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Education courses and medicine are the safest courses

Engineering courses the most lucrative courses in Nigeria.

Does it mean he won't step his foot on Nigeria again?

Statsocial:
Alumni success is not necessarily impacted by a university. E.g Covenant Uni or Babcock didn't make Simi n Davido stars, How did Gej attending UNIPORT make him the President of Nigeria? At best Alumni success would be one of the many indicators not the Only indiactor.
To rank a university one must first understand the purpose of a university which is to innovate, invent and educate. I believe rankings should be tailored around the core missions of a university which is founded on the mentioned pillars. Webometrics for instance ranks research only. Times Higher has a more holistic approach by ranking Teaching, Research, International outlook, Industry.

Well appreciated thanks

TheVictorious:
Talking about Alunmi success and university rankings; we should try to establish the relationship between the alumni success and the university impact, and the number of successful alumni compared to the total number of graduates the university has produced. If you examine this, you'll understand that the term alumni success should simply be replaced with employ-ability. Alumni success is not a good statistical measure of a university performance. Majority of the schools that have good alumni record simply have produced more graduates both the good, the bad and the ugly among them. Mind you, statistically, a good alumni may not be a good representation of a school's graduate population, depending on the mean. How many of us know which school Donald Trump graduated from; this follows the matthew theory (browse more about); schools that have produced much graduates have more good graduates (even at lesser percentages), and are therefore continually perceived to produce better graduates than the schools that produce better graduates at even 90% turn out rate!

To me the best ranking parameters are employability, graduates' success rate in the labour market 5 years from graduation, Research works affiliated with universities, Nobel prizes affiliated with universities, field medals and other research oriented prizes, Teacher to student ratio, students'pass rate at final year (people should be worse at 100 level and better at final year after which those who the school didn't improve must have dropped out), Patents, Industrial products, Influence of the university on the students and graduates, web visibility of everything done in the school, transparency of the school (processes, result verification, application, etc) to internal and external context, teacher-student relationship.

Also, the biggest flaw of THE is the too much score placed on reputation. Before you ask why a school wasn't ranked among well performing universities by THE, you should first ask whether or not the school is worth being considered for ranking by their standard.

Lastly Caltech is a small school that that was founded many years after The University of Oxford, and have produced much lesser graduates than Oxford which presently ranks best in the world by THE, even though their alumni/students'success rate is alarming, their researches are ground breaking, their transparency is one of a kind and student to teacher ratio is next to none. You may be reading this and asking why is this one trying to compare the "GREAT" Oxford to one small school that nobody knows, but look at the bolded once again and think on it critically, do simple research if need be and tell me which of the two is a greater school. The less university rankings pay regard to sentiments, the better they become!

Wow....I really appreciate these..employability is the word..thanks again

simplymat:
op doesn't understand English sef. the title of the thread should be -" what is the criteria for ranking universities" rather than that unclear title you gave the thread. how is it possible for one to measure an institution when it's not garri. shikena

Thanks....you have been noticed....

sneak3:
Lol... Typical of dullards with strong personality.. Usually very stubborn and unyielding.

Lol....and you are the typical intellectual buffoon... with all your false sense of grammatical superiority....your cowardice is monumental.... Toothless dog....a dragonfly feeling like a dragon.

mat2d6boi:
I think I should contribute something but nothing, because its a mumu post.

Then why did you comment on a "mumu post"? How old are you? If you want cheap popularity, its definitely not going to be this way.

Kids using MB all over the place....

sneak3:
From this statement I give up on the school that certified u a graduate. Little wonder the hate speech on private university.

Just so you know, the concept 'sense of reasoning ' can either be positive or negative. So its temporary nature permissible is logical.

Olodo aye ati orun

Hahaha......stereotypic slowpoke.....very typical.... FYI, "sense of reason" was what I wrote because it is CORRECT in its own CONTEXT o.....

As per positive or negative..... You don't have either of the two....you are simply a vegetable.

English by the way, is not a test of intelligence...it is just a language.....onye ishi mgbaka.....

sneak3:
It's obvious ur idiocy is permanent.

And your sense of reason is temporary.

ledgelessons:
I laugh when people make this comparison, i got my first degree from a private university and my second from a state university,my brothers and sisters let us stop deceiving ourselves... Private universities are the future of quality tertiary education in Nigeria... Shikena

Obviously you couldn't get through to a federal university. No institution whether private or public, holds a monopoly of the future of tertiary education in Nigeria.

sneak3:
Ejo lo Fe ro.. We Don go, we Don learn, we comot on time, we collect certificate, we Don de work, and we mingle with Federal school products and to shock u @op those guys ain't any better.

Idleness and quest for relevance prompted this topic.

As you sneaked in, pls sneak out.... You are obviously a product of an unknown and perhaps unlicensed private uni....

Iyalodeofcanada:
Anytime I see topics like this, I just shake my head in amazement at how funny people can be. In my opinion and with my experience studying abroad, I will enlighten you abit. The goal is neither to seek personal aggrandizement of any sort or make anyone feel better on any part of the divide. I currently study in Canada and I have to tell you that I have seen first class international students from Nigeria in my field (computer science, computer engineering, mathematics) being expelled from time to time. While some are from the so called federal universities, other are from private universities. It's a general thing most of us find it so hard to cope because of the mode of instruction in Nigeria. Most importantly the quality of the professors(no exceptions). It may interest you to know that I attended a private university before comming here and most of my professors are products of these so called federal universities who knew next to nothing when it comes to applied focused teaching. Some of them can not even write one single line of code. All they know is theoretical and not application. They possibly were taught the same way and it all goes in circles. In my own opinion it's all the same rat race. Those who stand tall are those who have invested their time and resources in personal development by learning the real stuffs needed to thrive and stand competing outside the rotten walls of our institution. What an undergraduate student knows here interms of coding, algorithms and data structures(application wise), a good number of masters students in the Nigerian context knows(only by definitions of terms). The bottom line is go beyond the trash most of them teach, develop yourself and fly high no matter the continent you find yourself now or in the future. At the end of the day, it's not about the name of the school it's about what you have made of yourself.I rest my case.

I disagree with your analogy. A professor from a university like UI, UNN, OAU, ABU, UNILAG, or UNIBEN knows his or her onions both home and abroad. Don't generalize your observations They even attend symposia, align with foreign colleagues for research, etc.

you are making these remarks because you are a product of a private university. So far, its CU that I have respect for.

DMeanMan:
First of, I wouldn't categories and compare all Federal Institutions against Private institutions.

I'd talk about the ones I've been to.

Federal Universities: UNAB, UI, OAU

Private University: Covenant

I'd say it here and now that Covenant University is far better than all the federal universities up there when it comes to Engineering. Quote me anywhere.

Theoretically they are more sound. Better in pratical is good and the kind of connections you build mehn, state of the art shiit.

I'm not saying UI, OAU engineering guys are not good, cos the truth is those guys too rock, but when it comes to learning and getting the competencies that matter in the job market, CU beats them all hands down.

My two cents

I beg to refuse your 2 cents. FUTO FUTA and UNN and even YABATECH (a polytechnic) are very strong engineering schools. You are only stating yours because its the one you know.

You can't beat them when it comes to practicals. How I wish NUC reconsiders assessing schools on faculty basis. The following schools are usually known mainly for the following:
1. Medicals - UI, UNEC, UNIJOS (Boko Haram relegated UNIMAID)
2. Info Technology (IT) and Mass Comm. - UNILAG unrivaled
3. Creative Arts - OAU, UNN, UNILAG, UNIBEN, UI
4. Engineering - UNN, OAU, FUTA, FUTO, ABU, FUTMINNA
5. Law - LASU, OAU, UNEC, UI, UNIBEN, UNILAG
6. Education - UNN, UI
7. Agriculture - UI, ABU, FUNAAB, UNN, MOUAU
8. Physical/Biological Sciences - Almost all schools

I can't recall all.... But these are the ones I could remember back when we were under guidance and counselling in FGC Odogbolu in the late 90s/ early 00s

kettle84:
there was and never will be no rivalry within igbo land.we do rival each other. Anambra, IMO,Abia,rivers,Anioma(in delta state)Ebonyi,Enugu, igbos in kogi and Benue are one in one igbo nation. We don't rival neither did we do that with non-igbo nationalities in the Niger Delta. Igbos are one and one shall we be against all agents of division.

You are contradiction personified. Read your post again.

kettle84:
there is nothing reasonable to read from that thread.Igbo land was one before the murderer;Gowon divided it in other to weaken it.in recent time the new generation has been fighting to erase any division but it is obvious that you don't seem to understand and have been conquered by Gowon's desires.

It is you that still lack understanding about the intent of the thread. Even when igboland was still one region, there was still sibling rivalries within provinces. The intent of the thread anyway, was to stop the acidic interplay going on between two south east states.

There is nothing reasonable on the thread yet you commented on it. People and hypocrisy sef...

HalfTruth:
lmaooooooooo

Confusion amongst Biafrans. This is what you get when you call everyone who doesn't share the Biafran dream Yoruba.
Even if your people try to gather at a meeting today, if una disagree, una go mistrust each other

Pele.

First class mugu. Couples quarrel, siblings fight, friends argue, families disagree, so what's your point? Mugu.

First of all, I have no personal beef or ish with private universities in Nigeria. Kudos to them. However I feel they are no match for the public universities.

Asides Covenant University which has been pursuing academic excellence rigorously, all other private universities are mere profit companies.

But even if you tell me to pick between covenant university and any first or second generation public university, I would still go for the public universities. Why?

1. They have a well established alumni of global reckoning.
2. They are not driven or motivated by profit as observed in private schools which are owned by private individuals or groups. They are driven by innate academic excellence.
3. Unlike private universities, they expose one to the real world of obstacles, manoeuverings, economy, and independence, all together laced with academic pursuit.

I know Covenant (and others) aims to be like Harvard university. But harvard, though private in ownership, is public in setting. The US government is a serious stakeholder in the university, so the university is not entirely private so to say.

Just my take. Don't crucify me abeg o....

OAU, UI, should just chill abeg....UNN was once the first in ranking.
https://www.nairaland.com/3241884/webometrics-transparent-ranking-universities-2016

mat2d6boi:
mr man, you prove to be current but I must tell u that u ar absolutely outdated. don't u hear of the us based medical doctor who is the first to perform an operation on an unborn baby, I have to tell u that he is a graduate from OAU , doubt? search it. etc...........

Why not just spill it here than telling me to search it? Secondly, how does that make him renown? Bring your facts and leave drama abeg.

daneni1:
Some of the Notable Alumni of OAU!
Fatou Bensouda (born 31 January 1961) is a Gambian lawyer, former government civil servant, the Chief prosecutor of the International Criminal Court in the Haque and Legal Adviser.
Ibiyinka Alao , artist.
Dizzy K Falola, singer.
Dominic Oneya , former Governor Kano state, Nigeria.
Fidelis Oyakhilome, former Governor Rivers state, Nigeria.
Osonye Tess Onwueme, Nigerian playwright, poet and Professor of Global letters
Abike Dabiri, Nigerian politician and member of the House of Representatives (Nigeria).
Bolaji Aluko, Professor of Chemical Engineering at Howard University, Washington DC and was Chair of its department from 1994-2002 currently Vice-Chancellor of the Federal University Otuoke, Bayelsa State.
Michael Faborode , Professor of Agricultural Engineering and former Vice Chancellor of Obafemi Awolowo University, currently the Secretary-General of the Association of Vice Chancellors of Nigerian Universities (AVCNU/CVC).
Kunle Odunsi , Chair of the Department of Gynecologic Oncology, Executive Director of the Center for Immunotherapy and Co-Leader of the Tumor Immunology and Immunotherapy research program at Roswell Park Cancer Institute, USA.
Oluyemi Badero , World renowned International Cardiologist.
Professor Nahzeem Olufemi Mimiko , Vice Chancellor Adekunle Ajasin University, Ondo state, Nigeria.
Jimoh Ibrahim , Lawyer, politician, businessman, entrepreneur, industrialist and philanthropist in Nigeria. Currently the Group Chairman and Group Chief Executive Officer of Global Fleet Group.
Olajumoke Adenowo , Nigerian architect and businesswoman.
Toyin Adewale-Gabriel , Nigerian Literary Critic, poet and writer.
Oladapo Afolabi, Professor of Chemistry, currently the Head of service of the Federation.
Funso Aiyejina, Nigerian poet, short story writer and playwright, Dean of Humanities and Education University of West Indies.
Oluwarotimi Odunayo Akeredolu, Senior Advocate of Nigeria[SAN], former president of the Nigerian Bar Association.
Sarah Alade , Acting Governor Central Bank of Nigeria.
Ibiyinka Alao , Nigerian Artist.
Yusuf Olaolu Ali , Lawyer, Senior Advocate of Nigeria.
Biyi Bandele , Nigerian Novelist and Playwright.
Babalola Borishade , former Minister of Aviation of Nigeria.
Femi Euba , Nigerian Actor and Dramatist.
Dizzy K Falola, UK-based Nigerian singer.
Toyin Falola, Nigerian Historian and Professor of African studies.
Nkemdilim Izuako , Nigerian Judge and member of the United Nations Dispute Tribunal.
Adesimbo Victor Kiladejo, Traditional Ruler of Ondo Kingdom, Nigeria.
Dele Momodu , Nigerian Journalist and Businessman and CEO of Ovation International Magazine.
Francisca Oboh Ikuenobe , Professor and Head of Geology and Geophysics at Missouri University of Science and Technology.
Isaac O. Ogundipe, Electrical Engineer, former General Manager Electrical & Telecoms of FAAN currently CEO of Isolog Schools.
Wole Oguntokun, Nigerian Playwright, stage and film director, theatre administrator and newspaper columnist.
Bamidele Ojo , Professor of Political science and International Studies.
Babafemi Ojudu, Nigerian Journalist and Senator of Ekiti State, Nigeria.
Olusegun Oni, Nigerian Politician and former Governor of Ekiti state, Nigeria.
Oluremi Tinubu, Former First Lady and current senator of Lagos State, Nigeria.
Femi Falana , Nigerian Lawyer and Human Activist.
Enoch Adeboye , General Overseer of Redeemed Christian Church of God (RCCG).
Yemi Adegbite, President of the Students’ Union 1988/89 Session, An educator, community advocate and a politician, Resident in Canada.
The university has alumni groups outside Nigeria, the foremost being the Great Ife Alumni Association of the United States, headquartered in Houston, Texas, which spearheaded the now-traditional biennial reunions of the alumni for the primary purpose of raising funds for the development of the alma mater.

Hope you are satisfied with the list.

Not at the least satisfied. Why?
1. Only Pastor Adeboye and Falana SAN are heavyweights that I can see in your long list of alumni. Sadly, they are not recent. Most first generation universities have LOTS of celebrated heavyweights who are not recent too.

2. I specifically requested for recent heavyweights because every now and then, schools must be consistent in churning out heavyweights of national and global reckoning. Who knows your Dr badero?

My submission? OAU is undoubtedly a good Nigerian school, but they lack a strong towering alumni like UI and UNN. FACT.

for instance, DR. BENNET OMALU, the Hero of the Hollywood film CONCUSSION starring WILL SMITH in 2015, is celebrated internationally for discovering CTE, a self inflicted brain disease amongst athletes in collision games. He is a clinical pathologist. He was decorated last year by the American Medical Association with their highest distinguished award. He is proudly UNN.

ARUNMA OTEH in 2015 became the Treasurer and Vice President of WORLD BANK. Her tenacity transparency and professionism displayed during her days as DG, SEC made her to be sought after. She is proudly UNN.

These two alone are recent heavyweights. Their achievements and status alone towers above most of the names you mentioned in IFE ALUMNI. Am sure UI has theirs too.

Thank you.

raph101:
Am sure she's from Abia state.





*cut out*

Because she told you so right?

Is webometrics THE major test or ONE of the various tests used in assessing a university?

Do NUC still rank Nigerian Universities?

Is the Higher Education Times (or whatever they call it) the final authority in assessing universities?

Is a third class UI/UNN/ABU/LASU/ESUT etc graduate better than a first class private university graduate e.g COVENANT/BABCOCK/MADONNA etc?

Personally I think the quality of a schools ALUMNI is the major test of a school's quality. Why? Because its has produced national/international achievers who have competed favorably with their counterparts from other universities in the labour market, whether in academic grade point, practical experience and know-how as well as communication skill.

What do you think?

Handsomecole:
The fact is at the mention of OAU Great Ife to anyone there is automatic fear of intimidation and low self -esteem that takes over the person, I just don't know.

Only on OAU campus u enter bus from hostel to hostel at N10. Only in Great Ife with N150 you will consume a plate of Eba and Fish.

The concious nature of students watching over each other is so amazing, the only canpus in Nigeria where you can walk at anytime and anywhere with all your items without any fear.

The only campus where companies roll over each other to select their Ist class materials before they even graduate .

I know OAU can delay shaa, but tell you what the delay is what even makes it great because it's worth it.

The modest yet swagged up dress sense of its students gives this foreign University feeling.

Only campus where foreigners besiege as students and lecturers .


ProudlyGreat Ife.

**yimu** who are your most recent celebrated alumni? A school is vindicated by its products.

Super1Star:
Another of the many lies of Igbos. Show us proven statistical data that lay credence to your fallacy.

Is it not even shameful for your so called "non-indigenes" to be running away from their region and schools in their region and be attending schools in the peaceful developed and blessed land of Oduduwa?

Running away from where? Pls where is the most densely populated region in Africa? Dude, its the south east, so stop masturbπting. There are many students in UNN, UNIZIK, FUTO, MOUAU, IMSU, etc you name it. Even if you go to UTHMAN DAN FODIO UNIVERSITY in sokoto or KEBBI STATE UNIVERSITY OF SCI AND TECH, majority of non indigenes there amongst the 3 major tribes are IGBOS. Pls don't cry just yet.

The very best alumni is UNN even in more recent times, and am yet to see any afonja who can prove otherwise. You guys keep deceiving the gullible with being the most "educated and sophisticated tribe"..... Chai.... Shame on inferiority complex!

mat2d6boi:
mumu, it's like you ar living in venus abi. one doesn't need to list them out for you. find out nd u'll know.

Oga.....list them if there are any and stop trying to save face....

goldennugget:
Was there a time UI was not number 1 in this webometric ranking? As far back as i can remember, Ui has been number in Nigeria.

http://www.musicblogging.org/

I think last two or three years, it was UNN

https://www.nairaland.com/2894333/webometrics-ranks-unn-first-nigeria

Samguine:
Obafemi Awolowo University is a federal government owned and operated Nigerian university. The university is in the ancient city of Ile-Ife. Established in 1962 as The University of Ife. The University is situated on a vast expanse of land totaling 11,861 hectares in Ile-Ife, Osun State, southwest of Nigeria.

Right from the start, Obafemi Awolowo University, Ile-Ife (OAU), has continuously proven its academic, administrative, research and community service supremacy over and above other universities in Nigeria.

Why this is so is explained in the points below as compiled by Nigerian Bulletin:

1. Students Unionism: Of all student unions in Nigeria, OAU student union stands out. Its slogan Great IFE means: Great Intellectual Fighters for Emancipation. The ivory tower boasts of vibrant union and fearless national activists. Examples include: Human rights lawyer, Femi Falana, Bamidele Aturu, among others. While other schools has Students’ Union Government ; government connotes operating within a territory, OAU has a Student Union which fights not for only OAU but entirety of Nigerian studentship.

2. Academic Excellence: This is a non-negotiable attribute of why thousands of students troop into Obafemi Awolowo University. The academic excellence and intellectual supremacy of Obafemi Awolowo University, Ile-Ife cannot be matched with any other higher institution of learning in Nigeria. The ivory tower has an extensive history of academic excellence. Its products dominate and excel in various fields.

3. Beautiful Campus, Architectural Balance: OAU does not only have 'Africa's Most Beautiful Campus' in its school anthem, it has truly lived up to this name. The architectural masterpiece of building structures, and the serene environment will always leave you wowed. Besides this, OAU has good building structure. Halls of residence are removed from the academics. Banks have their place on campus. Market has its place. Lecture theatres have their places. And so on.

4. Strong Alumni Body: OAU boasts of an impressive alumni body both home and abroad.

5. Zero cultism: The last time cultist struck in OAU was in 1999. An attack which was allegedly orchestrated by the school management. Since then, the campus enjoys a cultist-free status.

6. Social life and rich cultural orientation: No other school compares when it comes to the social life in OAU. From Awo to Faj, Moremi to Akintola, the school maintains a rich social culture. Each hall of residence has its own students' peculiarity. For instance: Awolowo Hall is known for 'Aroism, and its habitual consumption of beans. Moremi is known for being the domain of campus big girls. Angola Hall is for the fresh male students. Mozambique is for the fresh female students. AngloMoz Park (the fusion of Angola and Mozambique) – which is in between Angola and Mozambique halls is a home for new students to hang out with one another. Fajuyi hall is known for being the hall of 'gentle' students. Apart from several hall orientation programmes, social events and displays from students will make you want to have a taste of the Great Ife!

7. Aroism: This is a concept that may sound ridiculous to students of other institution but it resounds a familiar meaning to an OAU student. It is a term used for hilarity in the school.

8. Peace, serene environment where students can move any time of the day – Not many Nigerian university campuses give you the freedom to walk at any time of the day, freely with no fear whatsoever. Students can leave their dorms to study in lecture theatres at any time of the time – even in the midnight, with no fear of intimidation. Besides campus security that is everywhere around the campus, students also watch each other's back.

9. Relatively cheap items – This is very very true of Obafemi Awolowo University – things are incredibly cheap on campus. Where do one even start from? From making photocopies of documents – which ranges from N3 – to transport fares which is N20 (from campus gate to inside the campus) no matter the size of the luggage. Also at butteries, prices of goods/stuffs should not be more than what students can afford. There have been cases where butteries have been shut because of trading over-priced items that are more expensive than outside campus.

10. Internal Government – Well, OAU has its own government. Cases are settled within and among the students. There has never been cases where policemen/armed forces invaded the campus to arrest or harrass students. These issues are always resolved among the students, and by the security arm of the school.

Source: https://www.nigerianbulletin.com/threads/oau-10-reasons-it-is-the-best-nigerian-university.232214/

*yawns* boring.....

By the way, give me a list of the recent national/international celebrated alumni from your ife....

If none, then park well sir.

mat2d6boi:
the webometric ranking your village people conducted abi, mumu

Forgive me, I think I was initially misinformed. The OP is correct.

When you talk great alumni, you talk about UNN. check out the most recent celebrated alumni:
- Bennet Omalu, medical pathologist who discovered CTE.
- Aruuma Oteh, world bank treaurer and vice president.
- Peter Obi, celebrated former governor of anambra state.
............

Super1Star:
5 out of the top 10 schools and 8 out of the top 20 are in SW. That translates to 50% and 40% of the top 10 and 20 schools in Nigeria respectively.

Na wa oooo.

We can now all see why SW is the most peaceful and most developed part of Nigeria. No wonder some people always wake up every morning to run to the blessed land of Oduduwa that is flowing with milk and honey.

How many indigenes gain admission there? Go figure, majority of the non yorubas there are easterners. So dude, calm down and sip your juice with humility.

mat2d6boi:
the webometric ranking your village people conducted abi, mumu

If I should spit my venom on you now....they will say i have assassinated your family tree....