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Maradona went to the world cup with only strikers and inconsistent defenders. Veron who was supposed to be doing the creative part and feeding Messi and the other strikers was woeful in the first two matches so Maradona had to use the water carrier Maxi.

But its a wonderful experience watching Oziel play. Where the hell is Wenger in all this?

blueflame1:
******* Is planning? supposing again

Why don't you wait till the fiat is issued before we discuss it??

The bill passed by the house and senate after 18months of intense debate, various speeches and sensitisation  is your own version of Presidential Fiat right

whether the congress passes it or not, he is going to do so.He already said it that he would use his executive powers meaning he would do things by fiat. You can verify yourself. There are others that were not even discussed in congress like the Guantanamo issue and the interpol issue as well as the recent proclamation on the Gay pride day were not things passed by congress.Bottomline is there is executive orders/fiats/proclamations everywhere and not only Jonathan that has done that.

When a leader feels there is something that he needs to achieve but is not able to as quickly as he would have wanted because of the legislative bottlenecks, thats usually their last resort. Jonathan is within his rights to do that as long as the government is spending tax payers money on NFF.

Princek12:
Since you don't know the difference between the presidency and the ministry, let me school you. The president is the leader of the executive branch of govt., with limited roles and a general overseer of the executive branch of govt. The ministry is a branch of the executive assigned to specific roles. The sensible president will allow the minister to do his job, and will appoint a new minister if the current minister is ineffective. Jonathan acted like a dictator when he is performing roles not designated to him. At least he should have allowed the minister to deal with the issues first, just like it is done in civilized societies. In America, when there is terrorism issues, secretary of homeland security deals with it; health issue, secretary of health. Only in Naija will president act like a dictator and do everything.

A president should not mandate his employee to do everything, out of courtesy and respect for office. If that were the case, then there is no need to appoint ministers, for the president might as well unilaterally run the entire country by himself, which is what happens in Nigeria--no structure and organization, just mumbo jumbo. Geez!!!!

Also allegations of corruption should have been dealt with by the judicial dept. The govt. lawyers should have brought a charge of corruption against Lulu, in the court of law, adjudicated by an impartial magistrate. That is how things should be done.

Very funny. A lot of times, people are quick to mention America and others but like I said earlier, executive fiats are not common only in Nigeria. Obama, whom you all dont hesitate to mention has used it a number of times already in his short administration. If it was Nigeria or Jonathan, am sure the whole NL would be on fire now. And for your info, Obama is planning to use the same executive fiat to take over the health and insurance sector(ask those who know).But where is their 'Secretary of health' as you mentioned above?

y'all should free Messi abeg. The germans perfected a system of marking him with three people whenever he was on the ball. Two on both sides and one in front of him.

blueflame1:
Funny; In civilised societies 'Minister is not the same as government'. A ministry is a part of government, and the head of the ministry is in charge

Barack Obama, David Cameron, Etc would never usurp the duties of a minister or secretary of state and issue a presidential fiat to ban or change anything within a ministry. What they would do is replace the minister with another, or call the minister and explain their objective for him to carry out.

Its the civilised way of doing things

I bet you Obama and David Cameron dont spend millions of dollars of tax payers money on their FA's and footballers just for the FA's to steal it thats why they dont act with executive Fiat  on the issues.

Besides, executive fiats are not only common with Nigeria. Obama whom you mentioned, has used executive fiat already in some instances. Its sometimes unavoidable if you as a leader , needs to get things done.Things that hitherto, could not be done due to legislative bottlenecks and obstacles.

Besides, disbanding a particular team is not the same as withdrawing a team from FIFA competitions

Princek12, you love reading yourself on the internet otherwise, i dont know why you argue the obvious.

What nateevs was trying to make you see(I suspect he too is exasperated with your arguements), is that Minisitry/Minister is arm of government(executive arm ). If Minister probes, its government that probes. My goodness, I dont want to think that you are slow in comprehension but you are really making it difficult for one to think otherwise.

snowdrops:
Oshiomole remains a thug. A cannabis smoking womanizer. He was sponsored into office by the mother of all crooks lcuky igbinedion.

So all these are showmanship and a grand scheme to hoodwink the gullible public.

All you spokes persons on here should be ashamed of yourself. And yes its you i am talking about.

The highlighted statement tends to tell me that you may not know exactly what you are taking about.

That cant be further from the truth. Oshiomole got in there through the combined efforts of Labour party and Action Congress.

Igbinedion and PDP had nothing to do with it

blueflame1:
No one says u should maintain the status quo, what we r saying is don't ban the national team which would have consequences for our entire football teams including nigerian club football.

We propose prosecution of the entire NFF board members, the presidency has said as much that they have enough evidence.

Is it not worrisome that refusing to prosecute the board members and rather banning the team sounds like there is something to hide? Probably NFF board members singing and implicating those people who r playing saint and singing ban the team?

When they wanted ogbulafor out of the way, they knew how to go about it, he was arrested by the ICPC which led to his resignation, now in the case of the NFF board members what makes it so difficult to arrest them with the EFCC and ICPC

Banning the team actually doesn't even address the problem; ie the NFF board

Why is the concept so difficult to grasp?

Firstly, you said no one said they should maintain status quo but that they shouldnt ban the National team right?

And we are trying to let you see that the ban would have come anyway if we didnt ban ourselves. Because government is gearing to probe NFF(which FIFA warned us not to as it would be meddling and that leads to a ban).
The government is expecting the ban anyways so withdrawing from FIFA competitions was just to preempt FIFA and its like a card game if you may. Right now, we have options. Fifa can start to negotiate that we reverse the self-ban ourselves and carry on with the NFF restructuring which is actually what all this is about.

Did you read the piece from Ikedy Isiguzo of vangurad? Didnt you see the genesis of the problems and how FIFA is an equally corrupt entity which is just covering up for its cronies? Why do you all jump the salient issues raised just because of your love for football.

Can you guys(princek included) read through the Ikeddy Isiguzo piece and try to look at very important issues to this. Its not just enjoying entertainment and football. All that is just cosmetic. There are deeper reasons for this and the root cause goes deeper thats why this radical approach has to be taken.

One is getting exasperated saying the same things all over while you guys keep coming back to ask the same question: Why didnt they probe the NFF instaed?

If you want to be sincere, read through and see the numerous places where people have highlighted why they are doing it this way.

PokerFace:
I hate Germans with passion! Bloody Hitlers!

That was then. The racism that runs through the veins of an Argentine is unbelievable.

GO GERMANY!!!

honeric01:
Why did you say that?

Na all those press releases wey you post for here

Princek12:
it's not govt. intervention when you arrest sports administrators who have broken the law--in this case by embezzling funds. Get your facts straight.

Which facts are you asking him to get straight. People who know what is going on have explained to you several times what happened but you keep ranting around the whole place.I also highlighted to you what the Minister went through with FIFA but you totally ignored that and continued calling people who have divergent views names. For the benefit of doubt lets recount it to you again. After we lost at SA(this was widely reported), the Minister met with FIFA officials and told them about wide spread corruption and how we need to sanitize the FA and as such, probes and account audits have to be made. FIFA, instead of giving support for the laudable cause, warned Nigeria of interference.  

That means that any probe, arrest, or intimidation of the NFF officials, would mean interference and would result to the same ban. What was the government to do in this situation? Simply withdraw from FIFA competitions and sort the NFF out. Yes everyone was aware of the consequences so there was no going back.

You think if it was just easy to probe them without FIFA banning us that they wouldnt do that? Do you think the target of all this is our National teams? The target is and has always been the NFF. You are the one to get facts straight.

Princek12:
You won't get it, for you have the typical Nigerian mentality. That is the same thing a 419 says, that he does not care about Nigeria's image because he wants to make a dime. My point is that we need to think about the far reaching consequences of what we do before we do it.

Isnt it funny you are talking of image. The image that we dont want battered anymore by the NFF and the eagles?

Dude go and rest. The government has said they are not reversing it so deal with it.

Princek12:
The problem with a lot of unexposed people here supporting the ban is that they don't realize that the Super Eagles play not only for Nigerian fans at home and abroad but also to other foreign nationals and non African black people, all of whom cheer for the success of black and African teams, particularly Nigeria. They have all been calling me and expressing their frustration about the ban. The Super Eagles jersey is sold by Adidas worldwide; these idiots do not realize the impact of the ban on jersey sales and the brand of the Super Eagles. All these near sighted people. Many of the black folks were all cheering for the African teams and today were cheering for Ghana.

You still dont get it do you?

After the people abroad and wherever cheers the super eagles while playing, then what? After Adidas sells super Eagles jersey(which no amount comes into Nigeria's accts.) then what? The foreigners calling you and expressing their frustrations to you, do they have FA's that steall millions of dollars from accounts and tell them they must never probe them or FIFA will ban them?
Ok, the foreigners that are so frustrated with the decision, do they have the huge number of unemployed citizens that cant boast of earning 5k per month on salary while their government wastes millions of dollars on some arrogant,spoilt footballers and a band of criminals in the NFF?
I bet the foreigners who love our football so much, have other stuff that are working for them in the country and thats why they have all the time to be so engaged in our football yeah?

Why are you too not seeing beyond your nose? Why is your inordinate desire for entertainment that comes in the name of football stopping you from also thinking it through and seeing other sides to this?

Some of you people think its only when you call others names in your post that you will appear sensible or learned. The reverse is the case man.

abeg honeric, you dey work for the Public Relations Department of Edo State Government?  

Princek12:
Arrest and prosecute current NFF officials who embezzled money; invite more qualified candidates to run for office in the next elections; allow the FA of each state to vote openly on LIVE TV the candidate for which they voted

The last time , you called those that support the president's move fools but are you so dimwitted not to understand that all you highlighted above will be tantamount to "interference"(according to fifa) and would attract the same ban?
In case you dont have an inkling, the Minister met with FIFA officials after our ouster and intimated them of the massive waste and fraud in the NFF and how they need to probe the activities. What did the monster FIFA say? They chose to cover the criminals at NFF and warned the goverment of interference. What was the Government to do after that? Jonathan didnt just wake up and take the decision. Government had reached out to FIFA about our peculiar case before this decision but the corrupt FIFA(Note that Blatter is FIFA and FIFA is Blatter) would not hear of any probe.

You all should go siddon for corner jare .

I thought they said Oshiomole is not doing anything in Edo state that he is only playing dirty politics?

Jonathan should put a call through to fifa and show Blatter how he(Blatter) has been aiding and abetting the thieves in NFF. He should also remind the idi^ot  on how we spent millions in hosting the under 17 last year with no one accounting for anything.He also should not forget to highlight how the NFF thieves defrauded Nigerians by inflating the salary of Lagarback so that they can share in it.
Then in a steady but stern voice, my President should tell Blatter to go jump into the atlantic ocean while on one of his trans-atlantic flights.

The 300-500 naira per match, is it inclusive of the drinks/popcorn? If they still have to buy your drinks after paying that to watch a match, then you better have a re-think.

Also, I hope you know you have to pay HITV the fee for a commercial package?

chidichris:
this is absolutely not wrong.
how can millions of soccer loving nigerians suffer from that problems of a few greedy idiots.
efcc as usual shld go after the criminals or has jonathan suddenly lost faith in the almighty efcc.
if we go on strike for 2 yrs, are we going to employ americans to work as our nff officials at the end of the day or is it still going to be the same nigerians?
if all our sins is calculated, who will stand before God? if this whole idea of desolving or disbanding is the new style, is jonathan worthy to be our president or is the pdp worthy of entering and staying in aso rock?

Please watch the news . There is already an interim body in place made up of people who know what its all about. Among their brief is to draft a new guideline/constitution that governs the NFF.This may ensure that no thief nor novice(in football matters) can ever get into NFF again.

[quote author=Okija_juju link=topic=471655.msg6317247#msg6317247 date=1278021269]This ban has been long overdue. I think[b] the ban should encompass the whole sporting federation and not just NFF/Super eagles. [/b]
The question is every time that there is a sporting competition involving Nigeria, the federal government pulls out millions/billions of naira for our flags to be flown proudly at these competitions and they always come back with nothing.
When was the last time Nigeria achieved anything of worth in any competition? The last Olympics was testament to the decay in the sorts ministry. I think he should ban not just football.

What about swimming, table tennis, athletics, volleyball, basketball, lawn tennis, golf, e.t.c. Its like Abacha died with our sports.
I say the ban was a move it the right direction. Investigate the past administration, bring in technocrats to run the new administration, renovate/build sports complexes around the nation, and lets hope that this would be the end of this present plague of bad luck following us in every sporting competition.[/quote]All those sports and associations dont get 1/20th of the amount expended on football and NFF.

For the umpteenth time, if Government sacks NFF, probes LULU or intimidates LULU to resign, the thieves will still run to FIFA and FIFA will ban so Jonathan says hey, we need t o change this NFF and restructure the sport so the best thing to do is pull out by ourselves(before any ban) That gives us options to hurry up whatever we need to do while FIFA still ponders at the situation and in no time(believe me), go back to FIFA and tell them we are now ready to play ball(with a brand new NFF).

tbk, you need to chill out. There are a lot more important things than football.

0hsisi:
Definitely not his looks
He must be

1.Loaded financially
2.Loaded anatomically

Those are the only 2 reasons why a woman will even look the direction of these[b] short engines wey look like that Ijaw footballer[/b] (I don forget im name) talk less of saying hi.
They said he can slice Okro with with teeth,which pretty woman will look his way if he didn't poses the 2 needed qualities?
anybody can manage a man no matter how bad he looks as long as he's loaded where it matters

In reference to the part in bold, its obvious you dont know the guy or ever seen him because he is a tall guy and can never be called short engine

tunku:
Prince if you disband the NFF you get banned anyways. This was a preemptive move by the President that cut off Fifa at the knees in order to get rid of the corrupt NFF. Don't you idiots understand? If the NFF is to be disbanded Nigeria would have been banned anyway.

My guy, this is what some of us have been trying to let them understand. I highlighted some reasons why this was done on page 6 of this thread. They don't think through but just jump in and start cursing all around the place.

Dont you guys get it? If he goes first to ban NFF, its the same interference and that would immediately provoke the FIFA ban. He wisely withdrew our teams from football(purportedly for 2years ). This has suddenly given us options. The thieves at NFF can then be probed and dealt with while FIFA is left scratching its head on what to do. What stops Jonathan from going back after 1 month and requesting to be admitted back(with a brand new NFF).

Please we ask again, with the billions of naira expended on the NFF and our National team, what have we gained? Is football the only thing that engages the youth? What about millions that are unemployed? If we cant provide them jobs, dont they at least deserve to know what we do with the Nation's money?

A cancerous part of the body most often than not, needs to be totally cut off for the whole body to Live. The NFF is a cancer that needs to be taken away at the roots. Thats why this was done.

Please for those who are screaming that Jonathan doesnt know anything at that he doesnt know FIFA rules, I assure you that he does know the rules and the consequences.

mikeansy:
The BAN is the only chance to even attempt to do anything differently. Otherwise Sani Lulu will elect himself and hold the whole country to ransome based on some FIFA regulation. Why can't some of us in Nairaland reason?

The ban will not guarantee change or better fortunes, but it is the only choice to change things. The FIFA regulation was designed for societies where people have shame and where people resign if found corrupt. It is not designed for Africans. Sani Lulu will never give way for change to happen.


All this one folks are talking, the way the PTF are being decisive about this tells me somebody in FIFA may have given Government a nod to do this. Keep in mind that Lars Lagerback for some reasons lodged a copy of his contract with FIFA and so FIFA may be aware of the shenanigans that goes on in Nigeria. So folks chill.

It is also possible to flush Sani Lulu and co out, hand football to ex-players who may know what they are doing, re-organise the structure of the local league and 12 months down the line, re-apply to re-join FIFA meanwhile Sani Lulu may be cooling his backside in jail if he does not play ball.

Thank you very much. People are just being emotional and not really looking at the big picture. For crying out loud, Jonathan and his whole household knows the consequences and the nonsense that the monster FIFA, bandies about(banning federations for interference). What in the world do they mean by government interference?
The Government spends millions of dollars of tax payers money on Football just for some thieves to hijack it and when the same Government asks for accountability, the equally corrupt FIFA screams suspension!. The only reason the Government thought up this move was to preempt FIFA. BIO immediately set up a committee to probe the NFF after our ouster at the world cup but FIFA came out to cover the criminals at NFF by touting the ban. This nonsense has got to stop.
LULU and the entire NFF officials have already perfected ways to perpetuate themselves in office. We all know how they bribed all the chairmen of all the states FAs and paid for their trips to SA(those are the people to vote in the August elections). We need to make a clean break.

Think about it! Are we not being selfish by just wanting to watch football and satisfy our fleshly desires for entertainment? What about the millions of youths who dont have jobs? How would you feel if you hear people offering an arrogant footballer somewhere 100 thousand dollars just to qualify from a group while you have never had the opportunity of earning a stipend as salary let alone bounties? A responsible government owes it to such people to probe such misappropriation of funds(over 900million).And the only way to do this is to have a clean break even at the risk of a FIFA ban.

But mark it! this is the beginning of the end of the nonsense rule by FIFA. France is relentless in their own probe. Soon Italy will stand up to be counted. FIFA has become too big for its shoes.A government that spends money on its Football, has a right to interfere in the country's football.

An official in Italy said and I quote "To come back to Italy the team does not deserve a business-class flight. If there were a trans-African train they should come back with that."

Can,t this uncle just start some other business with the money he is wasting on music videos? This whole music and video misadventure is insufferable.

ruffrider:
Why do you people keep trusting these people on line.  It for fun when you are bored.  I don't understand.   What about meeting people the old fashion way: parks, stores, friend's cookout, etc.  
It's fun, but hell no, i don't trust them, hello no.

Sadly, longer working hours, deadlines, targets and , yes technology too, have affected the traditional ways of doing things

I guess the people who are doubting whether the girl is a scammer are just reading her wall posts now. How do you explain her facebook status reading "Maga don pay" the same week she collected the money and just a day after the OP opened this thread?

Are you guys expecting her to confess on Facebook?

Na wa for you people o

Jencejyde:
why are you even commenting on this and even as someone said that you should stick to Economics, with what you just posted, i don't even think you truly understand the principles of Economics. why don't you take a look at your comment and judge for yourself if it actually makes sense.

Actually the only thing I fault in his post is the part where he called others retarded. Apart from that, he is spot on on other things.

12large:
landtraza abeg shut up with that biafra nonsense, i see three hausa players in nigeria team for 2014
ahmed musa
rabiu ibrahim
haruna lukman

plus any we may find in the future. add those to okoro,azeez,nwankwo,obinna,martins,chrisantus,mikel and you can make a world class attacking team

Stop being silly! Rabiu Ibrahim and Haruna Lukman are yoruba boys. They are only moslems hence the names. duh

Yakubu Aiyegbeni should please leave this country alone forthwith. I cant understand the kind of spell he has on the NFF and any coach that gets appointed(and i mean any).

He plays football like a 65 year old man. Kept giving away potential scoring chances as he backs into the opponent with hands showing. Horrible horrible player.

If the NFF and the coaches cant get themselves out of the grips and spell of this man, let them cry out for help. This cant continue

[quote author=mama-gee link=topic=457503.msg6265264#msg6265264 date=1277243260][color=deeppink]Yakubu is a shameless, fat excuse for a player!

Just can't believe how he managed to get a contract with Everton.

Ohhh, I forgot. . .English clubs suck![/color][/quote]He cant hide anymore. The spotlight is now on him much more than before. Whatever he does to our National coaches and NFF to always get into the team, they must rebel against and exorcise the evil from their midst .