₦airaland Forum

tolue42:
So my question is if the original certificate got lost, will the school or US now set up a special arrangements for you because you are a Nigerian??

The school already said they always use another party for replacement of certificate ( because certificate is not important to them).

If you read what the registrar said very well, they still have some certificates people don't come back to pick, just because transcript is the main thing to them.

No.

Certificate is important in Nigeria.
So you cant use American laws here.

There are so many ways to solve the Tinubu issue.He just didn't do it.

Once he lost his certificate, he should have gone to the school in person and ask for an authorization letter from the school.
This will stand in for his lost certificate.

Noth doing anything about the lost certificate and proceeding to print it by himself using Oluwole was the most shameful thing he could have done.

tolue42:
Can you listen to yourself, so we should kill all Nigerians studying abroad?? If we are to follow what you're saying, no Nigerians that graduated abroad should be employed here.

I'm sure you have a relative staying abroad, I wish the person is reading what you're typing here

What are you saying?

Its your duty to ensure your school abroad can certify your certificate if you want to school abroad.


No one is against abroad certificate but it must be certified by the school.

plaindealer:
Show us where you get this from, I'm sure it's not from the Nigerian constitution, na your own made up story.

So many politicians have been sacked because of this.

David Lyon was sacked as Bayelsa governor elect because his deputy submitted fake/uncertified certificate.


Kemi was also removed as Finance minister when she submitted certificate from third-party vendors.

The list goes on.

tolue42:
Most universities in the US does that...its a norm there.

Omg!

Did you read my post!

Are US laws same as Nigeria?

Is Tinubu contesting for US president?

garfield1:
They never said so.they said it may be from them or a third party vendors which is standard over there and it was certified

Seriously?

This is a lie!
No where did i read CSU saying the certificate Tinubu submitted maybe from them.

If you have evidence, pls post.

All official documents to be used in Nigeria must be certified.

Its either you provide the original one or you get a certified copy.

Nigeria laws do not recognize certificate produced by third party vendors


If the school you went to say the certificate is not from them, then you don enter one chance.

Shikena:
You are not making any sense which is a hallmark of crackheads.

Reno has offered you substantial financial reward so you can do you due diligence and also make some good money. Go for it if you can but judging your smartness from what I'm reading here, you stand no chance at all

You can tell Reno to share it amongst you all Tinubu e-rats . You need it to cure your hunger so your brain functionality can be restored.

Shikena:
Are you living under a rock? His reasons for tendering a copy has been on the public domain for ages.

Where did you guys crawl out from? People do tender copies when they don't have the original... is that news to you?

Go back to the post i quoted and see the reason for my submission.
I know some of you Tinubu urchins are crackheads and take diligence for granted

femisplash:
And the registrar said the Oluwole is authentic. Illiterate ipob.

Only bulaba urchins like yourself heard him when he said so.

Shikena:
Go and prove the forgery in court.

At least, the university have confirmed that he was issued an original copy (picked up or not). That is certificate verification.

With regards to academic background, our constitution is clear on MINIMUM requirement. In the case of Bola Ahmed Tinubu, this is fulfilled. You can present an unverified copy but you cannot forge what already belong to you.

He was issued an original copy but decided to submit forged


You guys can defend rubbish

femisplash:
This goat head doesn't know educational system differs in different countries. In Nigeria, certificate is important, in US, it is ceremonial. So, if i graduated from the US and i brought my ceremonial certificate to Nigeria, i won't be employed?
if e sure your papa say Tinubu submitted a fake certificate, Omokri has challenged you, go and prove it and chop his $100,000. Illiterate ipob.

Ode!

Go and print certificate from Oluwole and use it to get job.

When you are caught, tell them you schooled in Jupiter and there certificates are ceremonial

garfield1:
Unless the school rejects the inec copy,tinubu is safe

Lol!

The school already did with the statement" The certificate Tinubu submitted to INEC is not from us"

femisplash:
Where did he get his certificate from ?, where did he attend school?. And who says CSU certificates are not original?. Illiterate ipob

Mumu bulaba online urchin!


Nigeria doesn't accept uncertified certificates for official purposes.

CSU already said the certificate Tinubu submitted is not from them.

I wonder what else your block head needs to comprehend this.

Haywhy3579:
who is the nigeria u are talking about. u are still deluded that court will remove the president. move on with ur life

You are delusion personified.

Some of you are so corrupt and dumb you dont care if the right thing isnt done as far as the person you support is concerned.

femisplash:
This one is even the dullest bulb in the box. We are talking United States here, the school is in United States, the certificate was issued in the United States, Atiku sent his lawyers to US, the case was held in the US. In the US, certificate is ceremonial while transcripts is official and more important.

You are the dull one here!

Tinubu submitted the certificate in Nigeria

It is Nigeria where only original or certified certificate are recognized and accepted.

femisplash:
According to CSU, a diploma is not an official document but ceremonial. Therefore, once a (certificate )diploma is issued, they no longer have the copy in their records because it is issued only once.

On replacement diploma, the school says "when there is a replacement diploma, it is done by outside vendors" says Caleb Westberg, the registrar of CSU. In response to Atiku Abubakar's third request which was to release a copy of the diploma issued in 1997- the University said the certificates MATCH the format of the Tinubu's replacement dated June 27,1997.

In conclusion, once a student/graduate needs a replacement certificate, a third party vendor-lincensed/registered with the school is responsible to such affected students/graduates after due verifications.

CSU therefore could not under an oath swear to a replacement diploma but was able to confirm/authenticate Tinubu's diploma as it MATCH with the replacement diploma of other students whose names were redacted for privacy reasons.

First there is nothing like licensed third party vendors (emphasis on licensed).

Secondly, Certificates are not ceremonious in Nigeria.

Any document to be used for official purpose must be original or certified.

America doesn't care where you got your certificate but Nigeria cares.

That's the point.

The certificate Tinubu submitted to INEC wasn't certified and is not from CSU

Usual propaganda by APC keyboard warriors.

Atiku has gone to US and has gotten the proof he wanted.

Certificates in US may be ceremonious but in Nigeria all Certificates to be used officially have to be original or certified.

Ignorance is not an excuse in law, Nigeria doesn't accept uncertified or Certificate that are not original for official purposes.

garfield1:
Re read again,they said replacement are usually made by the school or third party vendors.he clearly said errors are usual.the registrar tactically refused to take a stand,he was neutral

The big question is are uncertified documents accepted officially in Nigeria?


That CSU didn't certify what Tinubu submitted is Tinubu's pain to bear.

He should have asked for an authorized letter to back his uncertified replacement diploma.

He wasn't gonna use the certificate in US where they dont care where it came from.

In Nigeria certificates are not ceremonious, they must be original or certified

garfield1:
It could come from licensed third party vendors which is legal

They never mentioned licensed vendors.

And if the document was done by licensed vendors, there shouldn't be discrepancies on it.

And another thing is does Nigeria accept uncertified documents for official purposes?

garfield1:
It can only be forgery when the school says so

And when the school said the certificate didn't come from them, what doesn't that mean?

LegendHero:
Lol where did they say he printed it from a cyber cafe abi una just dey fabricate story from una brain?

Oh! So you dont know example of third party vendor is cyber cafe and oluwole

LegendHero:
Tinubu already said he lost all his certificates and not only CSU. He already swore an affidavit to that back in 98/99. So what are you’d saying again?

How does swearing that he lost certificate give him the audacity to use something he printed from cyber Cafe as an official document?

LegendHero:
It is just not printed online. It is a third party vendor which they school know help student with their replacement certificate.

It would have been forgery if Tinubu did not graduate from the school and went to a third party to print a fake certificate for him.

How can you say I forge my own certificate when I actually indeed graduated and approach the third party vendor that the school know about themselves?

If Tinubu had submitted the original certificate given by CSU, would CSU have denied the certificate?

But because Tinubu submitted the certificate from Oluwole, CSU denied it.

Go and hold CSU responsible. They were suppose to say the certificate is from us

LegendHero:
Why does he need to tell INEC that? Is it not his certificate?

So if I go back to my school or use all those third party vendor that help people get transcript from schools I have to mention it to someone?

Why should I, is it not my own?

Did he not graduate from school? Is it not his own record?

People who help people apply and get certificate from schools are different from those who just print anything they see online.

It seems you guys are currently hiding under the phrase third-party vendors


Let me remind you...Certificates are not ceremonious in Nigeria.


If you want to use Certificates for official purpose in Nigeria, they must be original or certified.

What's outside vendors?

Oluwole or cybercafe?

LegendHero:
No, the certificate is from a third party vendor that they know help student order replacement certificates. So what make it forged?

Did Tinubu not mention it was a replacement certificate? So why forget a replacement?

Did Tinubu mentioned to INEC that he is submitting a certificate from third party vendor?

Is it CSU's fault that he lost the original one?

LegendHero:
Certified by who? The Nigerian court?

So if I want to use my USA certificate to work in Nigeria, I need to first go and certify it before a company can accept it?

Is it a photocopy?

Are you serious?

It must be certified by the issuing body .
If CSU doesn't certify replacement diploma, Tinubu should have gone to the school or written to them to give an authorized letter to that effect which he will submit to INEC.

You cant use ignorance as an excuse.

LegendHero:
Because the school allow third party vendor to help student get a replacement certificate.

A replacement diploma is different from the actual initial diploma issued upon graduation.

Also in USA, your certificate is useless, they don’t even rate it. If you are applying to universities in USA, most schools only request for transcripts and they won’t even waste time requesting for certificates.

Infact at work, what they request as background check to validate your studentship is your transcripts.

Ignorance is not an excuse in law.

Certificate are not ceremonious in Nigeria.

If you are going to use any Certificate in Nigeria, it must be certified or original.

You cant just go and print Certificate from cyber cafe and submit it. That's forgery

LegendHero:
The school have mentioned time without number that third party vendor can always reproduce their school replacement certificate. It is not uncommon in USA like they mentioned.

This is the wording from Cableng.

Tinubu was going to use the document in Nigeria and not in USA.

In Nigeria, are official documents to be certified or are they just ceremonious?


The way some of you argue like you are not in Nigeria.

All official documents used in Nigeria must be original or must be certified copies.

If not, it is not recognized.

CSU didn't have to say Tinubu forged their certificate.


They already told you the certificate Tinubu submitted is not from them.

That makes it forged.

Miracle2020:
the issue is to compare the certificate given to INEC with the one the school issued. Any results contrary to the one tinubu tender to INEC will be considered a forged results.

It has been confirmed.

The certificate Tinubu submitted had differences when compared with the certified copies given to Atiku.