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DonCaleb: May ur family be united under the bridge by 3am: say amen! You fool!IT CANNOT HAPPEN. HIS STATE GOVERNMEMT WOULD NOT HAVE ACTED SO IRRESPONSIBLY LIKE YOUR GO ERNMEMT DID. LAGOS STATE WENT TO AKWA IBOM PRONTO TO GET THEIR DESTITUTE REUNITED WITH THEIR FAMILIES. AS UNFORTUNATE AS THE 3 AM MATTER IS IT WAS CAUSED BY THE CALLOUSNESS AND INCOMPETENCE OF THE ANAMBRA STATE GOVERNMENT. |
talktimi: you have a point there but it still begs a question which has always been the crux of my argument ever since this debacle started. Is it proper to drop people by the side of the road at 3am in the morning & leave them to their fate ? Bear in mind that most of the deportees were not even Anambra indigents...AND YOU ALSO HAVE A POINT THERE BUT IT STILL BEGS A QUESTION WHICH HAS ALWAYS BEING THE CRUX OTHER MOST OBJECTIVE OBSERVERS ARGUMENT SINCE THIS ISSUE CAME UP: WHY DID ANAMBRA STATE NOT RESPOND TO THE REQUEST TO COME FORWARD, IDENTIFY AND TOOK CARE OF THEIR PEOPLE WHEN THEY WERE NOTIFIED FOUR MONTHS AGO? |
specco: This is surely a mutually agreed damage control deal between lagos and osun states in other to douse tension that arose from the illegal deportation of Ndigbo lately. Such more deportations of some 'brotherly' indigenes of ogun, oyo, ekiti and even Edo states will soon be horridly put together to fool us the more.THE TRANSFERS PREVOIUS TO THIS IS ALSO PREARRANGED? I THINK YOU DON'T UNDDERSTAND THE MEANING OF THE WORD PRE-ARRANGED OR YOUR MINDSET WOULD NOT ALLOW YOU TO ACCEPT EVIDENTIAL TRUTH. |
free2ryhme: reunite has become another name for RepatriationTHAT IS BECAUSE YOU PROBABLY DO NOT UNDERSTAND THE PROPER MEANING OF THE WORDS. |
payless: You can't operate in Ladipo if you can't respect the sanitation code or order of the state. At least Fashola appointed many Igbos to work as commissioners. Did any Igbo Governor do that? Those commissioners who work for Fashola love him and still with him today. They would have left if Fashola was racist as few Igbos make us to believe.HONESTLY I REALLY, I DON'T CARE WHETHER ANAMBRARIANS VOTE NGIGE OR SOLUDO..ANAMBRA IS YOUR STATE. I HAVE NEVER BEEN THERE AND I AM NOT SURE I WILL EVER BE THERE. MY OWN IS DEVELOP YOUR STATES AND REGION . CHARITY BEGINS AT HOME. YOUR OWN WILL ALWAYS BE YOUR 9WN. |
[quote author=one.east]Anambra has maintained steady growth. Onitsha the economic hub of the east is cleaned up with brand new infrastructures, Nnewi is equally getting attention as manufacturing capital of Nigeria. Lagos on the other with all the borrowed funds and allocation has not changed a bit. The last we checked it is still the dirtiest, most disorganized, agbero infested and most unlivable city in the whole world- UN-Habitat. That is APC example. Can you beat that. Lmao[/quote]WHAT? LAGOS HAS NOT CHANGED A BIT. YOU ARE RIGHT.!! |
nku5: Only thing is I don't have much confidence in Soludo's love for IMF style textbook policies. The last thing we need are concessions and tolled roads. A major stepping stone for him would be to win over the traders by involving them in his blueprint for the state as stakeholders. He would sweep onitsha for sure if he did that.AS A NON ANAMBRIAN READING THROUGH THE CONTRIBUTIONS ON THIS THREAD, MY MAIN QUESTION IS HOW DO SOLUDO PLAN TO GENERATE THE FUNDS TO CARRY OUT THIS PROGRAMMES? I KNOW FOR A FACT THAT FOR HIM TO CARRY OUT 10 PERCENT OF THE LAUDABLE PROJECTS HE ENUMERATED HE NEEDS NOTHING LESS THAN 15 BILLION MONTHLY IGR. WHAT ARE SOLUDO PLANS TO INCREASE ANAMBRA'S INTERNALLY GENERATED REVENUE AND WHAT ARE HIS REVENUE TARGETS FOR EACH YEAR OF HIS TENURE. UNLESS I SEE IT, FORGIVE ME, THE MANIFESTO IS JUST PLENTY OF GRAMMAR. TO ME. AS FOR YOU GUYS, AS FAR AS I CAN SEETHAT YOU ARE EXCITED ABOUT SOLUDO, PLEASE DONT SHY AWAY FROM ASKING THE DIFFICULT QUESTIONS. SENTIMENTS NEVER GETS ANYTHING DONE. MEANWHILE I WISH SOLUDO THE BEST OF LUCK. |
[quote author=Chris-OD]I wish Fasola will still be governor of Eko ti baje State when Soludo will be that of Anambra. So Soludo will show that neck cancer-infested barbarian how to run a state.[/quote]HOW OBSESSIVE OF FASHOLA CAN YOU PEOPLE BE. IN A DISCUSSION ABOUT ANAMBRA YOU STILL CAMT HELP BUT TALK ABOUT FASHOLA. INFERIORITY COMPLEX. |
PointB: First of, please learn how to type in online forum. All caps beside being difficult to read, is also consider as shouting.FIRST, BECAUSE I SEND THESE MESSAGES ON MY IPAD, I FOUND THAT USING ALL CAPS IS MOST CONVENIENT.PLEASE FORGIVE ME AND ACCEPT ME FOR IT FOR NOW. ALSO BE ASSURED AM NOT SHOUTING. WE ARE JUST DISCUSSING. HERE IS MY RESPONSE NIGERIA IS ALSO A COUNTRY WITH THE RULE OF LAW OR ELSE FREEDOM WOULD LEAD TO ANARCHY. UNLESS WE WANT TO DECEIVE OURSELVES, OR WE WANT TO SOUND NAIVELY IDEALISTIC, GOVERNMENT CANNOT LIFT EVERY CITIZEN OUT OF POVERTY AND LIKE YOU RIGHTLY POINTED OUT THE BASIC SOCIAL SECURITY SYSTEM WE HAVE IN OUR CULTURE IS THE EXTENDED FAMILY SYSTEM. IT IS ALSO THE SAFETY NET. I THINK WE SHOULD START BY PROPERLY UNDERSTANDING WHAT THE PROPER DEFINITION OF WHO IS A DESTITUTES IN THE CONTEXT OF NIGERIA'S SOCIAL CONTEXT. IT IS REALLY NOT ABOUT BEING POOR. A DESITUTES IS ONE WHO AS A RESULT OF MENTAL STATE IS NO LONGER IN A POSITION TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR HIS OWN ACTIONS. IN THAT CASE, THE BEST WAY TO TREAT A DESTITUTES WITH RESPECT IS TO FIRST REMOVE. THEN REHABILITATE AND FINALLY RE-INTERGRATE. IN PRACTICAL TERMS, IT IS NOT AS EASY IT SEEMS. WHILE I CAN UNDERSTAND ALL THE SOCIETAL IDEALS YOU ENUMERATED ABOVE, I MUST SAY I AM NOW EVEN CONVINCED THAT YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND HOW COMPLEX THIS MATTER IS IN PRACTICAL TERMS. |
PointB: If Akwa Ibom or Anambra repatriate destitute/beggar it is wrong and unconstitutional; and in the same way, it is criminal, evil and wickedness to dump them in the middle of nowhere in the dead of the night!SO IT IS NOT A TRIBAL OR POLITICAL MATTER. QED. HOW IS IT? |
antartica: If it a confirmed case that people are mentally insane,getting intouch with their families to take care of them is a saintly act.But a case of deporting mentally sound destitutes,the homeless and the physically disable for roaming the streets or begging harmlessly in their own country is nazi like.RE-INTEGRATING PEOPLE WITH THEIR FAMILIES IS NAZI-LIKE?!!LOOK NO ONE SLEEPS UNDER THE BRIDGE AND BEG IF THEY ARE STILL SOCIALLY FUNCTIONAL.THEY ARE ALSO AT RISK TO THEMSELVES AND THE SOCIETY AT LARGE.YOU DONT UNDERSTAND HOW COMPLEX THE ISSUE IS AND YOU ARE PROBABLY STAYING ABROAD OR IN COUNTRIES WHERE THERE IS A SOCIAL SECURITY SYSTEM IN PLACE. THE SOCIAL SECURITY SYSTEM WE HAVE IN NIGERIA IS THE EXTENDED FAMILY SYSTEM.WHEN YOU ARE THE ONE THAT HAS TO GRAPPLE WITH ISSUES LIKE THIS IN REAL TERMS, YOU WILL QUICKLY FOUND OUT THAT SOME OF THE IDEALISTIC NOTIONS YOU HAVE IS NOT PRACTICABLE. |
PointB: So because Anambra state did not turn-up to inspect/receive those kidnapped by Lagos State (for whatever reason) then Lagos State is justified in maltreating (and starving) them to the point of dumping them in the dead of the night at Onitsha bridgehead? Are you human at all?NO, WE DID NOT SAY THEY ARE JUSTIFIED. AND MOST POSTERS HERE INCLUDING THE FELLOW YOU ARE RESPONDING TO HAS ADMITTED AS MUCH.WHAT IS PUZZLING IS THAT YOU SEEMS TO WANT TO - FOR OBVIOUS REASON- COMPLETELY IGNORE THE CAUSE AND MAJOR ON THE EFFECT. SUMMARY: IF THE ANAMBRA STATE GOVT HAS ACTED THE WAY THE LAGOS STATE GOVERNMENT DID IN THE AKWA IBOM CASE, THE UNFORTUNATE AND REGRETABLE INCIDENCE OF DUMPING AT 3 AM AND UNDER THE BRIDGE WOULD NOT HAVE TAKEN PLACE. |
PointB: Please say it [b]LOUDER [/b]so that the ethnically bigoted elements , defending Lagos maltreatment of unfortunate citizens will learn how things are done in civilised world.WE SHOULD ALSO SHOUT IT EVEN LOUDER TO THE ETHINICALLY BIGOTED VICTIM PLAYING ELEMENTS THAT WHAT ALL THESE HAS PROVEN IS THAT THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH TRIBE AND NOR TARGETED AT ANY PARTICULAR TRIBE AND IS NOT A PROGRAM INITIATED BY ANY PARTICULAR TRIBE TO TARGET ANY PARTICULAR TRIBE! IT IS ALSO NOT ABOUT THE POLITICS OF A COMING ELECTION IN A PARTICULAR STATE. WE SHOULD ALSO SHOUT IT LOUD AND CLEAR THAT BEHAVOURAL SCIENTIST HAVE FOUND THAT IT IS THE REAL ETHINICALLY BIGOTED THAT ARE QUICK TO ACCUSE OTHERS OF SAME. |
ojubi: I am a certified psychiatric nurse.HONESTLY YOU ARE STATING WHAT YOU READ IN BOOKS, BUT LIKE ANY EXPERIENCED SOCIAL WORKER WILL TELL YOU IT IS COMPLETELY IMPRACTICABLE IN OUR ENVIRONMENT. I ALSO SEE THAT YOU ARE ALREADY JUDGING WHAT AKWA IBOM ACTUALLY DOES BASED ON A PRESS RELEASE BY A CIVIL SERVANT. THE REALITY IS THIS: THE FACILITIES CAPACITY IS LIMITED SO YOU NEED TO MAKE ROOM FOR MORE SERIOUS CASES. THE KIND OF PERSONAL ATTENTION THAT AIDS MEMORY RECOVERY IS MOST LIKELY PROVIDED IN A FAMILY ENVIRONMENT, NOT WHEN A SINGLE NURSE HAS TO DEAL WITH SEVERAL PATIENTS. LASTLY THE FUNDING IS NEVER ENOUGH SO YOU HAVE TO MAKE DO WITH WHAT YOU CAN GET FROM YOUR BUDGET . FINALLY, PLEASE NOTICE THE HEADING AND READ THE CONTENT OF THE LETTER AKWA IBOM WROTE THE LAGOS STATE GOVERNMENT AND READ BETWEEN THE LINES! |
PointB: What if they have no relatives, or are unwilling to relocate for sundry reason? Let's assume someone who became a Nigeria citizen by naturalisation, birth etc becomes destitute in Nigeria, where do you deport such individual to?SO HAVE YOU NOW AGREED THAT THE POLICY OF RELOCATING IS NOT PECULIAR TO LAGOS STATE AND THE TRIBE OF THE DESTITUTE S IS NOT PECULIARLY IGBOS? SO NOW COME LET'S REASON TOGETHER. LET US ASK OURSELVES THESE QUESTIONS. IF YOU HEAD A SOCIAL WELFARE DEPARTMENT HOW WOULD YOU MANAGE THE PROBLEM OF DESTITUTE S IN OUR URBAN CITIES.WOULD YOU LEAVE THEM TO KEEP ROAMING THE STREETS? AND IF YOU HAVE A PROGRAM OF REHABILITATION , WHAT WOULD YOU DO AFTER THEY HAVE UNDERGONE REHABILITATION FOR SOME TIME? AND SINCE MOST REHABILITATION CENTERS HAVE LIMITED FACILITIES WHAT WOULD YOU DO TO DE-CONGEST FOR NEW ONES.? LASTLY IF YOU SAY RELOCATION CLOSE TO FAMILY IS WRONG, CAN YOU SUGGEST A MORE EFFECTIVE POST REHABILITATION PROGRAM? I AGREE THE SOCIAL WORKERS DID NOT ACT PROFESSIONALLY BY ABANDONING THOSE PEOPLE IN THE DEAD OF THE NIGHT UNDER THE BRIDGE IF TRULLY THEY DID, BUT THE FAULTY IMPLEMENTATION OF A POLICY DOES NOT NEGATE ITS EFFECTIVENESS. IT SEEMS TO ME YOU REALLY DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW EMOTIONAL AND COMPLEX THIS ISSUE IS TO MANAGE IN REAL TERMS. |
Amanwulu1: I guess I'll b a gud guy if I suport ur opinion bt I knw I'm not jst as u're nt. We're all nigerians n we're nt knwn to b gud people so stp abusing a man who've fought batles dat u canneva face cos he doesn't agree wit ur tribal warped opinion.BUT IT IS ALRIGHT WHEN IT AGREES WITH YOUR OWN TRIBAL WARPED OPINION! |
HolyTruth: Oga Fashola over to you?WHAT? EBENEZER BABATOPE YORUBA LEADER? GIVE ME A BREAK. THE MAN IS TOO CONFUSED TO LEAD A STREET IN ILESHA TALKLESS OSUN STATE.FASHOLA WILL NOT DIGNIFY THIS OLD POLITICAL PROSTITUTE WITH A RESPONSE |
[quote author=Opinion_Leader]Chief Babatope has proven that indeed he is a true leader and a statesman unlike the ethnocentric Femi Fani-Kayode, who talks before he thinks. His unbiased position and gracious utterances is highly commendable. Unfortunately, some Nairaland ndi-amakekwus and ndi-agamevus in the similitude of FFK would not accept this fact.[/quote]JUST LIKE SOME NAIRALAND HATERS IN THE SIMILITUDE OF ABACHA MAN CHEAP OPPORTUNIST BABATOPE WOULD NOT ACCEPT THE FACTS AFTER INVESTIGATION BY JOE IGOKWE,CHRIS NGIGE , BEN AKABUEZE ,ADINUBA ETC. CHIEF BABATOPE HAS PROVEN THAT HE IS NOTHING BUT A CHEAP POLITICAL HACK THAT WILL LATCH ON TO ANYTHING TO SCORE A CHEAP POLITICAL POINT. HE WAS CHEAP WHEN ABANDONED JUNE 12TH AND WENT WITH ABACHA. HE IS STILL CHEAP AS A LACKEY OF GOODLUCK JONATHAN. |
Longeria: And Fashola did perfectly well by reuniting them with their families at their family compound at river Niger head bridge, at 2am. Thanks for your matured explanation.YOU OBVIOUSLY DID NOT READ WHAT I WROTE OR ELSE YOU WOULD HAVE NOTICED THE PART ON THE MISTAKES THAT WERE MADE.. ON MY PART I NOTICED THAT YOU WERE TRYING TO IMPLY THAT FASHOLA ACTUALLY DROVE THE TRANSPORT THAT CONVEYED THOSE DESTITUTES AND DUMP THEM UNDER THE BRIDGE. BUT DONT YOU THINK THAT IF YOUR GOVT HAD DONE WHAT THE LAGOS STATE GOVT DID IN THE CASE OF AKWA IBOM WE WOULD NOT BE HAVING THIS DISCUSSION?. ADMIT IT, YOUR GOVERNMENT DOES NOT CARE FOR HIS PEOPLE. PERIOD. EITHER THAT , OR THERE IS AN ULTERIOR MOTIVE YOU GUYS ARE NOT YET LETTING ON. |
PointB: As they say, the difference is clear, and below are the very obvious differences. Let's see if we can spot more difference between Lagos State and Akwa Ibom in this cases.INDULGE IN AS MUCH PERSECUTION PROGANDA AS YOU WANT BUT THE FACT REMAINS THAT AKWA IBOM GOVERNMENT SUBSCRIBES TO THE TENET THAT THE BEST WAY TO REHABILITATING DESTITUTES IS TO REUNITE THEM CLOSE TO THEIR FAMILIES. THE NUMBER DOES NOT MATTER HERE BECAUSE IF SIXTY LAGOSIANS HAD BEEN INVOLVED THEY WOULD HAVE STILL ASK LAGOS TO COME AND PPICK THEM UP. YOU SEE NOTHING WRONG R STATE GOVT IGNORING TO DO ANYTHING ABOIT THE DESTITUTE S FOR FOUR GOOD MONTHS. YOU WILL NOT AGREE THAT YOUR GOVT DEMONSTRATED AND UTTER CALLOUSNESS TO ITS OWN PEOPLE BUT WOULD RATHER SHOUT YOUR SELF HOARSE IN A SITUATION WHERE GENUINE MISTAKES MIGHT HAVE BEEN MADE BY THE SOCIAL WORKERS YOU CARRIED OUT THE RELOCATION. THEY SHOULD NOT HAVE REACTED IMMATURELY TO THE FACT NO ONE FROM ANAMBRA WAS THERE FOR THE HANDOVER. THEY SHOULD HAVE BEEN MORE HUMANE DESPITE THE OBVIOUS INCOMPETENCE OF THE ANAMBRA STATE GOVT. THE RETATION CEMTE IN IKORODU IS STILL THE BEST AND BETTER FUNDED REHABILITATION CENTER IN COUNTRY TODAY. I KNOW YOU DO NOT HAVE ONE AND DO NOT CARE TO HAVE ONE IN ANAMNRA STATE SO I CAN UNDERSTAND WHY YOU WILL CALL IT A DETENTION CENTER. YOUR SUGGESTION THAT THEY DESTITUTES SHOULD BE DRIVEN BACK TO THE STREETS IS WHAT YOUR GOVERNMENT DOES OR ELSE I WOULD HAVE ADVISED THAT YOU PROFFER YOUR ASSISINE ADVICE TO THE TRIBAL DEMAGOGUE IN ANAMBRA GOVT HOUSE. |
payless: Sexkillz is here watching and ready to strike at any moments. I am sorry to say she is bigot too. She is biased but not as biased as that Afam of a moderator. She does hide her bigotry but get exposed some of the time while doing it. I have seen on several ocassions when Igbos are throwing insults around while Afam is on the thread watching and reading without doing anything. The moment Yorubas start to respond in kind is when Afam normally begin to delete posts. It happenes on daily basis and I see this as sending wrong signal.AFAM IS LIKE A REFREE THAT IS ALSO A PLAYER ON THE OPPOSING SIDE. THE MORE PEOPLE FROM THE OTHER TEAM YOU CAN SEND OFF THE BETTER. HIS PEOPLE PROVOKES, WHEN YOU RESPOND HE BANS. AM JUSTING RETURNING FROM HIS BAN AS WELL. BIASED UMPIRE!! |
PDP GOVERNMENTIN THE FCT ALSO RELOCAYES AND REUNITE DESTITUTES. ALSO KANO AND AKWA IBOM AND THEY ARE ALSO PDP STATES. SO NOBODY SHOULD TRY TO SCORE CHEAP POLIT7CAL POINT. THE MAJOR ISSUE HERE IS WHEN THESE DESTITUTE ARE REMOVED FROM THE STREETS AND TAKEN TO REHABILITATION CENTERS WITH LIMITED CAPACITY, WHAT IS THE BEST NEXT STEP AND HOW CAN IT BE DONE IN A HUMANE WAY. OBVIOUSLY, THEY CANNOT BE HOUSED FOR TOO LONG IN THOSE FACILITIES BECAUSE ROOM NEEDS TO BE MADE FOR NEW ONES AND TO ME IT DOES NOT MAKE SENSE TO SIMPLY ALLOW THEM BACK TO THE SAME STREET. I WOULD HAVE THOUGHT RELOCATION CLOSER TO THEIR FAMILIESTO THEIR FAMILOES REMAINS THE BEST OPTION. WHAT WE SHOULD ADDRESS OUR MIND TO IS THE MOST EFFECTIVE WAY OF DOING THIS.AA YES. SOME MISTAKES WERE ,MADE IN THE HANDLING OF THE ANAMBRA 14 AND PROBABLY IN THE PAST CASES IN TERMS OF A MORE HUMANE MANER OF HANDLING THE MATTER, BIT THESE ARE THE THINGS BE DISCUSSING NOT ALL THE RUBBISH OPPORTUNISTIC POLITOCAL CRAPTRAPS. WE SHOULD ALSO BE FAIR BECAUSE I CAN UNDERSTAND THAT ENVIRONMENTAL AGENCIES STAFFS IN URBAN CITIES LIKE ABUJA AND LAGOS WORK UNDER PRESSIRE AND MAY SOMETIMES MAKE GENUINE MISTAKES OR MAY SOMETIMES BE CALLOUS AND UNCARING. |
mikeansy: When I read this bit I say there is hope for Nigeria afterallSEE YOU HAVE HOPE FOR NIGERIA WHEN IT SUITS YOU. BUT WHEN IGOKWE, ADINUBA AND NGIGIE MADE THEIR OWN CONCLUSIONS, YOU CALL THEM ALL SORT OF NAMES AND THREATEN TO DECLARE ONE OF THEM PERSON NOON GRATA. IN IGBO LAND. AS FOR BABATOPE , HE IS NOTHIMG BUT A CHEAP POLITICAL HACK JUST TRYING TO SCORE CHEAP POLITICAL POINT.. REALLY AM NOT SURPRISED. THIS SAME UNPRIMCIPLED POLITICIAN SERVED ABACHA AND GAVE ALL SORT OF INANE JUSTIFICATION. HOPE FOR NIGERIA INDEED. |
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