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olatade:
The universities were never closed. So this order won't make any difference.

True

Ebubu:
sorry oh! no go teach! when your mates receive october salary, while you strike into christmas. i go see how you go take buy christmas rice chop.

Heheheheheh!!

Those wey dey teach since feb 14, FG never pay them ooo, SSANU and the rest wey call off since august, FG never pay them, what makes you think october salary will come?

Pierce008:
Do you think, it's all lecturers that are in support of the strike? Spoke with one of my prof. one time, and he actually told me that there are some lecturers that are bitterly against the strike.

One thing I learnt from this strike is, if ever ASUU survive this battle against the FG, they will never easily want to use strike as a medium to table their aggrievances again


Both ASUU and FG have shown they are insensitive against the students with their unending disagreements.

Tell your prof to go and lecture simple... it is not by force to join union

The same prof will still apply for tetfund NRF that ASUU fought for

Oblivion34:
We are already seeing it...

You should watch out and wait for the end of the Almighty union that never ceases to mark every year with strike

The strike occurs every year because the FG has refused to do its job..

Otherwise the strike will be occuring every year.

The best thing is for the FG the hands off, this is the best global practice.

Otherwise make we dey watch

Stephen2324:
Does a sleep over mean we will probably have sex?

Yes

Oblivion34:
Do your worse. You will all be disgraced in the long run

Let's watch and see

Eleyigidgan:
you're a big fool

You are just displaying your empty brain

JJuanMiguel:
Lol
Meaning the lecturers will repeat the work they did before the strike too.
FG is gradually pushing ASUU to the corner so they can self destruct.

You did not understand what i meant

Ebubu:
even if they don’t teach, they will still set exams, promote and graduate students.

Well let's watch and see

Ebubu:
empty threats from you

Ssanu and naat called off but if you go to most universities, everything is on lock down

ASUU will call off, but i doubt if they will start from where they stopped, that is if they agree to lecture..

The way i see it

Oblivion34:
How's it going?

Going great..��

New session loading!!!

Oblivion34:
Sounds fair!

At least everyone will get to see who you really are- A selfish and self centered union

Let everyone start afresh, heavens won't fall

https://www.channelstv.com/2022/09/06/ASUU-fg-sets-up-committee-to-review-no-work-no-pay-decision/


All the committee up and down, yet no solution will be provided

Gabbriell:
U sure say u read my comment b4 typing your reply?

I read am..

Just leave matter abeg the whole system in Nigeria is a mess

Gabbriell:
School fee increase won't solve the issues, not with the amount of corruption going on in the country.
The FG has the money... using it for education is what they don't like. It leaves them with less to loot.
Take a look at the cost of governance in Nigeria and ask yourself if we have the money or not?
Check out the additional amount of money spent on top the 2022 budget and ask yourself if we have the money or not?
The problem with Nigeria is never about whether we have d money or not. It is misappropriation of money. Any government that is leaving office makes sure they loot as much as possible. This is the reason this strike might enter the next administration.

Now you are talking

Victoronah1:
800k for a professor, that is 9.6miilion a year ,minus other allowances. you guys must be very selfish, and wicked. How much is director at level 16 in a ministry with over 35 years of work salary. Is your job more professional than them. Even permanent secretary salary is not up to 500k. Wicked souls. A teacher at primary school with over 35 years will retire with 70k max, but Una go take almost 800% of the salary. Now I see the reason ASUU is on strike. Federal government should sack all professors, who are into this, and replace them with PHd people who are serious.

In India average salary of a professor is 477,352.78
If not for the devaluation of our currency.

How much are specialized doctors earning.

How much are judges earning. A judge in Nigeria high or appeal court is not up to 400k. Do you know what it takes to become a judge. Nonsense, na only una dey build Nigeria for. Because they call themselves proffers which is a title, then they feel they are superior

How much is universities making for federal government that they should go into debt to pay such amount of money? If universities are making money, they should be able to pay these lecturers with ease.

Currently specialized Doctors in Nigeria earn more than professors

Gabbriell:
What of 2020/2021 session?. Most schools are already running two sessions concurrently due to previous strikes.
And I'm not even talking about the different type of postgraduate studies and their timelines. Some of which do not correspond to your argument.

Talk this kind trash for street, students go just lynch you direct. People suffer to pay school fees, worked hard and u say they should wipe their sweat off.
FG and ASUU should better sit down and sort themselves out.

I was doing my Phd when they went on strike during 2018/2019 session, it affected my timelines, but i took advantage to the extent that when it was called off, i was ready for all the viva voce that followed.

I know how much of my money i spent to do my experiments and simulations outside the country ooo because i could not find anywhere in Nigeria i could do it.

I understand the part that the FG are saying that they cannot fund public universities again which is why they recommended the school fee increase, that ASUU refused.
How many families can afford such and they did not send their children to private universities?

You people don't really understand what is going on sha, maybe we all prefer it the way it is and complain later on why engineering courses in Nigeria are not part of the washington/sydney accords or why medical doctors will have to write exams before moving abroad or why international mobility is difficult except one writes an exam or registers for a PG course abroad...

Anyway i rest my case, we shall get whatever we deserve

Gabbriell:
What of 2020/2021 session?. Most schools are already running two sessions concurrently due to previous strikes.
And I'm not even talking about the different type of postgraduate studies and their timelines. Some of which do not correspond to your argument.

Talk this kind trash for street, students go just lynch you direct. People suffer to pay school fees, worked hard and u say they should wipe their sweat off.
FG and ASUU should better sit down and sort themselves out.

Students that cannot even organise themselves? Is it the same students that have collected money and kept quiet while the strike is still going on?

This is how the system works, FG knows it so don't come here and be blaming ASUU.

If you guys are against the strike, why didn't you guys protest and shake things, instead you guys are quiet.

If this strike goes on for another one year, none of you will say anything oooo

Oblivion34:
Sounds fair!

At least everyone will get to see who you really are- A selfish and self centered union

Let everyone start afresh, heavens won't fall

Like i said in the start of this conversation, you don't understand how the academic system works, if you do you will understand my point of view.

Graceunlimitedd:
na fool you be.
If Dem born you well talk this RUBBISH for where students dey if you come out unhurt then call me a bastard.
A lady in her final year that couldn't graduate due to this strike got a job last two months and was shot and killed by armed robbers in her place of work, now when the strike is called off she wouldn't resume again as she's late.
be like you Bastards don't know the kind of anger boiling in students mind now and when schools resume you sadist resumes with your Nonsense y'all gonna learn the hardway.

He's an attention seeking dingbat.
Just ignore the lowlife.
It's pointless quoting him

Please low life go and sit down... i have said what i said, come and kill me...

It is your parents that are the bastard, if you don't know how to talk don't jump into my conversation.

Keep exposing your dummy brain up and down

InforEduNG:
Unical has note yet regularised staff employed since 4 years ago but there is money for her to flex.

Mods, Segun this should be on front page pls so everyone will see what this woman is doing she even came an increased fees people are dropping out of Unical because they can’t pay fees

So she should use her salary and settle people?

You will only have a case if it is the university's money that is sponsoring the trip, otherwise allow the woman enjoy her break

Oblivion34:
Nobody is paying me to do anything (Although I don't mind some incentives)

It hurts you that I write the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.

No Work, No Pay!!!

Besides the government initiated the policy one month after the strike. The union can't claim that they were not informed.

Federal government will win this case if it was to be tabled in front of a court of law

Win what? Lol! Did they win their case last year against NARD when they implemented the same policy?

Please do some research before you come out in public to state unknown facts.

Niklaus398:
Me and you knows the fg will succumbs whether today or tomorrow is immaterial but they will still pay that money. . so why postpone the evil day?

Don't mind them... they are talking as if it is today ASUU started going on strike..

Oblivion34:
Let's see how this plays out since their president is so smart in leading them into shame and irrelevancy

Nothing go happen, 2021/2022 session will be wiped off, no need working for something they will not pay..

Everything will start from 2022/2023 session or 2023/2024 session depending on when the strike is called off

Oblivion34:
We've seen other schools call off strike and start exams under short notice.

It will be no different when ASUU decides to call off strike.

They don't deserve a penny!

The challenge to you was to point out the school, then bring their academic calendar and support your point, because what you heard is not an evidence. But well!!!

Just so that you are aware, in relation to an academic calender, things are followed strictly, otherwise students have the right to take the university to court or protest... that is why we have SUGs and NANs

Oblivion34:
ASUU declared a strike in February 2022.

Every meeting with the Union has always ended in deadlock.

The union, however, stood its ground and claims not to shift grounds until all of its demands are met.

Meanwhile, the union president kept referring to how the government has seized their salaries to influence their decisions and stance.

This is the month of September 2022 and the government has met more than 60% of the union demands.

All the striking unions already called off strike the past month after a brief meeting with the government.

ASUU has refused to call off the strike because the Federal government is not willing to pay them their 6 months salary arrears.

They've however been very tactical with the strike time frame. At first, they declared one month strike, then kept increasing the time frame while making it look as if they were willing to call off the strike in good faith.

They declared an indefinite strike after the government had met 60% of their frivolous demands.

Before the federal government thinks about paying the union their 6 months arrears, think about the effect it will have.

ASUU is known for declaring strikes every year because they often get paid before they resume back to class.

Where is it done that a union will declare 6 months strike, and still be expecting a salary for work not done?

There is without a doubt that the union has lost the sympathy of 80% of most Nigerians, and the only thing stopping students from declaring them public enemy No.1 in the educational sector is because of "fear"

If the federal government decides to pay them today, nothing will stop them from declaring a 3-5 years strike tomorrow!!!



ASUU is failing to realize that nobody is happy with the present-day government.

Declaring over 3 months of strike while expecting pay for work not done is selfish, and unjustifiable.

In a sane world, a union is expected to press its demands for a maximum of 3 months before resuming back to classes.

Before declaring an indefinite strike; the union claim they are not going to make up for the lost months if the government fails to pay them

No matter what happens, students will always be at the receiving end.

During our time, lecturers were so inconsiderate after calling off 4 months ASUU strike. They started exams immediately as if we were the cause of the strike/fight.

The bolded part has always been the tradition of ASUU. They don't make up for all the lost months.

"ASUU claims the strike is a sacrifice for the generation to come." They should also be willing to sacrifice their one-year salary for the generation to come.

Paying ASUU will mean more subscriptions to more strikes in the nearest future.

Not paying them their 6 months strike will make them more reasonable before declaring another strike in the nearest future,
(II) It will enable them to give more listening hears to what the government has to offer quicker, rather than standing on what they want!


I am #Oblivion

You are saying 60%, FG is saying 80% meanwhile all they did was to promise as usual.

The question i will ask you, according to your 60%, what did the FG fulfill?

Oblivion34:
The bolded are LIES from the pits of hell!!!

Students will be rushed, many academic performance will drop drastically, many will give up on acheiving a good grade and will just want to graduate, let's I forget lots of carryovers.

The 2nd ASUU calls off strike. There is only going to be one or two weeks of revision before exams starts. The next semester will then proceed normally

I challenge you to prove that what i said are lies from the pit of hell.

In proving it, bring an academic calender of a university and show me when strike started and when strike was called off and when exams started in any particular university.

Otherwise you have no idea what you are talking about

Oblivion34:
You call two weeks of revision (That's if the lecturer even comes to class), and exam work?

Lecturers are not going to teach anything. They'll just assume students has been reading while the strike was ongoing!

Like i said, there is always an academic calender that is followed.

If strike interrupted a semester at week 9, once the strike is called off, everything will resume from week 9

The only difference is that the holidays will be reduced

But anyway i doubt if you know how an academic calender works....

Oblivion34:
So you are agreeing to the fact that the government should always hire interim lecturers to teach when ASUU declares strike.

That way they can go on strike for as long as they want, and will agree to not get paid at the end?

You are brilliant!

That is an option, but it is not feasible and government knows it.

The academic system is different from your normal 9 to 5pm jobs.. you guys are failing to realise this

Oblivion34:
The bolded are LIES from the pits of hell!!!

Students will be rushed, many academic performance will drop drastically, many will give up on acheiving a good grade and will just want to graduate, let's I forget lots of carryovers.

The 2nd ASUU calls off strike. There is only going to be one or two weeks of revision before exams starts. The next semester will then proceed normally

The first semester exams was just about to start before this strike, once the strike is called off exams will start

The academic calendar will be followed simple

JJuanMiguel:
Because it was unreasonable, ASUU asking for 180% salary increment. It means someone on 200k will jump to 560k.
FG who is their employer offered 30k-60k increment, they said it's too small and that's part of why they are still at home.
But the major reason, even though they will deny it is the shock of the stance of FG on no work no pay policy. They didn't anticipate it, some have even borrowed money via their cooperatives to sustain themselves during the strike with the hope to get a huge sum when they call off to pay back. Now FG have put them in a more difficult position.

It is called negotiation for a reason. Both parties must negotiate to meet at a neutral ground...

The reason why this strike is taking time is because both parties are failing to meet at a neutral ground.

Those (the various student associations) that are meant to act as a "catalyst in the chemical reaction" are busy enjoying their holidays at home. If ASUU comes out tomorrow and accept the fees proposal by FG, that is only when they will act..

Godoverevery:
Where is your own proof

The moment you admit this ASUU strike is for selfish interests the better for you.

If ASUU wants to be honest let them post there demand out on the media but I know they can't because it major about there salaries and welfare.

I have an uncle who is a lecturer and he is my source.

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National association of resident doctors will soon go on strike with regards to hazard allowance, MTR, skipping and others, will you tag their own struggle "selfish interest"?

crownprince2017:
I ask you, is assu not on monthly salary, are they being paid based on academic calendar?
Why are many people reasoning the same way?
I employed and put you on monthly salary, is there anything like where we stopped working or what is assu saying that is not logical?
If assu want to be paid just like their counterparts in developed countries, do they give what their counterparts give in those countries?

The money the universities are generating in Nigeria is more than the money they are generating for the government, who is holding them accountable for this?

They claimed they were on strike yet many of them still sells one form or the other just to generate igr, for who pls? The environment they are using to sell forms, how much is their investment there..

Because there is corruption in government does not mean we should continue to do the wrong thing after all assu members are corrupt too.

To me, assu are selfish to the point of not weighing the consequences of there actions, who it will affect and how it will affect them, mind you, government will come and go, assu are like landlords that must make sure your houses are not tattered by the tenants..they supposed to show more patriotism as the landlords they are. After all government did something.

1. The money generated by universities are in TSA, universities do not even have a say on what they do with the money without going to abuja to beg or defend it
( even departmental fees are paid into TSA, the only fee that is not paid into TSA is all those student association fees)

2. IGR generated by universities are split between the individual university and the federal government (60:30 or thereabout).

3. All those forms that they are selling will still go to TSA

4. If the money is in TSA who should be held accountable?

5. With reference to point 4 above, have you about "visitation panels"? Can you guess why the FG is refusing the release the report of the visitation panels that went to all federal universities?