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dayodunce: I will not support Rochas even if he is the messiah.IS SOLUDO A PLOTICAL PROSTITUTE FOR LEAVING PDP FOR APGA? I SUPPOSE NOT. |
remark D: The $tu|pid lies you lot tell yourselves is alarming...PLEASE ALSO PASS ON THE MESSAGE THAT YOU GUYS HAVE FINALLY PUSHED US TO THE WALL. YOUR HATRED FOR OUR LEADERS, YOUR DISDAIN AND DISRESPECT FOR OUR CULTURE, TRADITION AND PEOPLE HAD GONE ON TOO LONG AND TOO MUCH. FROM NOW ON IT IS FIRE FOR FIRE. |
dayodunce: Yorubas are notoriously uncultured, the world have known. They did not just go to Lagos state but where begged by Fascistshola for the photo opportunity to publish more lies and appear not a Nazi.MY MAN. PUT DOWN THAT PIPE IS MAKIMG YOU VERY INCOHERENT. YOU MEAN THERE IS A NAZI LIKE CONCENTRATION CAMP IN LAGOS SPECIF8CALLY FOR THE EXTERMINATION OF IGBOS. GAS CHAMBERS AND ALL. HOLOCAUST! HOLOCAUST! HOLOCAUST! FASHOLA IS THE NEW FASCIST HITLER HEAD OF THE THIRD REICH ARE YOU GUYS OKAY? |
dayodunce: Nobody is begging, Igbos are civilize people and dey wanted to find out from the horses mouth, Fashola seizing photo opportunity to publish more lies. It will not work.II AGREE WITH YOU. CIVILISED PEOPLE FIRST JUMP TO A CONCLUSION AND THEREAFTER SOUGHT THE FACTS. |
Erotex: He has no alternative than to deny. He for hear Weeeeeeee!!LIKE HE DEALT WITH HIS PROTEGE SO MUCH THAT HE COULD NOT WIN A SENATORIAL ELECTION IN A STATE HE WAS GOVERNOR FOR EIGHT UEARS. IF YOU DO NOT KNOW THAT YOUR SO CALLED OUK IS ONLY PLAYING TO THE GALLERY, THEN KINDLY HEED THIS SIMPLE ADVICE: DONT BE STUPID. |
billante: This is to tell him that igbos are too powerful to be pushed about or treated poorly and don't expect a backlash!THIS HOW YOU PEOPLE DELUDE YOURSELVES WITH A NON EXISTENT SENSE OF SELF IMPORTANCE ALL THE TIME. THERE IS NO DEPORTATION ANYWHERE. A PEOPLE AFFLICTED WITH PERSECUTION COMPLEX TIRNED A SIMPLE MATTER OF DESTITIDES REHABILITATION INTO A VILE PERSECUTION PROPAGANDA . CAMPIAGN. THAT FAILED WOEFULLY. |
horchukoh: Why deport the ibos are they nt nigerians no matter dere offence you don't have the rite to deport dem or even sending a letter to dere state government.smhN THERE IS NOTHING LIKE DEPRTATION. IT IS SIMPLY AN ISSUE OF REHABILITATION OF DESTITUTES. IT IS NOT ONLY OGBOS THAT HAS BEEN AFFECTED AND IT IS NOT ONLY LAGOS ENFORCING THE POLICY OF RELOCATION OF DESTITUDES TO THEIR STATE OF RESIDENCE IN PRDER TO REUNITE THEM WITH THEIR FAMILIES. IT ONLY BECAME A TRIBAL ISSUE BECAUSE YOU IGBOS HAVE A PERRENIAL TENDENCY TO PLAY THE VICTIM.. |
DerideGull: The conjectural crap about governors and their tenures is bloodily irrelevant. The idea of Iyaloja or Babaloja in modern markets controlled by modern governments not modeled after a hateful Yoruba tradition is political patronage induced by tribal bigotry.YOU SEEMS TO BE SAYING THE SAME THING AGAIN AND AGAIN . HATEFUL BUT OBSERVED IN OTHER YORUBA MARKETS? YOU SEEMS TO USE THE WORD TRIBAL BIGOTRY SENSELESSLY. WOULD YORUBAS BE SHOWING TRIBAL BIGOTRY TO THEMSELVES.? IS LADIPO A MODERN MARKET? SO WHAT ARE THE MALLS? HONESTLY I THINK YOU DONT HAVE ANY NEW THING TO OFFER BUT THROW UP CONJECTURAL CRAPS!!! |
bayooooooo: That a local government chairman wields more power than Oba of Lagos is not the subject of discourse(open a thread for that if you want and by the way the argument can be extended to other traditional rulers across the nation). Like I wrote earlier, what matters is tradition.I AM BEGINNING TO THINK THAT IT IS FUTILE DISCUSSING TRADITION WITH THIS PEOPLE. SOMETIMES I WONDER IF THEY HAVE ANY IN THEIR PLACE. WHAT I FIND EXTREMELY ANNOYING IS THIS TACTLESS TENDENCY TO DISPARAGE AND DISRESPECT OTHER PEOPLE'S TRADITION. IT IS EGGREGIOUS MANNERLESSNESS THAT ANY TRUE AFRICAN SHOULD NOT BE ASSOC7ATED WITH. |
Katsumoto: You aren't making sense - markets by their very nature are meant to profitable ventures. Are you expecting there to be an iyaloja or babaloja on a barren plot of land with no commercial activity.THIS IS WHY THEY HAVE ALWAYS HAD ISSUES WITH MOST 8F THEIR HOST. |
DerideGull: Which Hausa heads market in northern region? Market trader’s association elects its leaders who in turn represent them through the local government up to the state government level in northern region. This tribally biased shenanigan of IYALOJA OR BABALOJA in Lagos State is crude form of ethicized political patronage.I AM NOT TALKING ABOUT MARKET TRADERS ASSOCIATION AND YOU KNOW IT. TO ME THE MATTER IS VERY SIMPLE. IF IGBOS FEEL THAT THE TRADITION OF BABALOJA IS A CRUDE FORM OF ETHNICISED POLITICAL PATRONAGE AS YOU STATED, THEN THEY SHOULD GO ELSEWHERE ADVISEDLY THE EAST TO DO BUSINESS. OR ARE YOU SUGGESTING THAT LADIPO MARKET SHOULD BE DIFFRENT BECAUSE IT IS DOMINATED BY IGBOS? WE HAVE MARKETS DOMIJATED BY OTHER TRIBES SUCH AS MILE 12 ETC AND WE HAVE ENJOYED RELATIVE PEACE . |
DerideGull: The above post is a result of despicable and inherent tribalism. In the northern region of Nigeria, Igbo traders have representatives at the governor’s office. The shameful display at Ladipo Market is one among many reasons the “SAN” worn by Fashola is highly questionable. The tribal induced shenanigans of fraudulent Babaloja buttressed what I had maintained on this forum that Yoruba people are second nature to tribal bias.YOU MEAN THE TRADITION OF MARKETS HAVING BABALOJA IS DESPICABLE AND INHERENT TRIBALISM? BUT ALL YORUBAS AND HAUSA MARKET S IN LAGOS HAVE IYALOJA OR BABALOJA. FI RST YOU DID NOT ADDRESS THE FACT MARKETS IN THE NORTH ARE HEADED BY NORTHERNERS BUT YOU ARE TALIKG THAT IGBOS TRADERS HAVE REPRESENTATIVES IN THE GOVERNORS OFFICE . DO YOU KNOW THAT THE LAGOS STATE GOVT ALSO RECOGNISES THE POSITION OF EZE IGBO . HOW CAN BABALOJA BE TRIBALLY INDUCED SHENNANIGAN WHEN THE TRADITION HAS BEEN IN EXISTENCE FOR AGES. ARE WE SUPPOSE TO START CHANGING OUR CULTURES FOR YOU IBOS . CAN YOU TOLERATE THIS KIND OF NONSENSE IN YOUR OWN ENVIRONMENT? LIKE YOU THIS BABALOJA ISSUE BUTTRESSED THE POINT I HAVE ALWAYS MAIMTAIMED IN THIS FORUM THAT BECAUSE IBO PEOPLE DO NOT HAVE CULTURE THEY CANNOT RESPECT AND APPRECIATE OTHER PEOPLE'S CULTURE. SECONDLY BECAUSE THEY ARE AFFLICTED WITH SEVERE PERSECUTION COMPLEX , THEY SEE TRIBAL VICTIMISATION IN EVERYTHING. |
[quote author=9ja_I_hail]It is obvious that you missed the point... Go back to the article you will see the highlighted part in bold. Bolded part proved and indicted awo and his cohort of being responsible for election rigging,vote buying and manipulation we as people experiencing in this unholy marriage call Nigeria. Another vital point i would like you to look into in the article is the line where it stated that minority of action group party lead by awo manipulated majority(NCNC) which Zik represented, Making it impossible for zik to win the election that would have made him premier of the west. Now if this is not tribalism tell me what it is. Mind you an hausa man was the first mayor of Enugu state.[/quote]HONESTLY I DID NOT MISS A SINGLE POINT. YOU ARE STILL QUOTING FROM THE NCNC VERSION OF EVENT. THIS I CAN UNDERSTAND.. BUT IT DOES NOT MAKE IT A FACT. I CAN ALSO UNDERSTAND WHY YOU COULD NOT SEE THE ASPECT OF THE OTHER VERSION THAT INDICTS ZIK FOR SURREPTITIOUSLY CARRYING OUT A TRIBAL AGENDA OF DOMINATION. |
austinkenneth: Do you think Uba can beat Ngige in Anambra regardless of the party they belong to? Anambra people are one of the most logical ib Nigeria and will easily sacrifice loyalty on the altar of competence.BUT THE TRUTH IS THAT NO ONE WILL COMPETE WITH NGIGE ON THE BASIS OF HIS RECORD. THE STRATEGY WILL BE TO WHIP UP EXTRANEOUS NEGATIVE SENTIMENTS AS THIS THREAD SOUGHT TO DO. HOW EFFECTIVE THIS ASSOCATIVE OSCTRATIZATION STRATEGY WILL BE IS WHAT THE JURY IS STILL OUT FOR! |
Willy4Willy: You see, you are real Olukuboy, Awolowo was the Chief in Command of tribalism.I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU. IF HUBERT MACAULY A YORUBA WHO FOUNDED NCNC AND WAS THE LEADER BEFORE ON HIS DEATH , NNAMDI AZIKWE THE SECRETARY TOOK OVER , WAS ALIVE AND THE SITUATION ARISES THAT A YORUBA MAN WILL HEAD THE EAST AND WEST WOULD IT BE ACCEPTABLE TO YOUR PEOPLE..? TWO: IF AZIKWE WAS NOT IBO WOULD THE IGBOS HAVE BEEN 100 PERCENT NCNC? |
[quote author=9ja_I_hail]Egungu boy.. I really don't wanna do this but you pushed me hard. Below article highlighted when and who introduced tribalism in Nigeria. I hope you can be man enough and agree with the fact provided.. Mind you, this history dated before the coup which took place in January 15/1966. "The NCNC strategy was to seize the opportunity of the alliance to slap back the AG in the face to pay it back in its own coin for what it did to the NCNC in 1952 at the Western House of Assembly." TOS Benson "In 1952, the Action Group propagated its philosophy of East for the East, North for the North and the West for the West and argued that if an Hausa man could be leader of the government in the North, an Igboman as leader of government in the East, then an Igbo man should not lead the government in the West. Of course the Action Group philosophy gained ground. On its own part, the NCNC philosophy focused on one Nigeria, one country and one constitution. Therefore, the NCNC lost to the Action Group in the West even in the appointment of two of the five Lagos members to the Federal House, the Action Group voted against Zik in the Western House of Assembly irrespective of the fact that NCNC won the five members in Lagos. However, the man who led the East then (Eyo Ita) whom the Action Group regarded as an Igbo man was an Efik and not Igbo. In its political game and rascality, the Action Group, through vote buying and manipulation had vaporised the NCNC majority in the House and this prevented Zik from being leader of government in the Western Region or going on from the West to the House of Representatives in Lagos. The Lagos Metropolis was then part of the West. At that time, members got to the Federal House from their regional Houses through Electoral College except in Lagos where general election was conducted and the NCNC 'Five Men of Destiny' defeated the five members of the Action Group." http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TalkNigeria/message/60864 the bolded line is a clear evidence that Western Nigerian man call awolowo and his followers introduced bribe,corruption,vote rigging and every other bad acts existing in Nigeria today.. Thanks to Awolowo for his wonderful legacy.[/quote]MY BROTHER YOU QUOTING THE NCNC VERSION OF EVENTS. HERE IS ANOTHER VERSION.THE IBADAN PEOPLE'S PARTY LEAD BY AKINLOYE AND ADELABU ACTUALLY CONTESTED THE ELECTION AS A GROUP AND THE UNDERSTANDING WAS THAT AFTER WINNING THEY WOULD ALIGN WITH NCNC TO FORM THE GOVRNMENT IN THE WEST. PLEASE NOTE THAT ALL THE NCNC MEMBERS WERE YORUBAS AND IT WAS ONLY IN THE WEST THAT THERE WAS A DOMINANCE OF TWO PARTIES. THE EAST WAS 100ERCENT NCNC AND THE NORTH WAS MAJORLY NPC. THE ISSUE CAME UP WHEN ZIK WHO IS THE LEADER OF NCNC AND FROM THE EAST WANTED TO BECOME THE PREMIER OF THE WEST WHEN ANOTHER EASTERNER HEADS THE EAST. THIS IS WHAT PROVOKED THE CROSS CARPETING OF SOME YORUBA NCNC MEMBERS TO THE AG. OF COURSE THE AG EXPLOITED THE SITUATION TO THEIR ADVANTAGE. NOW IF THE MOTIVE IS TRIBALISM, HOW COME THE SAME SET OF NCNC MEMBERS LATER SUPPORTED AKINTOLA AND ALIGNED WITH THE FULANI HAUSA NPC WHILE AWO'S AG ALIGNED WITH THE IBO DOMINATED NCNC. IT WAS ALL POLITIICS!! |
datChelseaBoy: Dr Chris Tunde Ngige of ACN - No!I THINK UNDERSTAND THE PURPOSE OF THIS THREAD. LEVERAGE THE MUTUAL ANIMOSITY, DISTRUST AND HATRED MOST YORUBAS AND IGBOS HAVE FOR EACH OTHER TO UNDERMINE NGIGE 'S CHANCE IN THE FORTHCOMING GOVERNORSHIP ELECTION. THE BASIC IDEA HERE IS THAT SINCE ASSOCIATION WITH YORUBAS PROVOKES NEGATIVE VIBES FROM IGBOS THEN NGIGE ALMOST D8ES NOT STAND A CHANCE IN AS MUCH AS HE CHOOSES A PLATFORM THAT IS ASSOCIATED WITH THE ENEMY. TO ME THIS IS A LEGITIMATE AND POTENT POLITICAL STRATEGY AND I COMMEND THE CREATOR OF THIS THREAD FOR HIS INTELLIGENCE TO ME, THIS IS NOT NEW. PETER OBI AND UMEH USED PRECISELY THE SAME STRATEGY AGAINST NGIGE IN THE LAST SENATORIAL ELECTION. WHAT IS PUZZLING TO ME IS HOW NGIGE WAS ABLE TO OVERCOME THIS KIND OF FORMIDABLE NEGATIVE TO HAVE WON THAT ELECTION. FOR ME EVEN IF NGIGE LOSES THE COMING ELECTION HE HAS SHOWN AN UNUSUAL PRINCIPLE AND COURAGE NOT COMMON WITH MOST NIGERIAN POLITICIANS. WHAT A TYPICAL POLITICIAN WOULD HAVE DONE IS CHANGE HIS PLATFORM AND DISTANCE HIMSELF FROM HIS YORUBAS ASSOCIATES . |
THANK GOD AS WE ENGINEERS SAY, THERE ARE A COUPLE OF BENCHMARK TO USE. OSUN STATE PDP: 2003 TO 2011 8 YEARS. ACN 2011 TO DATE 3 YRS APR ALSO USE EKITI, OGUN, OYO LET START WITH PERFORMANCE BENCHMARK. THE PURPOSE HERE IS TO DO APLE TO APPLE SCIENTIFIC COMPARISON. LET'S LEAVE ALL SUBJECTIVE CONJECTURES FOR NOW.. |
ichidodo: SO WHAT ARE SHOPPING MALLS FOR IF NOT FOR BUYING AND SELLING? MAYBE IN IBADAN WHERE YOU COME THEY ARE USED FOR BREEDIN AGBEROS AND THROWING OWAMBES.YOU DO NOT GET IT EASILY. DO YOU? II USED THE WORD BUY AND SELL TO MEAN LOW LEVEL TRADING AND MALLS I REFER TO WHISPERIMG PALMS AND SHOPRITE. THE FLOW OF GOODS IN THIS TYPES 8F MARKETS IS BETTER MANAGED AND CONTROLLED. THERE ARE PROCESSES HERE THAT GUARANTEES THAT THE GOODS ARE ORIGINAL AND OF STANDARD. WHERE YOUR PEOPLE EXCEL IS IN THE AREA OF FLOODING THE MARKETS WITH FAKE SUB STANDARD GOODS. INDEED WHAT DROVE DECENT BUSINESS PEOPLE AWAY FROM MOST OF THIS BASIC TRADING BUSINESS IS THAT NO ONE IS READY TO STOOP SO LOW MORALLY TO MATCH YOUR PEOPLE'S LEVEL OF DESPERATION FOR MONEY AND THEIR CULTURE OF UNWHOLESOME TRADE PRACTICES. BY THE WAY, AM NOT FROM IBADAN BUT THANK GOD THE IBADAN PEOPLE ARE A NOBLE PEOPLE. UNLIKE YOUR PEOPLE THEY ARE NOT USED TO BREEDING 419 MEN / DRUG PUSHING CRIMINAL MEN AND COMMERCIAL PROSTITUES WOMEN. |
ichidodo: SO? WHO DO YOU THINK ARE THE CREATORS AND BENEFICIARIES OF THESE BEAUTIFUL THINGS, A TRIBE WHO ARE GIVEN TO LAZINESS, EXTORTION,FILTH AND SH*T OR A TRIBE WHO R GIVEN TO ENTERPRISE,BUSINESS ACUMEN, HARDWORK, DETERMINATION AND PERSISTENCE? FASHOLA TALKS ABOUT INVESTORS COMING TO LAGOS, WHO DO YOU THINK THOSE PEOPLE ARE, DEFINTELY NOT OUTSIDERS WHO PREFER GHANA TO NIGERIA, IT IS WE THE IGBOS WHO ARE THE LIFEBLOOD OF LAGOS ECONOMY, I CAN'T WAIT FOR THE COMPLETION OF LEKKI SEAPORT, FTZ, EKO ATLANTIC ETC IT will MAKE EKO MUCH MORE ENJOYABLE FOR WE IGBOS. EKO ONIBAJE FOR WE IGBOS LAILAI.ARE YOU SAYING THE CREATORS ARE IBOS? MY BROTTHER LET BE SERIOUS. WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT BUYING AND SELLING HERE. MAYBE WHEN I MENTION MALLS YOU MISTAKING IT FOR ABA MARKET.!! |
Eze Promoe: [color=crimson]You guys make it look like there's noone in the East.STILL ON THIS VERY REVEALING POST. YOU STARTED THAT THE INDIVIDULISTIC NATURE OF THE IGBO MAN MAKES TEAM EFFORT IMPOSSIBLE. THAT YOU DO NOT HAVE ANY LEADER. EVERY MEMBER OF THE PACK LEADS. EVERY ONE IS MAKING HIS OWN MONEY BY HOOK OR CROOK FOR HIMSELF WITHOUT A DAMN FOR THE LARGER COMMUNITY . AND THAT THE REASON WHY YOU ONLY VISIT YOUR PLACE ONCE IN A YEAR IS THAT COMPETION IS VERY STIFF. ALL YOUR WORDS. |
Eze Promoe: [color=crimson]You guys make it look like there's noone in the East.NO YOU LOVE TAKING ADVANTAGE OF ALL YOUR HOST. GO BACK IN TIME. THE NORTH, PPRT HARCOURT AND NOW LAGOS. WELL MAY BE THE LOGIC IS THAT EVERY OTHER NIGERIAN IS LAZY AND FOOLISH. YOU IBOS ARE THE ONLY WISE ONES. LIKE THE PHILOSOPHY OF THE THIRD REICH, YOU ARE THE MASTER RACE CREATED TO DOMINATE EVERY OTHER TRIBE IN NIGERIA. THIS EXPANSIONIST MINDSET DID NOT START TODAY. IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN IN YOUR DNA. |
ichidodo: WHY ARE YOU IN A HASTE TO TELL THE IGBOS TO GO? SO AFTER DEVELOPING AND TURNING LAGOS INTO A MEGACITY YOU WANT US TO GO SO THAT YOU LAZY PEOPLE WILL REAP WHERE YOU DID NOT SOW? HOW DO YOU KNOW WE AIN'T DEVELOPING OUR VILLAGES WITH OUR EARNINGS IN LAGOS? HAVE YOU EVER TRAVELLED PAST IBADAN IN YOUR LIFE BEFORE? IS EKO YOUR LAND? IF IT IS TELL US THE MEANING IN YORUBA LANGUAGE.TURN LAGOS INTO A MEGA CITY WITH BUY AND SELL? PLEASE DON'T KILL ME WITH LAIGHTER! WE ARE TALIKNG MODERN MALLS, INFRASTRUCTURE, FINANCE, MANUFACTURING AND YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT MARKETS, IMPORT OF SUBSTANDARD GOODS FROM THE FAR EAST ETC. WHAT IS YOUR CONTRIBUTION TO THE STATE GDP PER ANNUM. HOW MUCH TAX DO THESE BLACK ECONOMY BUSINESES PAY? OUR LAZY PEOPLE ARE MAKING CONTRIBUTIONS IN CONSTRUCTION, BANKING AND FINANCE, MANUFACTURING ETC. PLEASE IF YOUR UNDERSTANDING OF THE ECONOMY IS ABOUT SHOPS AND TRADING THEN YOU DON'T GET IT. LAGOS IS GRADUALLY REPLACING MARKETS WITH MALLS. |