₦airaland Forum

Demdem:

Sonof jezebel, unlike u fools who seek importance on an anonymous online forum seeking validation, what's my ffucking business if u tow my line of thinking or not?
Enough validation for my real life. Continue to seek urs online. Rubbish.

are you done masturbπting?

OdenigboAroli:
How many times have I said I date writing in central Igbo. The Igbo I write is Idenmili/Onicha axis and thats where I come from. However,I am not worried about the dialect you write in but how well you write it. The Igbo you wrote in the first post I quoted was faulty. I can understand Umuahia,Arochukwu and even Owerri . So,dont think because I am so Anambraic I don't get around.

then correct the faults so I can see them...am waiting....

[quote author=OdenigboAroli post=38426494][/quote]I should be asking you that question. the anambra Igbo you are writing is not central Igbo... chofuta kwa n'onwegi....

scholes0:
For lack of a better way to put it, the region is simply unattractive. If a census is done in Nigeria tomorrow, and we are told there are 20 Million people in the SE, I can be sure 19.5 million of them are aboriginals.
Some Yorubas go to Onitcha to buy goods, while a few others do craft work like building- but outside of these- there isn't much to do in the SE honestly.

unattractive? that would be insincere of them. Hausa's and other ethnicities are in IGBO land , doing whatever business they can, I think its because the business environment in the east is tough and too competitive even for an Igbo man sef...if IGBOS could rear cattle, the hausa-fulanis would have left IGBO land since.

Demdem:
Ooo I see. We now have a new moniker whose primary responsibility is to succk the protection seekers cocck.
Good luck on ur shameful adventure.

insecure slowpoke... e pain you say him no follow una Slavic stupidity....

TerraCotta:
This poster often makes these types of inane comments. He is not alone in being incurably addicted to ethnic stereotyping so there's not much point in engaging with him (although I'm grateful to others like Radoillo and Scholes who do God's work by replying!) I do have to correct some simplistic comments that I often see repeated by ignorant posters on Nairaland. Anyone who feels offended because they fit the bill of 'ignorance' may wish to look up the meaning of the word.

Yoruba entrepreneurs have lived and continue to live all over Nigeria and West Africa, in numbers rivaling if not outnumbering any other migrant groups. I'm not interested in score-settling with shallow-minded tribal chestbeaters but the facts are the facts and we have both anecdotal and empirical evidence to support this view. You will find Yoruba traders in every rural corner of northern and central Nigeria, and in a chain of communities stretching throughout West Africa up to the Ivory Coast. Entrepreneurial travel is a foundational aspect of Yoruba culture, as I've written here before. It's enshrined in the traditional religion through "Aje shaluga" and Olokun, and is well-presented in hundreds of proverbs, and in ancient and contemporary patterns of commerce. The market is still the locus of society in most rural settings, and cities built along traditional plans like Ibadan still demonstrate the central role of the market in Yoruba life. A brilliant, under-appreciated book on this theme was published in the early 1980s and is called "The Entrepreneur As Culture-Hero"--the author is Professor Bernard Belasco, formerly of the City University of New York. More recent books by Toyin Falola and Jane Guyer go further into Yoruba economic history and anthropology from the 19th century to the present.

Even further back in time, the economic development of Ile-Ife was most likely due to its trade in the luxury goods of the day (9th-14th century West Africa), which included the beaded jewelry, ivory and bronze/brass/copper-alloy artwork produced there: http://www.icom-cc.org/54/document/wg-glass-and-ceramics-interim-meeting-corning-2010--preprint-ige/?action=Site_Downloads_Downloadfile&id=1278
The city was wealthy enough to attract the attention of Muslim scholars like Ibn-Battuta, who is believed to have written about 14th-century Ife under the name "Yufi"--similar to the indigenous Ife-Ijesa and Okun-Ondo dialect version of the town name, "Ufe". There is some controversy about this record but it appears to be correct in calling Ife "one of the largest towns of the negroes, whose ruler is one of the most considerable of the negro rulers." As suggested by this record, Yoruba cultures have long placed an importance on living in primarily urban arrangements; they are considered one (if not the most) urbanized societies in Africa prior to colonization. Urbanization requires societies open to immigration, entrepreneurship, religious, linguistic and cultural mixing. To my mind, this tradition is strongly upheld in Yoruba culture and partially explain both the size and economic vitality of many Yoruba cities like Lagos and Ibadan.

Coming back to the revolting bigotry that pushes someone to say a group of 35 million people aren't "independent-minded and enterprising enough to travel outside their region to survive". The mindset that generates this type of simple-minded comment can't be cured by posting on the Internet, unfortunately. Thankfully, it can be partially relieved through reading and travel, so more facts:

Yoruba Traders in Cote D'Ivoire: http://www.ajol.info/index.php/afrrev/article/view/43614 (This was, until recently, the country with the highest per-capita GDP and living standards in West Africa)

The Yoruba Migrant Entrepreneur Experience in Ghana: http://www.imi.ox.ac.uk/events/amw-2008/papers/olaniyi.pdf and https://books.google.com.hk/books?id=IjlzSYnAKdQC&pg=PA217&lpg=PA217&dq=yoruba+ivory+ghana&source=bl&ots=fu3niM8Tif&sig=pkXGVgPr9-1yvmJHRPbG-i08KTE&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0CDAQ6AEwCWoVChMIn-6-6qSWyAIVJCymCh0iAg64#v=onepage&q=yoruba%20ivory%20ghana&f=false

The Yoruba ethnonym "Anago" or "Nagot" is synonymous with "Nigerian" in both the Ivory Coast and Ghana, which suggests the significance of the Yoruba migrant population in both countries.



This is senseless, given the documented travel patterns above. If there were economic opportunities and societal openness rivaling Cote D'Ivoire and Ghana in the East, you would expect to see more migration there. Unlike some of the silly inferences I read on Nairaland, migrant labor does not move to new areas out of an altruistic need to "develop" a community. Migrant traders like the Yoruba in these countries, or in London, Dubai and so forth, go to these places because there are more economic opportunities than they would have at home. They are leaving to "strike it rich", not to perform philanthropy. It is a clear comment on the perceived inferior quality of Nigerian schools that students would rather attend university in Ghana and Malaysia (and of course the U.S. and U.K.) It may wound Nigerian pride to hear it, but that won't make it less true. Likewise, if Yoruba traders go to every other region and nation on Earth but avoid specific ones in large numbers, there is likely to be a straightforward explanation that doesn't require the tortured logic of the quoted statement.



Your claims are demonstrably false as shown above, since there are literally millions of Yoruba people living outside their region for three or more generations, at this point. They live in a wide variety of other communities inside and outside Nigeria. The more probable truth is that you and others who think and talk like you represent a strain of thought and lack of openness in your region that most Yoruba people would find unacceptable. Coming from cosmopolitan backgrounds where they are used to celebrating a variety of ethnic and religious backgrounds, they are unlikely to be attracted to that rudimentary approach to life and a general lack of courtesy and decorum. If there were some overriding economic reasons to live in the East, there would undoubtedly be many hardy migrants who are indifferent to these issues. For instance, there are Yoruba traders established in Hong Kong and Dubai, which are certainly more economically competitive and less culturally-familiar to them than Eastern Nigeria. The appeal is the economic opportunity that the first two choices offer and that the last appears to lack. Whether or not this lack of opportunity is true has little to do with my point that BigFrancis typifies a lack of cultural courtesy and decorum that many (if not most) Yoruba would find repellant.

Bigotry comes easily to the shallow-minded and inexperienced and it's tempting (but difficult) to ignore it if you have a nuanced and open-minded view of the world. Nairaland taught me a log time ago that engaging with dyed-in-the-wool bigots is a waste of time--they either grow out of their ignorance through their own efforts or inevitably face shame and correction from a source they admire and trust more than an anonymous internet poster. It is important to correct nonsense like the first quoted statement because impressionable readers who don't have a wider appetite for information might buy it.

most of the yorubas I have queried as regards this trend of not doing business in IGBO land says because IGBOS are too crafty in doing business.

aim5:
Which area of Edo is more pretty? Owans, Akokos, Unemes, Etaskos, Esans or Benins?

I can't really say, they all look same to me. I am yet to see an ugly Edo girl. I have seen pretty and ugly IGBOS, yorubas, calabars/efik/Ibibio, hausa-fulanis, idomas, but am yet to see an ugly Edo girl.

aim5:
Hmm I'm an Edo guy and I put Fulanis slightly over Edo girls. I think Edo girls as a whole are number two behind Fulani.

for me, Edo girls are the prettiest....

aim5:
You put Edo girls above Fulani?

I have been to the core north several times, Fulani girls are overrated. beauty lies in the eyes of the beholder tough.

EDO GIRLS- they are the most pretty but possessed, tend to prostitute and are very stubborn.

IGBO GIRLS- they are pretty and industrious homemakers, but not as pretty as Edo girls, trust me. they have the best dance moves.they can be too demanding too.

YORUBA GIRLS- they are pretty but dirty. truth though is that their backside makes you forget your worries for a while.

IDOMA GIRLS- look igboish in beauty, but promiscuous.

FULANI/HAUSA GIRLS- pretty, humble, but many atimes lazy.
CALABAR/EFIK/IBIBIO GIRLS- the champions in home making and bedmatics, they are fine too but not as fine as Edo, Igbo, and Yoruba girls. they are good dancers too.

***runs away before being lynched***

OdenigboAroli:
Nowhere in my post did I insult anybody but I noticed that when I write people sense this arrogance in my tone,yet they can't point it out. I ffuck with peoples mind without actually ffucking with them...lol. I have nothing but love for all Igbos mana ekesia n'ama ebulu naa n'Obi. Ighotago?

Ighotarum ih'ine kwu, mana obu nwayo-nwayo ka-ejie wunte enyi....calm down, your favourite fragrance might be my own turn off. gerrit....? lol..
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OdenigboAroli:
Then go ahead and boast and see if I would even care. It's your life and you live it the way you want...Stop bothering about how other people live their live,as long as they haven't offended you. You are here tearing yourselves apart over what somebody who doesn't know you think about themselves. You want me to live my life according to your standards...see me see wahala ooo. Open a thread and shout Abia to high heavens and I wont mind , as long as you haven't offended my people.

the truth though is that a lot of anambra guys castigate other Igbos. its something I have witnessed countless times. well, those who did it before me will never forget how I returned the favour bountifully to them.

dude, boast all you want, but don't directly or indirectly castigate other IGBOS, cos its not healthy for Igbo unity. mind you, I respect anambra guys.

seangy4konji:
Dont mind the fools...i talk am make she try such stuff she did with our economy with the people that just gave her appointment in 6 months and if does not go to jail then lets see...Leave them alone...

finally you found a fellow wailer who will sulk with you concerning NOI progress...suit yourself loser.

OdenigboAroli:
What a full load of crap! If I brag about my heritage what did it take away from you if not that you are simply insecure and paranoid. Americans openly brag about their nation and accomplishments yet ,it doesn't make what they boast of lies. And this Igbo unity crap is stupid ,today I still see people calling Anambrarians NDI OGWU EGO AND ILLITERATES. So,take your emotions and shove it down your throat. If my Omanbala pride offends you nigga,jee kwuo udo. I don't take prisoners;The failure of Igboland to develop has no correlation with the unity of her people. If the right man is chosen he will give you what you want. People need to chill the ffuck out what this redundant and over emphasised Igbo bull crap. People mock you not because you aren't united but rather for the failure of your leaders starting with the war to voting people like T.A Orji and Rochas Okorocha who are like logs of wood.
I intentionally didn't mention Imo because I know how they get but I am sure you are happy with reading the tongue lashing cum stereotypes listed of the Omanbalas. If I haven't insulted your people you have no cause to get offended with my giving.

you just exhibited what I stereotyped negatively as regards anambra men. hahaha......

as an abia man, no amambarian can intimidate me. if abians are to boast, anambra will sweat it out with us. just saying though....

by the way, I respect anambra, despite your shortcomings, you guys are making the IGBO nation proud.

welcome to the e-jungle, I hope you are well armoured in word smithing, curse words and analytic skills and wits, this land called nairaland will make you punch your keypads with finesse and caution if you want to be visible and relevant.

keep off danger zones like threads or monikers who champion biases, bigotry, hate, perversion, etc. if you are type who gets easily incensed by them.

rules in commenting in this land are not usually being kept, so this land is sort of lawless, a jungle I must say. however, there are mods who intervene if the e-war gets dangerously hot.

if you are a true religious enthusiast, then you have a serious war to fight with atheists and skeptics in the religion section. they have infested that section.

the good, the bad, the stupid, the bigoted, the ugly, you will find them all in this land.

you could also find a crush on this land. I have one. her name is melzabull, she is a dogged amazon warrior.

if you are a ladies man/ man's dreamgirl, prove the strength of your e-lips and intelligence on the romance section.

lastly, no matter who you blend with, always remember that e-wars (in the politics section) will be brought or shoved to you whether you like it or not, and to be visible and respectable in this forum, you must directly or indirectly fight. be prepared. enjoy.



SonOfEl™

IsraeliAIRFORCE:
Nigeria is going down and some sycophants still can't read the handwriting on the wall until like the proverbial frog gets boiled when the calamity is still avoidable.

Buhari just set Nigeria back by 8 years.

What is your benefit rejoicing over nothing?

By the way, until Nigerians accept that Stealing is different from Corruption in Nigerian context and should be dealt with as done in our traditional society, nothing will change and our resources will continue to be carted away by different faces and names.

By the way, 99.9% Nigerians are corrupt while less than 5% are thieves.

don't mind these APC apologists in NL, always trying to cover up for their error in condemning GEJ and his world class ministers.

OyinMIXmola:
thank you sooooooooooo much man,you makin sense,more greese to your elbow sir!now I belive not evryone,s got brains,just few and you are part of them

thanks dear, all the best...remember, your jealousy should be shown in a while from time to time, not every time. God bless.

OyinMIXmola:
I think I do sir,because everyone knows he doesn't cheat even I overheard his friends teasing him that his addicted to sticking with a girl for years because its hard for them to do that,but my own problem is dat his EX,am nt rly sure if they are just normal friends has he claimed for real...tnx

if you do trust your man, then worry less about the girl. its your mans headache to overcome, not yours, should his ex try to entice him directly or indirectly. just keep loving your man with all your heart and from time to time in a while, show your jealousy to him, it shows you want him for yourself alone and you don't find it funny him being too comfortable with other girls, whether ex or no ex.

nne, just let the man be. if he really wanted to cheat on you, do you think you may find out on time? ending a love relationship does not mean you have to end cordial friendship. its called maturity. I think the issue you have with your man is trust issues. do you trust him?

APC buhari and co, SMELL THE COFFEE.....

OdenigboAroli:
Iburo onye Nnewi?

abughu'm onye nnewi, onye umuahia ka-a mbu.

OdenigboAroli:
Good for you but y'all should stop trying to lump us all together. Speak your Owerri make I speak Omanbala dialect that's all I ask for. At least I don't have to speak through my nose...lol

I didn't say my dialect is owerri, I said it was similar to owerri dialect in many ways, but our umuahia intonation and dialect remains distinct in its own form. anyway, there is beauty in diversity nwanna. ..