Dude! What is wrong with you? Even the Ewes in Ajudah ( land of the Judahites) in Benin will tell you they are Yorubas who migrated from Old-Oyo empire. An Anlo -Ewe first prince named Mawuli Mawuvi who is from the Levite tribe of Benin said an Aja ( judahite) was once king in Oyo. Stop this crap please.

The Ewe people from Benin , Togo and Ghana have migration history from Ile -Ife and Old Oyo empire and will tell you Yorubas are their relatives. These are people who hold a far superior evidence than anyone in west Africa as Hebrews . The Germans who colonized them have these evidences in their museum and even claim old Oyo was Judah and a re relatives of the Ewes.

I’m sure you’re an Egba man trying to patronize yourself . Smh

Dude! What is wrong with you? Even the Ewes in Ajudah ( land of the Judahites) in Benin will tell you they are Yorubas who migrated from Old-Oyo empire. An Anlo first prince named Mawuli Mawuvi who is from the Levite tribe of Benin said an Aja ( judahite) was once king in Oyo. Stop this crap please.

MEILYN:
Lalasticlala

Has anyone here even considered the ethnicity of OP? Check well, he might be Igbo masking with a Yoruba identity to run a smear campaign against Adeyinka Grandson out of fear of Yoruba youth waking up to the truth about Igbos as Adeyinka repeatedly points out.

I am 100% in support of Adeyinka , if you like post a video of him saying all sorts i won’t believe it. If Adeyinka is a scammer then Nnamdi Kanu is an Igbo-centric fraudstar and a conman. RUBBISH!!!

FSU:
It is evident that Egbas are in charge in Yorubaland. Just name some big Yoruba name and he is likely an Egba. What's up with other Yorubas, anyways?

... and how is that your concern? How does that affect your livelihood? You Igbos behave like animals at times. Is Otedola Egba, is Bode Akindele Egba, is K Lawal Egba? Is Mike Adenuga Egba? I can go on and on .

You Igbos should learn to stop causing mischief everywhere, our tolerance isn’t stupidity. You have started claiming Egbas are Igbos now this nonsense .

lawani:
The Egba relocated to Abeokuta from Northern Nigeria, they were led by their Moses, a prince of Oyo called Lisabi hence the saying Egba omo Lisabi. Some people are publishing works saying Egbas are descendants of Igbos who followed the Benin empire to fight wars in the Southwest. This is very sad because Egba was recently established. There was no Egba in the 18th century. Egba was established by refugees. Oyo was the largest city, Owu was the rival both were burnt down. Abeokuta, Ibadan, Ogbomosho, Ijaiye, Ilorin, Gbongan, Modakeke were peopled by those refugees. The Benin was already non existent before the end of the 18th century and there was no Benin induced refugee movement. Benin activities on Yoruba land was restricted to fringes of Ondo and Ekiti states. They took Ijesa territories for like 200 years but all those former Ijesa outposts were independent and standing alone before the end of the 18th century. Some Anioma Igbos would have been among the soldiers as well as Afemai, Urhobo, Itsekiri, Esan and etc including the Yoruba but they never entered Ogun or Osun state. On those lands were well established organised and tax paying nations. You can't pass through the land as a stranger unless granted authourity. The Ijebu were forced open by a combined British and Ibadan force of over 50 thousand men in the 1890s or so. They massed against the British and sacrificed a human being while spoiling for war. Don't go around spreading tales that never happened. The Benin never entered Ijebu territory. The Egba that entered saw hell before being allowed to settle in the 19th century. All the wars are well documented with names of actors. All Egba families know their ancestry and their orikis. It is very disheartening to be reading these kind of works.

Thousands of years ago, the Igbos and the Yoruba were one people. DNA and llinguistics show this clearly but saying Egbas, a very new people are Igbos is too flawed.

Thanks for your narrations, however we are NOT related to the Igbos, that’s insulting, Igbos have recently taken it one step too far by claiming Lagos is no man’s land and Egbas and Ijebu being Igbos. How many times have Yoruba people picked people from their midst and claim them to be Yoruba? This has to stop ! It’s really irritating .

THE YORUBA KINGDOM
The yorubas today occupy the land to the south and west of the lower niger.
They form one of the leading tribes in Nigeria. Their neighbours are the Hausas
And fulanis to the north, the dahomeyans to the west and the Binis or Edos to the
east. There is no evidence to show that they, like the Hausas or the Kanuris, had
any access to the barber cultures.
Origins
Like other west African tribes, the origins of the yorubas are still wrapped in myth
and mystery. Some of the available evidences show that they arrived at their present
homes either in the 10th or 11th century. One of the legends show that they migrated
from the east. It is also suggested that their fore fathers were either Berbers or
Hamites who migrated to the south from areas around the River Nile.
But the most popular and dependable legend says that their ancestors belonged to the
Quresh tribe of Mecca in Saudi Arabia. Their first father, according to this legend, was
Lamrud or Namrud. He had an idol priest called 'Ya-Harba' from where the tribe got its name.
The word 'Ya-Harba' is an Arabic word meaning 'warrior' or 'army - general'. Ya-Harba was the
son of Lamrud.
When Islam was introduced in Mecca in the 7th century, Lamrud, Ya-Harba and their supporters refused to embrace the religion. Soon, the newly converted muslims
were forced to take arms against Lamrud and his pagan supporters. The pagans were
defeated after which they fled the city, crossing the red sea to Africa. They got to Egypt in 648 A. D . Soon they moved to Tripoli ,Algeria and Morocco. During this journey the idol priest, Ya-Harba, consulted his oracle ,and he was told that he and his people should go to wherever the
Oracle directed them. They followed the oracle's direction until they eventually arrived at Ile-Ife.
This was around 900 A. D. Or 1000 A. D. The exact time is not yet known, however.
According to the same legend, Lamrud and his idol-priest, Ya-Harba, died on the way. It was therefore Oduduwa who led the Yorubas to Ile-Ife. This is why Oduduwa, and not Lamrud or Ya-Harba, is referred to today as the 'Father of the Yorubas. But even though Ya-Harba
could not reach Ile-Ife his people decided to immotalise his name by calling their
settlement 'Ya-Harba, ' which was later converted to 'Yoruba'.
There we're some who left Mecca with the Yorubas but who did not get to Ile-Ife.
Some stopped at the bank of the Red Sea. These now form part of the ethnic groups
of the eastern provinces of the Republic of the Sudan. They are known as the Bejas
And the Adandawa in Eritrea and Ethiopia. They have the same figure as the Yorubas
Of Nigeria. Others are the Shajia( also in the Sudan) . They ,like the Yorubas, carry tribal
Marks. In the Chad Republic, there is also another group called the Wadai, who claimed
the same historical background as the Yorubas.




PLEASE POST TO FRONT PAGE SO THAT THE YORUBAS IN NAIRALAND WOULD KNOW THEIR HISTORY.


Source; The History of Africa by A. J Wills(P. hD) 1962

CC;
Seun
Mynd44
Ishilove
Lalasticalla

They’re all fabrications for all I care , and your claims about Mecca being most dependable is disputable , why did I say so?

Arabs were the first people to write after the phoenicians , they started writing earlier than any other people on earth , except for the phoenicians who invented writing.

Arabs are knows to keep records of migrations in and out of their lands and if the Quresh narrative were true it would be documented in their archives.

The East was known as Mecca amongst the Yorubas just as the East was known as Arabia in ancient times. We just have options of so many versions and lies to chose from.

geosegun:


There was Lamurudu, I heard about this story from my grandmother, whom if she were to be alive today would have been more than 100 yrs old.. The journey from Mecca via Egypt down to Sudan then Bornu and then to Ile ife seemed logical to me.. They follow the river down... So it seemed. They actually left due to religious uprising, the oracle has been with the Yoruba from inception. It was even mensioned in some Islamic Hadith. Yoruba used to be idol worshippers even up to this day. Which other tribe have the knowledge of the oracle and uses it like the Yoruba up to this day?

We used to be Idol worshippers until now. Thanks k God for his grace.

Cut your crap ! Yoruba are not Quresh ! The Lamurudu narrative was made up by the Sokoto Caliphate and the writer of the infakul to make Islam relevant amongst Yorubas. Nimrod NEVER existed, it’s been debunked.

THE YORUBA KINGDOM
The yorubas today occupy the land to the south and west of the lower niger.
They form one of the leading tribes in Nigeria. Their neighbours are the Hausas
And fulanis to the north, the dahomeyans to the west and the Binis or Edos to the
east. There is no evidence to show that they, like the Hausas or the Kanuris, had
any access to the barber cultures.
Origins
Like other west African tribes, the origins of the yorubas are still wrapped in myth
and mystery. Some of the available evidences show that they arrived at their present
homes either in the 10th or 11th century. One of the legends show that they migrated
from the east. It is also suggested that their fore fathers were either Berbers or
Hamites who migrated to the south from areas around the River Nile.
But the most popular and dependable legend says that their ancestors belonged to the
Quresh tribe of Mecca in Saudi Arabia. Their first father, according to this legend, was
Lamrud or Namrud. He had an idol priest called 'Ya-Harba' from where the tribe got its name.
The word 'Ya-Harba' is an Arabic word meaning 'warrior' or 'army - general'. Ya-Harba was the
son of Lamrud.
When Islam was introduced in Mecca in the 7th century, Lamrud, Ya-Harba and their supporters refused to embrace the religion. Soon, the newly converted muslims
were forced to take arms against Lamrud and his pagan supporters. The pagans were
defeated after which they fled the city, crossing the red sea to Africa. They got to Egypt in 648 A. D . Soon they moved to Tripoli ,Algeria and Morocco. During this journey the idol priest, Ya-Harba, consulted his oracle ,and he was told that he and his people should go to wherever the
Oracle directed them. They followed the oracle's direction until they eventually arrived at Ile-Ife.
This was around 900 A. D. Or 1000 A. D. The exact time is not yet known, however.
According to the same legend, Lamrud and his idol-priest, Ya-Harba, died on the way. It was therefore Oduduwa who led the Yorubas to Ile-Ife. This is why Oduduwa, and not Lamrud or Ya-Harba, is referred to today as the 'Father of the Yorubas. But even though Ya-Harba
could not reach Ile-Ife his people decided to immotalise his name by calling their
settlement 'Ya-Harba, ' which was later converted to 'Yoruba'.
There we're some who left Mecca with the Yorubas but who did not get to Ile-Ife.
Some stopped at the bank of the Red Sea. These now form part of the ethnic groups
of the eastern provinces of the Republic of the Sudan. They are known as the Bejas
And the Adandawa in Eritrea and Ethiopia. They have the same figure as the Yorubas
Of Nigeria. Others are the Shajia( also in the Sudan) . They ,like the Yorubas, carry tribal
Marks. In the Chad Republic, there is also another group called the Wadai, who claimed
the same historical background as the Yorubas.




PLEASE POST TO FRONT PAGE SO THAT THE YORUBAS IN NAIRALAND WOULD KNOW THEIR HISTORY.


Source; The History of Africa by A. J Wills(P. hD) 1962

CC;
Seun
Mynd44
Ishilove
Lalasticalla

OP first of all, your post is an insult to the persona of Yoruba, you post such gibberish and closed the statement more insultively by saying readers should post it so Yoruba can know their history, I have a bunch you are Igbo and masking under a Yoruba name.

Secondly, if Yoruba were truly from Mecca, I can assure you the Arabs will have it on records, Arabs were among the first set of people to write and keep records , if such story exists, it would have been found in Arabian records.

So closing your statement with your request about people posting it so Yoruba can know their history is a very daft and stupid statement

folem:
http://www.yorubanation.org/Yoruba.htm


Who are the Yoruba?


The first obvious answer to this question is the Yoruba are a nationality, numbering about 40 million, the majority of whom live in the South Western part of the state of Nigeria in West Africa. Obvious as this answer is, it is not wholly explanatory, and certainly, it is not without its own controversy. First, regarding its explanatory status. One has to add, that the Yoruba are a black people, of Negro stock; that they speak a common language, Yoruba, which belongs to the Kwa group of the Niger-Congo linguistic family, and it has about 12 dialects; that they are a well urbanized group with genius in arts as symbolized in the famous "Ife Bronzes"; that Yoruba people are also found in Togo, Benin Republic and in other parts of the world, including Brazil, Cuba, Trinidad, and the United States. Second, regarding its controversial status, one has to confront the question what makes the Yoruba a nationality, or a nation, not a tribe or clan, and how does one then mark a distinction between Yorubaland and Nigeria. To this last question, there is no better answer than the one provided by Obafemi Awolowo in 1947, to which a later section of this presentation will return. For now, it is necessary to answer the question: "Who are the Yoruba?" by focusing on some critical moments in Yoruba history and thought.

Address these and other issues by focusing on some critical moments in Yoruba
History.

1. The Oduduwa Dynasty and the Founding of the Nation.
Oduduwa is the legendary progenitor of the Yoruba. There are two variants of the story of how he achieved this feat. The first is cosmogonic, the second, political. The cosmogonic version also has two variants. According to the first variant of the cosmogonic myth, Orisanla (Obatala) was the arch-divinity who was chosen by Olodumare, the supreme deity to create a solid land out of the primordial water that constituted the earth and of populating the land with human beings. He descended from heaven on a chain, carrying a small snail shell full of earth, palm kernels and a five-toed chicken. He was to empty the content of the snail shell on the water after placing some pieces of iron on it, and then to place the chicken on the earth to spread it over the primordial water. According to the first version of the story, Obatala completed this task to the satisfaction of Olodumare. He was then given the task of making the physical body of human beings after which Olodumare would give them the breath of life. He also completed this task and this is why he has the title of "obarisa" the king of orisas. The other variant of the cosmogonic myth does not credit Obatala with the completion of the task. While it concedes that Obatala was given the task, it avers that Obatala got drunk even before he got to the earth and he was unable to do the job. Olodumare got worried when he did not return on time, and he had to send Oduduwa to find out what was going on. When Oduduwa found Obatala drunk, he simply took over the task and completed it. He created land. The spot on which he landed from heaven and which he redeemed from water to become land is called Ile-Ife and is now considered the sacred and spiritual home of the Yoruba. Obatala was embarrassed when he woke up and, due to this experience, he made it a taboo for any of his devotees to drink palm wine. Olodumare forgave him and gave him the responsibility of molding the physical bodies of human beings. The making of land is a symbolic reference to the founding of the Yoruba kingdoms, and this is why Oduduwa is credited with that achievement (Idowu, 1962).

According to the second version of the myth, there was a pre-existing civilization at Ile-Ife prior to its invasion by a group led by Oduduwa. This group came from the east, where Oduduwa and his group had been persecuted on the basis of religious differences. They came to Ile-Ife and fought and conquered the pre-existing Igbo (unrelated to the present Igbo) inhabitants led by Oreluere (Obatala). Obviously, there is a connection between the two versions of the story. The political one may be the authentic story of the founding of Ife kingdom through conquest. However, the myth of creation lends it a legitimacy that is denied by the conquest story; just as it appears that it is lent some credence by the fact that, as a result of the embarrassment it caused their deity, the followers of Obatala are forbidden from taking palm wine. Indeed the second version of the cosmogonic myth also appears to foreshadow the political variant. The claim that Obatala got drunk and the task of creation had to be performed by Oduduwa already has some political coloration which is now explicit in the political version of the tradition. What is crucial in both variants of the story is the role of Oduduwa as the founder of the Yoruba nation which is why the name cannot be forgotten. Oduduwa is the symbol of the nation, the rallying point for al those who subscribe to the Yoruba identity. The name Yoruba itself, according to historians Smith, Atanda and others, was fixed on us by our northern neighbors and later popularized by colonial publications. Before then, the "Anago" to which some Yoruba in the present Benin Republic and others in the new world still use to refer to themselves, was used to refer to most of the people called Yoruba today. A common origin and language, as well as common political and religious cultures made the Yoruba a nation long before any contact with Europeans and the advent of colonialism.

2. Moremi 's Patriotism and the Survival of the Nation Upon the death of Oduduwa, there was a dispersal of his children from Ife to found other kingdoms. These original founders of the Yoruba nation included Olowu of Owu (son of Oduduwa's daughter), Alaketu of Ketu (son of a princess), Oba of Benin, Oragun of Ila, Onisabe of Sabe, Olupopo of Popo, and Oranyan of Oyo. Each of them made a mark in the subsequent urbanization and consolidation of Yoruba confederacy of kingdoms, with each kingdom tracing its origin to Ile-Ife.

After the dispersal, the aborigines, the Igbo, became difficult, and constituted a serious threat to the survival of Ife. Thought to be survivors of the old occupants of the land before the arrival of Oduduwa, these people now turned themselves into marauders. They would come to town in costumes made of raffia with terrible and fearsome appearances, and the Ife people would flee. Then the Igbo would burn down houses and loot the markets. Then came Moremi on the scene-like Deborah of the Old Testament. When no man could dare the Igbos, Moremi asked the Esinminrin river for help and promised to give offerings if she could save her people. The orisa told her to allow herself to be captured and to understudy the Igbo people. She did, and discovered that these were not spirits; only people with raffia for dress. She escaped, and taught her people the trick. The next time that Igbo people came, they were roundly defeated. Moremi then had to go back to Esinminrin to thank the gods. Every offering she offered was refused. On divination, she was told she had to give Oluorogbo, her only son. She did. The lesson of Moremi is the lesson of patriotism and selflessness. The reward may not be reaped in one's life time. Moremi passed on and became a member of the Yoruba pantheon . The Edi festival celebrates the defeat of the Igbo and the sacrifice of Oluorogbo till today.

3. The Oranmiyan Adventures, Afonja Treachery, Internal Division, Enslavement and the Fall of the Nation. Oranmiyan was the last of the Oduduwa offsprings. But he was the most adventurous and the founder of Oyo Kingdom. On some accounts, he was the third ruler of Ife as successor to Oduduwa. But he later decided to avenge the expulsion of his father from the East, and so, he led an expedition. After many years on the road, and as a result of disagreement between him and his people, he could not go further. Feeling too ashamed to go back, he appealed to the King of Nupe for a land to found his kingdom. He was obliged, and that land became the nucleus of Old Oyo Kingdom. Oranmiyan, taking the title of Alafin, succeeded in raising a very strong military and effectively expanded his kingdom. His successors, including Sango, the mythical god of thunder, Aganju and Oluasho were also as strong. Peace and tranquility prevailed during the reign of Abiodun, though it also experienced the decline of the army. (SONG). Awole Arogangan was Abiodun' s successor and it was during his reign that trouble started for the kingdom. He was forced to commit suicide; but before his death he was said to have pronounced a curse on all Yoruba, that they will not unite and that they will be taken captives.

Afonja was the Kakanfo, the generalsimo of the Army, in the northern Yoruba town of Ilorin, during the reign of Awole and his successor. Afonja refused to recognize the new king, and invited the Fulani who were then leading a jihad to the south, to assist him against the king. They did, but he did not survive himself, because the Fulani, after helping him defeat the Alafin also turned against him. They fired numerous arrows at him and his dead body was stood erect on those arrows as they stuck into his body. The treachery of Afonja marked the beginning of the end of the Oyo empire and with it the decline of the Yoruba nation. Civil war erupted among the various Yoruba kingdoms: Oyo, Ijesa, Ekiti, Ijaiye, Abeokuta and Ibadan. As this was going on, Dahomey on the west and the Borgu on the north were also posing trouble for the Yoruba kingdoms until the intervention of the British and the imposition of colonial rule.

Those who argue that there was no consciousness of a common Yoruba identity until the 19th century may be referring to these civil war episodes in the life of the nation. But they forget that these people, in spite of the civil war, share a sense of common origin and common language. And it is to be noted that the so-called peace that was imposed by the British could not have lasted had there not been a sense of consciousness of coming from a common origin.


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My comment.


I disagree with (unrelated to the present Igbo) part. I think the aborigines of Yoruba were the Igbo. The Moremi "Masquerade" is said to be similar to Aguleri or some Igbo Masquerade.

They weren’t present Igbo people, they were known as Ugbo present day Ilaje people , and yes they were aboriginal to yorubaland

ogechi84:
the Yoruba's,s were called the babalawos.

Are you okay?

folem:
Yoruba is claimed by some historians to be an Hausa word describing the Oyo people i.e a corrupted form of Oyo Eru Oba to describe the relationship between the people and the King.

Yoruba were a Migrating people and the question to ask next will be - Who are the Aborigines of the Yorubas .
It may possibly be the Igbos and Mitochodrial DNA research may actually be able to tell us that we are all related and then put a stop to ethnic bickerings.

The Masquerade that Moremi found the secret of is actually an Igbo Masquerade.

It’s not Igbo , it’s Ugbo and it was referring to Ilaje people

macof:
lmao. funny how the hebrew word for catastrophe is "shoah" (שואה) a clear usage of the "sh" sound.
rather than make ridiculous claims, why not post a semitic linguists report on hebrew language not having the feature you say. Because so far you have no sources

lmao God has nothing to do with linguistics and history. leave religion out of those..its apparent that you are one of those whose brain has been fried by foreign religions.
Another example of the destructive nature of these religions in africa

The Hebrew language spoken today is man-made not paleo.

OlaoChi:


A research of madness
All these people are just pyschos

Worry about your Igbo tribe, leave them alone.

hakimi1974:
I read a very voluminous book by an igbo author concerning the cultural affinity between the igbos and the jews, and i must say it was an eye opener.

I know who you’re talking about , Remy Ilona, don’t mind that guy, he’s too desperate for a Jewish identity for the Igbos

9jakool:

Two or more people can share an opinion, even an obscured one at that. I'll lay out these question, why don't Yorubas follow Jewish Kosher or sacrificial laws? And who is Rabbi Mathew? What's his last name? What town in Ethiopia is his family from? What's his ethnicity? Why don't Yorubas use the Hebrew script? Why don't they use the torah? Why don't they celebrate mitzvah? Why don't they recognize passover? Why do Yorubas have orishas? Why do they use ifa? There are too many inconsistencies. For any correlations you can think of, there are tons of dissimilarities.

If you are familiar with biblical texts you will understand why Yoruba can claim to be Hebrews yet have Orishas and not observe Passover and Kosher and what have you. In the bible , it state that the people will lose their heritage and desist from worshipping the God of their fathers. I’m Jeremiaiah 44, it shows us how the Hebrews vowed never to worship God but stick to their idol worship and never let go of it.

Yoruba diety worship is SABIANISM, SABIANISM was adopted by the Hebrews once they discovered they drifted away from God and they assumed they could no longer communicate directly to their God, they adopted infusion of spirits and other forces as intermediaries between them and God. If any tribe claims to be Hebrews today and still claim to practise the ancient Hebraic ways to the T, you can be rest assured they are pretenders.

The reason why the real people were cursed was as a result of their refusal to desist from idol worship. The signs are semblance with Judaism you find in their culture and tradition today. That’s the pointer.

Per the circumcision, Yoruba has an old saying “ O ko ra e Sita bi Omo ojo mejo” which in English translates to “ he exposed himself/manhood like an 8th day old baby”. This is significant to circumcision that they do on the 8th day. They won’t use such an expression from a practise they aren’t engaged in.

Just as Olu317 said, Ancient Yoruba had two days set aside similar to Sabbath, one was a GENERAL no-work day while the other was designated for each deity attached to your proffession or line of work. There were severe penalties if caught working on that day.

Part of Yoruba dietary law ( exact same as that of the Hebrews, included restriction from consuming Pork, eating Pork was an abomination, even prior to emergence of Muhamedans/Islam or missionaries.

What you will find are snippets of Judaism embedded in their practices NOT Judaism practised to the T.

It took us so long to get to where we settled, we have adopted and mixed with different cultures which has deprived us of our original cutlure , however, snippets of these culture still remains

Olu317:
I do but I am not duty bound to proof anything to you. Ìlè nì à tì ko'eshó ro'dè but you have non. If you want evidence, keep searching, perhaps mother nature will help. You are the one whose inferiority complex dwell heavily on. As simple as ABC,you are an àkò'gbà òmò because, you use negative words in an unbridled manner. If you doubt? do serious check on yourself and see the reason, you hardly have loyal companions or friends worth relaying on. Laugh over it, I insist,you don't have. You can only use deception on here because it is faceless.
Àbó óró nì ànsó fún ómólúàbí tì o báà dè ìnù è à dì odìdì.
Call me a seer,I am!

Proof : Yoruba migrated from Canaan where did Igbo migrate from ? Show us a record

Olu317:
Trust me ,Yoruba is a Race and not just an ethnic group.

Point of correction please, I’m Yoruba too. The name Yoruba is a confederation of a group of people known as Erhvehs, we weren’t known as yoruba in time past till around 200 years ago when Samuel Crowther used by the British missionaries to rename us as a people.

Erhvehs are Hebrews and those who made up the Erhvehs were the Ewes ( Gadangme, Dahomey and the Eyeo better known as Oyo) our migration history octo the sub-Sahara occurred at the same time as we arrived in Nigeria in groves with Canaan as our take off point.

The truth will be revealed , it’s just a matter of time till all omoluwabi ( Omo ti oluwa bi ) will come to our true awakening. Erhveh land was knows as Hebrew land in times past because all the settlers in this land were people of Hebrew descent.

It's funny how threads like this about Yoruba are created by igbo posters (obiagu1) - and most of the clowns who troll, and post dumb comments on the same thread are igbos... You guys are inbred with tribalism, and hatred for Yoruba people..

When has Yoruba people ever claimed any minority group?? We don't even claim Yoruboid groups like Ilajes, and itsekiris in Delta - yet, an Igbo poster deem it right to open an idiotic thread to ask a silly question..We don't even claim Yoruba subgroups in both Kwara, and Kogi states - the OP, and Obiagu1 need to get a life.. Worry about igboid groups denying their ancestry, and leave Yoruba people alone..

Keep writing letters to Ikwerre people begging to claim igbo ancestry, clowns - and keep Yoruba out of your mouth.. What do Edo people have that's beneficial to Yoruba anyways.. We may share the same ancestry, but we're different people..

Thank you my brother, Igbos have hate and bigotry for Yoruba bitten deep into their fabrics, they are so petty and would stoop to the lowest to smear the image of Yoruba. These are a bunch of people who acts like they are custodians of Yoruba history and culture when in fact they are supposed to worry about themselves and stop acting as idiots all over the place

musicwriter:
The Jews/Israelites are scattered all over the world. They're not even in Israel today. But, in all honesty, as far as Nigeria is concerned I think the people that fit more to the Jewish heritage are Igbos, without a doubt. There're physical prove of that.

1. Mattew chapter 1 vs 7 reads: And Solomon begat Roboam; and Roboam begat Abia; and Abia begat Asa.

Abis state: God's own state.

2. Genesis chapter 46 vs 16 reads: And the sons of Gad; Ziphion, and Haggi, Shuni, and Ezbon, Eri, and Arodi, and Areli.

Umul-Eri in Anambra state. It literally itranslates as ''The children of Eri''.
I'm presently working on a research to track down the original Jews/Israelites of the bible, using Geography and History. My initial findings is very interesting. I've published part of it and you can read it at http://www.africason.com/2015/07/modern-israel-is-not-descendant-of.html?m=1

For more insight, see above link and make sure you watch the video on the bottom of given link.

If you think Abia was the real name biblical Abia was called then you being deluded, Eri,Arodi aren’t the real names of the biblical people you refer to, I’m sure if you called who we know as biblical Eri by the name Eri in those days , I can assure you he won’t respond.

Those names and locations such as Obu-Gad were all forged in the 80’s , the community was known as Obu-Uga which had a different meaning . Eri you refer to as biblical was an Igala warrior who set up camp in Egugwu-Uku known as Enugu today, he didn’t have anything to do with Igbos and the chronology of the Eri kings of Jgboland Eze-Nri has been researched and they do not align with the biblical Eri.

musicwriter:
The Jews/Israelites are scattered all over the world. They're not even in Israel today. But, in all honesty, as far as Nigeria is concerned I think the people that fit more to the Jewish heritage are Igbos, without a doubt. There're physical prove of that.

1. Mattew chapter 1 vs 7 reads: And Solomon begat Roboam; and Roboam begat Abia; and Abia begat Asa.

Abis state: God's own state.

2. Genesis chapter 46 vs 16 reads: And the sons of Gad; Ziphion, and Haggi, Shuni, and Ezbon, Eri, and Arodi, and Areli.

Umul-Eri in Anambra state. It literally itranslates as ''The children of Eri''.



I'm presently working on a research to track down the original Jews/Israelites of the bible, using Geography and History. My initial findings is very interesting. I've published part of it and you can read it at http://www.africason.com/2015/07/modern-israel-is-not-descendant-of.html?m=1

For more insight, see above link and make sure you watch the video on the bottom of given link.

If you think Abia was the real name biblical Abia was called then you being deluded, Eri,Arodi aren’t the real names of the biblical people you refer to, I’m sure if you called who we know as biblical Eri by the name Eri in those days , I can assure you he won’t respond.

Those names and locations such as Obu-Gad were all forged in the 80’s , the community was known as Obu-Uga which had a different meaning . Eri you refer to as biblical was an Igala warrior who set up camp in Egugwu-Uku known as Enugu today, he didn’t have anything to do with Igbos and the chronology of the Eri kings of Jgboland Eze-Nri has been researched and they do not align with the biblical Eri.

MrRobot:
Op I have to disagree with you.. The Igbos are not in any competition with the Yorubas..In fact it's an insult to say that. The problem with the yorubas is the fear of the Igbos. They envy the Igbos who have done the impossible – standing up to their enemies; and exercising their inalienable rights to self preservation.

Lol, please enlighten me how Yorubas fear Igbos. The problem with Igbos is that you are blinded by self-adulation which makes many of you engage in senseless chest- beating in the face of abject falsehood & wishful thinking. Tell me what Yorubas fear about Igbos.

Hausas have been killing your people for so long , there has never been a case of Igbos fighting them physically like Yoruba youths have done in Ibadan and Lagos.

I’m sure you are not aware of what transpired in Sabo Ibadan? I was in the university of Ibadan then and was part of the fight when they murdered a Yoruba student in sabo, go and asked what we did to them.

Silence of a tiger is not an act of cowardice, Yoruba are very calculating and will weigh the pros-and cons before attempting anything, Igbos on the contrary will go head on like raging bulls without considering the consequences and that’s evident in the recent python dance which got many of you killed while Kanu your leader ran away after causing mischief and disrupt.

Same can be said of your run away leaders Zik and Ojukwu who ran to Ghana and Ivory Coast respectively .

Igbos are suicidal and Yorubas are calculative and slow to react that SHOULD NEVER translate to cowardice.

We don’t fear Igbos, we only marvel at how much you people engage in suicidal acts.

Yoruba are giants, and giants won’t move till it’s provoked.

BabaRamota1980:
Ive said it. Without Yoruba to attach to, Ibo is nothing.

They need us for relevance.

Stop being ignorant and stupid. If Igbos make such defaming and derogatory comments must you stoop to that level? We all need each other that’s the plain truth. Stop being a devils incarnate.

Olu317:
My dear brother, I find it disheartening reading many fairytale on NL and it is so bad. Do you even know the correct word in Yoruba for human, mankind,created human/mankind is ‘édà or human being is ‘édà ènìyán . Take for instance élé'dà (creator) and édà ( created being/human) . But today you will marvel at the way revisionism of some sort has blinded many, just because some Yorubas feels, Yoruba must be related to neighbouring ethnic groups. In this same West Africa, there are tribes/clans/ ethnic groups such as, Ibos that calls father as ‘nna', Ga calls father as ‘do da' , Setwana calls father as - Ra . How are these related to Yoruba Ba,Abba,Uba as father? Some also claim fon as same ancestry with Yorubas. Fon ,who claimed female was the Supreme being that is called nana buluku,who gave birth to mawin and lisa and created the universe. How does this relate to. Yoruba Èlèdùmàrè? Some over lettered assumed father is ‘Baba', which is blatant false because ‘Baba' is grandfather in proper and standard Yoruba. This is the reason, you and I see Yoruba bears Bàbàtundè,Bàbàrìnsà, Babawalè etc. Hopefully, people with the deep knowledge of Yoruba indigenous lexicon will correct this anomaly.

You are very right, of all the tribes listed above, Yorubas are only related to the Ga tribe in Ghana, they have records of their migration from Old Oyo , same applies to the Ewe people of Benin & Togo. We were all known as Erhvehs prior to emergence of the colonizers.

Originakalokalo:


Then why are you still a Muslim?

I meant to say I was a Muslim, I no longer am and never will be.

asha80:


E le kwanu nke wu yoruba swagger

Some people have lost their brains.

So are you saying it’s igbos that have swagger? Lol, sense no de your head, yorubas taught Nigeria fashion. Igbos wey be say na Aba- made okirika dem de wear about. Yam legged maggots.

Becomrichn:
How will NBA star Ian mahinmi(Dallas Mavericks) feel, about Yoruba Unification.


he is from benin republic

Will it not be history, what type of baskeball team would we have. How does the politics change.

How does it affect you and your family.
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Igbos and their rubbish envy, anyone from Benin republic is Yoruba, they will tell you that themselves, Dahomey broke out of old-Oyo empire in ancient times that is why we share similar cultures and dialect.

NubaVertigo:
Okay, on a serious note. I've been looking online and realized Yorubas have 93.x% E-V38(e1b1a) frequency and 4.x% R1b frequency. Our neighbors, the Ewe, who I've always considered to be extremely close to the Yorubas have like 98% E-V38(e1b1a) haplogroup. Anyway, I wonder if R1b1 is the Oduduwa contribution in our history. Nobody really knows where he was from but who knows, that little genetic grouping might prove the oral history... As far as the actual topic here, yeah I agree with Nobody and JikanBaura... people be trippin

I’m even surprised how Igbos carry the E1b1a haplogroup DNA Marker, we aren’t related and we look nothing alike. I was puzzled when I discovered Hausas carried the R1b1b which was found in the Asians and Ashkenazis, whites to be precise.

Lol alright man do as you please.
You lot can be from Scotland for all we care, that's your business. We know our history, we don't need outsiders changing it for us.

Besides, as long as no Hausa person is subscribing to this rubbish as im sure none will you headless chickens can go about doing what you please. Continue "reviewing" hausas who don't give a damn about what you think or say.

Hausas are from Bhagdad, read up your history. Yorubas are not from Mecca, we migrated from Canaan.

Lol. Okay you angry troll. Im just saying, we should be excluded because we're not supposed to be in here in the first place. We never claimed we are not african, our history certainly has never claimed we are not Africans? Igbos are from Israel, Yorubas from Mecca, we never claimed non African origin, nothing suggest we are non African so why are we included in this again? When you lot are trying to solve your confusion I just don't understand why you also have to include us in your madness.[/quote]

Yorubas are not from Mecca, we migrated to Nigeria from Canaan. Hausas are from Bhagdaad.

I’m a Muslim and I know everything about Islam is based on lies, Muhammad is a guy man.. a paedophile and a liar

Another man’s wife ? You well so?

africandollar:
Having a fair skin makes one look more beautiful but she fine...oh Lord she just too fine!