₦airaland Forum

zomby:
A transcript is just a paper? Are you serious?
I could just tell that you went to Ogbomosho polytechnic.
I don’t know why folks can’t just simply understand what they are talking about…before they spill nonsense.
May God bless Nigeria and all Nigerians.

What did you think a transcript was ?
It is just a paper with your results and a stamp, that is it.
The university secretary print it at leisure and then put a stamp on it, you can also download it from the university website and print it yourself.

blackslayer:
Next time, use your brain or whatever is left of it to make logical inferences rather than expect people to spell everything out for you.

I don't use proof theory too much, I created my own way of proving sentences. By the way, I'm a logician.
You used the wrong word, the aim of communication is not to tender a puzzle to everybody, it is to get a message across without ambiguity. That is why we use words rather than just barking at each other. It is easy to be vague, but hard to be precise. If you were smart enough, then you would always talk in an unmistakable manner. That is one of the first principles of formal languages and the reason why first/second order languages are superior to traditional languages.

Amigoss:
Can you point us to or share where CSU specifically says third party vendor can issue a certificate from them...

Actually, the only way to get a replacement diploma from CSU is to fill the form below and pay the fee.

FakeNEWSevryday:
but you fail to see where it was stated you can get it from a third party which is legal in USA?

Only the university has authority in delivering its diplomas. Universities employ several services, what you are calling 3rd party is just one of the services employed by the university.
So no, you can not just go into a shop and have them print your replacement diploma. Stop with this nonsense.

blackslayer:
Read words? Yes! Read words to make intelligent conclusions or inference. I will spell it out and hold your hands next time.

Next time use the appropriate word rather than expecting people to read your mind.

blackslayer:
Lol. I see you are pedantic which is tempting me to change my nature of discourse with you.

Let me help you out here, I used attendance losely in this context. Attendance / graduated. I thought common sense would indicate that was what I was referring to.

I think you should spend some time working on your emotional intelligence. Your motivation and argument are misguided at best.

I read words, not minds. It is up to you to specify what you think with precision by using the right words.
So you believe in that emotional intelligence nonsense? 😂

blackslayer:
And the purpose of a diploma is to confirm attendance.

Wrong again, the purpose of a diploma is to give you an academic status. Attendance is not what dipolmas attest for, they attest fir the fact you past the exams in a satisfactory manner.
I have seen people attend a university but fail the exam, and I have seen people who showed up only during exams and passed the exams with success.
The group which failed the exams didn't get the degree, the one which didn't attend classes but past the exams well got the diploma.

Procashtips:
Ukrainians are rated very low.

To be sincere, most of other Europeans see Ukrainians as rebellious Russians, so why not use them to do their biddings?

Ukrainians are Russians, and until this war started, most people in Europe didn't see nor make any distinction between them.
Historically both Ukrainians and Russians mostly have their origins in Kiev (capital of Ukraine). Also both Ukrainian language and Russian language are derived from a language which we now refer to as "old Russian".
Their cultures are extremely similar as well.
The only importance Ukraine has to the west is that it can be used against Russia. If Ukraine were far away from Russia, nobody would even care or know about Ukraine.

victorclean:
Wish this nation will be divided into three and Tinube with questionable character will rule the headless mobs/ oduduwpigs

The south alone would be divided into 3, so Nigeria unless the south east or the south west would remain with the north, Nigeria can't be decided into less than 4.

blackslayer:
An official transcript can be used to both verify the institution you attended and your grades. Not just the grades. I am referring to an official transcript sent directly from the institution which is within the scope of the argument/discussion.

Dude, my transcripts are just ordinary paper printed by the university staff then stamped. Yes, in the absence of your diploma within conditions, you are allowed to use the transcript as proof you do have said diploma, that is why the university is always quick to deliver transcripts while you are waiting for your diploma. But you should know that it is perfectly reasonable for your transcript to be refused (that happened to me) and for the recruiter to insist that you must present your degree.
The only thing official about a transcript is the stamp on it.

blackslayer:
I don't understand the relationship between the difficulty of obtaining a document and the importance or function of the document.

You cannot just print an official transcript yourself. It must be sent directly from the institution.

Also, both transcripts and Diplomas have the official school stamp. Now if you are referring to the unofficial transcript, then you are right to say it can just be printed. But I didn't think this was the scope of the discussion.

Anyways, I still don't understand the connection between the ease of obtaining a document and it's importance or purpose. I have explained the functions of both documents.

1. The function of the transcript is to show your results. Transcripts are normally intended for use by universities, not for the work place. For example, when I apply for a job, I get asked my degree, when I applied for PhD, I was asked my degree and my transcript.
2. The layman recruiter normally has no business asking for your transcript (but some businesses do nowadays in order to differentiate candidates without having entrance exams).
3) An 18/20 mark in school A could be less hard to get than an 11/20 mark in school B, so the transcript is kind of useless.

blackslayer:
I am Yoruba! It has nothing to do with the subject matter. My motivation is to seek the truth and facts.

Ok, sorry bro, but you are not like the others. And truth be told, many groups of people whom are not originally yoruba now identify as such due to politics. Your ancestors might have been Edos, you might just not know. Your love for the truth makes a good claim on your ancestral past.
What did your people call themselves before 1830 ?

blackslayer:
Both transcripts and Diplomas are important.

A diploma can be used to verify that you graduated from an institution.
While the transcript can be used to verify the grades you claimed to have attained.

I could even argue that an official transcript is more important because it can be used to verify both the institution you claimed to have attended and your grades.

A transcript is just a normal paper which you can print yourself, the only difference is that it has the stampnof the university on it. The diploma however is not an ordinary paper, it takes time and special tools to make it, it is an official document. A transcript can be forged very easily, diplomas are much harder to forge.

blackslayer:
False! Absolutely false! The diploma contains the school's formal letter head and the Dean's or President's signature. This is a formal document! It is not ceremonial.

If obtained without going through the authorized channels it is nothing but forgery! No mental gymnastics needed.

Notice how the yoruba just create an alternate reality from scratch 😂 It is as if they are assuming that none of us went to universities in developped countries.

VV

zomby:
It is a serious crime to forge an official transcript...Furthermore, it is very simple to detect a forged official transcript, as it should come directly from the university you graduated from.

Does that make sense?

My friend, a transcript is just a paper, nothing special about it, it is just a printed paper showing your results in the exams. The actual special paper is the diploma, and it is a crime to forge a diploma.
You are turning things upside down. The diploma is way more important than any transcript. All that you have in a transcript is just your results and an official stamp.

It takes five minutes for a university to deliver a transcript but it takes several weeks for it to deliver a diploma.

zomby:
It is a serious crime to forge an official transcript...Furthermore, it is very simple to detect a forged official transcript, as it should come directly from the university you graduated from.

Does that make sense?

My friend, a transcript is just a paper, nothing special about it, it is just a printed paper showing your results in the exams. The actual special paper is the diploma, and it is a crime to forge a diploma.
You are turning things upside down. The diploma is way more important than any transcript. All that you have in a transcript is just your results and an official stamp.

It takes five minutes for a university to deliver a transcript but it takes several weeks for it to deliver a diploma.

zomby:
Yeah, I know... Nigerians need to get themselves together.
How come all these overwhelming senseless requirements have not solved our corruption or 419 issues? Maybe its a great idea to change our method of operation.
Why asked for a certificate copy that could be forged when you could have asked for an official transcript? Yes, we have brain, but just don't use it to think in this country; everybody sleeps and faces the same wrong direction.

So you think the "official transcript" can not be forged ? 😂 So diplomas are no longer "official" ?
Either you are a part of the tinubu fellows, or you are being duped by their chatroom concocted lies.

The diploma is official, the transcript can also be forged !

Christistruth00:
The fact you were born and baptized in lies doesn't mean everyone is like you

The fact that you are a Fraudster doesn't mean everyone is like you

Dude, give up the act, you and I know that you are a compulsive liar and fraudster.

whatisthetruth:
and he is using Christ in his moniker to support evil.

I have warned him, that not everything is play as we will all be judged at the end of our lives.

Why use the name of Christ to support evil that batters your nation.

Evil that robs innocent children of a bright future?

Yes, I know him from discussions about African history, he was one of the most deluded and most fanatical Yoruba. When you give him proof that he is wrong, he will just pretend it never happened and continue claiming his lie to unsuspecting people.

whatisthetruth:
Even if they bin it, does it make it right?

You are such a wicked being for supporting the status quo of Nigeria.

One that you can't even get justice.

Ordinary 911 police number, your corrupt Nigeria can't give you.

So your child would grow up not even knowing the police number to call in case of an emergency

Yet you continue to support evil doers. Your cup will soon be full and you will be judged by the King of Kings

Enjoy all the spoils of your earthly riches gained from the blood of the innocent.

Even if you live 200 years YOU MUST STILL DIE

He's a fraudster, I know him. He can lie to you about the colour of the sky even if you are not blind and it is day time.

blackslayer:
It was established that he attended the university.

You are not allowed to independently use any third party to obtain a replacement diploma. You must make the request through the institution you graduated from.

However there are some institutions that use third party agents to accommodate the request for a replacement diploma.

This still doesn't change the fact that using any third party not authorized by the institution is equivalent to criminal forgery.

There are no two ways around this, it is illegal to create a legal/formal document if an institution independently without going through the authorized channels. This is the definition of forgery! It is as simple as that.

Without much ado, Tinubu submitted forged documents to the Nigerian electoral commission, so the next question is this. What does the Constitution dictates must be done in such cases?

Don't forget, just because Tinubu attended the university does not mean he did not or cannot forge the diploma. He did not get the replacement diploma through the proper authorized channels, so this is simply a case of forgery! End of story and there is no need for any extra mental gymnastics.

So far, the only universities I've seen who actually use 3rd party vendors only use them to collect the fee and the request. Then the university sends the replacement diploma to the applicant.
In other cases, the university has its own official diploma vendor which has a contract with the university or is part of the university.

Christistruth00:
It is the Chicago State University sworn affidavit

I know you @chritstistruth, you are a fraudster. You are just pushing an other fraud.
I remember all your delusional rantings on yoruba "history".
Do you ever say the truth ?

In what chat group did they feed you guys with this particular lie ?

Billmos:
Do pple read at all or can't d comprehend what d young man said under oath dat the university only has diploma of students who didn't collect their dat d university don't have tinubu own cos he collected his,dat it's a third order party can replace diploma to students dat lost his since those are ceremonial paper dat it's only the transcripts are what d sch use to certify his graduate.so why will block head nigerian saying he graduated but forged d one he submitted to inec does he forge dat he had 2nd class when he actually has 1st class? I don't understand how can someone forged his own cert n obtained from d sch he passed through.lets stop twisting what is not there just to create what we want cos alot of zombies here don't read d only spread rubbish d gather from whom d follow n believe in.

Christistruth00:
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Read point 3.


" Chicago State University provided a Diploma to Bola Ahmed Tinubu and subsequently provided a certified (Official ) Copy of that Diploma
Both are valid and authentic Diploma's of Chicago State University "

Yoruba and fraud, a true love story. Nobody is being fooled by your paper.

Babastrong:
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You are the one adding "tinubu attended", what people are saying is "tinubu forged the diploma", and that has been proven.
Also, attending a school doesn't imply you graduate.

Nuheights:
I can submit that the spirit of the Nigerian law applies to a conventional forgery where a person, for instance, forges a certificate because he didn't go to school or he didn't graduate from school.
But Tinubu's case is different. He is sure a graduate.
In light of the foregoing, I'm almost certain that the Supreme Court will tamper justice with mercy

1. The case is about the forgery, not about graduation.
2. Your claim about graduation is not proven, it is just a goal shifting exercise, and would need further investigation, and that is why you made the claim.

Programmer47:
Thank you my friend.
You see ehn, Apc followers are the real definition of headless mob.
Once they receive whatsapp update, they don't even bother to think anymore, just mindlessly spew nonsense.
So the 3rd party vendor has no affiliations with the school that the school does not recognise its certificate?
Omo, most of these Apc folks need serious help

They are electronic political thugs, they mostly have very little education except reading and writing. They have chat groups in which they are given their marching orders and from there, they all spew the same lies.

obembet:
Incase u are brainless, let me educate u small. UK, US don't issues diploma certificate second time, but u can get it via third party, if u want to use the certificate to get job in US or any European countries, they wil only request for your SSN and verify ur name via school.

Note:

U and brainless your brother should keep damage the image of the country in the name of emotional politics. Tinubu, Obi, atiku and Thier and children get blue passport. It's u and ur brainless brother that wil affect. More than 80% prisoners in Asia countries are Nigeria and they are from ur region.

1) the "official diploma vendor" of the university is not a 3rd party, it is a diploma vendor which works for the university.
2) when applying for jobs in any country including the one in which I live (France), your diploma is required, the same goes in the USA, the diploma is an official document.
3) also the university whose info you are misquoting is not the same as the Chicago state university, and it doesn't say that, again the vendor of the university which you are misquoting is its official diploma vendor, it works for the university.
4) the only way to order a diploma replacement from tinubu's claimed university is through the form below, then you pay the fee, then the university sends the diploma to you.

Watcharena:
this is the 3rd or 4th s400 that has been destroyed on social media

they also destroyed a hypersonic missile with patriotic superman on social media.

Shattuck:
did CSU tell you they allow third party vendors get their certificate? Even if they do that is because certificate in America are not used for official purpose that is why In America much emphasis might not be placed on certificate, but in Nigeria Nigeria law does not recognize oluwole certificate, as a certificate is recognized for official purpose. Nigeria's law is what supercedes any bullshit gaslighting argument.

You are letting them dupe you a little bit.
1) diplomas are used in the USA as they are used in Nigeria or any other country, the Yoruba created an alternate reality to hide their fraud.
2) diplomas are very official documents in the USA and they are recognised for official purposes as well.
Any educated person knows these tinubu fans are telling lies.

11doubledee:
In that case,I think you have a very good case.
Why not charge him to court with all these glaring evidence that you have.
If truly that is what can be deduced from the CSU registrars testimony under oath.

Dude the "3rd party vendor" thing is a scam, to replace a diploma from Chicago state university, you need to fill a form and send it to the university and pay a fee, then the university will send the replacement to you.

AndroBlaze:
This your post is very funny and I am sure you will deny you ever said something like this if put under oath. You have actually justified the only proven (and logical if you ask me) "lie" Tinubu was caught with when he first became governor in Lagos, he claimed he went to University of Chicago, which is far more prominent than CSU...but I am sure you have forgotten that drama as you GenZs belive the world started when twitter was created.... mumus

Why would I deny anything ?
1) I'm not an American, why should I know the names of American universities by heart ?
2) one university in Chicago is called university of Chicago, the other is called Chicago state university and you think it is impossible (if you don't pay attention and are not from there) to mistake one for the other ?
3) I checked both universities and neither of them allows for "3rd party vendor".
4) you just want to use the fact I once confused both universities to claim I was wrong once and therefore I am wrong on everything, nope, I checked both universities, Chicago state university has a process in which you need to fill a form and send it to the university in order to get a replacement diploma, nowhere do they allow you to go to "any vendor" and just tell him to print whatever and you can call it your diploma.
5) who are you calling gen z, dude if your only argument is that I once mistook Chicago state university for university of Chicago, then you really are not too smart. Two universities with very similar names from the same state as well: Chicago state university; university of Chicago.