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Ibkhaleel:
Prophet Muhammad is a Murderer for KILLING the enemies? WHAT ABOUT THE BIBLE'S PROPHETS' MURDERS that were blessed by GOD?

Cutting the hands and feet of the enemies in the Bible, and hanging their live bodies on trees until they DIE.

"They fought against Midian, as the LORD commanded Moses, and killed every man........Now kill all the boys [innocent kids]. And kill every woman who has slept with a man, but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man. (Numbers 31:7,17-18)"

Kill everything that "breathes" from humans and animals!

Go and argue that with the Israelis and adherents of Judaism. Jesus didn't order any of such because there was a shift in dispensation.

Promosaver:
Sorry ooo
This show is total nonsense

I concur.

Odewaleadesoye:
Khalid has been evicted.

Good riddance to bad rubbish. Dirty Fulani boy. Ibkhaleel' s brother.

seunmsg:
They have brainwashed this one with photoshop pictures. That picture was taken barely two weeks ago when Tinubu attended the wedding of Shettima’s daughter in Maiduguri.

Broom, broom, brooooooom, broom-broom, broooooooooooooooooom, broom-broom-broom, broom.

Ibkhaleel:
Common sense: The Quran tells you that the
Quran came to restore the original message
and remind (Dhikr) you of the original message and it explicitly told you that the previous scriptures are corrupted. So what does that mean?

That means the Quran contains the message of those prophets in this book. It restored the message.
This verse here is clear that you cannot
disbelieve in Allah and his messengers as per
Quran and say we believe some parts of the
Quran and disbelieve in others. In fact that is
what Jews and Christians do when they debate. They both share scripture, but they say I believe
in this and I don't believe in that..

You deny Jesus when you do not follow His teachings,
such as He is the only way to the Father and salvation.
You deny Jesus when you do not make Him the center of
your life. Jesus of Nazareth is the Jewish Messiah
foretold thousands of years before His arrival (see here)
by numerous Prophets of God. Jesus led a sinless life.
And only Jesus, the Son of the Father is the awaited
Christ and mediator between you and the Father.
Are we who is denying his teachings or are you,
the one who is following a corrupted scripture.
Jesus is NOT and will never be the center of my
life. Allah is and will forever be. Jesus himself
glorified God. That means he wants you to
glorify God, not Jesus.
Would GOD Almighty validate falsehood? Yes. In 2 Samuel 12:7-12, GOD validated and commanded open pornography between David's wives and all men in town in broad day light. See many other examples of GOD Almighty validating and commanding lies in the Bibles.

A plethora of Prophecies in OT and NT that speak about this Prophet to be a Gentile, and will come from the Southern Lands, and from the Lands of Kedar and Teman (all in Saudi Arabia), and the House of GOD will be established in the deserts of Kedar.

Dude, you're sick. Since you are fond of quoting the Bible. Show us were in the Old and New testaments of the Bible where a gentile prophet was promised. This is part of what we are saying. You must obsess about the Bible. You must seek to use it to validate a religion founded by a criminal over 600 yrs after the last Apostle exited the earth. Can't you just practice your religion without making false references to the Bible?
Just show us those places in the Bible. Don't copy and paste some article from one Islamic journal and be making a fool of yourself here.

Ibkhaleel:
Was Moses or Muhammad Kinder to Jews ?

Both Prophets allowed Jews to return to Israel after being exiled by pagans.

Both Prophets protected Jews from neighboring pagans

Both Prophets devoted their final days to the enlightenment of the Jews

Although only one of these Prophets displayed tolerance, mercy, and love for the Jews, Muhammad.

Once a Jew came to him and out of mischief, greeted him by saying "As-sam Alaikum" (death to you) instead of As-salamu Alaikum (peace be on you). A'isha with anger, gave a harsh reply. But he stopped her and said, "A'isha! Don’t use harsh words; be polite; God likes mildness in everything."

In short, Muhammad was a perfect model of tolerance and love which he taught through his practical example to the rugged, rough and illiterate people of the desert who, as a result, became the teachers and leaders of the world. His behavior towards people, men or women, rich or poor, adult or child, was the same. He spoke to all with civility and politeness and taught others the same through his personal example. The Qur'an mentions this quality of Muhammad in these words,

"It is by the Mercy of God that you deal gently with them, for if you were severe or fierce of heart, they would have dispersed from you." [Qur'aan 3:159]

The Jews in the days of Muhammad often attempted to assassinate him, discredit him, curse him, and defame him, all the while Prophet Muhammad showed Jews love and mercy.



While on the other hand, Jews who so much as questioned Prophet Moses, were murdered;

250 Levite princesses; of the Jews who challenged the leadership of Moses. "their wives, sons and little children were swallowed up by the ground", then sent a fire to consume the remaining princes. Num. 16:1-40

then another 14,700; Israeli protesters killed by plague who object to Moses about the prior killing of the 250 Jewish princesses. Num 16:41-49.

More of Mose's murderous cruelty towards the Jews here

More of Muhammad's love and mercy towards the Jews here

In conclusion, Muhammad by far was the much more loving and merciful Prophet to the Jews.

The guy asked you about Torah, you are selling Muhammadu to him. Are you this slow? Model of Peace and tolerance my arse. What a grand lie!

Ibkhaleel:
Far from being the pure word of God, the Torah that we have today has in fact been tampered with by man.

The Old Testament we have today is a collection of books consisting of the Law, stories of the Prophets and various other writings such as the Psalms. The Hebrew word ‘Torah’ literally means instruction or teaching. It is used by Jews and Christians to refer to the first five books of the Old Testament (Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers and Deuteronomy). They believe these were dictated to Moses by God Almighty.

The first problem we must deal with when discussing the Torah is the fact that there are many different versions being used today by Jews and Christians. Here are some examples of texts that contain different versions of the Torah. They are listed in order of oldest surviving manuscript evidence [1]:

Dead Sea Scrolls (DSS) – These are a collection of texts discovered between 1946 and 1956 inside caves near the Dead Sea. The texts are of great religious significance because they include the earliest known surviving manuscripts of the Old Testament but many are fragmentary. The scrolls date from approximately 150 BCE – 70 CE.
Septuagint (LXX) – This is the primary Greek translation of the Old Testament. It was completed by Jewish scholars in the late 2nd century BCE and the oldest manuscript evidence is the 2nd century BCE. Relatively complete manuscripts of the LXX include the Codex Vaticanus and the Codex Sinaiticus of the 4th century CE. These are the oldest surviving nearly-complete manuscripts of the Old Testament in any language.
Masoretic Text (MT) – This is the authoritative Hebrew text of the Old Testament. The oldest extant manuscripts date from around the 9th century CE. This version is favoured by mainstream Judaism.
Samaritan Torah (ST) – This is the Samaritan version of the Torah written in the Samaritan alphabet which is derived from the paleo-Hebrew alphabet used by the Israelite community prior to the Babylonian captivity. The Samaritans represent a sect of Judaism that split off from the mainstream. There are still a few hundred Samaritans living in modern-day Israel. The oldest extant manuscripts date from around the 11th century CE.
The reason why these are classified as different versions, as opposed to different translations, is because there are many thousands of variations that exist between these texts. So how can scholars identify the version of the Torah that is closest to the original Torah given to Moses?



Unfortunately no one knows with certainty which version is the closest to the original Torah given to Moses. The proof of this is the way in which scholars of the Bible construct modern translations. Every modern translation of the Bible is essentially an eclectic translation because it combines from the different versions of the Torah. Sometimes scholars go with manuscripts of the MT, sometimes the LXX and sometimes the ST. By borrowing from the different manuscripts they are essentially creating a new Torah that never existed before!


in many places in the bible Clearly, a third person such as a scribe or chronicler wrote these accounts, and not Moses himself. If Moses had been the writer then we would see the first person narrative being used.

From this we get series of thing the people of the book did.
1. They Changed it.
2. They Altered it
3. They wrote a book and claimed it is from Allah.

Your Allah and the Christian Yahweh are not the same. Handle your religion differently from the Bible.

seunmsg:
I see Sunday Igboho as the modern day Fabunmi. Fabunmi started the Ekitiparapo (Kiriji) war to rid Ekiti land off the criminality and excesses of the Ibadan ajeles. Sunday Igboho is similarly fighting to rid the entire Yoruba land off the criminality and excesses of criminal herdsmen. Fabunmi succeeded in achieving his aim, Sunday Igboho will also succeed.

Kadoso Mutairu!

Aonkuuse:
https://salemgists.com/troops-kill-scores-of-bandits-recover-weapons-and-motorcycles-in-chikun-kaduna-state-video/

You showed us motorcycle and guns. No dead body. You said you killed scores( numbering more than 20) but 5 guns and 6 motorcycles were recovered. Abi I don't know what scores mean again ni?

Ibkhaleel:
The more you write the more you get exposed and disgraced here....I haven't start anything yet!

Your days are numbered

As in this dude here must be a figment of my imagination. I can't believe people like this are real. My Lord!

Ibkhaleel:
And Jesus said...“Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them."matthew5:17


You'll end up disgracing urself here because no human can stand me....

So what law did you think Christ Jesus was referring to? See, when you read the Bible with a prejudiced and silly predisposition, you tend to end up proving to everyone that you are stupid because you will always come short. You can't just be cherry picking words and quotes and think you can use it to do anything meaningful. It exposes you as a mook. But what's so funny to me is how you have been able to synergize your ignorance with arrogance.
Well let me help you. Ever heard of the 10 commandments? You start from there.

Ibkhaleel:
Deaf dumb and blind fellows....I expect you all to combine ur brains and refute my claims...

Stop the empty rants and face me....

Face you! Are you for real? So is it your ghost I have been replying all this while? This programmed dude is irredeemable.

seunmsg:
They never win but them don dey fight over appointment

Kadoso Mutairu! Early momo you don dey nairaland. You're addicted o. Go find something to do naah!

9gerian:
No wonder this guy is trying to steer up tensions. He is igbo. Typical.

SMH.

Good job!

Apexmoh:
The northern leaders need to speak-up, because the constitution allows for free movement. And if the want to chase northerners out, they shoudn't forget to add Dangote, BUA and their investments to the list, cos they too are northerners.

When you finish crying, call me. But as long as Northerners continue to pack themselves like sardines in trucks used to convey animals without any clear business mission, they shall continue to be arrested and interrogated.

Gourdoinc:
The south west is getting to be the most unwelcoming part of this nation. Many amongst them now insult fellow Nigerians regularly. It is a bad precedent.

They better reel in the activities of their thugs and miscreants and advise them to stop harassing fellow Nigerians. This kind of thing doesn't occur in any other part or Nigeria.

Really?

Abdu81:
You need their votes but kill them anyhow are those arrested criminals

Yorubas are very tribal

The north will pay you people back.

The northern elders have warned the Yorubas to stop the killing of northerners.

Even Daily Distrust wouldn't go down to this level of accusation. Where in the post did you see that Yorubas are killing them? They are stopping and questioning them, arresting them self. How does that add up to killing?

Pay back naah! Who is begging you not to? And shove your blasted votes up your collective arses. Northerners are in SW forests planning evil and you expect people to be slack? Nonsense!

ArewaNorth:
https://dailytrust.com/northerners-on-edge-over-ethnic-profiling-in-south-west

Ooomoh! SW dey on high alert o.

Abdu81:
This bad for the unity of Nigeria.

The south west should be more tolerable.

We are one.

We are not.

Ibkhaleel:
Many Christians are often fond of accusing Muslims (Isaiah 56:5: Muslim is the future believers' name. Sons and daughters titles will be "no more" of committing several honor killings in the name of Islam; they then use this line of argument as a reason to discredit Islam in their eyes. In this article we shall once again turn the table on the Christian showing that honor killings can be found in the Bible, and that the Bible is for honor killings! Hence by their own criteria, Christians will have to abandon their own book.



Let us now see the honor killings in the Bibles:



Lev 21:9 And the daughter of any priest, if she profane herself by playing the LovePeddler, she profaneth her father: she shall be burnt with fire.





So note, if the priests daughter commits a bad sexual act, she is to be burned because of her fathers reputation, because it is against his honor. What will Christian say now? This is one example of honor killing in the Bible, in fact the act is ordered by the Bible itself.



"And he that curseth his father, or his mother, shall surely be put to death. (Exodus 21:17)"

"For every one that curseth his father or his mother shall be surely put to death: he hath cursed his father or his mother; his blood shall be upon him. (Leviticus 20:9)"



So here the children are put to death for insulting their parents, this is another example of honor killings, the children are put to death for dis-honoring their very own parents and the punishment is death.



So we have seen 3 examples of honor killings in the Bible, so since Christians always have a problem with honor killings and say Islam is wrong because of some Muslims (Isaiah 56:5: Muslim is the future believers' name. Sons and daughters titles will be "no more" who commit this act, then the Bible is also wrong for allowing honor killings which also makes their own God wrong, and if God is wrong then he cant God because God is always correct. Either way the Christian is in a bad dilemma.

So Moses and his army killed women and children. Moses broke the 6th commmandment, thou shall not kill ANYONE. Or I see, when its in war it okay? Yet when Muslims (Isaiah 56:5: Muslim is the future believers' name. Sons and daughters titles will be "no more" say the 6th commandment is followed, but in war its different, Christians say nooooo. Either way, The Quran does not say kill women and children, I CHALLENGE ANY CHRISTIAN TO BRING THE VERSE RIGHT NOW. We see it in your Bible, one of your greatest prophets killing women and children by God's permission, meaning Jesus allowed it! So hence Jesus was responsible for killing women and children, and so was Moses so according to the Christians own argument, Moses cannot be a prophet since he killed. Note Moses and his army did this to many cities, verse 37 says there was not one city which was strong enough in the plural sense, hence up to 6 or 7 cities were destroyed with its women and children? What is the Christian response?

I wonder what Christians have to say about this? Using their own criteria against them this makes their God a false violent God. So once again Christians should not throw stones if they live in a glass house.



17-18



17 Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him. 18 But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves



What do Christians have to say to this? This is their God commanding Moses to kill the women and CHILDREN and to keep the virgins alive.

When Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him tried to migrate from Mecca to the city of Al-Ta'if, the pagans there had their own children throw rocks on the Prophet until his face and body were swollen and bleeding. The Prophet peace be upon him prayed for the people of Al-Ta'if to be Guided to Islam. And ultimately they were Guided and they embraced Islam.



While Prophet Muhammad loved and forgave children for throwing stones at him, the Bible shows ZERO tolerance to even innocent name-calling from children; let alone having them throwing stones!!




Numbers 31:17-18
"Now kill all the boys [innocent kids]. And kill every woman who has slept with a man, but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man."

According to the historical elaborations about Numbers 31:17-18 Biblical Verses in the Jewish Talmud, the girls in "every girl who has never slept with a man" were AS YOUNG AS 3 YEARS OLD, and were forced into SEX! See the Talmudic and Biblical proofs and quotes here (Terrorism and Pedophilia against 3-year old slave girls in the Bible).

Was Moses a Christian? Did Christ Jesus order any killing? Confused thing

Ibkhaleel:
Absolute trash from a dumb mind

He is intellectually superior to you. He is spiritually more sound too. Too bad you can't take it.

Ibkhaleel:
Shameless polytheist trinitarian pagan...bury your head in shame....


Islam has come to stay...

I pity you hellbound creature

So is every other humanly created religion. They are all here to stay. But the Truth will always prevail at the end

Ibkhaleel:
At a time in human history, we had those
who used religion, particularly Chrisitianity to justify slave trade and racism. Today, we have many who profess christianity while purveying and justifying hatred and bigotry on scales never seen before.
I am not surprised at human capacity for evil.
The Hutus who share the same language, culture and even religion with the Tutsis purveyed hatred that led to genocide.
May you not be afflicted with lack of reading comprehension so that true light will pierce your mind with very rudimentary understanding.

Meaning? The guy asked a direct question but instead of providing answers, you began to yabber about something else. Was he talking about slavery or justifying violence? You just go and copy write-ups from somewhere and paste here. It's really that obvious.

seunmsg:
Empty gibberish just like how Peter Obi sounded in the video. You did not analyze the ideas shared by the two candidates on how to curb corruption, you simply posted lots of words that makes no sense at the end of the day.

Watch the two videos all over again and come back to do a better, logical and sensible analysis

Kady Mutairu! As usual naaa!

Ibkhaleel:
Christian apologists, especially the less
educated ones, often times accuse the Quran of having copied from the Bible. This, they argue, shows that Islam is not from God butis rather a man-made religion.

But this argument can be very easily refuted.
brainless Christian apologist
uses this argument, just give him/her the
following history lesson:

1. The Bible refers to the ruler of Egypt in the times of Abraham and Joseph (peace be upon them) as "Pharaoh" (Genesis 12, 37).

2. Both the Bible and the Quran refer to the Egyptian ruler during the time of Moses (peace be upon him) as "Pharaoh".

3. While the title was used in the time of Moses (peace be upon him), it was NOT used to refer to the Egyptian king in earlier times, such as those of Abraham and Joseph (peace be upon them), which means that the Bible's use of the
term in Genesis is an anachronism.

4. If the charge of "plagiarism" is accurate, then we should expect that the Quran would repeat the error in the Bible when recounting the story of Joseph (Surah 12). And yet, we find that the
Arabic word "firaun" is ONLY used to describe the Egyptian king in the time of Moses (peace be upon him) but NEVER in the time of Joseph (peace be upon him).

5. How could the author of the Quran, assuming He was copying the Bible or other Jewish stories in 7th century Arabia, have known NOT to use the title "firaun" when referring to the Egyptian ruler in the time of Joseph (peace be
upon him)? The "plagiarism" argument
immediately breaks down!


The Bible's contents today were not written by their original authors. For example, we read from the book of Matthew so many verses such as this one:
"..And as Jesus passed forth thence, HE
(Jesus) saw a man, named Matthew, sitting at the receipt of custom: and HE (Jesus) saith unto HIM (Matthew), follow ME (Jesus) and HE (Matthew) arose, and followed HIM (Jesus). (Matthew 9:9)

Did "Matthew" write this about himself? Why then didnt Matthew write for example: "he (Jesus) saw ME, and my name is Matthew. I was sitting at the receipt of custom... etc.

Similarly, we read in the books of Moses things such as "And the LORD said to Moses..or
"Moses went to that place....", etc... We also read in the Old Testament about Moses' burial. Now if Moses alone supposedly wrote his books, then how is it possible for him to write about his own burial when he is already dead??!!
Such evidence can be found in many places throughout the Old Testament and the New Testament. The so called "Original letters/Gospels" that were written in Greek and Hebrew, were written by third party people!

The Bible is a history book. It is not the perfect Word of GOD Almighty. Both the Bible's theologians and the Noble Quran fully recognize that the Bible had been altered and corrupted, and its original manuscripts had been lost.
Therefore, it is not rational nor fair to judge the Noble Quran and Its Divinity using the Bible, especially when the Noble Quran had been proven beyond doubt (as shown above) to be a Miraculous Holy Book with many Prophecies that had been fulfilled.

See, guy, guy, you just succeeded in reinforcing your tormentor's opinion that the Kuran was a bad carbon copy of the Bible. Everybody knows that Muhammadu was born over 600yrs after Christ exited the physical world, so there is no way Kuran can be on the same historical pedestal as the Torah or the Apostles' writings. Argue from an intelligent point of view and stop being emotional. It makes you look and act like a rabid donkey. The more you post your long, filthy comments in defense of your cult, the more you expose yourself as an uneducated, unexposed psychopath. Christianity is your main enemy, I understand. You cannot destroy it, so you're frustrated. But there are other belief systems in this world other than Christianity which also won't buy the crap that Islam is offering. So stop lumping everyone as Christians. Ok?

seunmsg:
He’s empty on ideas and innovations. He will be another Jonathan if he wins. As governor, he was colorless and did nothing extraordinary.

But for you, the man who couldn't say anything other than broom, broom, broom-broom, broooooooooooooooooom when he was given a mic will perform, abi? Dolts everywhere. SMH.

Ibkhaleel:
Shameless polytheist trinitarian pagan


Why must you lie?

Idiot a coward hiding online


Be bold enough to refute ny claims and stop empty rantings...

Wawa arnen banza

The guy boldly and unashamedly professed to be an Ogun worshipper but you still find it so difficult to process. You just must pin it on Christianity; and that shows just how narrow-minded and uninformed you are. For you, any person who doesn't accept Allah or Muhammadu must automatically be a Christian. That's horsecrap. Grow up!

Amodi470:
This should serve as a lesson to other people who blasphemous Insult the Messenger of Allah (S.W.T).
You can abuse God (That's between you and Him) but not his messenger (S.A.W)
This is all you should know.

Invariably, the messenger is greater than the sender. Is that not madness? What exactly are you guys trying to hide that you get so desperate anytime that lying bastard is criticized? I mean, you say all kinds of shit about Jesus and the Bible and about Christians and Israel but nobody gets mad or loose his peace. Why is it that you guys loose your minds anytime your faith is examined or criticized?

Ibkhaleel:
Yes i wil behead you with facts and evidences that xtianity is nvr d true path to salvation....it was only a creation of Paul years after the departure of jesus...he fabricated evrtn for you pools to bliv...

The jews laugh at ur stupidity...if u want us to get deep...am ready to expose you

I am not interested in the fabricated and time wasting, disjointed "facts" that you and your crazy Uztas have convinced yourselves with. Gosh! I have never seen a cult so obsessed with and crazy about creating stories and arguments targeted at destroying the Bible (Christianity by extension) as Islam. And yet their failure so far is yet to convince them about the futility of their efforts. As if that is not enough, the people of the Middle East (the original custodians of Islam) are accepting Christ Jesus in hordes nowadays. But the blacks, whom Arabs treated with disdain and called monkeys and sold for 1300 years are the ones acting stubborn. I keep saying this, that Christianity remains the number 1 threat to Islam. That is why the islamists are obsessed about it. It's like their cult derives it's essence from attacking the Bible. Indeed, without the Bible to disparage and contend with, Islam looses it's relevance. If people start picking the kuran apart like they do the Bible, the psychopaths will start threatening and killing. Any set of Ideas or belief system that immunes itself from criticism and examination by others is at best trying to hide it's falsehood.

MrBrownJay1:
what does braiding hair for $300 in the US got to do with cutting your own hair?!

I know you are not daft. Think now.

etrouble:
Even the Bible says we should maintain peace with all men.

He really messed up by writing a book to blasphem Prophet Muhammad (SAW). As a Muslim myself, that is a serious offense. But it is not my business to punish him for that. That's Prophet Muhammad (SAW) business, not mine. Even if he abuses Allah, that will be Allah's business to sort with him, afterall God should fight for His followers and not the other way round.

That guy that stabbed the Writer will suffer in Earth and in Hell Fire if there is any. I don't have proof of Heaven and He'll Fire except the stories in the Quran and Bible.

News flash! The book is now gonna sell like mad. I am currently grabbing my copy now, now,now, now, nowwwwwwwwww!

Shimran:
Same way your God couldn't do anything to save his helpless son from the forced crucifixion

Let me ask you a question. If you are sent on an assignment to die for the world, would the person who sent him abort the mission again? So next time, you think before you talk. Ok?