₦airaland Forum

Statsocial:
BTW don't get it twisted many private unis are already fighting to be included in TETFUND. Truly, we ought to be included in TETFUND because the students in privatr unis are also Nigerians and the money for TETFUND is obtained from the PRIVATE sector hence Private unis can't be excluded. So in due season we would join the likes of Jabu and age bablola to fight for TETFUND.

Draxler:
OP and everyone else on his side, we are wasting our time arguing with these people. Let's go out into the world and dominate, work hard and achieve greatness. Those actions will speak louder than a million words that we will type on nairaland.

TheVictorious:
Don't mind them joor. Majority are afraid of facts!

sanchos9607:
SIR. I'm not refuting your points. I don't need to. The onus is on you to provide every possible pro and counter to your argument. Your failure to do so has cast your research in doubt.

When putting forward research for peer review, it is ridiculous to throw open counterarguments to the same public you're trying to convince of the veracity of your hypothesis. It makes you look half baked. I'm sure this isn't how CU teaches its researchers to lay out their work. Otherwise it would mean you have singlehandedly proven CU isn't an academic institution worth its salt.

Statsocial:
Do I need to list the number of universities that are barely 50 yrs of age in top 200 in the world. CU's ambition is to be top 10 in the world in a few years. We've marked out the necessities to do that, we've studied the Ivy leagues for years, we've dispatched almost all of our researchers to top ivy leagues to understand how they do it. As Oyedepo would say "being excellent is not magic but a result of constant dedication to hard work" we know exactly what to do and we would replicate and do it better-we've already employed two Nobel laureates, expanded our PG school to fit THE standards, Continually funding High Impact research, we already met the criteria for international outlook 5% foreign lecturers and 5% foreign students. We are optimising our processes and we are gunning for the best. All lecturers are currently mandated to go through their PHD hence almost all lecturers are either Professors/Associate professors or Doctors. If UI is willing to ride to the top with us they are very well invited. Remember CU was around 10-20th best uni in Nigeria and was not worth THE ranking some five years ago but today we are already comparing our research work with that of uni of Capetown and Stellenbosch uni. CU is rising and there is no stopping it. This may be our first year of appearing on THE but we are very sure that we would surpass UI and even Makerere uni to take the top 4 unis in Africa.

Statsocial:
And CU is funded by one of the wealthiest Churches in Africa. This year alone LFC has reserved 1.6 billion naira as its own developmental stakes in CU. The idea of CU's sustainability is rooted in its Research/Industry partnership. We simply fund CU to the point where any kingld of research can be conducted there then indigenous companies can come around and pay for its patented products. E.g there is currently a pawpaw beverage factory being built in Ogun state. The pawpaw beverage came as a direct research product for CU. Currently, CU is going to start selling its custom made electric cars to the Ota environ. We are also converting waste product into fertilizers, papers and electricity. So do not worry about funding. Afterall Afebabaloa uni does not have church or fg backing and it is still doing remarkably well than all state unis in Nigeria

sanchos9607:
His research may be verifiable, but he hasn't gone out of his way to prove the possibility of counter research that nullifies his claims.

Someone incontrovertibly mentioned on this topic the availability of academic works in those government institutions, which are not available online. The op had made no attempt to acknowledge their existence, neither has he attempted to gauge their value as a counter to his argument. This puts his research credibility in doubt.

Statsocial:
Lol you have taken this thing too personal o. I would suggest you just move on. OP made his point if you want to refute such claims you should provide ur superior arguments. No need for name calling.

TheVictorious:
Your opinion. Rejoice for we have noticed you!

I'm the OP by the way.

TheVictorious:
Never start what you can't finish. I always put forward points I can defend but all you do is simply disagree due to fear of facts (bitter truth). As such, it's better to just pass without commenting than to degenerate to fallacies to bail you out!

TheVictorious:
What happened to consistency. When university performances are measured, they are judged based based on performance for a specific period of time - usually not more than 5 years from when such performances are evaluated!

Draxler:
Oga just prove it. You have nothing to lose. We will agree once you prove us wrong. Its very simple. Its also not an inferiority complex. Alumni from ivy league schools for example always try to prove why their own school is the best. Its nothing new please. Thanks.

TheVictorious:
Of course the do but with what facility. So you agree that they are under-funded and they still do their "practical" and theory anyway; no point for argument!

TheVictorious:
Have you seen those of CU??. post those of your school and let me post those of UI and let us compare.

Also google the names of the tops management officials (VCs, DVCs, Deans, etc) of OAU, UI and CU and compare them - at least they're publicly available online for these three schools.

TheVictorious:
Go and tell Caltech that. Oh Nigerian students, please celebrate what is good and criticize what is bad. It's like you guys don't want the self-inflicted suffering in federal varsities to end!

kellyoneinamill:
they ( government and pastors) rob us of hard earned money and infrastructure in whatever guise. same them will go ahead and build universities to be better than the one the children of the people they robbed to build attend. they make it impossible for the victims to attend with their intolerable high prices. then later, they come and rub it in our faces say their "universities" that were built from "our" sweat better pass the ones wey we dey go and they expect me to graciously accept that, stand in front queue and clap for them? rubbish ni. btw this so called best university when they are offering scholarship eh the criteria are very ridiculous and before you fit get 100% scholarship no be here o. CU this, CU that we no go here word again. how many of your lectureers graduated from your school. dey their dey enjoy other people products come still dey make mouth. Park well

heayernu56:
Microsoft is one of the top companies/industries in the world and it holds a lot of pressure on its workers but it provides enabling environment (I.e needed resources for research and discoveries) and same applies to universities abroad.
There should be enabling environment for students to learn even if there are pressures on them and only the private universities and very very few federal universities are taking giant stride towards that. Or how do you expect me to understand control engineering when we don't have any apparatus in our labs to carry out experiment and see how thinks work not to talk of inventing or researching on it ?, how do I understand the basic principles of modulation and demodulation of signals when we don't have the needed tools to experiment?. when I visited a private university and was able to get to their lab, I realised how far behind most federal universities are.
All that is left of most federal universities is the name. So, I am not saying that a little pressure is bad in a schooling system, All I am saying is that private universities have enabling environment compare to federal universities in NIGERIA

zeongeon:
The problem with us in Nigeria is that we hate the truth coupled with the fact that we are envious.. The OP stated his claims with fact but we rather remain in the dark.

The people bashing OP if they have the means tomorrow won't even send there kids to the public universities they themselves went to. it's a known truth that the educational system in Nigeria is screwed.

The public universities are only living in there past glory. They can't be compared to CU presently. Go to our public universities and then you will see why the elites either send the kids abroad or to CU.

You know the truth.

TheVictorious:
The rant has started again. Answer the questions I raised in the point of Academic excellence or provide verifiable stats to back your claim or simply keep quiet. Let me help you, the last option may actually be easier!

ilynem:
Simple question. An institution run by government and one run by an individual, which is supposed to be better? In a sane environment?

Statsocial:
Well as long as Osinbanjo and Fayose and numerous Nigerian senators see CU fit enough for their sons and daughters to attend. Then all these negative comments r irrelevant.

Statsocial:
Lol go tell that to the proprietors of Harvard, MIT or even Tsinghua university. What rubbish. Medicine does not have to be bitter to be effective.

lonelygem:
recall: your CVs never forget to indicate "ability to work under pressure in pursuit of objectives with little or no supervision. "

abi you Don forget?

prettyboi1989:
Just hear urself, u tink uve scored some kind of cheap point? how delusional, childish and immature u could be. ask the last guy that mentioned me with insults, his username is ogrin, how i shut him up for good. jst type ogrin in the search bar. if u nt careful u might just end up like him.

TheVictorious:
One of the most reasonable comments I've seen so far but remove that "before you were bore", it's got nothing to do with anything.

Since you agree your lecturers don't have better (or maybe even "good", no point arguing. What standards make a university globally relevant afterall do you know?

At the bolded: Wise word, I totally agree! Who has more information is not as relevant as who has visible information. It will therefore be senseless for the later to argue with the former that he has more information - until he display the information at his disposal for everyone to verify.

prettyboi1989:
are u lost? whats d nonsense about inferiority complex? carry ur frustrations elsewhere ok, its not so hard to know one and m nt ready to spend precious time speaking with a troll

heayernu56:
To those supporting federal universities, how many private universities have you visited... can the laboratories in the federal universities compare to those in afe babalola uni., convenant uni., e. t. c.

In federal universities, you struggle to learn rather than "learning in a conducive environment"(then tell me, why won't there be higher pass rate in the private unis.). Just take a visit to covenant university and you will see that, all that is left of most federal universities is their name.

prettyboi1989:
haters will still hate even when the facts are staring at them right in the face

Statsocial:
Lol CU is d youngest university in top 100 unis Africa. Age Babalola was created in 2011 @ currently it's the 15th best uni in Nigeria. So please Private universities and Fed ones are obviously not in d same league when you compare the timeline of Achievements of those two classes of unis.

Statsocial:
I said it wasn't reflective of Academic best practices which most ranking organisations employ. For instance GEJ being president of Nigeria isn't because he grad top of his class in Uniport. Hence you cannot say Uniport is better than UI because Uniport produced a Nigerian president.

SonOfEl:
Yes, we are COMPLAINING about our system because only a few of our universities managed to be among Africa's finest. Yet your type are REJOICING AND MASTURBΠTING that they have been accorded with the same reputation.

Where you celebrate is where we complain. Father na father, pikin na pikin.

Statsocial:
Of all the four major rankings in the world only Shanghai rankings uses Alumni CEOs as an indicator for rankings. The remaining three do not because it is not an accurate reflection of academic best practices.