₦airaland Forum

DiademSh07:
How has ibo helped Nigeria?
The ibo greediness led to the killing of leaders of every tribes save for theirs, which eventually led to the civil war!
The ibo greediness led to Ironsi centralizing power, stopping Nigeria's regional federalism in the process!
The ibo selfishness led to Zik and Ironsi truncating SW and SS succession respectively!
They clamour for biafran but no one is stopping them from carving and retreating into their landlocked region to settle there!
Yeye dey smell.

story for the gods...you can spew your hate speech elsewhere, no sane nigerian in nairaland will buy it. Curse us if u wish, but God will keep u alive to watch us buy your lands and feed your family. I only have regards for nigerians who are unbiased. Your revisionist madness is legendary. Love or hate us, it wont change our progressive instincts. Proud racist making genocidal boasts...if dem born your papa well, try it in this age and time, this time, no britain, russia, or america to help u, infact, they pray we split up. Go n lick ebola...

DiademSh07:
No one stopped the coup.
It was after the Hausa raised alarms that Ironsi put the coup plotters in jail. However, he refused to execute them nor tried them because they are his kinsmen!
Stop rewriting Nigeria history, oh ye ibos!

now i know, that you are a biased and moronic igbophobic e-diot! Ironsi held the capital (lagos) with strong resistance. Ojukwu (in kano) frustrated nzeogwu's garnering support. Go to hell you foolish bastard. history and posterity will never be kind to you and your family. Insecure revisionist!

DiademSh07:
See lies! No be only crushed, you'll soon see swooshed!
Bunch of liars!

so who stopped nzeogwu and co if i may ask? Answer or keep silent...i hp am discussing with a learned fellow?

DiademSh07:
Go and die! I don't envy you ibos at all!

...and we are not asking for your envy...'notice-me'...

DiademSh07:
That's inconsequential because majority of the coup plotters are ibos. Stating 1 yoruba man doesn't discount it as ibo coup.
I already told you how the coup came to be! It was planned to kill all the leaders in Nigeria until the ibos in the coup hijacked the plan and centered it around them.
As you saying Ironsi crushed them when he refused to try the coup plotters nor execute them by law because they are his kinsmen?
You mean putting them in an eastern prison where they had access to their families whereas other prisoners were taken far away from home is crushing them?
Are you saying, putting them in a pseudo prison which only operate during the day but by night, these plotters are seen partying and visiting their home is what crushing them means?
If all these are justice to you, then you're a big Morön!

calm down...easy does it, okay? Now listen, when a coup is planned by igbos and crushed by other set of igbos, do you call that an 'igbo coup'? Think again...this same coup plotters were called revolutionaries in many quaters, it was a touchy issue, and remember, you cannot say ironsi was favouring the same guys planning to execute him in the foiled coup...keep thinking...what made it seem like an igbo coup was mainly because of the infamous unitary decree, not because most of the coup plotters were igbo...got it?

scholes0:
Just listen to your old but stupid self.
Now, I have lost sanity because I have put you in your rightful place.... you are desperately trying to save face, and it isn't working.
You are still a rudderless senior citizen with the mental capabilities of a toddler.

i know, and i understand, just send your mum so we can discuss what to do with what is left of your sense of reasoning.

DiademSh07:
And the Kwale speaks ibo? State the meaning of Ukwauni in ibo and see if it correspond with the kwale meaning!
There's nothing ibo won't tell us! These people eh! It sucks to be one!

who sabi this one...? Abeg park well and find your level, who needs your family? Speak only for yourself. It really sucks to be you.

scholes0:
Just accept at this point that you have nothing more of substance to contribute to this thread...
As such, this is the point I bid farewell to your naivety.
Good riddance to arrant stupidity.

if that is the thank-you am getting in order to restore your sanity, its okay...i understand, afterall am dealing with a mentally derailed juvenile.

DiademSh07:
The coup became ibo coup because they hijacked it from Nzeogwu!
Nzeogwu's plan was to kill all Nigeria's leaders but the the ibo in the coup tip off their leaders, kill others save for theirs! That was how it became ibo coup!

you forgot to include ironsi and ojukwu in crushing the coup and jailing the coup plotters...which had yorubas like ademoyega...so no, it was not an igbo coup.

scholes0:
You should be ashamed of your grey hair ....
Your mates are using their hard earned cash to fund NGO's and benefit humanity, while you are here talking like late Sam Loko's long lost brother.

we are saying the same thing, call your mum, let her come and see me, so we can discuss how to fund your mental condition to recovery. Its my personal NGO for morons like you.

scholes0:
Worthless old man browsing nairaland from under his wife's wrapper while all your age mates are busy earning a living and benefiting the rest of humanity.
You better get a grip over yourself, before life passes you by and you become a laughing stock.

you a kinda correct, my mates are outside working while am indoor ENJOYING THE FRUITS OF MY LABOUR. Let your father or PREFERABLY YOUR MUM come and see me, i could help her rehabilitate you u know...

scholes0:
Stoopid thing...
What does SonOfEl mean anyways .....

decompose filth, it means ''scholes0 is an slowpoke trying to masturbate his ego''

scholes0:
So Wazobia are the only people in Nigeria?
No wonder you wan't to discount the account of the Niger-Deltans, and place them under perpetual subjugation...
There is God ooo ...

what a pity...an insecure boy wasting his mother's wifi...

scholes0:
Are you indirectly trying to subtly inform the rest of us on this thread, that you are a foolish old man?

its alright...i know you need your drugs...and if only there was no petrol scarcity, your pple should have easily gotten your pills...ndo...sorry eh...

scholes0:
looks like you are very eager to suffer another defeat.
This time, the igbo position will be relegated to after the Tiv and Igalas in national discourse.

pikin, if your juvenile madness needs attention, it shd not be on this thread. When the WA-ZO-BIAs are talking, either you sit and listen or go take your medical pills

scholes0:
Come and bundle me and take me away from the thread.... Immature kunt.
If Spain had won the Spanish-American war, Texas and California would have been part of the USA today.... but guess what, they did not, and Cali is US of A....

how old are you sef, to be sincere?

YonkijiSappo:
lol, Scholes take it easy on these guyz ooo...

scholes, abeg take style commot for this thread, you padi is indirectly hinting u to do so...you repeat issues...BIAFRA WAS TO INTEGRATE IGBO COMMUNITIES SHOULD BIAFRA HAD SUCCEEDED IN SECEDING...THAT WAS WHY BIAFRA HAD COMMANDERS FROM MIDWEST IGBO eg ACHUZIA, NZEOGWU...ETC,..DONT U GET IT? Abeg commot for this thread, small pikin...

scholes0:
Was Delta part of Biafra in 1967, yes or NO? ... that is like the most simple question out there.
you are stressing yourself unnecessarily.

was delta state in the then eastern region? How do you reason for God's sake? The plan was to integrate igbo communities into biafra if events had gone according to plan.

scholes0:
You do't want them in your Biafra pipe dream, because it is very clear to you, that they are not gullible.....
Was Delta state a part of the Old Eastern region? NO. yet today you want them in Biafra 2.0.....

go and enlighten yourself about the ''midwest igbos'' e.g achuzia, who fought to the last bullet for biafra...go on...google it...ojukwus plan was to integrate the midwest igbo region to biafra if events had gone as planned. if its about nzeogwu (from delta), he wil be seen as an igbo coup frontman), but if its about oil and biafra, igbo wants to dominate...see your life?

scholes0:
looolll .... Wise saying for you (and your types)

The real looser is the one who always feels the persistent need to measure up, and how do they try to achieve this? : "crude old chest beating"

Abeg go siddon, and come back when you manage to get a second Niger bridge linking into your region.

this envy must be eating you deep. Am sorry. Just continue venting it out...if it will make you feel better.

I am igbo, nigerdelta is my home. I have neighbours from other ethnicities, and our destinies are interwoven. Silly sissies like you know no better. God bless nigerdelta, God bless lower niger congress, God bless se/ss (biafra or no biafra), may God shame detractors and divisive elements like you.

scholes0:
Another obtuse reply.... Your insecurities and inner complexes are beginning to surface.
Did I talk about Ikwerre? I said Igbos are only one of the various groups in the Niger delta, you are not even up to 1/6 of the region, population wise.... fault that statement, and I would actually ascribe to you an atom of factual reasoning.

i know the truth is burning you inside, pls deal with it o...ndo...sorry.

The more you castigate igbos, the more we thrive, from asaba to portharcout, na we dey run tins...do u think we need all the oil? We have enough for ourselves, yet, we hardly use it, instead we use our ingenuity to become survive and excel. Good or bad, igbos rock!

scholes0:
Abeg Shift.... I can see you have run out of meaningful rebuttal.

(in baba fryo's voice)...weda u lyk am...weda u no lyk am, d tin sey...WE GO STILL DEY RUN TOWN.

Ikwerre is still OFFICIALLY AND GENERALLY (by MOST HISTORIANS)considered to be an IGBO SUBGROUP...my ikwerre brothers (some of you), you can deny me, (afterall peter denied jesus) fine, by i will not deny you. You are my brothers. I love u all, biafra or no biafra.

scholes0:
Well, he was being obtuse .. so I actually regard his reply as a misdirected rant ....
By the way, What is your stake? Why are you addressing me?

in your primitive mind, you think you have made an intelligent statement.

scholes0:
Stop telling me Fables by moonlight, and address the topic at hand....

Point1. You CAN seperate south east from southsouth geopolitical zone, but you CAN'T seperate igbos from the southsouth/nigerdelta zone.

Point2. You are a learner.

scholes0:
That is exactly how people who think they are superior to others talk.
So Niger Deltans doon't have the right to have a say in their region again, abi?

GEOGRAPHY 101
1. Niger delta region is a lowland that consists of tributaries leading to the atlantic ocean. It consists of geo-political states such as abia, edo, delta, imo, crossriver, akwa-ibom, bayelsa, rivers and ondo states.
2. The people within the demography as the isokos, urhobo, ika (in delta states), igbos(in delta, imo, abia, and river states), bini, ishan, auchi, igbanke-igbo(in edo states), ibibio, annang,etc(in akwa-ibom states, efik, ogoja, bekwara, ejagham(cross river state), ijaw, ogoni (bayelsa state), ijaw, kalabari, ikwerre, etche(river state), ijaw, yoruba(ondo state).

FOOLISH THREAD, are delta-igbos (e.g nzeogwu, biafran commander achuzia 'air raid', ngozi okonjo-iweala, jayjay okocha, keshi,etc) not south-south nigerdeltans too?

Is obigbo/obiokpor, and some parts of portharcourt not southsouth nigerdelta?

I have many ikwerre friends there who are proudly southsouth igbos- so SHUT THE f**k UP!

Chigold101:
nope i didnt even say he stopped Nzeogwu. someone else stopped Nzeogwu and invited him in...

whatever...just dont downplay him for stopping the revolutionaries, if u were slated for asassination, you would do the same. He had to hold a firm grip of lagos.

Chigold101:
Achebe's book "there was a country is a MEMOIR" not a history book. In memoir, you wrote what you felt at a particular point in time. not necessarily what the history said or know about the person. to me and the rest of Ndi Igbo, Ironsi messed up. That is by the way sha

fine, he messed up, but not because he stopped nzeogwu and co.

Chigold101:
my brother please dont get me wrong. Ironsi is a fine gentle man but he had no revolutionary ambition. He was not ready for what was given to him.

Let me ask u a question: if you brother kills a man‘s father (God forbid), will you employ the son of the man ur father killed as your body guard or gate man?

You said am embarrasing Igbos, please tell me where Ndi Igbo ever spoke good of Ironsi. Tell me what Igbos is doing in his honour.

Even Nigeria and the zoo keepers are not also remembering Ironsi.

Whatever Chuks wrote is not important here because Ironsi was never a part of the revolution. As i said before, the zoo keepers brought him up as the most senior officer but a vision you were not part of creating, you can never run with. Ironsi do not understand the reason for the revolution. And he paid with his life for his ignorance.

ironsi messed up because he politically naive. He had no business running the politics of a complication called nigeria, because he was not ready for it. His pride brought his fall.
However, chigold, if your brother slated you for assasination in the name of revolution, what would you do once you are able to overpower him?
Ironsi was detribalised to a fault, he did not act decisively despite the pressure he got to do so. He was too trusting and too self-confident. He was litmus test that proved how deeply fractured nigeria was both religiously and ethnically. Even the military, a neutral arm was affected by this fracture.
Anambarians especially, generally give little commendation to igbo who are not from their side. It is an unhealthy competition. Only Achebe as far as i know (in anambra) spoke generously about ironsi, in his last book 'there was a country'. Imo, ebonyi and delta people speak about him with mixed remarks. Abia people honour him but many still blame him behind closed doors. Enugu people act a bit like their anambra counterpart.

superstar1:
Really!!!!!

Have you not heard Dokubo and other ND militants always making reference to Adaka Boro, in respect to continuation of his struggle?

I am not vindictive in anyway. Just making you to realise that whatever makes the call for Biafra genuine is what makes the Republic of Niger Delta genuine, taking into cognisance an Ibo man, Aguiyi Ironsi, crushed the dream of reality of The Republic of Niger Delta.

Simple.

dokubo and co were babies when boro went into militancy, however, they (boro and co) still did not represent the general consensus of the nigerdelta people in eastern nigeria (efik, ogoja, ibibio, kalabari, igbo, etc). As at then, the oil allocation btw lagos and eastern nigeria then 50:50, not what we have today at 85:15 between nigeria and nddc

superstar1:
Really!!! Who is indeed the shallow one here.

Biafra's case is genuine and Boro's call for Republic of ND was not. That is being selfish.

Yours was based on humanitarian crisis (using your words), while his was based on resource control.

The bottomline is both were tending towards secession, based on what they believed was genuine to them.

The same way you are making us to realise that Adaka Boro's call for session was not genuine, is the same way we have been telling you that your call for secession was not genuine. Period.

your arguments are blind, lame and vindinctive. You know it. If boro case was genuine in seceeding, where are the nigerdeltans who stood and protested with him? How many even took up arms with him? Achuzie was a nigerdeltan, effiong was a nigerdeltan, oil was in their backyard, am not even mentioning southeast states that have oil, so what resource control are you talking about?