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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Spy360(m): 11:37am On Jan 31, 2017
Funlordmania:
grin

"Even though I owe him a lot in my career, It would be remiss for me not to point out that Arsene tends to lack class when under immense pressure...." Thierry' igwe' Henry!
Lie lie boy. You too lie jawe. Which kind unrepentant liar you be? So tey lies don force your mouth bend like Ekaette yansh. Repent and be baptised you silly liar. All liars shall go to.....?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Spy360(m): 6:53am On Jan 31, 2017
Lana1:
Rubbish! Who send class?? That's why ur classy club has been irrelevant for the last 12 years!!
Did I mention my club? I only said money can't buy class and you guys went into a self servicing orgy. Shows you guys lack class.

Kwantinu!
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Spy360(m): 9:36pm On Jan 30, 2017
Why FA give us Sutton? What a waste. sad
Now we have to buy their coffins too... cheesy
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Spy360(m): 9:34pm On Jan 30, 2017
ChristineC:
Coming from the fan of a team who only managed one solitary attempt (cross and nod) in the 90th minute against Manchester United
...and SCORED.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Spy360(m): 9:13pm On Jan 30, 2017
Funlordjnr:
Sorry...I can't stand by unnecessary mediocrity! That is the duty of loyal arsenal, chelsea, liverpool or city fans!

I'm used to class! Martial should get used to class too!
Money can't buy class...

#COYG
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Nairaland Fantasy Premier League 2016/2017 by Spy360(m): 9:10pm On Jan 30, 2017
Seems this thing is interesting. cheesy
Somebody explain FPL to me abeg. I for like join.
Cc sod09, mukina2, raumdeuter,
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Spy360(m): 9:01pm On Jan 30, 2017
sod09:
se dis one sef rating welbz ahead of giroud
because he scored two goals against a shitty defence and an inexperienced gk.
d first goal, d chip was way too much nd d second he cant score dat against a more organized team.. welbz has positioning nd pace but he's more wasteful dan Giroud, out of 20 welbz will score just 3.im only happy we have options at cf co im tired of seeing sanchez there
Welbeck has a better all round skill set than Giroud. He can hold up play with back to goal just as Giroud but he also has pace and footwork. Giroud has arial threat and better positioning.

I prefer Welbz because with Giroud we can only play 4-5-1, with Welbzx we can switch from 4-5-1 to 4-3-3 where all front three can roam as we did when Sanchez was playing 9.

With pacy forwards we play more direct forward passes and through balls than those sideways nonsense when we have one stricker upfront. Also Ozil can make runs from deep, coming into dangerous scoring positions thereby increasing our goal threat.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Spy360(m): 6:35am On Jan 30, 2017
Fkhalifa:
This is what I like to see all game of the season, We used all our pacy and fast footed players today...
I believe a frontline of Walcott, welbeck, Sanchez and Lucas with ox either from middle or wing will cause problems for defences..
We were attacking and so direct the entire game...

Even after 3goals, we looked like we will score more

Only if Wenger can understand that Ramsey, ozil Giroud slows all a lot.

I think Giroud should stick to 75/80 mint super sub and get some rare starts.. Else we will go back to our boring possession pass me I pass you, No shot on or off target football.

Let's see if he will learn against Watford.
Sanchez, Walcott and Welbeck are ahead of Giroud on pecking order. You can't bench Ozil, he is our most intelligent player and by the way he is not slow. Infact he has the same work rate as Sanchez.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Spy360(m): 7:44am On Jan 29, 2017
Roland17:
Remember my earlier post about Kelechi's future with city after the arrival of Jesus? Well, i hope you are aware he did not even make the bench against Crystal Palace in the FA Cup win.

Except Pep is leaving at the end of the season, or an injury plague hits City's forward line, Kelechi would rot playing for the reserves or seldom bench appearances.
Normally when new player arrives especially with so much fanfare, you expect him to get the nod.

Notwithstanding, Kelechi should try other options if staying would limit him. We do not want to have another 'had been'.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Spy360(m): 11:26pm On Jan 28, 2017
kokaneprodigy:
how abt the 4-3-3 flat formation we utilised today
Was it flat? I'll need to see some replays to be sure.

But definitely the front 3 was similar to what we had at start of season, add Sanchez and it could get even better.

Sanchez .. Welbeck .. Walcott
......................... Ozil ........................

With the front 3 roaming... I can only smile. smiley
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Spy360(m): 11:19pm On Jan 28, 2017
sod09:
his better in dat position dan ramsey, if u watched d game against ludo dat was d game cozza got injured... He replaced him dat day nd played it well also against city he played same position
Ox is hugely talented with pace and skill. But he is inconsistent and has a school boy brain. Hope that he proves me wrong because I'll love to see him play there against Watford.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Spy360(m): 8:23pm On Jan 28, 2017
kokaneprodigy:
Spy360 hope u are loving this, we don't have to wait till final minute to get scrappy win, we are pressing from the start, 2 goals already just like we did earlier in the season, no Ramsey no Giroud.
Welbeck should be allowed a run of games as the CF. He has the pace of Sanchez and the hold up of Giroud- 2in1.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Spy360(m): 4:16pm On Jan 28, 2017
raumdeuter:
Go and talk to your friend spy360

Where is Bilic now, Ranieiri nko. He thinks those coaches who have remained at the top since na play dem take reach there?
So from what you are saying Pep is no different from them Billic and Raniery?
Satellite TV TechnologyRe: Free To Air Satellite Tv General Thread by Spy360(m): 7:56am On Jan 28, 2017
eedristo:
good morning ppl pls on which satellite can I get peace TV.
You don't need peace tv to have peace. You need Jesus, the Prince of Peace.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Spy360(m): 6:18am On Jan 28, 2017
Team News

Walcott - back.
Per - back.
Debuchy - back.
Xhaka - suspended.
Santi - out.

We have close to a full squad approaching the end of the season. Hope this freshness fetch up something.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Spy360(m): 12:05am On Jan 28, 2017
These FA people are not bornagain. After person apologise finish dem still knack am maximum ban.
























Mtchew! Like say the thing go even affect us.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Spy360(m): 1:30pm On Jan 26, 2017
raumdeuter:
spy360

How far with all your highly rated coaches.

Bilic you were singing about last year is now mid table, Ranieiri is 15th in the table even Klopp has run into a rough patch and won just one game in January

So these are the better coaches abi?
Why do you think Raniery won FIFA coach of the year?

They achieved success managing small teams with meagre resources and talent.

They won our regards ahead of Pep, who this season is proving that he can't win without big dominant teams. Worst still, when faced with equally dominant sides, he flounders.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Spy360(m): 1:19pm On Jan 26, 2017
afrodoc2:
A flat 4-4-2 does not have a CAM. Leicester, Diego Simeone's Atletico most of the time, Arrigo Sacchi's Milan.

A diamond 4-4-2 has a DM, 2CMs and a CAM.

That was what Elrony was trying to teach people here.
Elrony instead claimed that there is no CAM in a 433.

I was the one who pointed out that Leicester's 442 was without a CAM but Ancelloti's diamond has CAM.

Give praise to whom praise is due.

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Spy360(m): 12:21pm On Jan 25, 2017
elrony:
What do you understand by a 10 sef? Stop confusing yourself thinking we play two CAMs, we don't!

It's both RCM and LCM wink
I need to ask you the same question because I don't get what the 'C' in your RCM and LCM means.

Oh! I see your one eye... cheesy
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Spy360(m): 8:33am On Jan 25, 2017
elrony:
From all you've seen?... e clear say na only 5 man U matches you don watch this season grin cheesy

Nwanna, read the bolded and understand the sentence you made reference to na.

Sorry jare, Mou's 4-3-3, is built with Carrick as the pivot,Pogba and Herrera as RCM and LCM.
No "10". That's been our best and most used formation so far. (I guess you can call it a 4-1-2-3 if you want )
Forget Man United's formation for now. Let me assume the 4-1-2-3 formation you gave. Didn't you notice you play a double 10?

Back to Man United, that is a highly attacking formation you gave. And Mou will never push men forward like that. Every body that follows Mou know this basic fact.

If you need a formation where a 10 is not used, it is Leicester's 442 last season. That was a counter attacking formation, which had failed in times past but was ressurected by Raniery. But even in that, one of the strikers drops back. In Leicester it was Okazaki.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Spy360(m): 8:24am On Jan 25, 2017
eph12:
A. Mourinho does not even have a first eleven yet even when everyone is fully fit.

B. I believe the argument is about our first 3-5 matches or so when Fellaini and Hererra were pairing Pogba in a two man midfield.
First of all, Mou NEVER plays a two man midfield. Never.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Spy360(m): 6:45am On Jan 25, 2017
eph12:
It was even obvious Fellaini and Pogba were not occupying same position if you watch the match. Pogba was always ahead of him and someone says they were both DM. What kind of DM is that?
I doubt if you even know your first eleven not to talk of their positions. Mtchew!
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Spy360(m): 6:38am On Jan 25, 2017
elrony:
Ogbeni, the GK position has no variation, abi you don see DGK and AGK before cheesy
"Sweeper keeper" as you call it is rather a player attribute or style not a GK position e.g as found in Neuer, "comedy keeper" is the same too e.g Bravo grin

when you deploy a 4-4-2 not a variant as in "diamond" you'd be fielding at least two CMs and zero 10.

Ogbeni in a 4-3-3, you are primarily playing a DM and two CMs (RCM and LCM) no CAM.

The formation you depicted below is 4-2-1-3 a variation, not 4-3-3 itself.

Hope you understand?
On GK, the sweeper in the team is usually a player in the defence line- I remember Lothar Mathaus (maybe you were not born then cheesy) but now some managers like Pep add that role to the GK job. It's like comparing an orthodox FB with a modern WB.

I can ignore your case on GK but not on the 10. The 10 is the chance creator, unless you pattern you team to just defend. But from all I have seen United under Mou, there have always been a 10. He started with Rooney, then Mata on few occasions, and Pogba recently.

In a 442 diamond, what do you mean by 2 CMs without a 10?

Ancelotti is the godfather of diamond formations, you just have to look at all his teams. Wo do you think is at the tip of the diamond?

Currently he plays a 433 which easily transits to a 4231, using Thiago as his 10 in both situations.

Lastly, a 4213 is a 433 unless you plan to park bus. This couldn't have been United's formation...

............................. De Gea .........................
Valencia ... Jones .. Rojo .. Darmian
Carrick .............. Pogba .......... Herrera
Mkhi .................... Ibra ............. Martial

Hope you too understand?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Spy360(m): 5:58am On Jan 25, 2017
Roland17:
If we go by your metrics of assumption, then it is fair to say Arsenal has T. Henry and P. Viera ( Both already have coaching badges)
Vieira yes, Henry? The way he does his punditing, I am not sure if he can handle management.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Spy360(m): 8:06pm On Jan 24, 2017
elrony:
Bro, in a 4-3-3 which Mou deploys most times there is no 10 for Pogba to man,except occasionally when he goes with a 4-2-3-1.

Deep Lying Playmaker, Sweeper keeper, are not positions per se buh rather playing attributes or styles of either a DM,CM and GK respectively.

Formations have become dynamic that you can have 2 Players at the base of a team's midfield in the pre match lineup as DMs, buh in reality only one functions as the DM while the other is a CM (in this case a b2b ).
I guess that was what eph12 was tryna explain to KokaneNobody.

Same way you have Poachers in attack , Sweepers, instigators in Defence ,midfield dynamos,maestros and conductors in MF.
I agree with most of what you mentioned. But not all...

Sweeper keeper is a variation of the GK position. Just as wingback is a variation of the fullback position. That's the difference between Hart and Bravo.

Central midfield is split into attacking and defensive.

When teams played 4-4-2, they employ just one CDM and one CAM. Current formations (4-3-3 and 4-5-1) employ either two CDM or two CAM. In most cases it is the former where one of the CDM is the runner or box to box as some prefer to call it.

So invariably, a box to box is still a DM per se. While the holding DM waits to break up play, the box to box guy hassles the opponent, some times chasing the ball to the GK.

As for Pogba, I have seen him play all CM positions for United. Recently, he has been deployed more as a CAM referred to as a 10. Typical as Ramsey, he plays holding DM or box DM, he can even play as an AM as he does for Wales.

So there is a 10 in a 4-3-3.

............................. De Gea .........................
Valencia ... Jones .. Rojo .. Darmian
.................. Carrick .. Herrera .................
............................ Pogba ...........................
Mkhi .................... Ibra ............. Martial
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Spy360(m): 11:35am On Jan 24, 2017
In a few years time,
Rooney would be coach of Man United.
Gerrard, coach of Liverpool.
Lampard, coach of Chelsea.
Who would be coach of Arsenal?
Satellite TV TechnologyRe: Free To Air Satellite Tv General Thread by Spy360(m): 11:29am On Jan 24, 2017
Lov4sat:
I also use 90cm dish I have tried all the method posted here (tilt your dish up by 1inch yet no way, skew your LNB to 2 oclock I did this all through yester-night when I get home still no way) which magic others that are receiving it used to track this bard 26 E I don't know I am getting 28.E quite well but 26.E is still a no no thing for me PLEASE MAKE SOMEONE US OOO (Especially those of us in Rivers State that have tracked this birds.
It is difficult with small dish for those in the South.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Spy360(m): 11:21am On Jan 24, 2017
sod09:
dat jus sum up aw stupid nd dull he's A manager that cant teach his players aw to survive 10men
You are wrong. Again!
Arsenal is the ONLY club with more wins than losses when down to 10 men.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Spy360(m): 7:20am On Jan 24, 2017
elrony:
He plays as a RCM or LCM alongside Herrera,with Carrick as the pivot; there's no 10 in a 4-3-3 bro.

Interchanging positions during play doesn't mean he plays 10.
A 10 is a central attacking midfielder.

From what I see United play, Pogba plays as a 10 most times.

For example, I saw the game against Liverpool, Pogba started as the CAM. When Rooney came in, he dropped into CDM to pair with Herrera.

Sometimes, a manager may even play a double 10.

Midfield Positions:

Central Defensive- holding, box to box.

Central Attacking- playmaker

Wing Attacking- wingers of which there are different types nowadays.

Most recently we now have Deep Lying Playmakers as made popular by Pirlo.

Football is evolving and new formations and positions are introduced. Some are even confusing and a mixture. For example, Wingbacks and Sweeper Keepers (popularised by Neuer).

So just keep yourself abreast and follow the trend.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Offical Bayern Munich Fan Thread: 6x Champions Of Europe by Spy360(m): 6:52pm On Jan 23, 2017
airmark:
Nothing wrong with me, but with your a40. Feeding peeps with lies here and would never stop. I know a responsible lady could change him for good. Since you are close to him, may be you can talk sense to his empty skull.
Nwoke mema ari, e lieya nwanyi.

When a full grown man keeps acting childishly, get a woman for him.

cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Offical Bayern Munich Fan Thread: 6x Champions Of Europe by Spy360(m): 6:48pm On Jan 23, 2017
SIRcumalot:
this would be just fine if Muller starts in place of lewadonski or Raul for front,you just let him play himself into scoring form again.
now that the goals aren't coming can you tell us why we should crowbar him into the first team when Munich has better options?
It largely depends on the Gaffer.

Ancelotti plays a 4-5-1 diamond midfield with speedy wingers who drifts infield.

This style cannot work for Muller.

Muller suits a 4-3-3 where the front 3 are allowed to roam.

This is Pep's style.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Spy360(m): 6:13pm On Jan 23, 2017
elrony:
In Mou's 4-3-3, which has been our most played formation , Pogba doesn't play as a DM nor a 10.

All this ppl sef ... angry
So what does he playhuh

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