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EducationRe: Nairaland Interschool Debate:Winner::: UNILAG by snoopy(m): 7:45pm On Dec 20, 2013
Ayomitide77: Some highways such as Lagos-Ibadan expressway.
The Lagos-ibadan expressway was constructed about 35 years ago, a time when the oil boom was at its peak. My request for an example is in reference to your statement that some projects where embarked upon during the era of Nigerias agro-based economy and stopped due to lack of funds. This is no such example
EducationRe: Nairaland Interschool Debate:Winner::: UNILAG by snoopy(m): 7:38pm On Dec 20, 2013
Ayomitide77: The oil and gas sector has generated enough revenue to make the country well developed but mismanagement of this funds by the governent is stalling the development.
Exactly! The reason why we MUST shift our focus to agriculture.
EducationRe: Nairaland Interschool Debate:Winner::: UNILAG by snoopy(m): 7:38pm On Dec 20, 2013
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EducationRe: Nairaland Interschool Debate:Winner::: UNILAG by snoopy(m): 7:38pm On Dec 20, 2013
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EducationRe: Nairaland Interschool Debate:Winner::: UNILAG by snoopy(m): 7:32pm On Dec 20, 2013
Ayomitide77: There were infrastructures in place before the oil boom and some infrastructure were implemented after the oil boom.But what I meant was that there were already plans for the ones built after the oil boom but lack of fund was the reason it could not be embark upon.
A classical example will go a long way in convincing me sir.
EducationRe: Nairaland Interschool Debate:Winner::: UNILAG by snoopy(m): 7:29pm On Dec 20, 2013
Ayomitide77: [quote author=snoopy]Nigeria has been an oil and gas
producing state for over 50 years with almost nothing to
show for it as the advent of
oil and gas massively fuelled
corruption which has had a
deadly effect on the general
well-being of Nigerians, denying the citizenry of the
improved standard of living
that ordinarily proceeds of
the oil and gas should bring.
[\quote]And how do you think the government has been
running the economy since then.How do you think the
government have been financing tertiary education in
Nigeria?
Kenya which runs an agro-based economy has universities that rank higher than that of Nigeria's that runs a primarily petroleum-based economy. My point is with oil and gas, we ought to be doing better as a nation but instead, it has proven to only benefit the minority ruling class and hence a required focus on agriculture for a pragmatic solution to the poverty that abounds in the land.
EducationRe: Nairaland Interschool Debate:Winner::: UNILAG by snoopy(m): 7:20pm On Dec 20, 2013
Ayomitide77: Source please?
kindly refer to my references
EducationRe: Nairaland Interschool Debate:Winner::: UNILAG by snoopy(m): 7:19pm On Dec 20, 2013
Ayomitide77: Hmmmm.....I agree that most of the infrastructural development started before the oil boom,but lack of funds to implement it was the reason why most of the infrastructure was at standstill before the oil sector intervened.
Your statement is highly contradictory sir. You agreed infrastructural development started before the oil boom and they stated that infrastructural development wasn't implemented due to lack of funds....it is also pertinent to note that MOST of the basic infrastructure was built BEFORE the oil boom and NOT after. Our top universities were built and nutured to world class standards with proceeds from agriculture before neglect set in...most of the basic institutions were also built with such proceeds and the same government has failed to maintain these infrastructure with current proceeds from oil so i fail to understand your argument sir.
EducationRe: Nairaland Interschool Debate:Winner::: UNILAG by snoopy(m): 7:11pm On Dec 20, 2013
Miscellaneous: continue puncturing opponents' argument.

puncture hard!
2 against 1 sad
EducationRe: Nairaland Interschool Debate:Winner::: UNILAG by snoopy(m): 7:09pm On Dec 20, 2013
gbemmie09: Sectors that deals with daily offering of goods and services to Nigerians, and who depend solely on natural gas, petrol, kerosene etc.
Our gas, petrol and kerosene are majorly imported my dear. How do you categorise what you import as an investment?
EducationRe: Nairaland Interschool Debate:Winner::: UNILAG by snoopy(m): 7:05pm On Dec 20, 2013
Ayomitide77: What about Agip,Chevron,Mobil and the rest.
They don't operate refineries in Nigeria sir plus these oil majors have in recent times been reluctant to pursue new investments in Nigeria due to security concerns
EducationRe: Nairaland Interschool Debate:Winner::: UNILAG by snoopy(m): 7:03pm On Dec 20, 2013
Ayomitide77: saharareporters.com/report/looting-nigeria-big-oil’s-140-billion-year-and-counting-thomas-c-mountain?page=2
"Page not found" .....a reliable source will be most appreciated
EducationRe: Nairaland Interschool Debate:Winner::: UNILAG by snoopy(m): 7:00pm On Dec 20, 2013
Ayotimide77: [quote author=snoopy]We
abandoned our farmers,
yields stagnated, investments in
infrastructure were
redirected, rural
communities slid into
poverty, we became a
food importing country,
spending an average of $
11bilion a year on wheat, rice,
sugar and fish imports alone.[\quote]Please explain how
investments in infrastructure were redirected when it has
been proven to have developed over the years.
Investments to fulfil the joint venture obligation of Nigeria with the oil majors, infrastructural development didn't particularly start during the oil boom era, most of the infrastructure where already in place, developed with the proceeds from agriculture.
EducationRe: Nairaland Interschool Debate:Winner::: UNILAG by snoopy(m): 6:50pm On Dec 20, 2013
gbemmie09: The oil sector is the major force in which foreign investors are coming into the country, this serve as a tool for other sectors boom.
Again what sectors of the economy are these investments coming in? and i will appreciate some examples as well because these claims appear to be vague
EducationRe: Nairaland Interschool Debate:Winner::: UNILAG by snoopy(m):
Ayomitide77: In many aspects such as the refining of oil.A good example is the refinery bought by Alhaji Aliko Dangote.
Dangote's investments in refining cannot expressely be regarded as "foreign investment" as your partner stated
EducationRe: Nairaland Interschool Debate:Winner::: UNILAG by snoopy(m): 6:40pm On Dec 20, 2013
gbemmie09: The figures are not bogus, it should be noted that we have those drilling the oil well as well as those supervising them.
And those drilling the oil as well as their supervisors make up the 1 million figure? A reference will most certainly be appreciated to substantiate the veracity of your claims
EducationRe: Nairaland Interschool Debate:Winner::: UNILAG by snoopy(m): 6:34pm On Dec 20, 2013
Ayotimide77: [quote author=snoopy]Fast forward 2013, the hope,
expectations and
anticipations have fast
degenerated into anguish, sorrow, mourning, regrets
and trepidations.[\quote]Please can you explain this
sentence better.
It simply mean when oil was discovered as far back as 1956, Nigerians expected their lives to change as a result of this but instead the same oil that's supposed to have been a catalyst for development is now a source of pain, anger and resentment...a situation in which economists refer to as the "resource curse"
EducationRe: Nairaland Interschool Debate:Winner::: UNILAG by snoopy(m): 6:24pm On Dec 20, 2013
gbemmie09: It has also helped in positive economic
growth and development since the oil
revenue constitute the bulk of the
government income right from 1970s,
noticeable projects and investments
have been carried out successfully with
the revenue. This is evident in the rapid
increase in the economy's wealth of
infrastructural facilities and amenities
within the period of oil boom. Revenue
from the oil in the 1970s formed the
catalytic substantially the height of
development of the Nigeria economy.
Thus, it was during the period that
Nigeria was decorated with the
accolade "THE GIANT OF AFRICA
these "beautiful" statistics will appear to the ordinary man on the street as a disrespect to his sensibilities, as these are self-serving indices that has only benefited the ruling class and has not translated to a better life for the ordinary citizens, how do you reconcile that ma'am?
EducationRe: Nairaland Interschool Debate:Winner::: UNILAG by snoopy(m): 6:23pm On Dec 20, 2013
gbemmie09: There had
been a remarkable increase in the
foreign investment and this is made
possible by the oil wealth. This foreign
investment have however, provided
employment for Nigerians, created
goods and services in the economy and
stimulated the growth of subsidiary
firms.
in what aspect of the economy are these "investments" because if you are referring to the oil industry, dominant players like shell are actually divesting their assets in Nigeria as a result of the immense corruption that abound in the system.
http://businessdayonline.com/2013/10/oil-blocks-divestment-shell-sends-document-to-prospective-buyers/
EducationRe: Nairaland Interschool Debate:Winner::: UNILAG by snoopy(m): 6:23pm On Dec 20, 2013
gbemmie09: As stated by Egbuna (1989), the entire
corporate workforce of NNPC has grown
to about 18000 people spanning
through their major areas of activities
nation wide. Although this number is
considered large for a single
cooperation. It is even infirmitesimal
when one imagines the up to one million
Nigerians who are directly or indirectly
earning their living from the activities in
the petroleum sector of the economy

from the upstream to the downstream
sector I.e from exploration to drilling
and refining down to distribution
marking of the product.
1 million? that figure is bogus and highly questionable ma'am, even to the most ignorant Nigerian, do you by any chance have any references to establish the credibility of these figures?
EducationRe: Nairaland Interschool Debate:Winner::: UNILAG by snoopy(m): 5:19pm On Dec 20, 2013
damosky: IT IS BETTER TO EXTEND OUR FOCUS AS A NATION TO THE AGRICULTURAL SECTOR RATHER THAN MAJOR IN OIL AND GAS (SUPPORTING)



According to the Central Bank of Nigeria’s data (2003), Oil still accounts for our major revenue (gearing towards 80%) and almost 100% of our export earnings. Although Agriculture (particularly forestry, livestock and fishing) is shown to serve as the major activity of the majority of Nigerians; it is clear that we indulge in agriculture purely as personal survival strategies rather than as a calculated effort to warming the engine of our countries economy. This is really where our National economic problem lies.


As a well brought up Yoruba boy it would be bad of me not to give honour to whom is due by saying good day distinguish panel of judges, wonderful coordinators, fellow debaters, very informed audience, ladies and gentlemen, I am damoskiy representing the University of Lagos.


The gospel of economic salvation cannot be preached without due regard to agricultural development. Agriculture is the major and most certain path to economic growth and sustainability. It encompasses all aspect of human activities - being the art, act, a cultural necessity and science of production of goods through cultivation of land and management of plants and animals which creates an activity web-chain that satisfies social and economic needs. Agriculture is the mainstay of mankind; therefore wise nations all over the globe give it a priority by developing and exploiting this sector for the upkeep of their teeming populations through the earning of revenue for development purposes; as well as employment for the stemming down crimes, corruption and other forms of indiscipline which work against all factors of life, living and most of all economic production. While many nations in the world are working hard and reaping their harvests in this direction, Nigeria happens to belong among the few that have greatly retarded from their past glorious heights in agriculture, down to a near zero scale of agricultural production.


With an expansive landmass covering 923.771km2, an estimated arable land of about 68 million hectare; abundance of natural forest and rangeland covering 37 million hectares. Varieties of livestock and wide life, an agricultural friendly climate, coastal and marine resources of over 960km shoreline, expansive rivers and lakes covering 120,000 square kilometer and large consumer market as depicted by National population of over 150 million in 2006 (now estimated to be about 200million). Large regional and continental markets, as well as the ever increasing world market exist for the reaping of the potentials that agriculture can offer any economy. Nigeria has great agricultural potentials that will outpace oil and gas on the long run. That notwithstanding, the country has had a history of agricultural prowess in the past, so, if it could work then, it surely will work better now, if judiciously and positively articulated. This is only possible if our oil-misdirected governments can start looking inwardly for other sources of revenue other than oil with an honest bid to boost agricultural production.


The importance of Agriculture cannot generally be over-emphasized in Nigeria. With poverty having finally taken resident permit in Nigeria in - although we were warned against it by Professor Pat Utomi in 2003, we cannot get out of it today by just relying on oil and gas. We cannot pretend to neglect the importance of Agriculture in the economic forward-wheeling of our nation.
Nigeria is blessed with a wide variety of agricultural potentials, ranging from varieties of crops to varieties of animals and plants and natural agricultural-supportive factors like forests, waters, sands and most of all human resources that are being under-used. We have it all, yet we lack it all; and that is why we are hungry in the face of plenty to eat.


As a protagonist of agricultural development, I believe that Nigeria’s economic development can only be realistic through the total resuscitation of our agricultural sector. This will propel the sector to produce food and fibres to feed our people and the industry at a rate faster than the birth-rate; yet reducing the death rate. The injection of vigour into the agricultural sector will also fasten the creation of self-reliance, self-contentment and self-sufficiency (which will be translated to National sufficiency). Adequate supply of raw materials for industries, increased foreign reserve; and increase in the export of non-oil commodities and improvement in the standard of living of the masses are issues that a revitalised agricultural system can provide. This will encourage the growth of a physically fit and mentally alert population. Succinctly put, the development of the agricultural sector will generally improve the revenue generation of our nation and discourage our over-reliance on oil and gas which has created a ‘Dutch disease’ for the Nigerian economy. The economic independence which the agricultural sector can offer this nation (if developed) will undoubtedly propel us to political and economic independence, which we cannot truly boast of today as a debtor and borrower nation. Rural and urban development, rural and urban employment; and of course the control of urban migration and general development of other sectors of the economy will be the positive chain reactions of an improved Agricultural sector. All these can only be possible if the Federal government can increase its budgetary allocation to agriculture to a reasonable level in order to aid adequate research in the sector as well as enhance production, education and general management of the sector. This will boost the food and science technology industry, the chemical industry, banking / finance industry, the export business, the agro-franchise and industries; and even enhance the Federal government’s policy on National Poverty Eradication Programme (NAPEP).


Our government is still suffering from this “Jonah Complex” which has made it unthinkable for it to embrace agriculture as a true solution to our economic death. The government should embrace Agriculture with more confidence because good agricultural policies and implementation still is the only “big fish” that can transport our economy to the path of recovery and boom. Thank you for reading.



REFERENCES
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Nigeria
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agriculture_in_Nigeria
http://www.gamji.com/article4000/NEWS4400.htm
EducationRe: Nairaland Interschool Debate:Winner::: UNILAG by snoopy(m):
IT IS BETTER TO EXTEND OUR FOCUS AS A NATION TO THE AGRICULTURAL SECTOR RATHER THAN MAJOR IN OIL AND GAS (SUPPORTING)


Nigeria in 1958 joined the elite club of oil producing states as a result of the breakthrough in the 50 year sojourn for oil deposits in the Niger Delta region. A development that was expressly greeted with pomp and pageantry, glorious expectations, anticipated prosperity and hope for a remarkable turn-around in the lives of the ordinary citizens. A situation that solely orchestrated the gradual relegation of the once viable agricultural sector to the economic back waters by forcing a crash in agriculture’s 65-70% share of total exports to an abysmal 2% over time. Fast forward 2013, the hope, expectations and anticipations have fast degenerated into anguish, sorrow, mourning, regrets and trepidations.


Good evening my erudite panel of Judges, esteemed coordinators, fellow debaters and informed audience. I’m snoopy representing the University of Lagos and inclined to lead credence to the notion that it is better to extend our focus as a nation to the agricultural sector rather than major in oil and gas.


Agriculture which is fundamental to every country’s prosperity, security and sovereignty was once a burgeoning venture in Nigeria, laced with prospects and providing employment for about 70% of the population, occasioned by the vast 91 million hectares of Nigeria’s total land area in which 82 million hectares have been found to be arable and having two of Africa’s biggest rivers. A period in which Nigeria attained self-sufficiency in food production, relative stability, politically and economically. Then came the advent of oil and consequently a paradigm shift in the country’s economic outlook: We abandoned our farmers, yields stagnated, investments in infrastructure were redirected, rural communities slid into poverty, we became a food importing country, spending an average of $11bilion a year on wheat, rice, sugar and fish imports alone. With a large and young workforce to support agricultural intensification coupled with 167 million consumers to support increased food production and processing, the economic potentials that dwell within these remarkable statistics cannot be over-emphasized.


It is not a hidden fact that Nigeria is presently dangling precariously on the throes of political and economic instability that threatens to tear apart its fabric of existence with accusations and counter accusations from the component parts of the country that has perpetually enshrined a multi-faceted divide among the citizenry, a situation that degenerated to a level in which the region that solely brings home the bacon that currently ensures the economic survival of our country accused another region of being a leech, a situation occasioned by the total economic dependence on that region for the proceeds of its oil and gas. Also a barrage of complaints by the chicken that lays the golden egg of perennial “butt-hurt” and without any recourse to ease the suffering in sight, led to a resistance and consequently armed militancy, causing disruptions in the production of oil and depriving the nation of desperately needed revenue. A concerted and holistic approach to develop the agricultural sector could have mitigated such circumstances and would have contained such tense situations to its barest minimum as each region could have developed its agricultural resources to achieve resource control which can indirectly promote good governance by ensuring a healthy competition among the regions as it was in the 60s and 70s when the western region blossomed on the proceeds from cocoa, the north on groundnuts and the east on palm produce.


According to estimates, Nigeria’s oil and gas reserves will dry up in the next 35 years, where do we go from there? Ordinarily we should have started exploring alternatives and given all the available indices, agriculture is strategically positioned to be a commensurate replacement and it will only be wise to shift attention away from oil and gas and pursue agricultural development with maximum tenacity.


Nigeria has been an oil and gas producing state for over 50 years with almost nothing to show for it as the advent of oil and gas massively fuelled corruption which has had a deadly effect on the general well-being of Nigerians, denying the citizenry of the improved standard of living that ordinarily proceeds of the oil and gas should bring. The economy of Nigeria for now is more of a literature of controversy than a statistically reliable one. Gross Domestic Products’ (GDP) data usually released by the present government have been superfluous but when interpreted or translated into the livelihood of the ordinary Nigerian, it at best appears to be more of nonsensical economic expression that protects the image of the country in the International scene than a true growth in the economic Nigeria. Hence, I believe it is time for a conscious change in our economic status quo where agriculture needs to be the main focus at the macro and micro level as the benefits will allow for a pragmatic approach to arresting the widespread poverty Nigeria is plagued with.


The UN recently recognized Nigeria for meeting the Millennium Development Goal #1, reducing the population of hungry people by half, three years ahead of schedule. We did this by growing more food, raising farm incomes and creating jobs in farming and food processing – not simply by managing poverty. This is a new dawn. Agriculture was Nigeria’s glorious past; and in agriculture – as a business- lies Nigeria’s greater future.


Thank you.


REFERENCES
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agriculture_in_Nigeria
http://www.forbes.com/sites/skollworldforum/2013/10/10/why-agriculture-is-nigerias-new-oil/
http://www.thisdaylive.com/articles/jonathan-nigerias-oil-reserve-may-dry-up-in-35-years/105510/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Nigeria
http://premiumtimesng.com/news/138673-nigeria-19-other-countries-cut-population-of-hungry-citizens-by-half-meet-mdg-one-target-fao.html
http://ynaija.com/politico/parasites-invaders-and-marauders-asari-dokubo-blasts-north-in-the-video-that-had-everyone-talking-watch/
EducationRe: Nairaland Interschool Debate. :::Planning Thread by snoopy(m): 4:49pm On Dec 20, 2013
@ fynestboi, my partner is currently having troubles with getting online.....and he request i post his essay for him and he'ld see how he can come around asap for the rebuttals. is that possible?
EducationRe: Nairaland Interschool Debate:Winner::: UNILAG by snoopy(m): 1:48pm On Dec 20, 2013
Name: SNOOPY
Institution: University of Lagos
Topic: It is better to extend our
focus as a nation to agricultural sector rather than
major in oil and gas.
Stance: SUPPORTING
Position : FIRST SPEAKER
EducationRe: Nairaland Interschool Debate. :::Planning Thread by snoopy(m): 1:27pm On Dec 20, 2013
Fynestboi: should i open the thread for you guys to declare your presence?
Are we doing it here or on the debate thread?
EducationRe: Nairaland Interschool Debate. :::Planning Thread by snoopy(m): 12:52pm On Dec 20, 2013
aysuccess99: I trust you boss, you won't disappoint me. You are a great boss o....
Let me use this medium to make a shoutout to the AKOKITES and the AKUNGBAITES. BEST OF LUCK TO YOU GUYS O.
I can't wait to see the essays of: GBEMI AND AYOMITIDE and that of SNOOPY AND DAMOSKY.
Lol Na so...best of luck to you guys wink
EducationRe: Nairaland University Of Lagos Student Chat Room by snoopy(m): 7:20pm On Dec 16, 2013
mykhell50: hehehe...i dey mariere too
Room no.?
EducationRe: Nairaland Interschool Debate. :::Planning Thread by snoopy(m): 9:40pm On Dec 14, 2013
Fynestboi: [size=20pt]which do you agree with to start this stage next week or next year...?? [/size]
I think next week would make more sense cosidering the fact that when school resumes next year, the schedule would definitely be tight.
EducationRe: Nairaland Interschool Debate. :::Planning Thread by snoopy(m):
Capital NO!
EducationRe: Nairaland Interschool Debate. :::Planning Thread by snoopy(m): 2:30pm On Dec 14, 2013
Fynestboi: [size=20pt] GROUP A
A1 (SUPPORTING)
A2(SUPPORTING)
A3 (OPPOSING)
A4 (OPPOSING)

A1 VS A3
A2 VS A4

[/size]
Why don't we have an overview showing all groups, their respective teams and the fixed matches? Having to be checking back and forth whose A1, D3, B2 etc can be a bit draining sad
EducationRe: Nairaland Interschool Debate. :::Planning Thread by snoopy(m): 2:22pm On Dec 14, 2013
Fynestboi: [size=20pt] IF YOU SUPPORT THIS IDEA PLEASE SIGNIFY...[/size]
Its a very good idea and I would have supported it but for time and logistics constraints. It would stretch the time of the entire competition and as a result could make it too tedious and some may gradually lose the drive and enthusiasm.
EducationRe: Unilag Campus Pics by snoopy(m): 12:52pm On Dec 14, 2013
I believe the OP probably due to dearth of enough graphical images didn't do enough justice to show Unilag. Where is the main auditorium building, where is the faculty of engineering buildings with its courtyards and greenery, where is the faculty of sciences (which is about the best building in the school in my opinion and understanding as an architect), the beautiful scenery of the lagoon front? a better and more interesting view of the senate would have been better appreciated plus a view of the new GT bank building will also shed more light on the beauty of the campus and also the julius berger hall? OP u no try mehn..

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