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micgray100:
OGA N3XT... PROMISE ME ON THE ABOVE...

fence/security house contract was entered on the 7th and by 19th, I paid him completely for a 2 weeks project.

n3xt:
Oga share the quote and not the chats.

can you counter what I shared with your screenshot?

Can you write it here that I didn't pay you all the fence/security house money in May?

Can you tell everyone if I'm owing you apart from the 2.5% (main building) to be paid after roofing?

micgray100:
HOUSE PLEASE ON THIS ISSUE OF OGA N3XT AND OGA SOMEHOW.... LET US WAIT FOR A PROFFESSIONAL COMPRENSIVE QS REPORT BEFORE WE TAKE SIDES.....

NO ONE SHOULD BULLY ANYONE HERE ON PAST ISSUES... THIS PROJECT STARTED WELL... AND LET US TRY TO MAKE SURE IT ENDS WELL..

OGA N3XT... YOU KNOW I RESPECT YOU ALOT... PLEASE RESERVE YOUR STRENGHT TILL THE REPORT COMES OUT... ALSO TAKE PART IF THERE NEED BE TO BE PART OF THE STAKEHOLDERS IN THE REPORT....

LETS US ALL IN THE THREAD AVOID TAKING SIDES PLEASE TILL THE RESULT COMES OUT...

Let him post chats where I suggested anything that didn't make him complete his job for the past 5 months.

Advise him to be on site when the QS is around or send someone to represent him so we don't end up hearing that the QS worked against him.

seunpinky:
@n3xt, can u please practice what u preach... Pls stop responding and arguing with your client online. When u both sealed the contract, it wasn't done online.

As u have always preached, put a call to the client and sort out whatever outstandings u have on his project.

This job was an opportunity for you to clean up the mess and bad reputation that u were known for on this forum. It is so sad seeing that u are on the verge of messing it up.

Now I understand why people like Hajj and the other respected elders have always warned newbies about u.

He threw the opportunity away on a platter of gold.

I wish him luck.

n3xt:
You’ll all be shocked at the cost of what we are dragging here.

When the QS is done, I’d be happy if he can share his report here viz-a-vis what was paid. I’ve also requested that the client conduct integrity test on the structure.

When I look at the budget the fins I’m currently doing in the project, I couldn’t but wait to receive the QS report.

A lot of times, I mediate on issues to help client finish strong on their project especially managing minor issues but I’m not so lucky getting the same help on my project so it’s no big deal.

The roof, the grill, the broken atrium cover that’ll be replaced and the security house is not even up to 8% of the project.

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Pic - Abi no be this we dey talk?

You're a selfish person
You think I'm only worried because of the outstanding jobs?

Will you pay me for the increase in other building materials for the past 4 months?

You think I'm dragging anything materials with you?

Will you refund my time wasted and the increase in other materials?

Here are jobs you're yet to do for 5 months now

Roofing (main)
Atrium roofing (glass cover)
Coppings for the roof
Facials for the roof
Roof gutter
Fins and concrete design (only wood work partly done 2 days ago and some iron work done a day ago with the help of my supervisor.

Security house block work (completion)
Roofing/decking whichever you do
German floor

These are the small work you have not done for the past 5 months!

All paid for 6 months ago.

But since you can't come to site to finish your job since 5 months now. I will take my refund and count my losses

Greenarrow01:
Next pls call somehow and sort this only
The main building only took few weeks to complete.
Why should roofing and fence now be the reason for all this

I gave him almost 5 months just to complete the job

A job of 3 months going into 7 months.

He comes on chat begging for time and all that, yet came here to be proving what?

I actually had some people warn me about him, hence the reason I was very active in December /January on this thread asking him series of questions on his previous deeds.

He claimed he had learnt from the past and thanked me for the opportunity

I wanted him to succeed with my project to give him room to grow further

My project opened doors for him which he confessed to after 7 years of not handling any private project (major).

I still want you to succeed in your career but I have reach my tolerance limit.

n3xt:
I thought you said the fence was undone. Now you wanted to know when it was casted.



You forget things easily though

There’s no security house as at May 19 because you’re undecided as at that time.
You sent us a sketch of what you proposed security house will look like on the 20th and I told you it can’t work in the small space.

I explained how having to wait for you is really delaying us.



Fence casting was completed after Sandfilling because we can’t block the fence since there’s no access to the land other than the back side of the plot.
We deliberately left the casting of the pillars for the Sandfilling to be completed.

Pic 2 - Casting was done after Sandfilling on May 15 and Sandfilling wasn’t part of the contract.



I believe you forget things easily sir. You provided for drainage in last week of May which is even weeks after proposed completion date.

Always check your records sir. You always have one thing or the other to do that’ll prevent us from completing our job.

You’ve also forgotten how much time we spent doing back and forth on fence height. And how we had to go and top it up with one more blocks.

To deliver the main structure didn’t take us more than few weeks because we had a definite plan but the small works like building a 10sqm Security house be like we are building 4th mainland bridge because of inconsistencies.

Remember we remove power house at a later time.

I know you love to lie, so I'm not surprised.

Is the fence about raising just blocks or what constitute a done work?

The pillars were casted when? It took you almost a month to complete the fence casting and I know how Francis kept using left overs from the estate project to do the work on your behalf.

Tell me what I suggested that didn't come from you.

Anything you listed here as the reason for delays came from you.

I later discovered you mostly wait deep into the project to bring reasons why this wont work or not.

All these started happening after you got all the money.

The main building is yet to be completed as at now, so which main building are you talking about?

The fins, concrete, Coppings, facials, roofing of both atrium and main building. If these are the small work, why are they still pending 5 months after?

Security floor is yet to be casted, the current stage started this month since May.

Without the presence of my personal supervisor, we wouldn't have what's currently there.

Here are screenshots from the contracts

Greenarrow01:
You self Bleep up.
There are so many instances where next have mentioned that a client is supposed to be paid certain percentage after certain milestone.
I am sure you had a well written contract with him.
Paying him for as much as 97 percent without the roof work done doesn't make sense.

You paid for the fence and gate house � without him starting a single job doesn't make sense either
There is nothing bad in you breaking down the money into 3 tranches.
Start block work with first tranche
Get to mid way with second one
Complete it with 3rd tranche

That was the plan
The QS was involved in the payment schedule, but he kept coming back to say materials were about to go up and that for him not to run into losses, I needed to act. I saw reason with him because iron rod was about 270k before we started, few weeks later, it was 305k, 315k.

I was trying to be human so as not to get him stuck, so i released in advance to get what he asked for.

For the security house, i released partly until he said he needed the rest to get all the materials at once.

I have all the chats here.

I just got tired of his excuses thereafter, I would not have been here if he didnt come to lie that only atrium was left undone, or that i was the reason for the delays.

topsy23:
Hmmm Electrical quote need to be re validate to current market price. Things have gone up in the market again becos of the new dollar rate. COLEMAN just inctrease their prices recently with about 7.5%.

Things are getting worse

You can imagine.

n3xt:
Smiles. Swindle??

Let’s hear the QS report to ascertain what was done viz-a-vis what was paid. You know I don’t compromise that’s why you wanted me on site at all cost.

Like you were not paid to be on site in the first place?

Did you not receive supervision fee?

The QS will review what was done from what was paid for.

vanbonattel:
You are very naive, a simpleton and a stubborn person, you saw all the warnings here on this thread and yet gave your money to n3xt aka brabus,

Again?

You are very naive, a simpleton and a stubborn person, you saw all the warnings here on this thread and yet gave your money to n3xt aka brabus,

Again?

Can you run along?

He cant swindle me like I said. I'm not here for that, I'm here to put things in order and to let people know I have decided to terminate the contract.

So, once again, run along.

n3xt:
Unfortunately sir, you delayed your work sir because of lack of specifications on the auditions.

Would you mind mentioning what wasn’t done on your security house that you claimed you paid 100%? And why the delay?

As at May 19, 80% of the fence work was done as shown below. Abi I was paid to plaster it ni?

You were going to build a security house on the drainage point and I told you sand fill the compound first and establish the drain off point before doing this.

Even as at last week, we were still debating what’ll be used to cover the security house. I proposed slab and you said you wanted aluminum. You also wanted a 6 pillars for a 10sqm building which I told you that you didn’t pay me for such.

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The main structure has remain same way since May and the only thing to add to it is the roofing sheet. All that’s happening in between are things off my scope of work.

Pics 2-4 | Fence May 23

When did you cast the fence?
show us the images of the security house as at May 19

Show us when the casting of the fence was 100% completed.

Have you handed over the security house and fence work yet? (Both are one project).

You're really funny. We decided where to build the SH and what to do to the drainage in person and on site and everything needed was provided.

No?

1st screenshot as at 22nd of July More than a month after the fence/security house that was to take 2 weeks.

Second and third screenshots were on the 2nd of August for the same fence that should have ended in May.

vanbonattel:
Where's prophetess mmotimo

Am sure your bad prayers against next3 caused him to fail and swindle another client

As if I didn't know it will end like this

Lotsa fraudsters cleaning guys up in this forum

He didn't swindle me, he can't swindle me. Unless he refuses to refund.

A project that should have ended since May 8th or even if I give him the rest of May.

September 26th, we're still talking about it not because he wasn't paid.

Pray you're not the kokoro eating your own efo.

I don't like exposing people's weaknesses or pour sand for their garri but some people get high from drinking garri mixed with sand.

I paid him 97.5% as early as May.

Paid 100% for security house and fence which is still undone.

Infact all payments were released in advance.

Greenarrow01:
No wonder you were trolling the page for the projects then
You were always writing .... .....
I thought you were some kinda troll
Didn't know you were the actual building owner.
That project started well and just stopped midway
I thought it was cos of funds from the owners side

Why buy glass when where you wanted to use it on wasn't ready?
Was I the reason it wasn't ready?

And I even decided to assist you with 50k to get the glass when ready which I did until recently.

Did I install tiles in April? I want to believe you understand that people with brains are on this thread.

I said I prefer tiles to aluminum sheets for the atrium walls 2 WEEKS ago, not 5 months ago. You later claimed the tiles won't work, I gave you a blank check that when you're ready, my tiler would be there to remove parts that will stop your work from working. YES OR NO?

Like I said, I gave you the condition of signing an undertaking before my lawyer to finish the project in 7 days with you being on site. You asked for 2 days to prepare, came back later to say I am pressurizing you into making commitments you can't keep.

I must have been expecting a man who didn't keep commitment for 5 months to suddenly be able to keep that of 1 week.

When I gave you 2 weeks extra months ago, you claimed it was too much to complete what's left. NOTHING happened.

My lawyer gave you another 2 weeks which you claimed to be fair, only blockwork (partly) was done directly by you in 14 days (Just 1 day work).

Everyone who worked for their money here can see the issues.

I don't want to drag, I wouldn't have said anything here until you brought it here yourself with lies that only atrium cover was left to be done.

Send whoever you're sending to site next week and be ready to refund according to the contract. That's all for now.

It's a pity you wasted my time.

n3xt:
The 10mm tempered glass bought and brought to site in April broke while we were waiting for the atrium to be ready.
I won’t make a similar mistake again delivering roofing sheets to site only to wait to be told how to install it on tiles.
I’ll rather have you finish your experimental projects and understand what to do before taking any further step.

Sir, don’t forget you told me you want to do some work on your roof before the roofing. I was shocked to see tiles on your roofing wall the way YOU WANTED IT and I even offered a refund because I and my roofer are at loss on how to do this without having leakages.

You said you want current price of doing the roof as if I charged more than the current price.

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When I said I’m going to install polycarbonate that was original quoted for as atrium cover, you said you wanted the glass that I installed initially. You offered 50k support for the broken glass and requested the money back and I send it to you because I’m not begging for help.

My QS is on this thread
My potential electrical contractor is on this thread
My potential plumber is on this thread
My potential window contractor is on this thread

Most of them know how far, they saw things themselves.

I contacted most of them months ago but due to the delays, I couldn't mobilize them.

The quotations they submitted months ago is now invalid and I must spend more to get work started

All because N3xt decided to take my being understanding for granted. Left site since May and only shows up once in green moon.

This is what you wanted, if it will help your career, fine, I tried to help you in my own little way but you think you were the smartest because I played a fool swallowing your excuses and acting as if I knew nothing about what went on on site.

n3xt:
The March 2021 contract didn’t specify that tiles will be installed by my client in September 2021 before roofing sheets are laid.

That was completely out of my scope of work and not done by me and was a change made by my client.

I’ll have to spend some time consulting other professionals to learn how to install a roof on tiles.

If you won’t mind sharing the pics of the tiles installed.

Tiles were installed when? Did you bring materials to site and the tiles then stopped you from roofing? you are clinging at straws. Tiles were installed just 2 weeks ago as I WANTED IT.

I gave you a blank check that whenever you want to install the sheets and want any of the tiles removed, I will send my tiler to do your bidding.

So tiles installed 2 weeks ago stopped you from roofing the house 5 months ago?

The atrium is also uncovered.

Is it because of the tiles?

The security house is yet to be completed after paying you 100%, the tiles caused this too?

Like I said, no longer interested in your services. I will bear the cost burden your delays and excuses have laid on my lap.

When you recommended we use steel instead of wood for the roof in April, I obliged since you were the engineer/contractor then and made funds available (obviously more than what it would have cost me for the wood) you needed.

You claimed then that your roofers were available, it took a month before they came to install the trusses after delivering the materials to site. This was even when I decided to link you up with another roofer when I got tired of your excuses (Said your roofers refused to show). This same roofer of yours showed up the day my own roofer came to site, had to send something to him for TF (His time was wasted).

Ever since then, the house has remained roofless (Almost 5 months).

Is it money that I didn't release or what? I have paid you everything since May with just 2.5% remaining which is to be paid after roofing.


So tell me, which "changes" did I introduce to the project that requires almost 5 months to apply?

What exactly is the reason why a 3 months project has now turned 7 months with the house still unroofed?

A separate contract was for a security house and dwarf fence which was entered into in May and to last just 14 days, how come that is also pending? Did I also introduce any change to that?

Lastly, the images you posted above were made possible by my own independent supervisor who sourced for 80% of the workers used so far. The only thing you did was to release payment for what they did through him. If I tell him not to oblige you, nothing would have been done. He's there on my note. The 2 weeks given to you by my lawyer only saw you working for just 1 day out of 14 days. (setting part of the blockwork for the SH).

Without my supervisor on site, we would have been stuck with just the blockwork in 3 weeks.

Like I said, your grace expired on Friday, come to site for reconciliation with my QS, if you can't make it, send anyone to represent you.

And if you are not sending anyone, my QS will go ahead to check what has been done and not done, and you will refund within the stipulated timeframe in the contract.

I swallowed series of excuses for the past 4 months just to make life easy for you, but you took me for granted, abandoned site for months.

Your delays will cost me more money to buy materials for other parts of the project I should have started 4 months ago.

I was told but I felt you would have changed 7 years after.

At least 3 persons from this thread have been to site and 2 even witnessed some unpleasant conversations from some external workers you contracted after yours refused to show up.

If I lied in what I have written above, kindly prove it.

n3xt:
How many house here needs to be plastered, screeded, painted, tiled before roofing?

There’s something called excusable delay in a project which is caused by varieties of issues. Once a change is not part of the scope of work, you allow your contractor ample time to make adjustment to his schedule.

If this won’t happen, you’ll revert back to the original design as stipulated within the contract to avoid delays or remove that part completely from the contract if it’ll lead to issues.

If none of the above will happen, then I don’t know what else to do.

A 10 mins job can take 10 hours if there are too many dependencies.

For me it’ll be an issue if the contractor is asking for variations on the contract and he didn’t foretell the implication of changes made along the line.

n3xt:
How many house here needs to be plastered, screeded, painted, tiled before roofing?

There’s something called excusable delay in a project which is caused by varieties of issues. Once a change is not part of the scope of work, you allow your contractor ample time to make adjustment to his schedule.

If this won’t happen, you’ll revert back to the original design as stipulated within the contract to avoid delays or remove that part completely from the contract if it’ll lead to issues.

If none of the above will happen, then I don’t know what else to do.

A 10 mins job can take 10 hours if there are too many dependencies.

For me it’ll be an issue if the contractor is asking for variations on the contract and he didn’t foretell the implication of changes made along the line.

2 can play the game.

n3xt:
Like seriously?

Pls kindly share your story sir. Let us learn.

One thing I can say is you have nothing against me sir. I repeat nothing.

I’ll be happy to have you share the things you don’t want people to hear here. Let us all hear it!

We shall soon see.

The 14 days legal mandate expired on Friday, you asked for 2 extra days to consider the conditions I gave you after you asked for a lifeline.

Incase you dont know. More than 5 people on this thread are privy to what has been happening. I chose not to rat you out for future sake, but if you want to self-destruct, there's not much I can do about that.

I chose not to do media stuff because I didn't enter a contract with you on the media in March 2021 for a 3 months project.

IDnoble80:
You deliver the carcass since may? Took you 5 month to roof the house?? I don’t. Does it means there is financial problem from client end? Or any other issue we need to know?
Apparently somehow is the owner of the project
I come in peace

Let him answer you. I am not the noise type but I know when and how to respond.

He's going to be the one that'll expose himself since he wants to toll this lane.

n3xt:
No more updates to be honest bro. My contract is to deliver the carcass which has been substantially completed since May and the only thing left is to cover the atrium roof.

170sqm 0.55 gauge Longspan Aluminum.

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I’m sorry if you were expecting to see windows, doors, plastering etc, They’re not included in my contract.

Dont get me started for your own good.

I repeat again, for your own good, dont go there.

princewarri1985:
Says who? That means you are not current then because it happened in warri here when Notorious criminal/kidnapper was being escorted to court in broad day light kelvin gang ambushed the prison warders and kelvin was freed and some officer were killed, it was a real life prison break which took place in warri

Prison break is different.

They can be exceptions but not on a multiple scenarios.

ClassicMan202:
At least Nigeria own na police go release them intentionally

Not after having a day in court.

When they release, they replace the person with a willing double body who already got paid by the main criminal.

nograv:
I know, everyone knows abookis don't read

Small mindedness.

Born2conquer:
This is something I will be doing, even thought it will be costly, breaking( making a hole) into a fence/wall to gain entry into a house is very easy and I believe Doors/burglaries are mainly formalities since there are alternatives for people who mean business.

The fence we built is 3 coaches higher than most standard fences and we will be filling the fence block holes with iron rods that �� let’s see how ypu wil break block and also cut through the iron rods.

Note: Doing this is expensive

Instead of iron rods, why not fill the holes with concretes or which is better?

[quote author=nograv post=106148530][/quote]Done?

Hope you know I didnt read it?

Obinnau:
Somebody remind me what's the difference between India and Nigeria again?

You hardly hear about anyone being killed in court here.

You also hardly hear about criminals escaping on their way to court multiple times.

This Indian security body weak o.

Imagine arrested criminals escaping anyhow.

People survive on half of what you earn even in Lagos

Infact, married people.

It's good you highlighted what you wanted for yourself and followed through, some are living the life the society dictated for them.