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[quote author=Youngtekkey][/quote]I SEE THE POINT ASIWAJU IS TRYIMG TO MAKE HERE. MAY BE THE MEMBERS OF THE EKITI CAUCUS SHOULD COOL TEMPER IF THERE IS AN ONGOING RECONCILATION EFFORT.. THEY HAVE MADE THEIR POINT LOUD AND CLEAR . BAMIDELE DOES NOT HAVE THEIR SUPPORT. THEY ARE THE ONES YOU MADE HIM THE CHAIRMAN OF THEIR SIX MAN CAUCUS AND IF THEY WISH THEY CAN REMOVE HIM AS THE CHAORMAN OF THEIR CAUCUS. CONTRARY TO SOME MISLEADING POSTS HERE, BAMIDELE WAS NOT REMOVED BY THE PARTY AND THE PARTY IS NOT EVEN AWARE OF THIS. HE WAS REMOVED AS THE CHAIRMAN OF THE EKI TI FORUM BY THE OTHER FIVE MEMBERS OF THE FORUM AS THEIR CHAIRMAN. IT IS ALSO8 THEIR D2DEMOCRATIC RIGHT TO DO SO.
AS FOR BAM8DELE, SINCE HE HAS FORMALLY DECLARED HIS INTENTION TO RUN AND HE DOES'NT ENJOY THE SUPPORT OF THE MEMBERS OF THE FORUM,, HE SHOULD STEP DOWN AS THE CHAIRMAN.

Afam4eva: So, it's chieftains that now determine who becomes what? You have no shame by espousing this meager dispositions. It's shameful.

THE REAL PARALLEL TO COMPARE IS THIS: AKPAB8O AS THE CHAIRMAN OF PDP GOVERNOR'S FORUM WANTS TO CONTEST FOR THE PRESIDENCY WHEN ALL THE MEMBERS OF THE FORUM ARE FOR JONATHAN. WHAT DO EEPWCT THE MEMBERS OF THE FORUM TO DO? THE LOGICAL THING TO DO TAKE STEP TO DISTAMCE TJEMSELVES AND INDICATE THEIR THAT HE DOES NOT HAVE THEIR SUPPORT. BACKFIELD HAS DECLARED HIS INTENTION TO CONTEST FOR GOVERNORSHIP AND NO ONE DENIES HIM HIS DEMOCRATIC RIGJT. TJE FIVE OTHER MEMBERS OF THE SIX MEMBER FORUM ARE SIMPLY EXERCISING THEIR DEM8CRATIC RIGHT AS WELL.
ANY TALK OF A PARALLEL BETWEEN THIS AND THE AMAECJI CASE IS NONSENSE.
OF COURSE THE CHIEFTAIN OF A PARTY HAVE A SAY IN WHO BECOMES THE CANDIDATE BECAUSE THEY CAN SWAY THE OPINION OF MAJORITY OF THE RANK AND FILE.

homesteady: Keep quiet my friend!! You are so shameless!! So disgusting!! GOSH!! Is this not the same issue that happened in PDP and you vultures were complaining?? You guys were shouting that GEJ is a tyrant and dictator!! Now because it is happening on APC, it is now good!!! SMH!!
Blogger werrava, just stop commenting on NL!! Because you now look FOOLISH!!

EKITI HAS SIX REPS IN THE HOUSE OF WHICH BAMIDELE IS THE CHAIRMAN. THEY 'RE IDED THEY DON'T WANT HIM TO BE THEIR CHAIRMAN BROS THEY DO NOT SUPPORT HIS GOVERNORSHIP ASPIRATION BECAUSE THEY DO NOT WANT FO BE ASSOCIATED WITH IT.
THE DIFFRENCE HERE IS THAT THE FIVE REPS HAVE EXERCISED THEIR EEMOCRATIC RIGHT. BAM8DELE CAN STILL GO AHEAD TO VIE FOR THE GOVERNORSHIP IF HE IS CONVINCED OF HIS OWN POPULARITY. HIS PEERS IN THE NATIONAL ASSEMBLY JUST WANTS TO DISTANCE THEIR CAUCUS FROM HIS ASPIRATION BECAUSE THEY DO NOT SUPPORT IT. PERI9D

Afam4eva: You miss the point. I never said PDP was a party of saints. I'm only highlighting the fact that ACN/APC is just as guilty as PDP. Besides, PDP is not a one-man party but Tinubu has proven beyond reasonable doubt that he has ACN and it's territory in his palm and the recent appointment of his daughter as the Iyaloja of Lagos is a testament of this.

IS THE POSITION OF IYALOJA POLITICAL? YOU SEEMS TO BE SO OBSESSED WITH TINUBU. IS TINUBU THE ONLY ONE IN APC? IF TINUBU HAS HIS TERRITORY IN HIS PALM AFTER LEAVING GOVERNMENT AS A GOVERNOR SIX YEARS AGO HOW COME OBASANJO COULD NOT HAVE THE SAME TERRITORY IN HIS PALM AFTER BEING PRESIDENT FOR EIGHT YEARS? IF IT THAT EASY. IF I WAS YOU, I WILL FOCUS ON DEFENDING JONATHAN AND NOT TRY TO ADVANCE THE ARGUMENT THAT JONATHAN OR PDP IS GOOD BECAUSE TINUBU IS BAD. EVEN IF TINUBU IS BAD DOES THAT MEAN I MUST SUPPPRT JONATHAN OR PDP.? DDOES IT SUDDENLY MAKE PDP AND JONATHAN LESS INCONPETENT?. .

Afam4eva: The only opposition that i will support is an ideological opposition which as it stands now is individual and not collective. With the actions of the principal officers of APC, i have reasons to believe that they will be worse than PDP. But it still depends on who they present in 2015 but due to the lack of internal democracy in the party, i won't hold my breadth.

MY MAN AM COMPLETELY NEW TO THIS FORUM AND YOU HAVE ALREADY MADE ME TO START FORMING AN OPINION THAT YOU 100 PERCENT IN SUPPORT OF JONATHAN . HOW CAN YOU NOW SAY YOU WILL EVER CONSIDER ANY CANDIDATE OF APC . OF COURSE ONLY IF PDP DO NOT PRESENT JONATHAN. I FEEL FOR YOU. YOU DON'T LIKE PDP BUT YOU LOVE JONATHAN SO YOU HAVE TO DEFEND PDP IN ORDER TO DEFEND JONATHAN. I DON'T ENVY MOST OF YOU GUYS BECAUSE PDP RECPRDS OF THE PAST 14 YEARS IS TRULY INDEFENSIBLE

Gbawe: Your own opinion and you are welcomed to it. The classy thing to do would be to leave others to exercise their right to freedom of association without you hanging around as a prophet of doom. You have said what you think. No need to remain here repeating the same thing like a broken record.

What I know is that APC supporters are miles ahead of the PDP supporters here in terms of unity, intelligence, passion for their cause, detribalized mien and organisational ability. The good thing is that a gathering of APC supporters on NL automatically excludes the biggest irritants, most clannish twerps, dullest minds and most irredeemably bigoted and prejudiced characters here. That is a good start I am personally thankful for.

Supporters are like their political Parties and I know PDP supporters here will never get organised as APC supporters can because most of them simply follow individuals/ethnic groups/religion and not the fundamental idea of getting behind a team of Nigerian 'good guys' who, regardless of their ethnic/religious background, can occupy the most influential offices and make them work together to take Nigeria where she needs to go.

I will certainly help out Jarus anyway I can because I know the support of the PDP here is largely clannish, ethnocentric and not ideologically/intellectually driven. I can bet, if Seun has no objections, it will be the Jarus APC effort that will see Nairaland progressively hosting Ribadu, El Rufai, Aregbesola et al here and doing ground-breaking things while PDP/GEJ fans will only engage in politic of rancour, insults and pettiness. Guy, you say "dead on arrival", I say let us all "enjoy the ride".

IF JONATHAN LEAVES PEP TODAY THE MOSTLY SS/SE SUPPORT BASE WILL DISAPPEAR IMMEDIATELY. MOST OF THEM , FROM WHAT I SEE ACTUALLY DON'T LIKE PDP BUT HAD 4O because OF THEIR ETHINC AFFINITY TO THEIR BROTHER JOMATHAN. THAT IS WHY THEIR LINE OF ARGUMENTS IS THAT JONATHAN CAN NOT FIX THE PROBLEM IN THREE YEARS EVEN WHEN PEP HAS BEEN IN GOVERNMENT FOR THE PAST 14 YEARS!!!

Afam4eva: I must really praise the tenacity of APC. They have one of the most avid publicists which makes it seem like the party is gaining ground immensely but that's not the case. I see APC doing better than the last time(ACN, CPC etc) but it won't be enough to oust PDP. But i hope PDP is ousted but not by APC. As it stands there's no credible alternative to PDP. ACN and PDP are one and the same.

NOW I SEE WHERE YOU ARE COMING FROM. SINCE THERE IS NO ALTERNATIVE TO PD P WE SHOULD'NT EVER TRY ANY ALTERNATIVE. WE ARE STUCK FOR EVER. I AM CURIOUS. WHY ARE U AFRAID OF CHOICE? IS'NT VARIETY THE SPICE OF LIFE?

tomakint: Why are you personalizing this debate in your usual manners? I stated my position in my other reply to you by saying PDP is ACN or APC the more reason I gave those names my concern is the good job Jonathan is currently doing and the solid foundation he is laying which you guys cannot see now! As for your clownish questions, I say to you, where were you when your funky mallam lords were busy sharing the oil wells among themselves shortly after the civil war? Where were you when Shagari was busy wasting billions of our money among his cronies? where were you when IBB was institutionalizing corruption in an unprecedented manner? Where were you when Obj was enriching his cronies through bogus contracts and unnecessary creations of agencies? Where were you when Tinubu was siphoning tax payers monies to build mansions, hotels all around Lagos? Where were you when the same Tinubu made her daughter the new Iyaloja under a democratic setting? Where were you when kuforiji, an ACN speaker of Lagos House of Assembly was alleged to have defrauded to the tunes of billions of naira? Many more questions for you but let me stop there! Unfortunately, you expect Jonathan to lift Nigeria up within 3 years from this perennial mess we have been over the years! You must be a huge joke! Sail on with your APC, I wish you safe journey!

YOU ASSERT THAT TINUBU WAS SIPHONING TAX PAYERS MONEY TO BUILD MANSIONS WITHOUT ANY PROOF BUT HOW D8 YOU FEEL IF I SAY JONATHAN HAS STOLEN OVER 4 BILLION DOLLARS IN THE PAST THREE YEARS OF HIS PRESIDENCY. ANY ONE CAN MAKE WILD ALLEGATIONS .BUT ONATHAN HONESTLY IS PROBABLY ONE 8F THE MOST INCOMPETENT AND WORST LEADERS WE HAVE HAD THE MISFORTUNE TO HAVE IN THIS COUNTRY. I SAY THIS B3CAUSE A N INCONSISTENT LEADER TAKES AND REVERSES DECISION LIKE A CANDLE IN THE WIND. ON FOUNDATION LAYING, YOU MEAN AFTER 14 YEARS OF PDP BEING IN POWER , FOUNDATION IS STILL BEING LAYED?!!

COUNT ME IN. IF I DONT LIKE MTN FOR ANY REASON WHATSOEVER, I CAN SWITCH TO GLOBAL COM. THIS FACT MADE SURE NEITHER MTN OR GLOCOM CAN TAKE ANY ONE FOR GRANTED.. FOR EXAMPLE, MTN ONCE SAID PER SECONDS BILLING IS NOT POSSIBLE THEN GLOBALCOM CAME AND PER SECONDS BILLING BECAME POSSSIBLE. THE POWER OF CHOICE FOR YOU. AS FOR IDEOLOGY , WE CANEVOLVE TO THAT LATER. FOR NOW: LET'S J6ST HAVE ANOTHER BIG PARTY.

THIS IS VERY GOOD NEWS. EVEN IF THEY ARE ALL THE SAME, IT IS GOOD TO HAVE CHOICE. LIKE MTN AND GLO!

As far as. Jonathan's supporters on Naira land are concerned. , every northerner and every Muslim is a. Terrorist . I don't know if every southsouth person is a militant.