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[quote author=naija-doll link=topic=486788.msg6468117#msg6468117 date=1280341892]thank God I stick to my catholic ,  becos the uncertainty of some pastors are overwelming, some terrible pple just wake up one day and get into pastoral works without the full rite of passage, u go hear say one baaad person after 6 mnths don turn pastor, no be like that,  at least these pastors suppose dey 5yrs or more b4 they push them reach pastor position ![/quote]Dont even go there. With all their years in seminaries and convents, its Catholic priests that are abusing and despoiling minors everywhere and engaging in homos*exual acts.

kay bently:
@ domniue i dont hate uti am just disappointed over the fact that he had to touch sensitive issues like that , Ethiopians dont play with their culture and religion , am still voting him to stay, funny enough i just voted

Never mind. For now the disgusting Lesb*ian sex*ual act between Meryl and Sheila is covering up the loud mouth Uti's tactlessness

But everyone wants to be called pastor these days.

Well, what do we have in there? Lesbian s*ex on International tv. It seems those girls Sheila, Meryl and Tatiana went there with their minds made up that they would have se*x with other females.

What a shame.

But the Stanley Okoro issue was a blatant case of age cheating. I was embarrassed each time he touched the ball and cringed whenever he attempted to score because that would mean him celebrating and thereby necessitate a camera close up 

But I have a different opinion with the girls.

phizman:
@slimnike,
dat reminds me, who knows if CTL can strike a deal with DSTV or even wangle show matches FOC
I currently have CTL & HiTV and intend purchasing DSTV real soon because of d EPL, I don't know if to sell the CTL along with the HiTV which is definitely going out for sale. because i no wan make mistake oooh!!! if CTL fit tap, then there might be no need for d expensive DSTV subscription,
I'M REALLY CONFUSED!!! PLEASE ADVISE,

I have a strong feeling CTL will work something out with DSTV. They have always done that.

In the east(Enugu), CTL used to offer CNN,Cartoon Network, Hallmark, etc. All DSTV licensed channels. And it was open and blatantly done so I dont think they were stealing it.

haboosa:
@ Soloqy I dont seems to understand why people come to this forum to brag without the bragging rights and facts, why do all this Nigerian best players , somebody like Mike Eneramo , Endurance Idahor(rip), Stephen Worgu, Aliyu mohammed, mike ochei,emeka nwwana,even obinna nwaneri etal whom in their days with the Nigerian premier league plays for eyimba(except mike eneramo and enduarance idahor plays for Lobi and dolphins respectively)rushed for greener pastures in a war scattered country like sudan(after a successful season) if Nigerian league is good at all, i want to tell you that Bayelsa united despite the fact that the were the defending champions of the league has relegated due to poor funding, it is here in Nigeria that a club will be owing there players sign on fee for the whole season, infact Heartland is also having some problems rocking them too, for me i hate people bragging without fact as i see that in you.
Note: Obinna nwaneri went for trials in alhilal(sudan) before he eventually signed for esperance du tunis

I would advise you to read people's comment properly before you get aroused into making a comment. My comment on Enyimba was a direct reply to someone here who said they dont earn a much as a maigard. Please scroll up and see it. I didnt mention any other club apart from Enyimba. Besides what is so scandalous about what I said? How much does a fresher in a new generation bank earn now? 80K? 77k? Please go find out.

The mentality of a Nigerian player(and coaches) is such that anywhere else is better than home as long as they would be listed as foreign based. Yusuf played for Enyimba for some years and won champions league with them but he never got invited to the National team till he moved "abroad" to Sudan.

Now check all those names you listed that went to Sudan for "greener pastures" like you say. Is it not the same team they all went to? One single team in Sudan controls the money and the league and you want to compare the standard of play to Nigerian League? Even with all their money, how many times has Alhilal od Sudan gone into the group stages of the Champions League? It statistics we are dealing with here and not mere hearsay. Now compare that to how many times Nigerian teams get into the group stage of Champions league. Statistics dont lie.

I would urge you to discard your mindset about the state of the pitches and all those lapses you mention and try and watch the Nigerian league matches on Super sport select and you will have a little more insight on their game play.

All that aside, I would still want to bring you back to my earlier point that I was directly countering what someone said about Enyimba players not earning up to Maigard's salary.

Before you continue arguing with me unnecessarily, please note that Sharks is not the most buoyant team in Nigerian League but they paid 7million Naira as sign on fee for Victor Ezeji and Victor has now moved to Rangers for even better pay. You can read it here : http://www.kickoff.com/news/14027/victor-ezeji-dumps-sharks-for-rangers.php . Someone will jump in and say that 7 million is not much as sign on fee but some English clubs still pay such an amount for players: Silvestre- Arsenal anyone remember?
Its well documented that Heartland, Rangers and of course, Enyimba pays better than sharks. You talk about teams in Nigeria having financial difficulties as if its only in Nigeria. Its a global trend my friend. Valancia came third in the La Liga but they are bankcrupt and thats why they are selling any one they can so that they can pay their depts. Thats why David Villa has gone, David Silva has gone and about four more that you will be hearing about soon.

Do you realize that  Barcelona didnt pay the salaries of players in June? Please go find out.Its well documented. What about Portsmouth? The issue with people on Nairaland is that when it involves Nigeria, it becomes a never heard of taboo but when its in some foreign land, well its normal after all.

You try and objectively digest all I have said to you now before I give you more info on the players in Enyimba and some other teams and how much they earn.

haboosa:
@soloqy What is your stand ? as have carefully read all your comment you dont seems to have a stand,DSTV for me i think is better than HITV
and for the issue of Eyimba i think you dont understand what is call Nigerian League at all, abeg how many years have you been following Nigerian League?

How can you read all that I posted and still come to the conclusion that I dont have a stand? What exactly do you mean by stand? Did I not clearly state the issues with Hitv? Is it not pretty obvious that DSTV is better than Hitv? Did you read the first part of my post at all or did you just read only the Enyimba bit?

@sagamite, I bet if the Nigerian girls were good looking, this your argument wouldnt have arisen. For your information, if you take a line-up photo of the Colombian, mexican  or any other South American *SENIOR* team girls, you would not see any difference between those and those of their under 20s. Its just their make-up.

However, you can see how the German under 20 girls look? They look quite advanced in age and thats not to say that they are not under 20s. Thats why you cant use the mere pictures to try to force a point through.

I see 15-18 year old boys and girls around me and its obvious that generation of teens grow very big and mature fast. If you have a cousin, nephew/niece or even sister in that age bracket, go take  look. The only reason why you are feeling this way is that coupled with the fact that they are big, unfortunately, the girls are not eye-candy.

But who cares? Na face we won chop abi na cup we won win?

PapaBrowne:
Those British folks are some crafty fraudsters!

HiTV wanted just 4 days extra to present their guarantee. But they hurriedly called DSTV to come and pay $100 Million.

You know why?? Because that way, they(the british) get $140 million. Based on the bid agreement, HiTV loses the $40 million deposit it paid. 

Sad thing is that just 4 years ago, DSTV was paying $4 million for the same rights. You would think they should be glad to have HiTV as a new friend. But no, the backstabbers that the British have always been known to be, would rather have the White South Africans dominate the landscape.

Even more annoying is the fact that Sanusi, the cause of this loss wants to take all our banks and give it to the same White South Africans!!
This is an apogee of rapery on Nigeria's only hope- The Private Sector!

In reference to the part in bold, yes DSTV was paying just 4million dollars for the license four years ago but your man Toyin Subair, in a desperate move to take the license, bid almost 10 times that amount(it was a closed bid). So they in effect, set themselves up for failure. Probably with the belief that the seemingly endless streams of cash flow from corrupt politicians would continue.
This also tells me that they had no other plan for the company than the EPL. DSTV didnt push them to make that bid , did they?

A lot of us are former HITV loyalists and we say, good riddance to bad rubbish. If Hitv had retained this License, they probably would have raised the subscription to 9k or something of that sort. Which brings me to another point. Do you realize that in all the years of DSTV operating in Nigeria, they have never done an increase of more than Five percent in their subscription fee at any given time? But Hitv, after hoodwinking Nigerians and deceiving us into accepting them as the messiah to 'save us from DSTV', they did an almost hundred percent increase in one fell swoop.
Do you realize that contrary to what you and other stake holders of Hitv would have us believe, that DSTV actually employs a lot more Nigerians both directly and indirectly than HITV. Is it only in your Ebutte Metta office and the recent Issac John street office that you employ the 'millions' that you guys claim?

Do you realize that local content on DSTV is much more than Hitv can ever dream about? While Hitv was busy chasing people around, DSTV was equally busy gathering people around and looking for ways to engage people with ideas thus we now have so many Nigerian-focused channels and programs on DSTV.

As Adam told Cain after he got angry at Abel's accepted gift , "If you do what is right, would you not be accepted"?

[quote author=invisible! link=topic=484520.msg6442781#msg6442781 date=1279970781]@nex, how much is the sign on fee of an enyimba player? Is it enough to pay a healthy mai guard? Why should we blindly follow the local league with all its negativities, same way we ask for our blind leaders with all their mediocrity. If I have my way, a Brit will be ruling Nigeria by now![/quote]The part of your post that I highlighted, tells me that you know nothing of Nigerian football let alone ENYIMBA FOOTBALL CLUB. I am gum-smacked to read such a thing from you. Its Enyimba you are talking about and most of the players earn more than freshers in Nigerian second generation banks.

And you can quote me on that.

haboosa:
no be sanusi do them oo na them do themselves [b]imagine whenever there is rain Hitv will be fluctuating , [/b]i think Naija still need a very long way to go to catch up with the rest of the world, i was not surprise at all

Whenever it rains, DSTV fluctuates too

estatemark:
let us support our Falcon

Thank you. That Which is the original purpose of this thread but as always, some know it all, ever postulating individuals will turn it to some political rigmarole. Its sickening.

Take it to the politics forum or maybe a thread dedicated to the ills of President Goodluck Jonathan.

Princek12:
Do yourself a favor and remain in your village. When did "foolish" become foul and abusive language? So according to you, the Bible is replete with foul and abusive language! Even so, freedom of speech includes the freedom to use  abusive language, as long as the language is not racist, is not hateful, is truthful, or is not meant to incite violence or a riot. Your mentality is typical of many Nigerians, so when, for example, a person like you becomes president you will have an Abacha-like behavior--that is, to silence anyone who calls you names you deem abusive, such as calling you a fool. Again, according to you, if the president steals our money and makes silly, rash decisions, I should not have the freedom to call him a silly thief. Get a life!

I am beginning to accept that Nigeria's problems are its people, and that is why lack of freedom and corruption abound everywhere. And also that is the same Nigerian mentality that asks young people to keep quiet and not voice their opinion when their elders are around, even if that opinion were valuable. Furthermore, that is the same mentality that says young people cannot become business executives even if they have the talent to do so because it is disrespectful to "boss" around their elders. Facebook, Microsoft, among others, were all started and ran by young people because the culture embraced young minds, even though those young people "bossed" around older people.

By the way, to all the people attacking me for using the word "fool," can you all define  fool?

Would you quit being so cantankerous and stop bringing a very bad aura into an otherwise friendly and nice atmosphere/thread.

Its only you who knows what freedom of speech is about.

You seem to be the kind who will take a grudge to the grave.

Nonsense. Calling a president of a country names

suprted:
HiTV should have started small.  Check my old posts, I asked why anyone should pay (at the time 3500) for just football.  

Someone above said try going up against a multinational and yet over here your typical Wasim's Kebab Korner type shop does well even though there is McDonald's around the corner.  It's figuring out what works, it's offering services that the other people don't have, it's setting a price-point that allows you to be competitive and yet not bankrupt oneself.  

Had HiTV purchased a percentage of the games instead of full rights then they could have continued to grow, raised their market share slowly, raised their profit margins.  How are they expecting to break even?  to make back the 40 million a season they spent, they'd need 1 million subscribers (going on 150 naira to $1).  And that's without factoring the running costs of a business, the hardware, the staff, marketing etc etc.

Great post there.

What was the point of a company that is just a fledgling in business in trying to get exclusive rights to the EPL if not to just point a finger to his former employees(yes he had something with DSTV).
What happened, should tell every other business person to be flexible in business matters. Mr Subair was not listening to the best advisers a business person could ever have, his customers. I got hitv the first week they launched and we were pioneers in the HITV thread where we initially tried to drum up support for an indigenous company. More still when we felt a messiah had come to deliver us from the perceived ills of DSTV.

We didnt know we were being tempted by wolves in sheep clothing. Why do I say this? Its extremely wicked to charge 6k for the nonsense hitv was putting out there. You only had saturday and sunday and maybe some wednesdays to enjoy hitv so why would any right thinking person charge 6k for that?

After they increased  fees so many of us swore never to subscribe to hitv and went for DSTV.

Just like some people here mentioned, we were baffled that HITV stuck with the 6k regime when it was clear it wasnt working. Why couldnt the management swallow their pride and take the fees down to the earlier fees and as such, get many more subscribers?

HITV was busy chasing viewing centers about and prosecuting CTL and even the boss at Multichoice for the Spanish La Liga rights infringement when they started. This seems to me as a company that has burnt its bridges so the option of trying to work something out with DSTV maybe a dead end.

What stopped HITV from calling all the smaller cable operators and giving them a reduced license fee to carry the EPL in different parts of the country? CTL was very strong in the south east and there are other small ones that do well in other parts. But no, Mr Subair was so engrossed in the exclusivity thing even when it was at an astronomically high price(they paid far too much for the first license while trying to outbid DSTV).

What is the way forward HITV/Subair? Have you guys looked towards the French League, German League, Dutch League , Portuguese League? These leagues are no where near the EPL license in costs so HITV can channel  funds and equipment towards getting these ones(nothing stops you from getting up to two or even three of them). Football is football in Nigeria and even when under 7s play a tournament, you would still see people who will go to watch. We know the follower-ship wont be as much as the EPL but the idea is to offer your current subscribers and would be subscribers an alternative.

Also, please please, build on your content. The three years DSTV didnt have EPL, they actually sold more decoders than any other. They packed their bouquets with channels and different things to watch its unbelievable. They were always thinking ahead. Because of the HITV blunder in the pricing regime, i slowly weaned myself of EPL and started enjoying DSTV without the EPL. This also shows that hitv can retain customers with other quality content.

For the people still using HITV, the viewing centers and sports clubs are your friend now. At least there is dual view and all the other different technologies that makes watching football on DSTV a delight.

I have looked at that picture and that baby has flat, broad, african nose. wOW.

But she looks a little like an afi though.

Had this beating been handed down to some civilian like myself, I would have probably formed a group on facebook to fight it.

But hey, its LASTMA!

And the truth is that you cant vouch for any of them. Most of them were political touts and thugs during the elections who were giving jobs by Lagos government to help their lives but they have taken all their filth into the place.

Thats how two of them (criminals) accosted me on a sunday coming back from church just after the law school area on Ozumba Mbadiwe. These two suddenly jumped in front of my car from the top of the okada they hired(is it not convenient how they always seem to have an okada nearby to jump on?)They told me that they had been following me from the 1004 area of the traffic light and that i jumped the light. I was more surprised than angry because I never did. I was just trying to get their gist properly and wound down my passenger glass to hear them out and that was the mistake cause the criminal just put his hand inside, opened the door and sat in the car.

Suffice to say that that was a journey that ended up with them giving me all manner of threats and calling their colleagues(on a sunday) and finally defrauding me of Five thousand naira. This final humiliation was carried out right in front of their office at Adeola Odeku.

And so my day that began with me going to church, minding my own after church and never, never jumping a red light, ended with me being defrauded of 5k and getting home hours after i should have.

I still remember the faces of those two Lastma thieves and when I read this story, I could picture their faces in my mind and wished it was them.

phreakabit:
As for you soloqy you are obviously not Igbo or mentally challenged,I just hope medical researchers can come up with a cure for your situation soon.Good luck bro!

Quit being a slowpoke. Saying the truth is liberating.

All these people here being all defensive that its not igbos. Please let it rest. Its Igbos. Like the other person said, its only the person that knows that terrain that can use the terrain well. The kidnapping in the creeks are done by idiotic and diabolic Niger deltans(just those involved).These ones in the east, are done by greedy, monstrous and totally annoying igbos(those involved). Its a shame. If a yoruba youth starts stealing, its usually because he is hungry or in a very desperate situation. The Niger deltans had their excuse even if its been hijacked by criminals. But when an igbo person is involved in crime, check the person well and you would find that its not always because the person is in dire state financially. Its usually just the inordinate urge and greed to amass wealth and by extension, buy the latest cars and figure prominently in the home-town meetings.



Before you jump in and try to figure out where the hell am from to be talking about Igbo, just know am Igbo too.

Oburo onye kwuo ezi okwu, ama nna ya echie.

ud4u:
Not quite long I opened account with them that I started hearing that fraudulent people use to clone people's ATM Cards to withdraw their money, especially GTB accounts.

The question now is;

1.  Why is it rampant with GTB?

2.  Are there some insiders that specialize in this dreaded business?

Please anybody with the above answers are welcome

So @ poster, I don't know whether the above questions are one of the reasons they want you to check your balance with ATM or through Net.

Cheers

With every success comes diverse challenges. In Nigeria now, GTB can be said to be a successful brand and the accolades keep coming(they just won another award).
Its therefore not surprising if they become a target of fraudsters. But these fraudsters, most often than not, get away with their crime due to the carelessness of the customer. Take for instance, the fake mails from fake websites claiming to be from GTB, asking people to go online and add their pin and debit card numbers. GTBANK has made so much noise about this emails and have always told customers that they will never ask anyone to send their pins or card numbers on a website but people keep falling into that trap and keep losing money.It happened recently to a girl I know. This is not GTbank's fault is it? You cant say there was an insider that created a fake website(even the domain is different from GTBank domain so how people fall into this trap is beyond my comprehension).

But this issue may not be site wide and may just be a measure put in place by the particular branch to decongest their banking hall .

Anyways, for you and maybe Blue Mallam who have serious bones to pick with them, GTBank has a thriving and official Facebook page. Just search for it and go there and embarrass them with your comments and posts on their wall. Even if someone doesnt reply you, at least you will be sure they are aware of the issues.

dr chic:
Haba, why vex for the guy? Abi you too dey choir for HOTR?
 

I no dey any church choir but we need to talk responsibly. Imagine if some guy at your work place gets married and you hear someone saying that he slept with all the girls at your work place before getting married. Where does that place you?

Well, if you think that statement is not reckless, then no qualms.

honeric01:
yea she is.

girl, make we relate

honeric, shey you no read wetin I dey try convey to you? Unless you are 20,21,22 maybe 24 sha.

texazzpete:
Churches are far worse. People will be blasting their loudspeakers, keeping innocent Nigerians up at night all in the name of 'night vigils'.

Mosques now have night vigils, congregate on sundays and everything. They dont want to be outdone by the Christians. They believe those are the times the Christians convert moslems.  

Like someone said here, why is it that people dont read and analyze other posts but are in a hurry to throw tantrums? Its like if they don't get in there own tirade, their manhood will be lost.

Right from the start, the target was not the teams. Its been explained so many times in other threads. The target has always been LULU. GJ played his own hand in a card game. Thats why all of a sudden, nine members got up and impeached the three 'musketeers.' . It wouldnt have happened cause LULU and the others would have gone to fifa if GJ had come directly to probe,ban or sack them. Now the plan worked, why would he still keep the earlier decision(which was just to preempt FIFA and by extension the NFF).

Please, GJ already knew the impliations and consequences and the intention was not to keep the teams from playing. Its the same way Yaradua, after agreeing with FIFA to host the world cup, suddenly told the same FIFA that we were not hosting it anymore. What happened then? The thieves brought down the amount requested by billions before Yaradua, yet again, reversed a decision making two reversals. You play your cards well to get what you want.

If i am indispensable at my work place and I love the job, I could decide to ask for a salary raise or I quit work. If i get the raise, why would i still quit the job that i love? I just said that to be in a position to bargain.
You people should free my President abeg.

honeric01:
U fine sha, abi nobi u be that?

And she looks young, very very young.

hugooh42:
Sammy Okposo Whose life did he destroy? I thought he was a Christian . . .


Yes, a christian and a choir master for that matter. After sampling all the girls(choristers) in his church."HOUSE ON THE ROCK" now he deems it fit to settle down with one.

Very reckless statement to make.

Abi you get sister or fiancee wey dey HOTR choir wey im sample?

What you just said is that he slept with all the girls in a church choir. Does that not sound a stupid and reckless thing to say?

Its like asking how much it costs to buy a car. All cars can get you from point a to point b(well, almost all cars ).

But the driving experience is not the same. A Range Rover sport and a Volkswagen beetle cannot be compared in terms of features and driving experience but they are both cars and in lay man's explanation, car na car.

Just as they will always ask you: is it not just a website?

You need to make them tell you what and what they hope to achieve with their website and what features they need before you run off giving quotes.

medjai:
Was Mr.President expecting us to win the world cup

Far from it. Even if Eagles qualified from the group, it wouldnt have stopped this. You may say it added more fuel to the fire but the decision to restructure NFF had been taken a while back.

It could be that there are problems with file permissions or just like the error message said, it could not find the xml package.

Joomla templates are packaged with an xml file named templateDetails. The joomla installer looks in that file to ascertain the details of the template such as name, version, files and folders in the template and other parameters. If its not there, the joomla installer would fail to install the template.

But if that xml file is there, then you may have to look at your file permissions.

Princek, you argue the obvious.

Anyways, people, the Card that GJ played is beginning to get the desired result. The NFF members have sacked LULU and Ogunjobi and Amanze by themselves and apologised to the Nation. Next, FIFA will come to negotiate that we reverse our self suspension but give their permission for the restructuring of the NFF. Now thats what we have been talking about. The move was to preempt FIFA and the target was NFF not the teams but people who like to argue for the sake of it would not listen.

At the beginning of this thread, someone mentioned that she/he hates the German team cause they are racist but I told the person that it was then and not now. Below is my proof:

Sami Khedira: Powerful Midfielder, Father from Tunisia and mother from Germany.

Dennis Aogo: Defender, Father from Nigeria and mother from Germany. (Lahm is awesome and thats why he hasnt played yet at this worldcup).Part of the German side that won the under21 european championship last year.

Cacau: Striker: Totally Brazillian, no mixture.

Mesut Özil: Son of a Turkish Immigrant.(yeah, you heard me right).

Lukas Podolski: attacking midfielder, Parents are from Poland.

Jerome Boateng: Ghanaian Father

Serdar Tasci : Defender , From Turkey

Mario Gomez: Father is from Spain.

Miroslav Klose and Piotr Trochowski : both born in poland to polish parents.

Marko Marin: was born in Bosnia-Herzegovina to Bosnian parents .

So there you have it. The united nations of the German team. The primary reason why I love the team so much.