₦airaland Forum

Odibembem:
For your information I am an Edo man, my fore fathers paid homage to the reverred Omonoba, I have a sacred duty to ensure honesty and integrity in any history of d great Empire of Benin. Did u say those walls are in Ring Road? Our own Ring Road, Kings Square that has d beginnings of Airport Rd, Sapele Road, Sakpomba Road, Akpakoava Road, Mission Road, Ekenwan Road and d short drive to d Palace? I give up on, there is no need to continue this.

Again, you lack the ability to understand history, when the picture was taken, the place was part of the palace and there was no airport. The point which I was making is that THINGS CHANGE OVER TIME! That is why I brought a picture from 1897 ! That is why I showed the difference in landscape.
Your problem is that if there were no picture, you would have reverted to your "reasoning" and claim it were a fable!
You think you are being "truthful" and "honest" but in reality you are being retarded. How can you be "truthful" and "honest" about a period which you did not witness ?
Instead of speaking out of logic, you are speaking out of your personal feelings like the retarded you are.

You do not understand history, but you somehow feel you have a say in history. Ask yourself if history courses in universities just focus on teaching feelings and "honesty" and "truthfulness". You don't even understand that history is to be researched, not on the current landscape, but on (again) eyewitness written documents which you in your great delusion have baptised with the name "fable", the rest of the world call it history though.
It seems that to you, either something still exists, either there is a photo of it, either it is a fable. In how many languages must I say that you are not intellectually qualified to talk about this topic ?

And stop making unverifiable claims of your ethnic origin, if anything is a fable, it is your unending claims.

Procashtips:
Ethiopian military superior to that of Nigeria?

Kindly prove your assertion with facts and figures that can be verified. (Mind you, I have watched, seen and read capacities of both countries).

We should be mindful of how we degrade Nigeria.

https://tribuneonlineng.com/top-10-countries-with-strongest-militaries-in-africa-latest/

I don't care about nigeria.
Ethiopian military is superior to Nigerian military, deal with it. That is all I have to say on this matter. No time to waste.

Watcharena:
mexico can't hit back ,they don't take their defence spending serious

Location, location, location.
And stop with the "defense spending" thing, that is an American talking point. Ethiopian defense spending is nothing compared to Nigeria's, but Ethiopian military is far superior to Nigeria's. Russian defense spending is nothing compared to the USA, but Russian defense industry outproduces the entirety of NATO...
And as I said, Mexico will have Russia, China, north Korea and Iran in its corner.

By the way, what was the defense spending of the Taliban ?
What was the defense spending of China when it kicked America's ass in Korea ?
What was the dense spending of Vietnam when it defeated the French then the Americans.

Watcharena:
let them go to war with mexico I want ot see reaction of the so called international community

The USA is like a high school bully, they don't hit you if they know you can hit back. Mexico can and will hit back.

Ekemeze:
Numerous polls showed that most Americans agree to sending military to Mexico.

If the US military invades mexico without any invitation from the Mexican Government, then I believe this a slap to the sovereignty of Mexico as a Nation.

Does the USA want a war with its next door neighbor?
Such a war will have battles inside the USA itself, and Mexico will be backed by Russia, Iran, China, north Korea. This is not going to be an easy war for the USA. The losses are going to be high, too high for the tolerance if the USA.
And American government knows this, that is why they will never invade Mexico, and if you understand this, you wouldn't have made your comment.

Odibembem:
The picture here is d earthen wall made from red clay round d Oba's palace, they were tiny walls not more than 200m in length, don't be deceived. Is this what u guys are referring to? Pls rest, u have been fed a fable

Can you read ?
I clearly state that these are some Benin city walls, I even state the location: ring road.
As for your 200 m comment, you just keep going on tangents. Even the fence of an ordinary average sized house will rarely be less than 200 m, the perimetre of a football field is 400 metres, and you are saying that the palace walls were less than 200 m long. And you got those extraordinary measurements from your time travelling I guess.

I believe I gave you an other picture in which I also clearly state that I believe that is the picture of a part of the wall which is subject of your tirade of hatred.

You are the one who was fed a fable, you feed yourself a fable out of jealousy. The great walls of Benin are in the Guinness book of records, your jealousy and your fable will remain in your head.

History denialism is not new, it is just an other form of conspiracy theory, your mind can't accept facts and you try to force your mental illness upon others. For the last time, the wall was witnessed and written about for hundreds of years. Now don't quote me again and perhaps you should end your obsession about Benin and rather talk about your own people. I'm tired of always having all these mentally ill Nigerians obsessing about my people for one reason or the other. It seems every mentally ill Nigerian believes Edo people owe him explanations.

soqmeov:
"hit putin hard", and "weaken Russia" using Ukraine as a proxy. The Ukrainians were on the verge of agreeing to a peace deal mediated by Israel but the west derailed it.

The Ukrainians did agree to a peace deal, it was in Turkey and it didn't involve Israel. As soon as Russia abided by the agreement by removing its troops from Kiev region, Ukraine threw the peace deal away and started claiming it had beaten Russian military in Kiev region. And NATO flooded Ukraine with more weapons and mercenaries and intelligence and military training...

Masterviolence:
It's quite ludicrous for Justin Trudeau being the worst president in Canada's history to outrightly give a standing O to a Ñàzí, in the company of Zelensky a Jewish.

History will not be kind to these people.

Zelensky is more Nazi than Jewish.
I don't understand how people still get fooled by this old trick: if you own a shop and hate black costumers, then hire a black security guy, pay him well and give him the order to be very wicked with black people. It is called identity politics, if you are a nazi country and want to be accepted, then find a Jew whom accepts to be your figurehead. Like this whenever you are being accused of being a Nazi, you can just point a finger towards the boss and say: " how can I be a Nazi, can't you see my boss is Jewish ?"

The fact some people think that being Jewish implies you are some sort of a holy man is very childish. A black man can stand with white supremacists to destroy other black men, a Jew can stand with Nazis to further the nazi cause, stop focusing on people's ethnicity, focus on what they actually do !

Zelenski has many military units which are made entirely of Nazis, one of the most famous ones is called "Azov battalion".

ivolt:
Trump accumulated $7.8 trillion dollar deficit during his ignoble reign, highest ever in US history,
the foolish and spineless fake doctor Rand didn't complain.
But suddenly, he is concerned that a few billions are being sent to Ukraine.

What else do we expect from those who swear on their lives that 5G causes Covid-19 but ended
up using a 5G phone.

Are you being paid by Ukraine from that stash ?
It is quite strange that you, a Nigerian have a problem with how a USA senator questions borrowing money from China to give to Ukraine in order to defeat Russia and China 🤡
What's in this for you ?

Rossikk:
It’s not a magic video.

Bro, let me give you respect, but sincerely, throw the video away.
I'm not trying to bully you, but please take my advices, I want more Africans to get things right, that is why I give these advises.
I'm gone now.

Rossikk:
But physicists can afford to watch a YouTube video.

If you brought me a video about how I can jump from the 15th floor of a building and just fly away, do you think I will waste time watching it ?

Rossikk:
Looking at their smiling faces makes me want to punch them in the face.

We agree on something finally.

Rossikk:
This peabrain is more interested in macho contests than in learning the history of his ancestors.

You are comical. And obviously too broke to watch an educative video.

Pity.

I'm ignoring you now, because your education is not beyond that if a kid, and I am not your teacher, also you somehow believe we are at the same level. This feels like a physicist debating physics with a toddler.

Rossikk:
We know you can’t afford the data to watch the video, and educate yourself.

Go and hustle, so you can afford it.

You are as gullible as you are uneducated.
You cannot debate me, I can teach you instead.
It is unfortunate that you won't listen.

Who cursed Africa with extreme stupidity ?

Rossikk:
You see? I told you you have a LOT to learn. You actually don’t know much African history. You just know the basics.

Watch this video and learn about When Africa Colonised China.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8oy_XT4JDLU?si=YdVHgYlJj7yMnfaH

Oh, so you modified your comment and this is the final comment. I didn't realize that you were as daft as this, I knew you didn't know much about history but...this is just 🤣 I have no words, we are not mates, not intellectually, I just wasted time talking to a gullible fool.

You need to go back to primary school.
This is what I have been talking about, internet is full with garbage, and now completely uneducated people have the illusion of being educated. They talk to us educated people as if we were their mates...

Rossikk:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8oy_XT4JDLU?si=YdVHgYlJj7yMnfaH

Once again, I have no idea of what you are talking about. Are we still talking about the same thing: history books being for children and eyewitness written records being the way to go ? And you just posted a video, I don't know what it is about, neither do I know the reason, you say nothing at all, instead you just say "You see? I told you you have a LOT to learn "...at this point you look more and more uneducated.

Rossikk:
Do you think you are the only person who reads eyewitness accounts?

You aren’t, Mr.

Plus there are numerous eyewitness accounts YOU haven’t read or even heard of.

Do you know there are eyewitness accounts of black Africans forming empires in China thousands of years ago?

Plus there is more to history than eyewitness accounts. There’s archaeology, language, artefacts, DNA research, cultural congruence and so many other legitimate resources.

How old are you ?
What is this nonsense which you just typed ?

Segun2222:
ask yourself has there been any proxy war russia won against usa lets start from,

I was ignoring you because you seem to change your facts depending on your mood, isn't it you who talked about how the USSR was fighting the USA by proxy in Vietnam ? I wonder if you understand that the USA lost that war. But now in another message, you act as if Vietnam never happened and you are challenging me to name a proxy war in which russia defeated the USA. You seem quite schizophrenic.

Rossikk:
I grew up in the 80s and 90s when all we played was US and UK R&B, and anyone that played Nigerian music (apart from Fela), was regarded as ‘local’, with no class.

Today it’s totally different.

Wow ! I think you should not confuse your neighbourhood with the generality, I was born in 1987, Benin music was loved by everybody I knew. Being "local" wasn't a bad thing to us, we were actually proud of our heritage. Again, Nigeria is not monolithic, different cultures cohabit, different mentalities as well. Some people want to be whiter than Elizabeth, some are proud of their roots.

Rossikk:
I have read African history books as well, from Cheikh Anta Diop to Chancellor Williams to Martin Bernal, and I still learn new insights and perspectives on certain YouTube channels covering African history. You don’t know everything, so open your mind to knowledge.

You see, this is how you betray yourself, you absolutely don't understand history. And you make this mistake even after I have explained it all to you.

Friend, open your ears (...well your eyes), history books are for children, I'm talking about eye-witnesses written documents, going through history as an educated adult, not as a child !
And you were telling me to grow up 🤣

Now this is unfortunate, your argument to me is that I haven't watched 1% of all YouTube videos talking about African history. So instead of you to provide me with a video which you claim is accurate, you challenge me to go and watch millions of videos which would take me more than 3 lifetimes.
This is what I'm talking about when I mention how the internet made people intellectually lazy.

Rossikk:
Grow up and stop talking crap. There are literally MILLIONS of videos on YouTube, so you have no basis to dismiss the entire contents on the platform when you have not watched even 1% of them.

Segun2222:
world second best army is expecting weapons from north korea and iran ke

So you forgot the part where the USA ran out of shells to supply Ukraine ? Eventhough the USA and all of NATO are supplying shells to Ukraine.
You seem to not understand that Russia is outproducing the entirety of NATO.
I don't know if Russia is expecting to get weapons delivery from north Korea, but if they do, it would actually be a good development. You can never have too much.

Rossikk:
These days people learn from YouTube videos. There’s a lot of good, accurate information in many of those videos especially relating to African history, it must be said.

My friend, please throw away those YouTube videos or at least verify what they tell you with your own research.
African history is the biggest victim of revisionism in this world. And the revisionism is from ethno-political groups.

You have to do your own proper research if you really want to learn. I'm not a historian, I'm a mathematician, but in African history I always do my proper research (the same kind a true historian would do).

Look for documents written down by eye-witnesses. Don't fall for lazyness by "learning" through YouTube.

When I was a teenager, I spent so much time in libraries, reading books learning things, and in this generation, you can hardly see kids with that kind of will.

JuanDeDios:
I agree with bolded. We should have stood up to it though. The Europeans had it worse: I mean, when Europe was "Christianized", EVERYONE complied, you had to fall in or nothing. The same is true of places where Islam took over. This seems to be the nature of these two desert religions. But today, the Europeans have "received sense" - as we say here - and secularism is marching on strong. I hope our people too get there some day. With the coming of the Internet and the sharpness of them Gen-Z, there's hope.

Gen-Z is definitely not sharp, and the internet has made people dumber, not smarter. For each useful info in the internet, you have 99 garbage info, and Gen-Z in particular just can't get to the useful info. Many people nowadays think Google is a good replacement for education and logic. I've had countless discussions with complete fools who can't exchange a word on a topic without doing some Google search.

Now you have people who know nothing about a topic but just type on Google and copy and paste what they found on Google (most times complete garbage) and those people now have the illusion that they know something about the topic. Internet made people too lazy to actually do the intellectual efforts to get smarter and learn new things.

Rossikk:
Benin kingdom was absolutely NOT bigger than Nigeria in 1897 when she was invaded. That map you are showing is from centuries earlier, before the slave trade, possibly. A lot had changed in the region by 1897, and many regions had broken away from Benin hegemony.

As I came with a map, I expect you to do the same instead of telling me a story.
The map is from the 18th century, I have more recent maps as well. In 1897 a lot of Benin land had already been colonised by the British (e.g Lagos) but that only means the colonisation started earlier than 1897.

A view of Benin city 1897

Alamkir:
Grt having (insulting) discussion with you. Bye.
I dnt talk to children

You should talk to children, you have the same intellect as them.

Most Nigerians don't realise that their lack of education makes it painful for educated people to have discussions with them, they believe the more educated would have the same patience as teachers and professors at school, but they forget that teachers are paid to have that patience.

Alamkir:
Where is the critism? We are only having discussion to be more clear on an issue. Atleast that's what I thought

Yes, but you are asking questions which I don't expect an educated adult to be asking.
And as I can see from your other comments, you suffer not only from ignorance but also from logic bankruptcy.

These problems of yours put a heavier load on actually educated adults like me when discussing with you. Because we have to teach you for free.

Alamkir:
You are asking China to be like America that u hate. America are probably stealing Syrian recourses, so at least they are gaining something. Weapons are very expensive so I dnt think China will be arming Syria out of spite.

So you believe China would not gain by stopping its enemy from stealing Syrian ressources which as you claim benefit China's ennemy ?
At this point, your problem is your grasp of logic, not actual ignorance.

In the part of ignorance mixed with lack of reasoning faculties:
1. China is resource hungry
2. China could cut a deal with Syria for resources when Syria gets its land back