Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Subzero047: 9:58pm On Jan 18, 2022 |
Samueltemi337: I don't think Algeria were ranked 4th before the tournament Ok my mistake they were ranked 9th |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Subzero047: 9:53pm On Jan 18, 2022 |
Danielnino00: On penalties.. You do realize that a game lost on penalty shoot out doesn't count as a lose? I'm very sure you don't know..
You go about recording gaffes of the year, but the thread is littered with many false information from your end including your nonsensical "unpopular opinion".... I won't go low to talk about stupid opinions on this thread but they would speak for themselves, my point is there is no reason for Algeria to 3rd in Africa after a 38 match unbeaten run that has dwarfed every African countries result over the past 4 years, Ciao |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Subzero047: 9:46pm On Jan 18, 2022 |
safarigirl: Yes
Yes
Exactly this
When we won AFCON did we become number one in Africa? When Zambia won AFCON, did they become number one in Africa? They were on a one year unbeaten run and 4th in Africa going into the tournament, I think winning the group stage matches coupled with the tournament and the loss of the other rivals was enough to propel them to first even if not during the tournament atleast shortly after |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Subzero047: 9:41pm On Jan 18, 2022 |
Danielnino00: Bro, save your strength...That guy can be so unreasonable.. I used to fault the FIFA ranking method myself until I took time to study it... All the countries are well aware of how it's works that's why the smart ones use it to their advantage.. It's you that is being unreasonable, I have brought out many instances that common sense should tell you that Algeria should have been on top of the African list over the past 3 years but you are confusing yourself with vague mathematics |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Subzero047: 9:39pm On Jan 18, 2022 |
Danielnino00: What about the games they drew?
You don't know how the ranking works at all..
It's simple, the amount of points u lost from losing a game depends on how low your opponent is behind you in the world ranking.. If draw with an opponent ranked below you, you lost points too..
Algeria were able to overtake us in the ranking after we drew twice with Sierra Leone..Those two draws cost us points... What about the Afcon they won, are you saying the amount of points you get for winning Afcon is lesser than the points you get for losing to a lowly rated team? |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Subzero047: 9:36pm On Jan 18, 2022 |
Danielnino00: Which Algeria were 4th before the last AFCON? You earlier said Morocco crashed out in the group stage of the last AFCON..
You don't know what you are saying at all.. Morocco clashed out to 83 ranked Benin yes or no? You are chasing semantics here |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Subzero047: 9:28pm On Jan 18, 2022 |
Danielnino00: They lost to a team ranked 114 in the world in a competition like the AFCON!
Morocco didn't eclipse anything.They were far ahead of Algeria in the ranking before they won the 2019 AFCON...All the points Algeria gathered in the 2019 AFCON wasn't enough to overtake Morocco...And Morocco were equally in form after AFCON..... Algeria was 4th behind Morocco in 3rd before the last Afcon so they were not far behind Algeria then won the Afcon and Morocco crashed out to lowly rated Benin in the group stages, Algeria then went on an additional 2 year unbeaten run, and still ended up behind Morocco in African rankings can you explain it without looking ridiculous? |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Subzero047: 9:22pm On Jan 18, 2022 |
dkay51: the calculation is based on an average of a four year run, so its not exactly a direct addition or subtraction, its an average of your performances over the last four years. So the 28 points they were subtracted for losing against E. G was a 4 year result? If they going by 4 year results which they aren't Algeria will still be solidly no 1 in Africa because they have lost only once in the last 4 years |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Subzero047: 9:16pm On Jan 18, 2022 |
andrewbaba44: Baba ,you explained earlier and I understand you ,trust me
But this thing Dey somehow ,reason am nah
I didn’t mean that FIFA dash teams rankings anyhow ,that point is just too much just because they lost to EG ,they deserve to retain their position at least . They won the Afcon in 2019 and went on a 2 year unbeaten run since then but somebody is using mathematics as an excuse why they should be third in Africa behind Morocco that clashed out of the group stage of the last Afcon |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Subzero047: 9:13pm On Jan 18, 2022 |
Danielnino00: Exactly.. Whatever point they gathered from winning the AFCON wasn't enough to rank them first in Africa because the teams ranked ahead of them at that time also gathered enough points to keep the gap reasonable... They lost 28 points from losing one match tell me what points they have gathered from a 35 match unbeaten run plus winning the Afcon that Morocco eclipsed |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Subzero047: 9:11pm On Jan 18, 2022 |
dkay51: Check the formula and digest it first, you cant argue with mathematics nobody is conjuring numbers from FIFA's POV. What is the formula? You are trusting Fifa's mathematical excuse for their nonsense |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Subzero047: 8:53pm On Jan 18, 2022 |
Grozny: Cause winning a bunch of friendlies against minnows is meaningless. Continental comps far outweigh friendlies so this drop makes sense. Do you know who won the last Afcon? If losing a match in Afcon equals loss of 28 points how much do you think winning Afcon should attract? |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Subzero047: 8:35pm On Jan 18, 2022 |
Bassey starts for Rangers |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Subzero047: 8:00pm On Jan 18, 2022 |
Danielnino00: There are rules guiding how the FIFA ranking works... It's not like FIFA decide to rank certain teams based on how they play.. The ranking is mathematical... There's a formula and the results are calculated according to the formula... Can you tell me how Algeria's 35 match unbeaten run coupled with winning the Afcon and the Arab cup result in them being third in Africa behind Morocco? |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Subzero047: 7:36pm On Jan 18, 2022 |
andrewbaba44: Walai it doesn’t make sense
Just because they lost to Equatorial Guinea they dropped with so many points
Algeria still deserved to be number 1 in Africa Big teams lose to small teams in this tournament I don't see them drop so much points and I don't think such huge amount of points can be withdrawn until after the tournament |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Subzero047: 7:34pm On Jan 18, 2022 |
safarigirl: I am using him to justify a Nigerian player.
If you're crushing on Maduka that is on you, stop using me to project your true feelings please. Take it to his DMs .  |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Subzero047: 7:33pm On Jan 18, 2022 |
Daninya33: Probably he is acting based on what he has heard from Moses Simon or his sources in the glasshouse. Amongst all the footballers that have emerged from Kaduna state, the likes of Ambrose Efe, Simon Moses,Sadiq Umar, Chrisantus Macaulay etc Only Simon Moses is closest then Sadiq Umar. Dude is one of the best sports journalist in Nigeria.He was in South Africa 2010 as a reporter.He also won the best sport journalist in Nigeria 2020 He will spill more as it concerns his friend. Hahahaha Dude is mouthed. You seem to know him very well |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Subzero047: 7:20pm On Jan 18, 2022 |
Grozny:
The potency of losing to lower opposition Fifa never liked Algeria, imagine going on a 30+ unbeaten run coupled with winning the Afcon and yet still not top in Africa |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Subzero047: 3:16pm On Jan 18, 2022 |
Happy birthday to the Goat
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Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Subzero047: 2:11pm On Jan 18, 2022 |
mostob: Agreed wholeheartedly. I'm sure some Europeans also voted for Mendy. That's the point many of them voted him because they felt he deserved it |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Subzero047: 1:54pm On Jan 18, 2022 |
safarigirl: We are talking about goal keepers here, please, stick to the position. And so what? |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Subzero047: 1:41pm On Jan 18, 2022 |
safarigirl: Exactly.
There have been multiple Donnarumas over the years, but there has not been a Mendy.
Finally, an African player is in prime position in world football, and still, some of his people decided to vote for the guy that it's just another award for his people.
I honestly think that some Africans choose to remain blissfully ignorant to how skewered the world is for them. They are literally at the bottom of the totem pole, and they still walk around thinking they have privileges others do and can afford to take chances other races do. You think white men got to the top by abandoning their own when it was time for a push?
They can afford to vote based on merit, because they are at that top and nobody is pushing them down, you wey still dey hustle wan come dey follow your senior dey do unbiased.
Anyway, I'm glad the right person won the award finally. He wasn't going to lose out on the award twice.
This will be good for other African goalies coming up and it will be a boost for their careers, from Onana to Okoye, one of their own has broken the ceiling and it will help give them the right boost to follow through. That is the most important thing in all this for me. Leave that thing this is not the first or last time an African player will be included in Fifa the best Xi so if you are not a Chelsea or Senegal fan I don't see why you should care |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Subzero047: 1:13pm On Jan 18, 2022 |
safarigirl: You cannot answer the question, because you know nobody would give an African player FIFA Best because he won his continental competition, but an European can get the award on that basis over someone that won more trophies in a more balanced competition.
You have answered the question, thank you for your time. Miss me with the hypothetical bullsh1t, one question, has Mendy won the Afcon, no why are you even making it the point of the argument when it has not even happened, why don't you advocate for the keeper that has won the Caf Champions league to be on the same pedestal with Mendy since you care so much about Africa |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Subzero047: 1:10pm On Jan 18, 2022 |
safarigirl: It is very funny that the only time black people remember that emotional blackmail is a thing, is when it is time for them toelevate one of their own.
I have never seen a race that is so Anti themselves outside of the Negroid race. Na why dem use their hand sell each other during slave trade. Some people just exist to sell out their people.
If you want to ruin a black man, call his brother. You think elevating ourselves is disregarding our choices and making blind decisions instead of putting in performances that will dwarf our competitors shows how you think You are the worst example of the anti- blackness you talk about, instead of being competitive and dominating no rather we use nepotism and blackmail and see how far it gets us smh |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Subzero047: 1:00pm On Jan 18, 2022 |
safarigirl: Club World Cup. Mendy won the Club World Cup too
The EPL is also rated higher than the Serie A for a reason.
Once again, would Mendy have won this award if he had won the AFCON and come second in his league?
You are deviating and answering questions nobody asked you
Yes or No. Would they have given Mendy this award if he won the AFCON? Oh I forgot the club world cup, very significant cup and why would I answer if Mendy has won the Afcon when he has not won it |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Subzero047: 12:50pm On Jan 18, 2022 |
safarigirl: There is no metric he earned it that is higher than Mendy's
The only thing he won was literally the Euros.
Would Mendy have won that award if he won the AFCON and nothing else?
Answer this thing with clear mind Donnarumma won the player of the tournament and won the Euros and finished 2nd in Seria A, Mendy won the Champions league and finished 4th in the premier league, I don't know what metric you are using but my metric tells me that Donnarumma deserves it more than Mendy and if not for the rant Mendy went on when Donnarumma won it at the ballon d'or he would have won it again at Fifa the best, you are now blackmailing North Africans for not voting Mendy like if Bono was in a similar situation you would have cared and stop comparing Euros and the Afcon they are not on the same pedestal |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Subzero047: 12:37pm On Jan 18, 2022 |
BascoVanVeli: Mendy would easily walk away with it going by what u just said. If our over 50 members vote for Mendy, Europe will split votes on Donnarumma and Neuer. Mendy and Africa win. Who is splitting votes on Donnarumma and Neuer, my point is allow people to vote who they want and stop emotional blackmail |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Subzero047: 12:25pm On Jan 18, 2022 |
BascoVanVeli: U are the one who wants them to vote blindly. We want them to open their eyes and see that Unless we stick together in player votings we won't win much. If everybody sticks to their clan do you think any African player would win an European dominated vote, let everybody vote their choice that way an unjaundiced and deserving winner will emerge |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Subzero047: 12:22pm On Jan 18, 2022 |
safarigirl: Did anybody say anything about blindly voting every African?
This was specifically in relation to Mendy, and there is no criteria that Mendy was not deserving of that award, being African should have also boosted his chances with Africans.
What they did is akin to robbing your brother of something he earned, just so you won't seem biased. It is self-sabotage and it is the same thing we just mentioned about how Africans cannot work together, because they are sellouts
Mendy earned that award by every metric, and his own people still voted against him. Donnarunma earned that award by every metric if we are arguing by footballing merits he was the best player at Euros and had a stellar season now its up to the discretion of the voters to choose who had a better season this your argument about robbing your brother is emotional blackmail and nepotism and it is not a good way of convincing anybody that Mendy deserved the award, if at the end his performance convinced majority that he had a better year so be it but trying to hold people hostage on their votes is not it |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Subzero047: 12:09pm On Jan 18, 2022 |
safarigirl: So, Zimbabwe's Captain voted for Alisson over Mendy in that FIFA Best award, no wonder they are chopping bottom of the table at AFCON. No football brain, no brotherly feelings. Just otu players
Other African nations that showed their asses
Salah is more dedicated to club than continent, the eleribu voted Alisson Tunisia's Captain, another idiot that voted Neuer Namibia's Captain too, a whitewashed idiot voted Donnaruma Uganda's Captain, a Mumu and more, voted Donnaruma. Malawi's captain, na Senegal go deal with them today, that one too, voted Donnaruma. Angola's Captain, another otondo, voted for Donnaruma
We suppose gather these useless people, flog them, especially that hating mumu Salah. Nawa o, people don't have freedom to vote again, just because they are from Africa they must blindly vote every African contestant? |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Subzero047: 10:27am On Jan 18, 2022 |
mkrest: Reported by complete sports What ya think? Not bad |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Subzero047: 7:11pm On Jan 17, 2022 |
andrewbaba44: Na me go come take you serious ,person wey no even understand himself
Any small thing this days una to Dey call person papa ,if I start with una now dem go say I don start  So any sentence that includes 'father' na your papa dem dey call, you need deliverance  |