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Happy New Year everyone.

and specifically, thanks so very much Justcool towards contributing to my growth and insight.

Hello Justcool,

Thanks for your much-valued replies.

Had an inquiry on the treatment of animals. The Abrahamic faiths Judaism and Islam both have stipulations on how to dispatch animals (for food). As a side note, Christianity does not. I know of one Asian faith where it stipulates to kill animals by a sudden and massive blow to the head so that death is instantaneous. As all these rules are actually meant to prevent cruelty to the animal and make its death more humane, had wanted to ask what are the ramifications of doing the opposite wrt the Creation Laws?
Animals do not produce 'forms" in Creation so what kind of negative energies are released in Creation by our ill-treatment of them individually or collectively?

Merci

Hello Justcool,

In the Message, it is mentioned that when the neutral Creative Power (that spirits use to form according to their volition perpetually) is used negatively, it suffers a "dimming" and becomes denser/less pure.
Also, it is mentioned that higher spirits can always move to planes lower than theirs but lower spirits cannot move to higher planes/spheres.
Besides, final victory will always be by and for the Light.
Given the above, why is it that (as mentioned in the Message) when a lighter spirit wants to lawfully incarnate in an earth-body it will withdraw before a darker spirit also wanting to (unlawfully) incarnate in the same body. If anything, the darker one has to withdraw before the lighter spirit.

Thanks as always.

Hello and thanks Justcool.

Your time and effort to enlighten the questions is very much appreciated and valued.

Hello,

Question regarding Forerunners/Light Messengers

Why does the Light send (sometimes) spirits who are still themselves developing (i.e. not yet perfected) on missions for spreading the Light-Message on earth?

Would it not be more appropriate to send perfected spirits or better yet, the elders/knights in the Grail Castle (e.g. Krishna)?

testing again

testing

Hello Justcool,

All the best in your journey to higher consciousness and recognitions. Look forward to the enlightenment that we will be privileged to have from you.

A quote from E. E, Hale for you (apropos of nothing related to your present experiences)

"I am only one, but I am one. I cannot do everything, but I can do something. And because I cannot do everything, I will not refuse to do the something that I can do. What I can do, I should do. And what I should do, by the grace of God, I will do."

Cheers

Hello Justcool,

Thanks and very happy and glad to see your post. Have a perky week ahead.

Hello Justcool and all,

Qstn:

Had please wanted to inquire what is the correct way (in accordance with the Laws) for human spirits to show gratitude/give thanks to the elemental beings for their work in Creation and more specifically for their work on earth in providing us with our food and the regulation of the elements..........etc.

Many thanks as always and have a fine weekend.

hello Justcool,

had pls wanted to ask if the event of the lady cleaning Jesus' feet with spikenard perfume and wiping with her hair had any underlying "Grail significance"?

gracias as always

Muchas gracias Justcool for your set-by-step explanation. Your cup doth overfloweth with insight..........

Have a relaxing I-day week...................

Thank you too kingviny for your sharing.

Thanks Justcool for the elucidations..........& Shinealight.

I too had the same questions as Shinalight wrt spirit-germs and their choice of activity. Specifically, wanted to inquire at what point of their journey is the choice made. In the chapter Spirit-germs in Vol. 3, we are told of the ethereal plane where the one of the two animistic cloaks rcvd by the spirit-germs in the animistic realm develops into a human form and the germ begins its coming-to-consciousness (but the spirit-germ itself does not yet at this point fashion itself into a human form).
Is this the point at which the the choice is made and the separation begins into male and female forms? Or does it happen after leaving this entry-point ethereal plane?

Thanks.


and Justcool------I have to confess that I also had other motives wrt your Sunday family time----------I like your responses to be as pressure-free and patiently thought out as possible and also as long as possible (thesis-like in volume :-)...................but, once again, thank you so very much for your time and patience. It is very deeply appreciated.

Hello Justcool,

Thanks for the time you took to reply earlier. It is my request that you please do not use your family time to respond to my queries and take your time at it.

Qstn:

Once a spirit reaches the planes of the ethereal realm after living off the thought and word-forms in fine gross matter, does it ever have to return to the earth again i.e. is all its development now just going to be in the ethereal planes and onwards?

Thanks

Hello Justcool,

JFYI,

Earlier in the thread, I had asked about the activities of spirits in their home-plane (Paradise)and how they function to enhance Creation. The chapter Consider What is of Benefit for You in Vol. 3 partially explains this.

Thanks and have a pleasant Sunday.

Hello Justcool,

Thanks so very much for all your patient responses above and congrats on the book...........the first of many.

My next set of inquiries relates to the journey of the soul after leaving the body. I please wanted to ask what planes it goes through before entering the ethereal realm planes. The soul has to live off its thoughts (not intuitive thoughts), words and deeds. At which Gross Material planes are these lived off and how are these lived off as they are not formed with the use of the Neutral Living Power and as such not "living forms" as in the ethereal realm/planes.

Secondly, once spirits enter the ethereal realm, do they incarnate from out of there back to the earth?

The pasting below is from the chapter The Little Elemental Beings from Vol. 3




But nevertheless, for the sake of a better understanding, let us first consider their activity as seen from your side. In accordance with the Law that with every volition the spirit exerts a pressure here in the Material World, also upon the small Substantiality that is only Animistic, so you leave an imprint upon the little elemental beings with your thoughts and deeds. These little elementals then form in fine gross matter everything which is transferred to them by this pressure. Let us therefore say, from your point of view, that they carry out all your volitions!

In the first place your spiritual volition! Spiritual volition, however, is intuitive perception! The little elementals form it in fine gross matter exactly according to the volition that has issued from the spirit. They immediately take up the thread which springs forth from your volition and from your deed, and fashion at the end of the thread that form which corresponds exactly with this thread of will.

Such is the nature of the activity of the little elementals, which you do not yet know in their actual working.
In this way they create or, better said, they form the plane of Fine Gross Matter, which awaits you when you have to pass over into the Ethereal World! It is the threshold thereto for your soul where, to use your expression, it must first “purify” itself after earthly death, before it is able to enter the Ethereal World.
The stay of the soul on this plane is of longer or shorter duration depending upon its inner quality and upon whether, through its various propensities and weaknesses, it strove with greater or lesser strength after the gross material.
This plane of finer gross matter has already been seen by many people. It still belongs to the World of Gross Matter and is formed by the elemental beings which prepare the path of the human spirit everywhere.

This is very important for you to know: The elemental beings prepare for the human spirit, and thus also for the human soul as well as for earthman, that path which he must follow whether he wants to or not!
These elemental beings are influenced by man and also apparently directed by him. But only apparently, for the actual direction in this matter does not come from man but from the Will of God, the adamantine Law of Creation, which stationed this group of elementals at this place and directs their activity in the swinging of the Law.
All the thought-forms also come about through a similar activity of the elementals. However, this work is again carried out by a different group and a different species of the elementals, which also develop a special plane in fine gross matter alongside the first.
In this way landscapes, villages and towns also arise. That which is beautiful and that which is ugly! However, the different kinds are always precisely linked together, i.e., the ugly with the ugly, the beautiful with the beautiful, corresponding to the homogeneous species.

These are the places, the planes, in which you must still move about after your earthly death, before you can enter the Ethereal World. The coarsest which still clings to your soul in the earthly sense is cast off and left behind here. Not one little speck of this dust can you take along with you into the Ethereal World. It would hold you back until it has fallen off, i.e., until you have lived it off through recognition.
Thus the soul must journey slowly onwards after earthly death; it must climb step by step, i.e., plane by plane, through constant recognition by personal experience of that which it acquired.
Wearisome is the path if the elementals had to build dark or gloomy places for you, depending on your volition here upon earth. It is always you who give the cause for it! —

Now you know what the little elementals do and how they work for you under your influence: It is in the Law of Reciprocal Action! The little elementals thereby weave your fate! They are the little master weavers which work for you, because they always and only weave in such a manner as you wish it through your inner intuitive perception, likewise through your thinking and also your actions!
Yet in spite of this they are not in your service! —

There are three species of such elemental beings alone which are busy with this. The one species weaves all the threads of your intuitive perception, the second one the threads of your thinking, and the third the threads of your actions.
It is not to be assumed that this is one weaving only, but there are three; however, they are linked with each other and also again linked with many other weavings besides. A whole army is busy at this work. And these threads are coloured according to their nature. But I must not carry my explanations so far yet, or we shall get into depths which are still incomprehensible to you and would never find an end. You could not get a clear picture thereby!
Therefore let us concern ourselves with the individual person for the time being. Apart from other things there issue three weavings from him, each of a different nature, because his intuitive perception is not always identical with his thinking, nor is his thinking always in strict accord with his actions! In addition, the threads of the intuitive perception are of an altogether different nature, for they reach into the Ethereal and Spiritual Spheres and are anchored there, while the threads of his thinking remain in fine gross matter only, and must be lived off there.
The threads issuing from the actions, however, are still more dense and heavy, and they are therefore anchored closest to life on earth, and must first be journeyed through and lived off after departure from the earth before it is at all possible for a soul to continue.

You have no idea how far many a soul must travel just to be able to enter the Ethereal World, not to speak of the Spiritual Sphere!
In his superficial way man simply calls all this “the beyond” and is satisfied with that. In his indolence he pours everything into one pot!

Many souls are earthbound over a long period because they are suspended on threads which are firmly anchored close to this heavy gross matter. The soul cannot release itself from them until it has lived itself free of them, i.e., when in the course of its compulsory journey through them it came to the recognition that all these things possess neither the value nor the importance which the soul had attached to them, and that it was futile and wrong to waste so much time on them while on earth. This often takes a very long time and it is sometimes very bitter!
Meanwhile many souls are again attracted from out of heavy gross matter, and they are incarnated again and ever again on earth without ever having been in the Ethereal World during that time. They had to remain in fine gross matter because they were unable to free themselves quickly enough. The threads held them too tightly therein. And in this it is impossible to slip through by cunning!

So much is possible for man here upon earth which he is unable to do after his departure. He then hangs more firmly in the Law of this Creation, experiencing everything instantly without the interference of a ponderous gross material cloak to delay matters. The earthly cloak is able to delay through its dense heaviness and impermeability, but it can never actually prevent. Therefore many things awaiting redemption are only postponed, but nothing is ever cancelled.
Everything that man here upon earth has perceived and thought is awaiting him, as well as the strict and just consequences of his actions!

When a man perceives intuitively then the threads thereby produced, which seem like small seeds sprouting forth from the soil, are taken up and cared for by the little elementals. And just as it is in heavy gross matter, the weeds receive exactly the same careful attention as the best plants. As the threads develop they are anchored for the first time at the border of fine gross matter, where they pass into the hands of a different species of the elementals, which lead them onward through the Ethereal World. They are again anchored at the border of the Ethereal World, and passed on into the Animistic Sphere. From the Animistic Sphere they then reach the Spiritual Sphere, where they are finally anchored again by a different species of the elementals.

Such is the path of a good volition which leads upwards. The path of an evil volition is guided downwards in the same way.
With each anchorage at a border these threads lose a certain species of their substance, which they leave behind in order to be able to proceed into the next sphere. This, too, takes place in a lawful manner, exactly corresponding to the particular species of the spheres. And all these developments are subject to the activity of the elementals.
As the intuitive perception of a good volition originates in the mobility of the spirit, these threads are consequently carried into the Spiritual Sphere. From there they pull at the soul or at least hold it fast when it still has to live through or redeem many a thing in fine gross matter. Thus, if there are many such threads anchored in the Spiritual Sphere, the soul cannot sink and fall so quickly as can a soul which carries with itself threads only for fine gross matter, because the latter was spiritually indolent while on earth and only bound itself to the World of Gross Matter, considering its pleasures alone worth striving for.

The soul that is being pulled by the threads of its volition no more sees these threads than does man here on earth, because they are always of a somewhat finer substance than the outermost cloak in which the soul still moves about. At the very moment, however, when the process of living off these threads through recognition enables the cloak to attain the same consistency as the densest among the still existing threads, whereby the soul through the homogeneous nature of its outer cloak could see them, these threads have already fallen off as being redeemed. Consequently it never happens that the soul connected with such threads actually sees them. —
Thus from the earthly point of view these little elementals are in the service of the human spirit because they adjust their activities to the nature of the conscious or unconscious volitions of men. And yet in reality they only act in accordance with the Will of God, Whose Law they thereby fulfil.

Thus their activity is only apparently influenced by the human spirit. For the difference to become evident it depends entirely from which side you look at the matter.
When in the lectures about reciprocal action I spoke of threads which, as they issue from you, are thrust out and attracted, you perhaps until now saw only a conglomeration of threads before your mind’s eye. However, it was not to be supposed that these threads would continue by themselves like worms, but they must pass through hands, must be guided. And these hands belong to the little elementals working therein, of which you could have no knowledge up till now.
But now the picture has come to life and stands before you! Imagine that you are constantly surrounded by these elementals, which observe you and at once take up every thread and guide it to where it belongs. Not only that, but they anchor it and care for it until the seed springs up, indeed until the blossoms and fruit appear! Just as it is here in the World of heavy Gross Matter with the seeds of plants, which are tended by the elemental beings until you can eventually have the fruits thereof!

It is the same basic Law, the same activity, but carried out by other species of the elemental beings which, as we would express it in an earthly way, are specialists in this field. And thus the same weaving, the same activity – the producing of seed, the germination, the growth, the blossoming and the fruit-bearing – under the supervision and care of the elementals, penetrates the entire Creation for everything, no matter what it is and to which species it belongs. The activities of the elemental beings cover every single species, and without their activity there would in turn be no species.
Thus through the activity of the elemental beings, under the impulse of the base volition of men, and through the anchoring of the threads springing forth from this volition, there also came into existence the so-called hell. The threads of the evil volition were anchored there, grew, blossomed and finally bore the corresponding fruit, which those human beings who produced the seed had to accept.

Therefore a consuming lustfulness has dominion in these nether regions, the lust for murder, for quarrelling and for all the aberrations of human passions, each with its corresponding place. However, everything springs forth from the same Law, in the fulfilment of which the little elemental beings also fashion the fairy-like beauty of the more Luminous Realms! —
Thus I shall let one picture after another arise from Creation until you receive a great and uniform survey, which will never allow you to waver upon your ways nor let you go astray, because you are then “knowing”. Whoever even then would still not wish to direct his path towards the Luminous Heights would fundamentally prove himself as absolutely depraved and only worthy to be cast out!


If you could explain,in particular, these two passages:

"In the first place your spiritual volition! Spiritual volition, however, is intuitive perception! The little elementals form it in fine gross matter exactly according to the volition that has issued from the spirit. They immediately take up the thread which springs forth from your volition and from your deed, and fashion at the end of the thread that form which corresponds exactly with this thread of will."

----it was my earlier understanding that the union of our intuitive perception and the Neutral Power forms in the ethereal only


"All the thought-forms also come about through a similar activity of the elementals. However, this work is again carried out by a different group and a different species of the elementals, which also develop a special plane in fine gross matter alongside the first."

----here I wanted to please inquire how our thoughts form planes in fine gross matter.


I will please have to ask for your patience for my questions as I am still trying to fathom the basics.

Thanks

@Justcool

This is for you from the chapter Thanks in Vol. 3

Nobody can conceal spiritual values; for as soon as it is not buried within man but still really alive, the spirit has quite a natural urge towards activity through Creation’s Law of Movement. It irresistibly presses towards the outside, and such a person will again find men to whom he can give something as recompense through his spiritual activity, so that he in turn may receive from them, if only through new stimulation or through questions of serious purport.

Thanks!!!

@Justcool,

Re: Temple of Solomon

Thanks for the detailed explanation. I had already been planning to ask you about the Ray of God associated with the Ark and you explained it beforehand.
I did want to ask one thing regarding the Light Power that the Creator sent and anchored with the Ark. During the time of Jesus, I would have expected a powerful upsurge/power manifestation from this Light especially at the moment of birth and especially when he physically entered the Temple precincts.


Qstn #2:

RE: Sojourn of the Will of God and the Son of God on earth and their Formed Works in the World of Matter

Both have Divine Unsubstantiate origins and as such have direct connection with the original undivded unsubstantiate power. While on earth in human form (a process of radiation), did they also use the gradation of power (contained within the original undivided Unsubstantiate Power that they had access to) that the human spirits have access to form works in the ethereal planes.

Thanks,

@Shinealight

Thanks for the info. Unfortunately, did not get your message....for some reason, no msg from nairaland ever makes it to my email.

@Justcool,

Cannot thank you enough as always.

@Justcool

Thanks so much for the pronto response, only added further to the pleasure of the 'rush".

Qstn:

Was the Temple of Solomon an earthly relica of the Grail Temple?


Qstn:

Apologies Justcool but I have to go back to page 1 of this thread regarding the relationship btw Generative Power and the neutral Living Spiritual Power that flows thru Creation and is used by human spirits via their spiritual intuition.

Does the onset of GP in a human spirit on earth mark the point at which it can now start to use the neutral Living Power in conjunction with its intuition to form ethereal forms/works?................or does GP mean/mark something else additionally or entirely separate....(the ability to communicate/work with radiations)

Essientially, I have not understood the interrelationship btw the two.


Secondly, once the spirit leaves the earthly body and is in the ethereal planes, does it still have access to the neutral Living Power and continue to form ethereal forms/works in the ethereal world that it is now already in?

I will have to request for and thank you for your patience in advance.

@Shinealight

Hello,

had please wanted to ask about the literature that contains the "Ethereal Briars" that you quoted from....is it a publication from the Grail Books that one can obtain?

Thanks,

Hello Justcool,

Thanks. There is a rush of excitement once I see a response from you............and the longer it is (with examples/illustrations) the better!


Qstn:

When our physical bodies are damaged, the astral and ethereal bodies remain the same as before. When "doubting Thomas" and the other disciples had their astral or ethereal eyes opened on the appearance of Jesus.....why were they able to see his injuries on his astral or ethereal body?



Qstn:

You had mentioned earlier that if one was interested, you could elucidate about the thief on the cross who went to paradise. Abd-ru-Shin does talk about the event in his Questions & Answers. However, a rogue coming to conviction and and understanding of Creation, recognition of Jesus......etc just on his cruxifixation does stretch the mind. Even the disciples could not fathom all the words of Jesus despite the few years they spent with him.
As an aside, the way the event is described in the Bible, it does come across as an arbitrary act.



Qstn from the lecture Faith in Vol. 2:

Divine Messages are received through the Word of God and also through His Creation. Everything bears witness to Him and to His Will. As soon as a man is able consciously to experience the entire process of genesis and existence[i][/i][color=#990000][/color], all his intuitions, his thoughts and his deeds will unite in joyful affirmation of God

Could you please explain the highlighted portion.

Thanks again Justcool, your explanations are very much held in regard and have speeded up my understanding.

Hello Shinealight,

Had please wanted to request if you could further elucidate on the Mountain of Salvation----for the benefit of those who are not Cross-bearers and/or do not have access to a Grail Circle. I can infer that it refers to a mountain at the Vomperberg settlement.

Thanks

@speer

Please bear with me. I will treat your questions as soon as time permits me.

Thanks and remain blessed


Thanks so very much for the explanations above in response to shinealight.

Much earlier, I had asked if an ascending spirit passes through the animistic sphere and found the answer in the chapter titled Spirit-germs in Vol. III.

Peace

This inquiry is from the Message------The First Step in Vol. I

If you could but once see how the immutable Justice of God’s All-Holy Will is always fulfilled in the self-acting Laws of this Creation for every single thought you harbor, you would strive with all your might to attain purity in your thinking!

Only then will you have become such human beings as the Creator in His Work will mercifully guide to the knowledge that bestows eternal life upon them, allowing them to become helpers in Creation worthy to receive the high blessings destined for the human spirit; so that these may be joyfully and gratefully transformed and passed on to those creatures who are only able to absorb them through such a transformation by man, and who today, through the decline of the human spirit, remain wantonly cut off from them, after it had already been possible for them to come into existence in times of a better and more purely swinging humanity[i][/i].

Had pls wanted to ask about the creatures mentioned above and about the transformed radiations that they depend on from human spirits . I presume that they are animistic beings

Thanks Justcool.

Next inquiry is from Scripture (Exodus);

So Moses chiseled out two stone tablets like the first ones and went up Mount Sinai early in the morning, as the Lord had commanded him; and he carried the two stone tablets in his hands. 5 Then the Lord came down in the cloud and stood there with him and proclaimed his name, the Lord. 6 And he passed in front of Moses, proclaiming, “The Lord, the Lord, the compassionate and gracious God, slow to anger, abounding in love and faithfulness, 7 maintaining love to thousands, and forgiving wickedness, rebellion and sin. Yet he does not leave the guilty unpunished; he punishes the children and their children for the sin of the parents to the third and fourth generation.”
[i][/i]


I cannot quite figure out the last sentence in the context of the Message..........obviously to do with reciprocal action and homogeneous species.

No worries at all Justcool, your responses are very much appreciated. Take your time and convenience.

Have a zesty week.........

Welcome back Justcool..................happy to have our "Guru" around again!!

Did you perchance pass by Benin during your stay in the Vaterland?

How "depthfull" are the Movement's activities?

Very much look forward to your sharing of your experiences.


My inquiry relates to this from the Message:



"Every false helper, however, will have to undergo bitter experiences! His ascent in the beyond can only begin when the very last of all those whom he has held up or even led astray by spiritual trifling has come to recognition. As long as his books and writings continue to influence men on earth, he will be held fast in the next world, [b]even if in the meantime he has come to a better understanding there[/b]."

If such a spirit comes to a higher consciousness in the ethereal world, it will automatically cast off the old ethereal threads and move to a higher plane, why then does the above state that it will be held fast (until the very last astray soul is corrected) even after it has come to a better understanding?

Thanks Justcool,

Have a joyous, blessed and reaffirming trip and an enlightening stay.

Peace and action!!!

Hello Justcool,

Merci beaucoup as always. Very grateful for your sharing. I am still in the process of re-reading all the chapters you listed.

I did have a question about this statement:

"but Imanuel’s origin permits that He can enter the Divine substantial sphere, for a while, even with His Primordial spiritual body."

How could this body exist/survive in the Divine Substantiate region?


Secondly, Lucifer introduced a wrong principle to weed out what he considers weak spirits. If this is the only motive, why his violent reaction to the coming of Imanuel for a correction?
It's already very surprising that a Being from his origin can follow/introduce paths not in accordance with Divine Will but to persist with it and fight against correction whilst having no other base motive is something I have not been able to fathom.

Once again, much obliged for your time.

Hello all, In Vol. 1 (Lecture: Ascent) the ffg is stated:

"You should give to your neighbor with your being, your nature! Not necessarily with money and goods. For then those without means would be excluded from the possibility of giving."

Had please wanted to ask for the all-encompassing meaning/explanation of the above....."with your being, your nature!"

Thanks and have an enriching week.

Wow, prompt response!!! Thanks.

Is the immense accelleration of technical abilities in the last 150 years of any significance in World Happenings?


WRT the discussion on Lucifer, had wanted to ask: was/is there no one to replace him (at the same level)in the Divine Sphere and so carry out his tasks as originally intended.............thereby mitigating the consequences of his fall somewhat? Pardon me for the inquiry if you find it childish.

Much obliged as always.