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Foreign AffairsRe: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Stargate254: 6:44pm On Aug 31, 2022
Exnavyboy62:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYbiuosQKPI

So Africa has become the girl that everybody doesn't want to hang out with but when China shows interest in her then the whole world wants to shoot their shot. They never remembered Africa in the 70s or 80s or 90s or even the the first decade of the 2000s, it is just now they know we exist, ARRANT NONSENSE.
That might be true for the west. But for Japan, I guess it depends on the country.. In Kenya Japan has been the biggest billateral lender since independence,and they have been consistent with no scandals. They were only overtaken by China back in 2013 and that was as a result of one single project (a railway project) But it as the years go by and as China is slowing down on its investments, Japan is set to take that position once more.
Foreign AffairsRe: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Stargate254: 6:07pm On Aug 25, 2022
kabe1:
Documentary with English subtitles from the battle of Mariupol.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KQVPmEN73w
I'm not an animal person but the slightly burnt cat got to me man!
Foreign AffairsRe: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Stargate254: 9:44am On Aug 17, 2022
Lurker4Long:
Has the geriatric conceded yet? 77 and wanting to lead Kenya in 2022!
He is heading to the supreme court to dispute the results!
I voted for him but dude needs to let it go and rest in peace, 5 times he has lost, he didn't even mentor anyone to take over his idealogies, he is leaving his people orphans.

Anyone with time and a calculator can literally count the votes by themselves, like seriously, you can download all the forms and start counting... 5,000 observers did a parralel count at the constituency level using the physical forms and they got their results 3 days b4 official announcement, Reuters International did their own count using the forms uploaded on the online portal. A citizen led open source transparency group did an online tally using excel.... And although their numbers were slightly different, the % votes for each candidate was similar to the elections body's IEBC final anoucement !!!! Ruto won fare and square, What the chairman of IEBC did last minute was out of order indeed and only him knows why he did that, but that can't negate the will of the people who have spoken, the numbers are there to see. Anyone arguing is arguing about technicalities on how the final results were anounced, but not the numbers. I'm not seeing anyone saying, 'oh, look here this 1 was supposed to have three zeroes after it, they made a mistake in adding here and here'
Foreign AffairsRe: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Stargate254: 9:52am On Aug 15, 2022
Kenya scored above the 2030 global target of 90% in aviation security system - Audited by ICAO

Foreign AffairsRe: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Stargate254: 12:57am On Aug 14, 2022
NTSA:
@ Kikuyu 1 , Stargate 254 and baliv 254... has any of you noted the similarities between Israeli (EMTAN MZ-4 )and the Kenyan CMZ 4 ?. .. basically ( Chalbi-MZ4)
All that matters to me is that we produce it locally and we dont need anyones license... infact, I hope all the metal alloys used to manufacture are imported from African countries via road transport.
Foreign AffairsRe: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Stargate254: 12:45pm On Jul 20, 2022
This Maritime cooperation between Kenya and Seychelles was further cemented by the arrival of Kenya Navy Ship Jasiri on the Seychelles shores. The two presidents had lunch aboard the ship together with the commander of Kenya Navy.

The Commander Kenya Navy Major General Jimson Mutai hosted H.E Hon Uhuru Kenyatta President of the Republic of Kenya and Commander- in -Chief of the Defence Forces and the President of the Republic of Seychelles H.E Hon Wavel Ramkalawan to a luncheon onboard Kenya Navy Ship (KNS) JASIRI on 18 July 2022.

The KNS Jasiri was flagged off on 12 July 2022 at home Port, KNB Mtongwe and arrived at Port Victoria, Seychelles on 16 July 2022 to be part of the Bilateral engagement witnessed by H.E the President of Kenya and his counter part H.E the President of Republic of Seychelles during the 3 day state visit to the republic of Seychelles.

The ship was commanded by Lt Col Collins Owino.

Foreign AffairsRe: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Stargate254: 12:30pm On Jul 20, 2022
Looks like Kenya is cementing her position as a relevant player in the maritime area on the East African Seaboard, don know if its because of the Somalia/Kenya maritime dispute or its because of its ambitions to start exploring her blue economy potential. Kenya's President is currently on a state visit to the island nation of Seychelles


President Uhuru Kenyatta on Monday evening attended a state banquet hosted in his honour by President Wavel Ramkalawan of Seychelles.
At the banquet also attended by high-ranking Government officials and diplomats, President Kenyatta and his host reaffirmed the commitment of the two countries in consolidating the ongoing efforts to secure the Indian Ocean waters through the Contact Group on Piracy off the Coast of Somalia (CGPCS).
They expressed confidence that their collaboration will enable the two nations to secure the maritime domain.
Also signed was Memoranda of Understanding (MOUs) for cooperation on peace, security and law enforcement at sea as well as maritime affairs.
Addressing the press after witnessing the signing of the agreements, President Kenyatta said he has resolved with his host President Ramkalawan to further cooperate on, among other areas, matters of peace and security especially on marine security.
Some background info worthy of note: Kenya Applied to UN to extend her Exclusive Economic Zone by a further 150nm - from the normal 200 nautical miles from land to 350 Nautical miles

Pic 1: If you look at the position of Seychelles on the map, then it becomes relevant that for this to work, Kenya will need Seychelles cooperation cause this extended zone gets very close to its territory.

pic 2 & 3: Shows the Extended EEZ

Pic 3: Kenya's president arriving in Seychelles

Foreign AffairsRe: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Stargate254: 12:08pm On Jul 20, 2022
NTSA:
Left foot, right foot repeat.
Notice the trigger discipline
Foreign AffairsRe: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Stargate254: 5:36pm On Jul 13, 2022
kabe1:
Similar vehicles from around the world.

Norway
Kenyas modest version cheesy

Foreign AffairsRe: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Stargate254:
Kenya president arriving at World Rally Championship Finals escorted by 2 helos



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gH5_ky-TukQ


bonus:
some highlights from the WRC


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Sudb6Z97O8
Foreign AffairsRe: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Stargate254: 5:54pm On Jun 21, 2022
GeneralFarouq:
https://www.quora.com/What-about-the-2022-Russia-Ukraine-war-has-defied-expectations-and-conventional-wisdom-about-warfare

Look for this particular author., it a fun argument
Ukrainian TB-2 records itself being shot down by Russian SAM

The biggest victims of these revelations is the attack helicopter. We have always known them to be particularly vulnerable, but this war has shown just how vulnerable. Russians have lost a dozen or more Ka-52s, one of the most advanced attack helicopters in the world. These machines rely only flying close to treetop level to avoid detection, but this makes them vulnerable to MANPADs thanks to their speed and noise.

This is the cockpit footage of the Ka-52 that was shot down on day one of the war.

If there’s any class of equipment that this war has shown to be obsolete, it would be the attack helicopter. Its role is just better served by UAVs. The role of low altitude close air support is just too hazardous to be performed by human pilots.
Limitations on close air support means that traditional land-based artillery is still king of the battlefield. The war in the Donbas has devolved into a prolonged artillery duel, one that the Russians are winning handily thanks to their vast arsenal of tube and rocket artillery, nearly all of which is from the Soviet era.
The overarching lesson of this war is that fancy weapons don’t mean much if the other side also has them. Eventually, you will be fighting a war of attrition, one where quantity, and not quality, is the deciding factor.
True but we also have to note that circumstances are different in every war..

In this case it was basically Russia against Nato weaponry in Ukraine... We are talking about a Ukraine that is able to resupply and replenish weaponry every month.
If this was Nato against Ukraine, The US would have detroyed all air defences and air assets of the Ukraine on week one b4 enforcing a no fly zone over Ukraine airspace thereby mainitaining complete air dominace, then they would have put a blockade on Ukraine territory against getting any kind of military help from outside. And within a month Ukraine would have run out of military supplies, and any kind of replenishment within the territory would have been intercepted and destroyed by fighter jets in a moments notice...
If it had happened in Nato sytle fashion like this, the artlicles would be writing a different story and telling us that mordern conventional wars are determined by air superiority and not artlillery or tanks.
Foreign AffairsRe: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Stargate254: 7:41am On Jun 21, 2022
MoD sponsored Inaugural Kenya Space Expo



Hon. Wamalwa exuded confidence that the expo had, to a great extent, achieved its intended objectives and had placed Kenya on the right trajectory to achieve the theme of “Leveraging Space Capabilities for National Development”.

He lauded the partnership between KSA and the South African National Space Agency (SANSA) in developing the Square Kilometre Array (SKA) project in an international effort to build the world’s largest radio astronomy observatory

Foreign AffairsRe: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Stargate254: 12:09pm On Jun 19, 2022
Lurker4Long:
How does the process work in Kenya currently?
Its a nightmare process that takes approx 3 months...
First you have to go to your nearest police station where you live and make a formal request. And of course they are going to give you a hard time b4 they hand you the request form.
Then you have to get certified by a govt psychiatrist that you are not delusional or suicidal.
Then you have go to Nairobi for an interview with the licensing board where you will also give your bank statement, Tax returns and police clearance certificate certifying you are not a suspect or hv been convicted b4. You'll also have to write a letter explaining why you want to own a firearm.
After passing all these hurdles, they then take your finger prints and give you a smart card....


This process is not always straight forward and transparent.... You could go for months waiting for your licence...

Anyway, with Chalbi Industries promoting this competition and encouraging more civies to join, here is to hoping the process will become simpler and staright forward.

Foreign AffairsRe: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Stargate254: 3:38pm On Jun 18, 2022
Sleuth2:
I don't know what happened to my other profile @NTSA. seems it has been locked and some of my posts deleted had to create a new one.
Still waiting for the day were after being cleared to carry, I can just walk into a gun shop in the city and walk away with a handgun just like that!
Foreign AffairsRe: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Stargate254: 5:47pm On Jun 09, 2022
MAN1960:
I don't understand why a president will be using such a military plane
What don't you understand?
This plane is probably (most definitely) better equiped and capable in performance manuverability , it has more modern defense countermeasures than the official presidential jet. This is a tactical plane, which is probably what the presidential security were going for.
Foreign AffairsRe: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Stargate254: 10:28am On Jun 07, 2022
Intriguing subtext , KDF Chief met with Rwanda's CDF 4 days before travelling to DRC to to meet other regional CDFs and conclude modalities of establishing a regional force to fight rebels in DRC

Foreign AffairsRe: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Stargate254: 4:39pm On Jun 05, 2022
kabe1:
33 T-72 Tanks, that's not bad. The Tank numbers begin to look respectable when you add the Vickers MBTs in KDF service.

It seems Al-Shabaab is now a spent Force, lacking in capabilities to conduct operations in any significant scale?

Are there any news on military equipment procurement from Kenya? Apart from the C-27J aircrafts I don't think we've seen any other significant purchases.
Huh, the amount of tank turrets lying besides highways in Ukrain made me think our numbers are ridiculous even if we had 500 still wouldn't be enough... Or maybe we should invest more on ATGMs?

Yes alshabaab is definitely a spent force, back then their propaganda videos were actually scary, they almost looked like a conventional army without tanks or an Airforce or a navy. They numbered between 16k to 20k... Now estimates put them btn 6k to 10k after replanishing their numbers with new recruits who grow scanty everyday and have less training.. Infact the only thing that has kept them going was the influx of money and bomb experts from m.east who introduced new ways of making cheaper but more powerful IEDs including VBIEDs, this is what has been keeping them afloat, the IEDs do maximum damage with minimum force, then they spen the rest of the time studying and planning their next one time big large scale attacks to remind everyone they are 'still powerful'. We have reached a point I don't even think the rest of alshabaab needs an army to defeat them, AMISOM has won the ideological war, we don't need to fight them anymore, what we need to do is build roads, factories, hospitals and train their civil servants and civilian police to run local administration... Once people start getting paying jobs, youths would see alshabaab as the ones holding them back and not their saviours.


On military procurement, apart from the At-802u light attack aircraft, there isn't any major purchase that's on my radar.. I think Kenya put a break on major purchases because of the huge loans we took for the country's infrastructure, there just isn't any room to justify that kind of spending for the military, parliament would never aprove. Instead the military has been concentrating on low hanging fruits like enhancing local manufacturing for uniforms, boots, ammunition, rifles, military rations, improving training programs.. Bettering Soldier personal protection (it's very rare to see a soldier on the frontline without body armour today, it used to be be common occurrence in the past) We have also seen significant investment in soldier welfare systems... like housing, family support through education and medical cover for dependants , life insurance for soldiers KIA etc
https://www.pd.co.ke/news/bill-to-cushion-military-veterans-after-service-114610/
Foreign AffairsRe: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Stargate254:
Tinfoil:
The Kenyan military is one of the most corrupt in the world. It starts from the top. That's why it's budget is not made public. During the Westgate siege the KDF soldiers were caught on video stealing, in Somalia they were involved in the illegal charcoal trade,.....


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOci1zCC73c
It's always good to get context. Where were you back then? Did you have this belief all along and you didn't want to hear anything else that didn't support your narrative?

There was a conference in which the Chief of Defence Forces explained everything.. And b4 you laugh me off for believing the General, He did admit that some soldiers looted! I will come back to this at the end.

Two things happened:

1: The commanding officer on the ground gave permission to the soldiers to help themselves to water and food from the supermarket stored since the whole ordeal took days to end and they had rushed in to the scene without such supplies... So what might appear as looting on camera is actually just easily explainable

Gen Karangi has previously said that soldiers had only taken water because they were thirsty but on Tuesday, he said two soldiers had been sacked after being found with items such mobile phones and cameras stolen from the shopping centre.

Army spokesman Col Cyrus Oguna said a local commander had given the soldiers the go-ahead to take snacks from the supermarket.

Gen Karangi added: "There might have been poor judgement on the part of the commander, which is an issue we are dealing with."
Here is a video of the CDF admitting to some soldiers looting and that 2 soldiers had already been courtmartialed and jailed while a third was under investigation together with her wife.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=QFLBjRv1FRw

Kenya's military has jailed two soldiers found guilty of looting during last month's Nairobi mall siege.

Kenyan Defence Force (KDF) chief Julius Karangi announced the military action against the members of a special combat unit in a rare press conference called by the country's security chiefs.

"Discipline is our core driving point and we are not playing with this issue. That is why we have taken action on these soldiers," General Karangi said, adding that the guilty men had stolen mobile phones and cameras.

He also announced that a third soldier is facing a court martial after being found in possession of a mobile phone that was suspected of being stolen.

However, General Karangi rejected reports of systematic, large-scale looting by KDF troops, showing video at the press conference which he claimed countered such arguments.
2: After the fire broke out, Orders from above came in that all cash from Banks, Forex, Tellers had to be secured from all safes so as not to be destroyed by fire... So once, again, what might appear as looting on camera could be something else... Eventually KDF gave back $3 million dollers it had secured from the mall.

The Kenya Defence Forces yesterday confirmed that it took money for safe keeping from businesses at the Westgate Mall.

Military spokesman Emmanuel Chirchir tweeted that KDF soldiers took over Sh300 million and other items from banks, forex bureaus, a casino and Nakumatt supermarket.

“Over 300million (was) repatriated from the banks, forex and casino at the Westgate,” Chirchir said on Twitter.
https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2013-10-05-soldiers-repatriated-sh300m-from-westgate-major-chirchir/



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If KDF was as corrupt as you want us to believe, and that the corruption started from the top. The CDF would have never had the courage to admit live on TV about the looting. He would have never had the will to clean up the bad apples by cortmarialling them, instead he would have denied the truth and taken it to his grave. He would have been afraid that if he took action against 3 elite soldiers for indescipline yet he was also corrupt, he would have risked the rest of the soldiers from the same unit leaking 'the truth' about what really goes on behind closed doors in the barracks.

So when @NTSA says "The kenyan military leadership Wants to maintain high standards of discipline within the service." It's the truth cause we have seen time and time again that when mistakes happen within KDF, they take punitive actions to correct them and make sure they serve as a lesson to others, That's how you know that the vision is to become a more professional, capable disciplined force. In the case of Westgate, mistakes happened and punitive action was taken regardless of rank,skills and the embarrassment it caused

BTW: A little secret I may let you in on. While a detailed budget for KDF is secret. The Auditor General gets full access as per the law. If you wanna know about corruption in the military, read the AG's report..
Foreign AffairsRe: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Stargate254:
kabe1:
I knew there was a story like this.

How many Tanks in total, I read 33 units, any actual known figures?
65 T-72 tanks (give or take) had already been delivered to South Sudan b4 this highjacking incident. I believe the highjacked ship was the final shipment. It included 33 tanks, and 7 Multiple Rocket Launchers
They were all transported via the old rail to Nairobi (Kahawa Barracks) Satellite imagery showed they stayed there for a while and were pictured being used in training exercises.

While the heavy T-72 tanks did stay, I have never been able to spot the MRL systems evrrr since they were pictured being offloaded in Mombasa port... If we had them we would have surely used them in Somalia especially during the initial Operation Linda Nchi campaign when Alshabaab was fighting like a conventional army (they had uniforms, some APCs, Toyota technicals mounted with anti aircraft guns and moved in formation.. etc) a MRL would have been perfect hellfire for them.. So the lack of evidence points to a scenario where the MRLs which were part of the cargo from the highjacked ship still made their way to S.Sudan

Foreign AffairsRe: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Stargate254:
NTSA:
Interesting I didn't know we /CIA secretly trained SPLM on how to "use them"
A few exerpts from different sources

“South Sudan is assembling an armour fleet, preparing for any eventuality in its enduring dispute with Khartoum,” reported the latest edition of trade journal Jane’s Defence Weekly.

“In total, military and diplomatic sources confirmed to Jane’s, 100 MBTs (main battle tanks) were ordered by South Sudan.”

The journal published satellite images it said showing an SPLA compound northeast of the south’s capital Juba in March containing tanks covered with camouflage or “wedged into the vegetation around the compound”.

It said 12 new covered vehicles were photographed in May, each the same shape as a Ukrainian T-72 battle tank. The satellite images also showed fresh track marks leading from Juba airport to the compound “indicating that these vehicles were airlifted to Sudan, probably in early May, and driven to the SPLA facility,” said Jane’s.

It added it had not been able to prove the vehicles pictured near Juba in May were the same T-72 tanks found on a Ukrainian ship hijacked by Somali pirates in September last year.

At the time, diplomats, the U.S. navy and the pirates said they believed its cargo of tanks had been heading to south Sudan via Kenya. Both South Sudan and Kenya denied the claims.

The T-72 tanks were transported to Kenya in February, after a ransom was paid. Jane’s said the Kenyan army had promised to show reporters the tanks were still there, but had so far not followed through on the offer.

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The SPLA on Wednesday told Reuters it did order some T-72 tanks in 2007, which were delivered in 2008. But spokesman Malaak Ayuen Ajok denied receiving any more after that date.

“The SPLA has not received any new tanks this year. No tanks have been airlifted into South Sudan,” he said.

Ajok said the south was not building up its forces to prepare for any threat, but was working to modernise its army.
https://www.reuters.com/article/ozatp-sudan-south-arms-20090709-idAFJOE56803720090709




One year after the Hijacking, and after it was no longer a secret


Kenya dispatches military experts to train South Sudan army
August 30, 2009 (NAIROBI) — The Kenyan army dispatched some 200 military experts to train southern Sudan army within Juba efforts to upgrade the former rebel guerrilla force, SPLA, into conventional army.
Another batch of 95 officers would arrive to the semi-autonomous region in September.
The Kenyan teams who are belonging to different armies include officers from the infantry, artillery, military transport and logistics, helicopter pilots, and military intelligence.

The Nairobi Star in a report published last week said the Kenyan officers would train the SPLA in the use of their newly acquired military equipment including an estimated 100 T-72s main battle tanks (MBTs) and assorted Ukrainian and Russian military hardware which Southern Sudan has accumulated over the past year.
https://sudantribune.com/article32144/

From nytimes

Bush administration officials knew of the earlier weapons transactions and chose not to shut them down ,an official from southern Sudan asserted in an interview, and the cables acknowledge the Kenyan officials’ assertions that they had kept American officials informed about the deal. But once the pirates exposed the arms pipeline through Kenya, the Obama administration protested to the Ukrainian and Kenyan governments, even threatening sanctions, the cables show.

Vann H. Van Diepen, a senior State Department official, presented the Ukrainians with a sales contract that showed southern Sudan as the recipient, according to a November 2009 cable from the American Embassy in Kiev. When they dismissed it as a forgery, Mr. Van Diepen “showed the Ukrainians cleared satellite imagery of T-72 tanks unloaded in Kenya, transferred to railyards for onward shipment, and finally in South Sudan,” the cable said, referring to the early deliveries of the weapons. “This led to a commotion on the Ukrainian side.”
Still from NYtimes, Both Kenya and US we're sharing details of the kind of assistance they were providing to SPLM

The agreement also allows southern Sudan to buy arms to transform its guerrilla army into a defense force, and the United States has also publicly said that it has provided communications and other “nonlethal” equipment and training to the southern army, called the Sudan People’s Liberation Army, or S.P.L.A. The cables suggest that effort has gone further than the United States has publicized.

“Over the past two years,” says a December 2009 cable, from the embassy in Nairobi, Kenyan officials “have shared full details of their engagement with the SPLA as we have shared details of our training program for the SPLA, including combat arms soldier training.”
When Ukrainian officials were approached by American officials about the arms shipments in July 2008, they insisted that the weapons were intended for Kenya’s military. Even so, some American diplomats understood otherwise and did not appear very concerned. In a cable from Oct. 19, 2008, Alberto M. Fernandez, who served as the chargé d’affaires in Khartoum, reports that he told officials from southern Sudan that while the United States would prefer not to see an arms buildup in the region, it understood that the government there “feels compelled to do the same” as the north. He also cautioned the officials to take care, if there were future shipments, to avoid a repeat hijacking by pirates and “the attention it has drawn.”
After the Obama administration took office , a new special envoy for Sudan was appointed and the United States offered incentives for Khartoum to cooperate with the coming referendum. Taking a stricter position than the Bush administration on the tanks, the State Department also insisted that the shipments were illegal, since Sudan was on the United States’ list of state sponsors of terrorism.

In a blunt exchange with the Ukrainians in November 2009, Mr. Van Diepen warned that the United States might impose sanctions unless the Ukrainian government acknowledged its role in the past transactions. According to the cable, he cautioned pointedly, “there was nothing for Ukraine to gain from lying and a lot to lose.”

In similar conversations with Kenyan officials, the Obama administration again raised the threat of “sweeping sanctions,” which it said might be waived if the officials cooperated in investigating the third shipment.

In a Nov. 27, 2009, cable outlining talking points for American diplomats in Nairobi to present to the Kenyans, the State Department acknowledged “the apparent disconnect” between provisions of the peace agreement that allowed southern Sudan to develop its defensive capability and the Americans’ legal argument that arms should not be sent there because of the Khartoum government’s place on the terrorism list.
“We also recognize that some members of your government informed some members of the USG that this deal was being prepared,” the cable, which was sent by Secretary Clinton, added. But the cable argued that southern Sudan did not need the tanks, they would be difficult to maintain and they would “increase the chance of an arms race with Khartoum.”

That did not appear to mollify the Kenyans. A cable on Dec. 16, 2009, recounted that the head of Kenya’s general staff told American officials that he was “very confused” by the United States position “since the past transfers had been undertaken in consultation with the United States.” According to the cable, the Kenyans asked whether the Obama administration was reconsidering whether to move forward with a referendum under the peace accord and whether it was “shifting its support to Khartoum.”

In recent months, the Obama administration quietly exempted Ukraine and Kenya from sanctions for the 2007 and 2008 shipments, according to government officials.
Representative Donald M. Payne, the New Jersey Democrat who heads the House Foreign Affairs subcommittee on Africa, has urged that the tanks be shipped. “Our government knew those tanks were being purchased,” he said in an interview. “The fact is the pirates’ seizure of the tanks is what made them change their policy. I don’t think the Obama administration has a clear policy on Sudan.”
https://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/09/world/africa/09wikileaks-tank.html



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After reading the NYtimes article I now realize that G.Bush was more friendly to Kenya than Obama our own son , that nigga!!!

Foreign AffairsRe: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Stargate254: 12:27pm On Jun 02, 2022
kabe1:
There was news going the rounds that the Tanks were for South-Sudan. Thanks for clearing this up.
They were meant for S.Sudan, Then the ship got hijacked by Somali Pirates back then, then the ships manifest was revealed to everyone by the pirates and it became an international incident...
With Kenya risking being exposed for breaking an amrs embargo that had been put in place by the US on Sudan for supporting Bin Laden and Alqaeda , Kenya had to save face by pretending publicly that the tanks were meant for Kenya and not S.Sudan...
So long story short, The tanks got stuck with us or is it we got stuck with the tanks ?

The funny thing though is that the CIA knew that we were secretely facilitating the arming of SPLM (the CIA even participated in the training of SPLM on how to use these weapons) to enebale them defend themselves against khatoum govt in the fight for self rule but when it was exposed by pirates, the US threw Kenya under the bus, their state department was even considering sanctions against Kenya and Ukraine... But the US Congress investigation is what revealed the truth about US involvement, and in the end they had no choice but to develop selective amnesia and forget the whole thing.
Foreign AffairsRe: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Stargate254:
Speaking of Landing Ships...

KDF's Landing ships are not sufficient enough they are forced to seek additional services from a locally built civilian landing craft to transport vehicles between Kismayu/Somalia and Kenya

Foreign AffairsRe: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Stargate254: 7:08am On Jun 01, 2022
NTSA:
I was quite engaged didn't watch the launch but will look for the videos.
Btw there are prospects for mechanized parade tomorrow or some day later.
It's the last National Public Holiday for the CiC if they don't honor him then then I don't see another opportunity cause KDF Day is on 14 October, The end of his 2nd term is one month b4 that.
Foreign AffairsRe: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Stargate254: 6:35am On Jun 01, 2022
1st pic: KNS Jamhuri

pic 2 : Some other KNS ship that was armed with missile too.

If we had built upon this we would be having a different navy right now

Foreign AffairsRe: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Stargate254: 6:29am On Jun 01, 2022
lionel4power:
Those are SeaCats air defence missiles. Almost everyone had them in the 80s. They are thoroughly outdated now.
That's why they have been put up on display at the museum as part of our military history.


Anyway, Throwback ...About the Navy system.
KNS Madaraka

Foreign AffairsRe: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Stargate254: 7:31pm On May 31, 2022
NTSA:
A piece of Kenyan military history will be documented at the "mashujaa" museum (mashujaa is the Swahili word for Heroes)
the mashujaa museum is under construction
I was watching live via phone and I saw some rockets and missiles at the Navy and army sections... Man it's sad to realize that we were better armed in the 70s than we are currently

Foreign AffairsRe: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Stargate254: 7:04pm On May 31, 2022
Toju200:
Link aren't working
Should be working now
Foreign AffairsRe: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Stargate254:
Baliv254:
kdf
From the inside of our Jet #MuseumAirShow
https://twitter.com/KDF_MAJESHI/status/1530584827027673090
Whish these videos were like 10 min long! tongue


From the inside of our Jet #MuseumAirShow
https://twitter.com/KDF_MAJESHI/status/1531180048253956096
Foreign AffairsRe: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Stargate254: 8:25am On May 24, 2022
DCI Kenya forensic lab In Nairobi ... They plan to build a forensic lab in every administrative region in the country..

Foreign AffairsRe: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Stargate254: 8:22am On May 24, 2022
Forensics experts from the Directorate of Criminal Investigations DCI Kenya were invited to Syschelles for conduct a forensic investigation of a mysterious cache of arms that was discovered there.

DCI Kenya is taking the invitation as proof that their forensic expertise have finally come of age to finally begin to have a reputation for expert work.

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