₦airaland Forum

AwokenVawulence:
Hellanus says he doesn't see anything Wrong with this , now tell me is he not mad

2mch:
The writer of the constitution is saying he is from a Yoruba aristocratic family! The descendant is claiming to be from Ethiopia. The descendant must be on cheap weed. It’s those Oyo or Onikoyi families that have those Muslim names. They migrated around same time with Awori as vassals of the Alaafin. Awori are mostly traditionalist.

2mch:
Lmao. Elias family does not come from Ethiopia. That guy was whining you because he knows you are ignorant. Elias family are probably from Onikoyi branch and adopted an English name. That is why he claims he is from a traditional Yoruba aristocratic family. Check out his history, Taslim Olawale Elias? If you want to catch a true Lagosian, they have Muslim names too with that English name.

Taslim does not claim to come from Ethiopia . Lagos history is very funny and complicated but we are mostly descended or associate with those Oba’s. Oba of Lagos is the real Awori crown with the real Awori aristocracy. They just intermarried with Benin royalty. Those Lagos Island families are their subjects. Most to be posh adopted English names.

2mch:
Lmao. Elias family does not come from Ethiopia. That guy was whining you because he knows you are ignorant. Elias family are probably from Onikoyi branch and adopted an English name. That is why he claims he is from a traditional Yoruba aristocratic family. Check out his history, Taslim Olawale Elias? If you want to catch a true Lagosian, they have Muslim names too with that English name.

Taslim does not claim to come from Ethiopia . Lagos history is very funny and complicated but we are mostly descended or associate with those Oba’s. Oba of Lagos is the real Awori crown with the real Awori aristocracy. They just intermarried with Benin royalty. Those Lagos Island families are their subjects. Most to be posh adopted English names.

netmillionaires:
You are safe else I would have asked you which of the Fasholas because I know the Fasholas too well. You must be talking about Ambo then.

2mch:
You talk like someone that is not well trained. A true Lagosian does not speak such crass way. We are known and respected for our class. Now, all this Nigga talk is an ignorant kid talk. Vaughn experience is not all Lagos family experience but a very tiny minority. Even most Sierra Leone returnees who escaped a slave ship wreck did not settle in Lagos but returned to their villages. Even Fani-Kayode ancestor went straight back to his village in Osun. These people knew where they were from but you, a googler is trying to tell us about Lagos history. Making spurious claims that don’t follow logic.

2mch:
Ignorant kid. Nobody returned from America except immigrants. Call the name of the royal family you belong to let me laugh!!! The fact that Vaughn family intermarried with Lagosians give them a claim because we do not deny the children of our girl children their right. I assume you do not know that. You assume our association of lineage is only paternal. A Lagosian will never say that. But an Easterner or South Southerner will assume so. So your ancestry on that point is suspicious.

2mch:
I belong to at least 3 of those Lagos Royal families too. Your family built nothing in Lagos. Lmao. Go and ask who built Lagos and you will see all these families names come up. Oyinbo did not even know you exist except we brought you out for taxing. Which your family remits to our Oba’s and administrators. Call your family name if e sure for you! I am even sure if you do, they are probably not Awori.

netmillionaires:
Are you saying that you are from the Fashola family?

2mch:
Your family built nothing in Lagos I can assure you. Those names up there are responsible for most of the building in Lagos and setting up Lagos for what it is today. Your family were largely isolated and living in remote villages. Even your father cannot make the claims you are making here. Who do you think you are chatting with? Go and ask your father, Lagos Island families made all the moves for Lagos and were the richest and most educated Nigerians. So where does your family come in?

2mch:
Very few royalty in Lagos are even as original Awori as these guys you are trying to rubbish their ancestry. Your so called royalty is not royalty but a village chief who was updated by Tinubu. Very few real Royalty in Lagos. Not these cash and carry ones that your family probably belongs to. Which is why you obviously know nothing about Lagos Island families. We are different from the bush ones from the mainland. So don’t insult us. We are responsible for the Lagos you are proud of today.

2mch:
YOU are the one formulating stories out of your ass. You are not Lagosian and you do not have an idea what you are talking about. I am telling you what the reality is. You can not use the story of one immigrant to Nigeria to now paint all Lagos families. That was not a returnee but an immigrant. It’s different. Stop confusing yourself, jumping to conclusions and trying to turn family histories greater than your own to rubbish.

2mch:
Guy, they did not gravitate towards anything. They simply came back home. You are arguing points you know nothing about. You don’t know the history of Lagos like I do. I am from one of these families and we do not discriminate against these people and call them slaves. They made Lagos what it is today! These families occupied Lagos Island and were mostly taken from there or travelled from there. Lagosians, especially Lagos Islanders are far ahead of other Nigerians in every way when it came to education and trade. They had been doing international trade and education long before other Nigerians who were telling tales in villages and clapping hands every night . The Ijebu’s were still in their fishing villages and Eguns as well. The village Awori’s were farmers. These names are Yoruba exposed to westerners and most are Awori descendants who occupied Lagos Island. The ones with English names have Yoruba family names. Those ones did not go anywhere to slave! They just adopted those names via religion or trade due to their interaction with Oyinbo. The ones with Spanish sounding names are returnees!

raskymonojendor:
You are right. But haven't met any that's not Yoruba. We are Yoruba first.

EmperorCaesar:
Meaning most of these guys may not be originally Yorubas

2mch:
The ones that escaped in Sierra Leone were shipwrecks. They came right back home. The ones from Brazil were not all slaves and Brazil did not practice slavery like US. No White person gave anybody money. The blacks in Brazil were keeping families with links back to Nigeria and preserving their history so they know where they are from. A lot were able to buy their freedom and come back home before death too. It’s not a one type of story! No slave returnee from America came back! America was too far and brutal with their slavery. Except they immigrated into Nigeria legally like this Vaughn that you claim. Even that was rare.

2mch:
The ones that escaped in Sierra Leone were shipwrecks. They came right back home. The ones from Brazil were not all slaves and Brazil did not practice slavery like US. No White person gave anybody money. The blacks in Brazil were keeping families with links back to Nigeria and preserving their history so they know where they are from. A lot were able to buy their freedom and come back home before death too. It’s not a one type of story! No slave returnee from America came back! America was too far and brutal with their slavery. Except they immigrated into Nigeria legally like this Vaughn that you claim. Even that was rare.

staga:
I think she meant the descendants who decided to come back from Brazil on their own.

2mch:
Ok. It does not apply to everyone on that list. 99% are Yoruba and the returnees are Yoruba too. Tansome-Kuti found his way back to his village in Abeokuta. Many on that list like that from Ogun and Osun state. Not all on that list are Lagos names. Freestuffs just added all the names she knows. Most of those returnees were mature when they left and came back older, with knowledge of their villages and even family member they left behind. So they did find their way back home and started contributing to their ancestral land tremendously.

2mch:
Not true. Load of bullshit you wrote there. Yoruba going to Brazil knew who they were and not all were returned slaves. Yoruba were going to Brazil for trade and education. Some were free in Brazil, made money and came back. No Oyinbo will give you any money as a free slave. The slaves amongst them paid for their freedom and came back home.

FreeStuffsNG:
Lagos is not for sale and has never been for sale. If you know you know Just note those Lagos family names again.

Shout out to these Yoruba families;
Vaughan
Willoughby
Petgrave
Phillips
Thomas
Beecroft
Verissimo,
Shaw,
Da-Silva,
Pratt,
Payne,
Bickersteth,
Cole,
Carrena,
Damazio,
Pedro,
Audiffren,
Gomez,
Jones,
Rhodes,
Darocha,
Williams,
Sawyerr,
Pearse,
Ransome-Kuti,
Plumptre,
Bucknor,
Santos,
Savage,
Turton,
Dallas,
Johnson,
Moore,
Macaulay,
Egerton,
Boyle,
Domingo,
Randle,
Carr,
Davies,
George,
Blaise,
Davies,
Shacleford,
Taylor,
Combe,
Candide,
Vera-Cruz,
Anthony,
Fernandez,
Lawanson,
Clegg,
Damazio,
Lucas,
Lewis,
Martins,
Campbell,
Smith,
Coker,
Braithwaite,
Wellington,
Vivour,
Silva,
Soares
Antonio
Brown,
Salvador,
Holloway,
Peters,
Macgregor,
Grillo,
Campos,
Trezises,
Pereira,
Pineirho,
Martinez,
Marinho,
Dacosta,
Piero,
Ribeiro,
De Souza,
Moreira,
Cardoso,
Ferreira,
Cruz,
Ganzallo,
Branco,
Agusto,
Shitta-Bey,
Allen,
Coates,
Evans,
Forsythe,
Griffin,
Griffith,
Joseph,
Berkley,
MacCarthy,
Fischer,
Ricketts,
Roberts,
Simpson,
Reis,
Shyllon

Kelechi009:
So because of this, Nigerians should suffer and enter into War with Niger Republic. Buy dollar at 950?

Are you happy now?

youngestgrad:
B.a.s.t.a.r.d!!

kokoA:
That's the only way FG can handle them, ignore them as far as they don't disturb the peace of others, they will get tired and start having sense small small, eventually hunger will unite all of us in Nigeria.

kokoA:
They want IPOB to do their worst Nothing will happen if they don't release him and nothing will happen even if they release him.

gidgiddy:
And since all tribes contributed to the mess that Nigeria is, it makes sense for all tribes to go their different ways so that the mess called Nigeria can finally end

RenaissanceGuy:
This guy's threads are always an eyesore bereft of commonsense and logic.

gidgiddy:
And what has all this got to do with the fact that Nigeria is porverty capital of the world, 8th most insecure country on earth, and an all round failure of a nation which many people are tired of?

AngelicBeing:
You have started again with your Starbucks Coffee ☕ and Egg and Bagel analysis

gidgiddy:
Its funny how those who are profoundly against Igbos are so suddenly worried about Simon Ekpa?

Do these people think they are fooling Igbos with their fake concern about Simon Ekpa and whatever insecurity there is in the South East?

These people dont care about Igbos, what they hate is the mention of Biafra. They hate Biafra so much because it threatens their useless 'one Nigeria'

They hope that by silencing Nnamdi Kanu and Simon Ekpa, the Biafran agitation will die

Unfortunately for these ignorant people, they dont realise that the reason why there is Nnamdi Kanu, Simon Ekpa and Biafran agitation is that Nigeria had long failed as country and a nation

So no matter what happens to Kanu or Ekpa, the Biafran agitation will only get louder and stronger as a lot of people are tired of Nigeria