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Please how do you mean you CANT!

Again, You're allowed to work 20hrs term time!!! Whatever legal thing you can do during that time, please and by all means, do it!! Its not against your visa conditions.

justwise:
Yes you can’t as long as you are holding student visa.

Calm your nerves and get the PSW then you are as free as bird to do any business you want.

Just keep to your student visa rules just for one year.. I mean one year!!! Trouble free and you have the rest of your time to work or do business. Seriously is that difficult?

By all means, you can do care work and security work, no harm in that.
But for those who are ready to push themselves, there's no harm in that and its not a crime either.

justwise:
“ Essentially” you get caught and book thrown at up.

“ Essentially” that online business you think it’s hidden from the authority get you in hot water in no time.

Sometimes I read posts from people here trying to act smart I laughed .

Then declare your tax and pay accordingly. The question is for who was asking what the possibilities are. And my response is, the possibilities are endless.

Bourne007:
This is simply tax evasion. Foreign income will usually be taxable if receiving "salary by direct credit to your account" in UK. Going by your example, even the business in Korea will do their necessary KYC

Essentially, you can carry out any 'offline' business as long as its not reported to HMRC.

For example, you can be consulting for a business in Korea and they pay you your salary by direct credit to your account as services rendered, then you're fine.

The second illustration: 20 hours does not mean you cannot earn far more than someone who is engaged full time.
For example: You can be engaged 20 hrs but earning £40 per hour(depends on your skill set and the service you can produce). That brings your monthly salary to about £3200 per month.

And please don't ask me what kind of jobs are those. People need to be very creative.

Essentially, be creative but don't break the law.

NB: I know 90% will do care jobs and security but atleast the remaining 10% need to hear that there's something else out there.

Chysunshine1:
I am totally confused about the 20hrs .Are we free to do online business like online teaching, crytpcurrency ,online legal jobs.

Do a paid call and let the person you're speaking with know the facts of your application.

1. You all applied together.
2. You as the main applicant have gotten your visa.
3. And on that note, all your documents should have been confirmed (which includes financial statement) - and hopefully this is not what they are trying to confirm for one of your kids which is then taking time.

My assumption here is that there is no issue with parental custody with the children that they need to confirm. And that if your spouse is not travelling with you at this time, you have provided a consent form to this effect (this is a different conversation altogether).

sniperaz:
From the numerous mails from families and the disparity in the correspondence of their various applications, the only thing this suggest is that family applications submitted together are treated along different paths and downstream processes. Essentially, sounds like you can have a multiple to single relationship between CW's and applicants with dependents ie multiple CW's can work on a single family application. Which then means its possible for you all to get different emails at different times - depending on which CW is working on what applicant.
Its nothing for you to worry about, its just the way HO has decided to work on applications.

From the numerous mails from families and the disparity in the correspondence of their various applications, the only thing this suggest is that family applications submitted together are treated along different paths and downstream processes. Essentially, sounds like you can have a multiple to single relationship between CW's and applicants with dependents ie multiple CW's can work on a single family application. Which then means its possible for you all to get different emails at different times - depending on which CW is working on what applicant.
Its nothing for you to worry about, its just the way HO has decided to work on applications.

Menab:
Hello house, Anyone here who has experienced this,

Applied with my kids and I got my visa since last week.

Today, one out of the two kids was moved to VAC as today is 15 working day.

This after I got a non straight forward mail for my second child from pretoria

What could be happening?

I already buy tickets for everyone for Thursday evening.

Can I do a paid call or not necessary?

I am devastated right now

Yes, because UK immigration route is not the easiest/best in the world. Even the Indians have started looking elsewhere.

Mashaunola:
Nigerians granted student visa has increased by 83% since March 2021. Look at the trend. This spike is alarming.
If you want to apply, make sure you apply now and don’t procrastinate. This figures mean something, if you know you know.

Source: home office website.

No unnecessary comments please, just read, understand and move on.

Disclaimer: I have never worked with HO or claim to know someone who does.

You may be right to some extent.
But this would also depend on the service you paid for.
Ofcourse, if its super priority, and your statement has to be verified, I'm sure a CW can put a call through straight to the bank for verification (or whichever third party supplier they use). All of this would happen within minutes of submission.
If its priority, and it has to be confirmed, definately within first two days so they can meet the 5 days service standard.
If its standard, it may not happen within the first four days of submission considering hey have to put super priority and priority ahead of your applications.
Bear in mind some of the processes are automated which might include document readers.

Jaylo79:
It’s usually in the first 4 days of your biometrics. If they delay in responding to them. They’ll send non-straightforward.

So I don't like back and forth but good to address some of your misconceptions.

I'm not interested in why people are asking for student loan on nairaland - my advice is to any genuine person who stumbles on that comment so they can be well informed. If you must take a student loan to get a degree, if you think that's the best thing for you, please do it!

There's nothing different about UK student loan (asides accessibility). Its a loan, and the expectation is to payback. Its not free money. The only place where its free is Scotland and thats why I put that in bracket (comes with some requirement). If you think you can run away from paying back because you don't meet the earning threshold, you better think again because its going on your credit score, i'm sure you know what that means.

i wont go into why fewer Britons register for masters degree, that's left to individual interpretation. But there will be far more fewer Britons in your maters class.

Again to those who would ask, living and studying in the UK is not easy!! But you know what, its not impossible either! Just tell yourself I can do IT.

justwise:
That section is not entirely true, student loan here works differently, its not the same as Nigeria, many Nigerians here in this thread are using untouchable loans, they have no access to that money, just to get a visa then return the money.

Uk student is a completely difference thing, they are given the money and you don't have to pay back the loan if you are not earning enough, if you are earning about £27k a year you pay back £53 a month.


Your second point about British not doing masters because of the cost is not entirely true as well, because they also have student loan for masters student.

Studying and working is not even the issue, we are talking about those who abuse the system, no intention to study which creates prob for genuine students.

A lot of people study and work but they are not working to pay fees and bills, they work for extra cash for books, clothing, gain work experience etc

Interesting. Please excuse my being inquisitive.

So they sent you a decision email and then after, they sent you a refusal email? All before your passport was returned. And all of these was via email?

Horlarjummie:
Yes o. They do. They sent to me. Decision mail first and then followed by refusal mail. Same day

OK.

So there's been some conversations around affordability of a masters degree in the UK and all the twitter post.

First things, education is not an exclusive right f the super rich. If your family can afford it fine, if they cant, then take a student loan. As long as you're sure that's the best step for you at the time and it can be justified. Student loan is not a new thing! More than half the students in your class (if you have Britons, Americans or Europeans) would be on student loan. So if you're thinking to take a loan from nig to fund your education, please go for it. The people granting your visa are aware!!, That's how most of them went to college. You wont be the first and you wont be the last. Africa and student loan is a different conversation altogether.

Secondly, hustle. There's no problem with hustling as long as it doesn't affect your education!! Again you need to understand how their system works. Its slightly different from ours. For us, we finish secondary school, write JAMB and move straight to Uni. No need to work. Education is already heavily subsidised. So for most of us, its already very affordable especially if you're in federal or state university. For Britons, its not the case (except you're scottish - another conversation as well). Education is expensive. Infact, you really don't have to go beyond college (secondary school) if you cant afford it. Masters is almost exclusive for super brilliant students - and that's why you would hardly have Britons as masters classmate. Mostly your classmate will be Africans, Indians and Asians (a few Euopeans)
Back to my point, after college, most of the ones that want to continue education would take a year out to work (usually what you call menial jobs) to raise money in addition to the student loan they would take for when they start uni. They would usually work as carers, bar attendants, cleaners, shop attendants etc

So if you put these together, what they do is not very different from what you will do when you arrive the UK. And because you haven't taken a student loan, there's alot more pressure on you to achieve much more in such short time frame (thank God for PSW now) - hence what you call 'hustle'. And ofcourse, with our very weak exchange rate, even your Nigerian savings doesn't really cut it.

For those who want to work while they school, be rest assured the system understands. As long as you stick to your 20hrs during term time and your school work is not suffering.

And if you're so rich or supported that you don't need to work, please face your studies and have fun - most of the Chinese students don't work. Either because their govt supports them or the language barrier.

Yes, ppl have said same that FD is allowed and can even see it as list of instruments accepted. Can i delete that post, so ppl dont keep referring to it - thats clearly wrong information.

Enraf:
You are wrong here. I used fixed deposit and they have given me the visa.

What I would do if I were in this.

1. My wife would apply alone - ensure she gets her visa. She needs to mention shes married and with all your details as it is currently in her application

2. Once her visa is out, you put in your application with every correct details. where they mention have you been denied before - ofcourse the answer is yes and give the reason why it was denied.

If you're feeling up to it, you can give additional information in the notes as to what happened back in 2007 and that you have learnt your lesson hitherto you were advised wrongly at the time.

If you think this is not clear enough, you can seek professional help but I'm almost sure they wont do anything outside of this.

Pijames:
Please expert answer me I’m getting sick and slowly falling into depression, I am dependant to my wife, she the main applicant, I was staying with my god father who did a passport for me to travel to Uk with his family for his daughter’s wedding 2007. I was bearing the surname as of them. I was ask to reduce my age, and place of birthday and so. After everything, I was denied visa. So since 2015 I am now on my own bearing my father name and with my real age both on the internationally passport and Marriage certificate. Please how do I come clean when applying for my visa . How do I go about this? Please help us, we having loss of appetite, super worried. My wife has been given admission for January 2021, waiting for CAS.

Actually, all bank instruments are time stamped, so this should not be an issue.

But if someone's visa is refused due to this negligence, I'm surely showing up at the bank and someone has to take responsibility. If I'm applying for AR, then the bank must be writing that letter to the HO.

fregoscunt:
No knowledgeable bank staff will willingly assist with this as it exposes the bank to possible litigation and reputation damage.

yes thanks. seen it that fd's are acceptable. I've never used and never seen it used but good that its clearly listed as acceptable to meet that requirement.

Bourne007:
Again

UKVI will accept money that is frozen in a certificate of deposit. However the certificate of deposit must prove that the money has already been held for 28 days.

18 and below is classed as dependant child.

ocpaschal:
Is it possible for a parent (mother) of over 55yrs above in age to bring her children (20-30 age bracket) over to UK as dependents?

This makes sense but its arguable.

Reasons is that, I may present two financial instruments to my bank, debit and credit. For whatever reason, they may decide to action the debit transaction before the credit transaction...

Anyways, if I was in this situation, I'll prolly write a strong letter to the HO accompanied by a letter from the bank as well where the transaction was actioned, supporting my claim that they could have actioned the credit transaction before the debit transaction. And I expect that a reasonable CW should expect that this can happen..

amoode2021:
The balance of each of the transaction on you statement must be higher than the required POF. If it's lower than it at any point they will start counting your 28 days from the point where it's equal to or higher than your POF again.

For example, if your POF is N7M and you start counting from the 1st of September till the 28th of September and you do 2 transactions on the 10th of September say a debit of N2M around 11am and a credit of N3.5M around 3pm. As at 11am on the 10th of September your back will be N5M which is below your POF and as at 3pm when the credit came in your new balance will be N8M.

Because your transaction balance fell below your N7M POF on the 10th of September your 28 day will start counting from the beginning at 3pm on the 10th of September.

So if you have to take any money out at and that is if let the credit come in 1st before the a lower or equal debit amount can be taken out.

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This might be helpful.

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/immigration-rules/immigration-rules-appendix-finance

Sijuademi:
@Justwise Pls assist.

I didn't know this.

Patnuel2015:
FD is very much acceptable. Please read financial requirements of UKVI. It's stated there. What you need to use is certificate of deposit.

Any money you're using has to be immediately available to you.
Only traditional current and savings account (in whatever flavour/product its been presented) meets this requirement.

Sijuademi:
Thank you

What about money market.(mutual fund)

Money can be redeeme within 24hours

Is this advisable.

No, you cannot and you should not.

FD's are not funds available to you. As the name suggests, its a FIXED deposit.

Sijuademi:
@Justwise and guru in the house,

I would like to confirm if it is advisable to use fixed deposit investment as Proof of Funds (POF).

If yes, how do i go about it.

Thank you

Interesting:

From a strictly financial pov, it makes no different. its called in and out. No effect on daily balance, at its best, its just another transaction on that day.

From in immigration pov, it should not make any difference. BUT CHECK WHAT THE REQUIREMNT SAYS!! if it says it should not go below daily balance - then your fine. But if it says, it should not go below the balance needed at all - at any time, then a CW can interprete this transaction differently.

it would be helpful for you if you get the opinion of someone who's had this exact same scenario and how it played out in the end..

Teledom1:
Haaaa others have been telling different things o . Please can I reach out to you. Can you check your mail and reply. Thanks



All that happened same day

Read the thread - more often than not does not mean its true for 100% of the cases. My advice is still that, if you get a NSF mail, the first place you want to check is with your bank.
As regards checking refusals, if you know how the immigration system works, passports and refusals are the easiest and fastest to check - depending on where yiu got your refusal, it could even be a less than 5mins check.

And you're right, it could be for any reason thats usually outside of the HO terrain but if you're applying from Nigeria, just check with your bank first.

And when we say check with your bank, we are not saying branch - most times your branch would know absolutely nothing about immigration checks.

Yemzzyy:
This isn’t totally true, I got a non straightforward mail and my bank wasn’t contacted at all. These checks could be for other reasons e.g previous visa refusals

Yes, you're right. But are you going to use the court document as identification document for immigration purposes? No
The court document is to 'help' you get a new identification document in the new name.

So in this case, the court document (by itself) cannot serve the purpose for which the applicant wants it.

bemagnify:
Lols.. that is not true... The court documents supersedes all documents... except the constitution.

Thanks for sharing.

This validates what I believe. Once you get the NSF mail, just know its a check that has to do with a third party verification that the HO has no control over - this is usually the financial institution you have provided their bank statement. Wise thing is to chase up with the bank once you get that mail.

DanWord:
Visa Alert! Visa Alert!! Visa Alert!!!

I give Glory to God.

Application: 17/9/21
Biometric: 21/9/21 Abuja Tls
Moved to VAC: 28/9/21 10:00 am
Collection mail: 28/9/21 12:00 am
Collected: 30/9/21

No non straightforward mail
No interview.
No Brp delay mail.

I declare my family in the uk and stated I will only spend quarantine at their place and gave their residence permit number. The wait no be hear. I think non straight forward mail comes mostly from the bank. I used a uk bank account belonging to my parent and it was very fast. Most of this Nigeria banks don't reply their mail from UKVI I think so. I thank God this time my only sure plug was God.

I remember my passport took 2 months after getting a plug at immigration office she collected express fee for one week. Also transcript took 2 months after greasing palm and all that. I was really frustrated, but was surprised how quick the visa application went. I give thanks to God and pray for anyone waiting May God give divine acceleration to your application.

For those contemplating on VI or Abuja, choose Abuja especially this time if you're in a hurry. Thanks to everyone who answered my questions and everyone who's experience gave me knowledge. Thanks alot justwise and the rest gurus.

Depends on how many documents now has his new name. I will say he should continue with the old name as it is on his passport while you make your visa applications.
If he can get a new passport in the new name, fine. If not, carry on using the old name like you havent even changed it untill you get your passport. Except if his bank account already has the new name... then you might want to rethink things.
But I'll say, carry on using the old name untill application is successful. The HO will only recognise the name on your passport, ie the name on the passport is the source of truth.

Juwon01:
Good morning everyone
Someone please answer me. Please I need sincere contributions please. My husband changed his surname recently and he has his old surname on his passport, though we’ve sword affidavit as regards the change of name and we are trying so hard to even effect the surname on the passport, but the time frame we are being given is quite too long and it would affect our visa processing. Please can he go ahead and use the passport with the old surname? PS; I’m the main applicant and we have a baby as well.
Thank you so much for your replies. I do appreciate

Generally, Hertfordshire is better placed for jobs.

oluwahsegun:
Good day everyone, please does anyone know about life in Middlesbrough and Hertfordshire. I got admission to teesside University and University of Hertfordshire also. Don't know which to go for.
I need to decide based on chances of getting a job, accommodation life, proximity to cities and town life in general. please anyone with first hand knowledge. I have googled these things but keep seeing various answers and views. Thank you.

I know people in the same circumstance as yours would be worried sick right now if they didn't get the BRP delay mail. Fingers crossed everything is alright.

Igbamatigbi:
Hi, I got a mail that my visa has been considered and decision made but I did not get brb mail like I have been hearing others say, please did anyone get visa in the last one week without a brb mail?

And if one is refused visa do you get the mail before the passport?

This wait is not easy at all.

You surely dont want to travel to Nigeria for Police report. they can send you the bio metric reg form online. Fill and scan back to them.

Optimally:
Base on how Nigeria be, someone can go help you do it, but I will personally suggest you go down to Nigeria to get it, just to remove the doubt of how you got cleared by the police while you're here in the UK, except it doesn't mata and can be done electronically.

Two options:

1. Contact the Nigerian High Commission
2. get someone in Nigeria to go to the Police Station and get the forms for thumb print enrolment sent to you via email. Send it back to them and they should issue your Police report.

AmadeusCho:
Hello Good people of nairaland please I need your advices I got a permanent role here in the Uk. But they are requesting for police report from Nigeria how do I go about Getting that from the uk

I dont think so. I think oyster cards only work in London.

gabiomoesu:
Thank you for your response. I think we ticked all the other boxes, as we're all non-smokers *coughs* , non-pet owners and not on benefit. It's just this income issue. I've seen several houses in the areas I listed on zoopla and right move but it seems the landlords are wary of the income stated. And I don't want to lie as even though I'm not sure how these agencies operate, I know they'll verify my parents earnings before they deem us fit to rent the house. I'll check Essex like you've said. Can you confirm if Essex buses and trains use oyster payments please?