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Epaul: weldone snoppy..~gives him handkerchief~ wipe away those beads of sweat from your brow..*collects handkerchief and wipes sweat off face, removes tee shirt and wipes sweat off chest* Lord! I feel much better *hands handkerchief back to Epaul* thanks bro altho I doubt u'ld be compelled to use that handkerchief anytime soon ![]() |
Ayomitide77: Do you realise that all the Fuel Stations across the country are under the oil and gas sector? Do you know the population of people working at oil terminals,oil fields and other oil-allied firms in the country?I assume you dont know all this before and I am glad I have been able to enlighten you about it.lol am tempted to argue this but I'ld let it pass as the debate has been declared closed. Besides I know u are very persistent and never get tired nice job from u, once again you have put my abilities to the test, you've been most formidable so far. Respect |
Miscellaneous: Debate now endedPhew!...finally..wasn't an easy task having to soldier it alone against two brilliant and well-informed opponents as my partner had to attend to his ailing mum. Hoping for the best tomorrow ![]() |
Ayomitide77: It was construction 35years ago,but taken your time to find out when the project commenced.its for u to provide me with verified information to convince me of your stand not requiring me to find out for myself...and as far as I know, Lagos-Ibadan expressway was constructed 35 years ago and guess what? I do have verified information for you on that lol www.thisdaylive.com/articles/lagos-ibadan-highway-long-walk-to-sanity-well-hopefully/155244/ |
Ayomitide77: Did I hear you say 1% of the population are employed by the oil and gas sector.Directly yes! I was even being generous with that figure. It should be much less than that |
Ayomitide77: And what makes you think the money that will be generated from the agricultural sector cant be mismanaged.Agriculture employs roughly 70% of our population as against 1% in the oil and gas sector...the government is directly in charge of proceeds of oil and gas through the NNPC, an agro-based economy is an economy where the larger populace have a direct share in the proceeds as against the oil and gas sector. |
Ayomitide77: Some highways such as Lagos-Ibadan expressway.The Lagos-ibadan expressway was constructed about 35 years ago, a time when the oil boom was at its peak. My request for an example is in reference to your statement that some projects where embarked upon during the era of Nigerias agro-based economy and stopped due to lack of funds. This is no such example |
Ayomitide77: The oil and gas sector has generated enough revenue to make the country well developed but mismanagement of this funds by the governent is stalling the development.Exactly! The reason why we MUST shift our focus to agriculture. |
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Ayomitide77: There were infrastructures in place before the oil boom and some infrastructure were implemented after the oil boom.But what I meant was that there were already plans for the ones built after the oil boom but lack of fund was the reason it could not be embark upon.A classical example will go a long way in convincing me sir. |
Ayomitide77: [quote author=snoopy]Nigeria has been an oil and gasKenya which runs an agro-based economy has universities that rank higher than that of Nigeria's that runs a primarily petroleum-based economy. My point is with oil and gas, we ought to be doing better as a nation but instead, it has proven to only benefit the minority ruling class and hence a required focus on agriculture for a pragmatic solution to the poverty that abounds in the land. |
Ayomitide77: Source please?kindly refer to my references |
Ayomitide77: Hmmmm.....I agree that most of the infrastructural development started before the oil boom,but lack of funds to implement it was the reason why most of the infrastructure was at standstill before the oil sector intervened.Your statement is highly contradictory sir. You agreed infrastructural development started before the oil boom and they stated that infrastructural development wasn't implemented due to lack of funds....it is also pertinent to note that MOST of the basic infrastructure was built BEFORE the oil boom and NOT after. Our top universities were built and nutured to world class standards with proceeds from agriculture before neglect set in...most of the basic institutions were also built with such proceeds and the same government has failed to maintain these infrastructure with current proceeds from oil so i fail to understand your argument sir. |
Miscellaneous: continue puncturing opponents' argument.2 against 1 ![]() |
gbemmie09: Sectors that deals with daily offering of goods and services to Nigerians, and who depend solely on natural gas, petrol, kerosene etc.Our gas, petrol and kerosene are majorly imported my dear. How do you categorise what you import as an investment? |
Ayomitide77: What about Agip,Chevron,Mobil and the rest.They don't operate refineries in Nigeria sir plus these oil majors have in recent times been reluctant to pursue new investments in Nigeria due to security concerns |
Ayomitide77: saharareporters.com/report/looting-nigeria-big-oil’s-140-billion-year-and-counting-thomas-c-mountain?page=2"Page not found" .....a reliable source will be most appreciated |
Ayotimide77: [quote author=snoopy]WeInvestments to fulfil the joint venture obligation of Nigeria with the oil majors, infrastructural development didn't particularly start during the oil boom era, most of the infrastructure where already in place, developed with the proceeds from agriculture. |
gbemmie09: The oil sector is the major force in which foreign investors are coming into the country, this serve as a tool for other sectors boom.Again what sectors of the economy are these investments coming in? and i will appreciate some examples as well because these claims appear to be vague |
Ayomitide77: In many aspects such as the refining of oil.A good example is the refinery bought by Alhaji Aliko Dangote.Dangote's investments in refining cannot expressely be regarded as "foreign investment" as your partner stated |
gbemmie09: The figures are not bogus, it should be noted that we have those drilling the oil well as well as those supervising them.And those drilling the oil as well as their supervisors make up the 1 million figure? A reference will most certainly be appreciated to substantiate the veracity of your claims |
Ayotimide77: [quote author=snoopy]Fast forward 2013, the hope,It simply mean when oil was discovered as far back as 1956, Nigerians expected their lives to change as a result of this but instead the same oil that's supposed to have been a catalyst for development is now a source of pain, anger and resentment...a situation in which economists refer to as the "resource curse" |
gbemmie09: It has also helped in positive economicthese "beautiful" statistics will appear to the ordinary man on the street as a disrespect to his sensibilities, as these are self-serving indices that has only benefited the ruling class and has not translated to a better life for the ordinary citizens, how do you reconcile that ma'am? |
gbemmie09: There hadin what aspect of the economy are these "investments" because if you are referring to the oil industry, dominant players like shell are actually divesting their assets in Nigeria as a result of the immense corruption that abound in the system. http://businessdayonline.com/2013/10/oil-blocks-divestment-shell-sends-document-to-prospective-buyers/ |
gbemmie09: As stated by Egbuna (1989), the entire1 million? that figure is bogus and highly questionable ma'am, even to the most ignorant Nigerian, do you by any chance have any references to establish the credibility of these figures? |
damosky: IT IS BETTER TO EXTEND OUR FOCUS AS A NATION TO THE AGRICULTURAL SECTOR RATHER THAN MAJOR IN OIL AND GAS (SUPPORTING) |
IT IS BETTER TO EXTEND OUR FOCUS AS A NATION TO THE AGRICULTURAL SECTOR RATHER THAN MAJOR IN OIL AND GAS (SUPPORTING) Nigeria in 1958 joined the elite club of oil producing states as a result of the breakthrough in the 50 year sojourn for oil deposits in the Niger Delta region. A development that was expressly greeted with pomp and pageantry, glorious expectations, anticipated prosperity and hope for a remarkable turn-around in the lives of the ordinary citizens. A situation that solely orchestrated the gradual relegation of the once viable agricultural sector to the economic back waters by forcing a crash in agriculture’s 65-70% share of total exports to an abysmal 2% over time. Fast forward 2013, the hope, expectations and anticipations have fast degenerated into anguish, sorrow, mourning, regrets and trepidations. Good evening my erudite panel of Judges, esteemed coordinators, fellow debaters and informed audience. I’m snoopy representing the University of Lagos and inclined to lead credence to the notion that it is better to extend our focus as a nation to the agricultural sector rather than major in oil and gas. Agriculture which is fundamental to every country’s prosperity, security and sovereignty was once a burgeoning venture in Nigeria, laced with prospects and providing employment for about 70% of the population, occasioned by the vast 91 million hectares of Nigeria’s total land area in which 82 million hectares have been found to be arable and having two of Africa’s biggest rivers. A period in which Nigeria attained self-sufficiency in food production, relative stability, politically and economically. Then came the advent of oil and consequently a paradigm shift in the country’s economic outlook: We abandoned our farmers, yields stagnated, investments in infrastructure were redirected, rural communities slid into poverty, we became a food importing country, spending an average of $11bilion a year on wheat, rice, sugar and fish imports alone. With a large and young workforce to support agricultural intensification coupled with 167 million consumers to support increased food production and processing, the economic potentials that dwell within these remarkable statistics cannot be over-emphasized. It is not a hidden fact that Nigeria is presently dangling precariously on the throes of political and economic instability that threatens to tear apart its fabric of existence with accusations and counter accusations from the component parts of the country that has perpetually enshrined a multi-faceted divide among the citizenry, a situation that degenerated to a level in which the region that solely brings home the bacon that currently ensures the economic survival of our country accused another region of being a leech, a situation occasioned by the total economic dependence on that region for the proceeds of its oil and gas. Also a barrage of complaints by the chicken that lays the golden egg of perennial “butt-hurt” and without any recourse to ease the suffering in sight, led to a resistance and consequently armed militancy, causing disruptions in the production of oil and depriving the nation of desperately needed revenue. A concerted and holistic approach to develop the agricultural sector could have mitigated such circumstances and would have contained such tense situations to its barest minimum as each region could have developed its agricultural resources to achieve resource control which can indirectly promote good governance by ensuring a healthy competition among the regions as it was in the 60s and 70s when the western region blossomed on the proceeds from cocoa, the north on groundnuts and the east on palm produce. According to estimates, Nigeria’s oil and gas reserves will dry up in the next 35 years, where do we go from there? Ordinarily we should have started exploring alternatives and given all the available indices, agriculture is strategically positioned to be a commensurate replacement and it will only be wise to shift attention away from oil and gas and pursue agricultural development with maximum tenacity. Nigeria has been an oil and gas producing state for over 50 years with almost nothing to show for it as the advent of oil and gas massively fuelled corruption which has had a deadly effect on the general well-being of Nigerians, denying the citizenry of the improved standard of living that ordinarily proceeds of the oil and gas should bring. The economy of Nigeria for now is more of a literature of controversy than a statistically reliable one. Gross Domestic Products’ (GDP) data usually released by the present government have been superfluous but when interpreted or translated into the livelihood of the ordinary Nigerian, it at best appears to be more of nonsensical economic expression that protects the image of the country in the International scene than a true growth in the economic Nigeria. Hence, I believe it is time for a conscious change in our economic status quo where agriculture needs to be the main focus at the macro and micro level as the benefits will allow for a pragmatic approach to arresting the widespread poverty Nigeria is plagued with. The UN recently recognized Nigeria for meeting the Millennium Development Goal #1, reducing the population of hungry people by half, three years ahead of schedule. We did this by growing more food, raising farm incomes and creating jobs in farming and food processing – not simply by managing poverty. This is a new dawn. Agriculture was Nigeria’s glorious past; and in agriculture – as a business- lies Nigeria’s greater future. Thank you. REFERENCES http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agriculture_in_Nigeria http://www.forbes.com/sites/skollworldforum/2013/10/10/why-agriculture-is-nigerias-new-oil/ http://www.thisdaylive.com/articles/jonathan-nigerias-oil-reserve-may-dry-up-in-35-years/105510/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Nigeria http://premiumtimesng.com/news/138673-nigeria-19-other-countries-cut-population-of-hungry-citizens-by-half-meet-mdg-one-target-fao.html http://ynaija.com/politico/parasites-invaders-and-marauders-asari-dokubo-blasts-north-in-the-video-that-had-everyone-talking-watch/ |
@ fynestboi, my partner is currently having troubles with getting online.....and he request i post his essay for him and he'ld see how he can come around asap for the rebuttals. is that possible? |
Name: SNOOPY Institution: University of Lagos Topic: It is better to extend our focus as a nation to agricultural sector rather than major in oil and gas. Stance: SUPPORTING Position : FIRST SPEAKER |
Fynestboi: should i open the thread for you guys to declare your presence?Are we doing it here or on the debate thread? |
aysuccess99: I trust you boss, you won't disappoint me. You are a great boss o....Lol Na so...best of luck to you guys ![]() |


