to understand but, can help teach lessons.
BusinessRe: Ghanaian Government Closes Nigerian Businesses In Accra. by SmoothCrim: 3:09am On Jul 07, 2012
SmoothCrim: Here is some context:
"In 1764, however, the- Asantehene had to act when he learnt that the allies had appealed to the
Yoruba state of Oyo for help."

Allies would mean there were many people trying to overthrow the kingdom. He had no intention of actually expanding there but, rushed into battle due to being worried about what I said. A situation where it would be everybody vs. Ashantee... That is the historical lesson. For a king that could bring forth an Army of 200,000 men a force of 10,000 poorly trained soldiers was not an attempt to conquer Oyo. If he wanted to Conquer Oyo he would first have consolidated his power and then, taken his full army.

This is why I say you don't understand West African history. This was clearly to attempt to avoid a situation where it was everybody vs. Asante. Something which eventually happened in the region and ultimately ended the influence of the kingdom. Thus, his fears were right! The Oyo of course had nothing to do with this!!
Once again. grin grin grin grin

Learn to read history.

A fragmented state which was under attack from all sides. That is why I asked for CONTEXT!

The state at that point was a little Like Nigeria today... No wonder some have predicted Nigeria will break apart and fall.

Learn from history and ultimately what destroyed that kingdom. wink


The kingdom was fragmented and so weak but, a mishap in battle vs. 2 kingdoms was considered so embarrassing that a "coup" happened.
Consider yourself schooled! Now do you want to debate Mali?? grin
BusinessRe: Ghanaian Government Closes Nigerian Businesses In Accra. by SmoothCrim: 3:06am On Jul 07, 2012
Here is some context:
"In 1764, however, the- Asantehene had to act when he learnt that the allies had appealed to the
Yoruba state of Oyo for help."

Allies would mean there were many people trying to overthrow the kingdom. He had no intention of actually expanding there but, rushed into battle due to being worried about what I said. A situation where it would be everybody vs. Ashantee... That is the historical lesson. For a king that could bring forth an Army of 200,000 men a force of 10,000 poorly trained soldiers was not an attempt to conquer Oyo. If he wanted to Conquer Oyo he would first have consolidated his power and then, taken his full army.

This is why I say you don't understand West African history. This was clearly to attempt to avoid a situation where it was everybody vs. Asante. Something which eventually happened in the region and ultimately ended the influence of the kingdom. Thus, his fears were right! The Oyo of course had nothing to do with this!!
BusinessRe: Ghanaian Government Closes Nigerian Businesses In Accra. by SmoothCrim: 2:54am On Jul 07, 2012
PhysicsQED: Can you actually read?

They were not besieged by anybody in 1764. They marched out and crossed the Volta of their own will.

This is the dumbest attempt at a rationalization from you yet.

In fact, if you had read your own document, you would have seen that they launched an expedition against other Akan groups in 1765 (but were still too scared to attack Dahomey, because, as I said earlier, they were scared of Oyo).
False! Read again and read the whole doc.

Like a typical physics nerd you don't want to read. grin grin grin It's actually said history of how divisive people where in that era. But, a close read will suggest that a full force was not mobilized and he was largely worried about a war with numerous allies against one person so made a poorly thought out attack against too many people when the kingdom was weak and divided and a lot of other Akan groups had turned on him.
BusinessRe: Ghanaian Government Closes Nigerian Businesses In Accra. by SmoothCrim: 2:50am On Jul 07, 2012
PhysicsQED: Because you extrapolated that from the summary you read on wiki about rebellions?

Man stop making dumb excuses. Marching out and starting a war with an additional group is not something you do if you're actually being besieged from all sides by your neighbors at the time.

You just get dumber and dumber.
Read what I posted. The fact that it took 2 kingdoms at that time of extreme war problems only proves my larger point. grin grin grin

Stop embarassing yourself...

Oyo was a joke. What historians would call the "LovePeddler" of the region(no offense)


Any serious study of Ashantee in West Africa will show that their weakness and what brought it down was too much expansion rather than consolidation of power. This was an example of that. Essentially what happened is the conditions were created where it was everybody vs. Ashantee and that brought its down fall. That is the historical lesson to be learned.
BusinessRe: Ghanaian Government Closes Nigerian Businesses In Accra. by SmoothCrim: 2:48am On Jul 07, 2012
PhysicsQED: I wasn't quoting wikipedia you jacka$$.

I've read the actual documents that I'm talking about. That might be an unheard-of concept to you, but it actually happens.

I couldn't care less about what that wiki page says right now, since the facts of that history have already been written and can't be changed by clicking on "edit". grin

Later, fake historian.
exposed you loser!!

Here is some full context...

After your read this you will realize how much of a joke you are.

http://archive.lib.msu.edu/DMC/African%20Journals/pdfs/Institue%20of%20African%20Studies%20Research%20Review/1973v9n1/asrv009001004.pdf

once again you don't really understand west African history.
BusinessRe: Ghanaian Government Closes Nigerian Businesses In Accra. by SmoothCrim: 2:43am On Jul 07, 2012
PhysicsQED: The context is that Asante crossed the Volta to attack Dahomey and got put in check.

Stop making excuses. It looks pathetic.

When Asante gets put in check, it's because "it's a very low point in its history". Fine.

But when Oyo gets attacked it's because it's inherently weak, even though the same Asante that was strong was apprehensive of war with them and said that (not that they were under attack from others). Stop making yourself look dumb with these comments.

The context has already been explained to you. They got put in check and started mourning instead of arming themselves.
You are quoting wikipedia. In a two vs. one battle..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Atakpam%C3%A9

hahahahahaha... grin grin grin grin


I read the actual book... Now go read the context. They were facing battles from numerous sides at that time and were being attacked by other Akan groups.

I read history not wikipedia.
BusinessRe: Ghanaian Government Closes Nigerian Businesses In Accra. by SmoothCrim: 2:37am On Jul 07, 2012
london2lasgidi: dont tell us what to do..

focus on ur country...
You are the ones trying to migrate no??
BusinessRe: Ghanaian Government Closes Nigerian Businesses In Accra. by SmoothCrim: 2:36am On Jul 07, 2012
london2lasgidi: any naija girl wit a ghana man..

tell her i have revoked her naija pass..lmao

the ones wit u guys are crippled and ugly anyway lmao..

u can keep them in ghana lmao..
The Ghana girls with Boko Nigerian frogs are below dogs and very useless.
BusinessRe: Ghanaian Government Closes Nigerian Businesses In Accra. by SmoothCrim: 2:35am On Jul 07, 2012
london2lasgidi: yeah check my earlier posts.

but thiz nicca wont go away..

hez like a pest that wont leave the host alone..lmao
I am making sure you understand that Nigeria needs to develop its country to be respected by anyone.
BusinessRe: Ghanaian Government Closes Nigerian Businesses In Accra. by SmoothCrim: 2:33am On Jul 07, 2012
london2lasgidi: make love not love..

but i will tell naija girls to show u ghana guys some love lmao..

it seems that's where the hatred comes from...

ur girls running after us but our girls rejecting u like a leper..

except the rejected, village, and ugly naija girls lmao..

i will pray ghana..

somebody say amen.. lmao..
FALSE but, if that makes you happy good luck. grin grin grin grin
BusinessRe: Ghanaian Government Closes Nigerian Businesses In Accra. by SmoothCrim: 2:32am On Jul 07, 2012
london2lasgidi: gari? u must be messing wit village women lmao..

who makes gari in naija apart from ancient women in the village? lmao..

so u only get naija villagers? lmao..

i feel sad for u, son..

worship me lmao..
If that is what you call those babes who rejected you and came for me then, so be it.
BusinessRe: Ghanaian Government Closes Nigerian Businesses In Accra. by SmoothCrim: 2:31am On Jul 07, 2012
PhysicsQED: After the battle, the capital (Kumasi) was filled with grief and mourning.

There were no other battles going on.

You're not teaching anything. You're showing that you're too lazy to read up on the history of the place you were pretending to be an expert on.
Once again what is the context.


What happened before and was happening. If I remember correctly from what I read a while back it was during a point when it was under attack from other Akan groups. A very low point in its history and not at its peak. Once again, this is a far tangent and does not change the main point which is that Oyo was nothing more than a place that everyone attacked for fun and took some of the land. If he cried it was due to realizing how weak his kingdom was at that point !! In other words lose to anyone but, when you have reached the point that you can't even take this easy one out then, it is time to change the king and start over grin grin grin grin grin grin
BusinessRe: Ghanaian Government Closes Nigerian Businesses In Accra. by SmoothCrim: 2:28am On Jul 07, 2012
991: lol! 5 friends of mine in ghana are married to ghanian girls, the shameful thing is that those my guys are feeding the entire family of those wives of them. shameless ghana!!!
Shows how ashamed they are to marry their own women. Don't worry we will kick the men out but, the kids can stay. It will take 30 years of re-education though.
BusinessRe: Ghanaian Government Closes Nigerian Businesses In Accra. by SmoothCrim: 2:26am On Jul 07, 2012
london2lasgidi: u dont want to see the list of ghana girl that have swallowed my kids lmao..

they have been on my dyck since year 10..

all through college...

and all through uni..

how do u think i know u guys cook jollof rice wit basmalti lmao..
Naija women in your family make very good gari. That is all I have to say tongue grin grin grin grin
BusinessRe: Ghanaian Government Closes Nigerian Businesses In Accra. by SmoothCrim: 2:25am On Jul 07, 2012
PhysicsQED: lol, you're obviously not the history expert you thought you were. Look it up and stop making a fool of yourself here.
You are the one taking quotes out of a larger context. Why may he have been worried? Take your time and think? what other battles were going on? I can't believe I am actually teaching this?

What is the full context? This is always very important in history. I can give it to you but, I think you would benefit from looking into it.
BusinessRe: Ghanaian Government Closes Nigerian Businesses In Accra. by SmoothCrim: 2:23am On Jul 07, 2012
london2lasgidi: smile when you worship me..

you need me cos your little oil cant sustain your big arse head lmao..

amoeba heads havin' ugly people lmao..
WHen speaking of ugliness Nigerians take the cake. I vomit every time I see a Naijaman... The women are decent though.
BusinessRe: Ghanaian Government Closes Nigerian Businesses In Accra. by SmoothCrim: 2:21am On Jul 07, 2012
london2lasgidi: i give them my semen to drink and design their ghana faces with it..lmao

are u from ghana?

soz im not homoerotic like you guys, and i dont talk to men..

mind ya business, mate..
No Ghanaian chick would like an Al Qaeda minded Nigerian 419 man shocked shocked shocked grin grin grin
BusinessRe: Ghanaian Government Closes Nigerian Businesses In Accra. by SmoothCrim: 2:20am On Jul 07, 2012
london2lasgidi: shid, im proud of feedin' ya b.itches my semen lmao...

ya bi.tches have swallowed millions of my potential naija kids..lmao

im your god, worship me ghana man..
grin grin grin grin grin
BusinessRe: Ghanaian Government Closes Nigerian Businesses In Accra. by SmoothCrim: 2:19am On Jul 07, 2012
PhysicsQED: The whole context has already been given but you just refuse to acknowledge it. Asante infringed on Dahomey and was put in check. That's the context. You would have known this already though if you were anything other than a fake history expert.

Now go and worry about the Fulanis in Ghana that your people are complaining about and stop kissing Fulani butt.
What other battles were they engaged in? On how many fronts were they fighting?


What is the exact date?


grin grin grin


Was this a full army or a brigade? what was their goal?

Once again know your place!!

You are over here repeating war propaganda and ignoring a larger context! That is why I called you a physics nerd.
BusinessRe: Ghanaian Government Closes Nigerian Businesses In Accra. by SmoothCrim: 2:18am On Jul 07, 2012
london2lasgidi: alamo bitter is hereby banned from naija..

gollywood.. whatever that shid means is hereby banned..

ghana will be bombed to the anals of history lmao..

naija president approves this message lmao..
Take care of Boko Haram first!!
BusinessRe: Ghanaian Government Closes Nigerian Businesses In Accra. by SmoothCrim: 2:15am On Jul 07, 2012
london2lasgidi: shid any naija girl that mess wit a burned ghana chimp needs her naija identity revoked..

ghana belongs in the bin bag on africa..

country of pongs.. acheampong, obopong, amanpong, afrimpongs lmao..

cu.nt face havin' ghana chimps. lmao
If Ghana is in the bin bag then Nigeria is under the Bin bag. A failed state with nothing to be proud of.
BusinessRe: Ghanaian Government Closes Nigerian Businesses In Accra. by SmoothCrim: 2:14am On Jul 07, 2012
PhysicsQED: The Oyo put Asante in check and the monarch of Asante did nothing about it. Fact.

Keep kissing Hausa and Fulani a$$ though. Maybe one day they'll notice you.
False False False. Once again why not give the whole context if you are man enough. You know your inferiority to your masters and all other peoples groups in the region... Once again they took part of your land and you dress like them... grin grin grin grin
BusinessRe: Ghanaian Government Closes Nigerian Businesses In Accra. by SmoothCrim: 2:13am On Jul 07, 2012
Once again, Nigerians have nothing to do with Ghana so stop being annoying and solve Nigeria's numerous problems. grin grin grin grin grin We are all laughing at you at not with you.
BusinessRe: Ghanaian Government Closes Nigerian Businesses In Accra. by SmoothCrim: 2:11am On Jul 07, 2012
PhysicsQED: lol @ this

Trust me, the oyibo I'm talking about, far from writing negative propaganda about it, was actually praising Ashanti at several points.

I know you like to just throw out conjectures about places and people you haven't read about though, so it's to be expected of you.
And there is no such thing as a dumb physics nerd. That's an oxymo[i]r[/i]on, you mo[i]r[/i]on.
Once again your Hausa-Fulani masters took part of your land. Prove me wrong! grin grin grin grin

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