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Travel / Re: Secondary School Girl In Anambra Crushed By A Bus On Her Way To School (Graphic) by sunntrost(m): 11:45am On Oct 17, 2017
Oh my God, what a sad news.. May God gives the parents the fortitude to bear the loss.

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Religion / Re: Pastorship Not From God by sunntrost(m): 10:42pm On Sep 11, 2017
Let them come, I am waiting
Religion / Pastorship Not From God by sunntrost(m): 6:31pm On Sep 11, 2017
The ordination of pastors is of men and not of God.

Frustrated by the magnitude of the miracles attending Jesus’ ministry, the chief priests and religious elders of the Jews challenged him in the temple. They demanded to know by what authority he was doing the things he was doing and who it was who gave him the authority.

In his reply, Jesus presents a dichotomy between what is of God and what is of men. He asks them: “The baptism of John- where was it from? From heaven or from men?” (Matthew 21:25).

The question is loaded. By implication, Jesus maintains what is of God cannot be of men and what is of men cannot be of God. In a similar vein, he told Nicodemus: “That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.” (John 3:6). This dichotomy between God and men finds its most eloquent expression in Jesus’ categorical assertion that: “What is highly esteemed among men is an abomination in the sight of God.” (Luke 16:15).

It is therefore pertinent here to ask the question: is the ordination of pastors today of God or is it of men?

Authority of men

The answer is self-evident: the ordination of pastors is of men and not of God. The ordination of pastors comes not from the teachings of Jesus, the Son of God, but from the writings of Paul, the servant of God.

Paul used an Old Testament scripture as the basis for creating a whole array of ministerial positions in the New Testament church. In his letter to the Ephesians, he cites Psalm 68 as the authority for doing so. With reference to that psalm, he writes: “This is why it says: ‘When he ascended on high, he led captives in his train and gave gifts to men.’” (Ephesians 4:8).

What are the bogus gifts Paul then claims God gave to men? “He himself gave some to be apostles, some prophets, some evangelists, and some pastors and teachers, for the equipping of the saints for the work of ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ.” (Ephesians 4:11-12).

However, on investigation it becomes apparent that Paul’s writing is a deliberate misquote and distortion of the original psalm. Observe the difference in the original: “When you ascended on high, you led captives in your train; you received gifts from men, even from the rebellious- that you, O LORD God, might dwell there.” (Psalm 68:18).

Can you see the distortion? The psalmist says men gave gifts to the Lord. Paul, in quoting the psalmist, changes this to say the Lord gave gifts to men.

Authority of Paul

Paul wanted to create posts in the churches he established so as to bring them more effectively under his control. So he twisted an Old Testament scripture to make it seem as if it was the Lord who authorised it. As a result today, there are people who insist that the Lord has called them to be evangelists, pastors or teachers; not knowing that Jesus did not establish any of these positions under the New Testament.

In creating these posts, which have since spawned many others such as Popes, Arch-Bishops, and Right-Reverends, Paul enshrined the spirit of the Pharisee in the heart of Christianity, contrary to the teachings of Jesus.

Jesus mocked the pomposity of the Pharisees. He warns that we should not follow their example: “Do not be called ‘Rabbi'; for one is your teacher, the Christ, and you are all brethren. Do not call anyone on earth your father; for one is your Father, he who is in heaven. And do not be called teachers; for one is your teacher, the Christ.” (Matthew 23:8-10).

Observe here that Jesus permits no differentiation among men. He says: “you are all brethren.” I like Eugene Peterson’s translation of the same verse in the Message Bible. He says “you are all classmates.” That means we are all equal. The pope is no different from the lay Catholic. The arch-bishop is the classmate of the members of the laity. None is higher or lower than the other. So how can some classmates are now calling themselves teachers?

Nevertheless, Paul goes ahead anyway to establish not only teachers upon teachers, but a whole set of apostles, prophets, evangelists and pastors as well. And to add insult to injury, he tells Timothy that Jesus himself called him to be teacher, the very post Jesus expressly warns us not to arrogate to ourselves: “I was appointed a preacher and an apostle- I am speaking the truth in Christ and not lying- a teacher of the Gentiles in faith and truth. (1 Timothy 2:7).

But Paul was lying. Jesus does not appoint teachers. Jesus is not a hypocrite; he does not contradict himself. To repeat for emphasis, this is what the Lord says: “Do not be called teachers; for one is your teacher, the Christ.” (Matthew 23:10).

If Jesus maintains we should not be called “teachers” and insists he alone is our teacher, he could then not have called Paul to be “a teacher to the Gentiles in faith and truth.”

Authority of Jesus

Jesus discourages honorific titles and warns that he who exalts himself shall be humbled. He tells his disciples that none of them is greater in status than the other. This means that a pastor does not have any authority over the members of his congregation. He is not their head. He cannot lord it over them. Jesus warns: “Don’t set people up as experts over your life, letting them tell you what to do. Save that authority for God; let him tell you what to do. (Matthew 23:9).

The Father is the source of all authority and from the Father it flows to Jesus, the Son. Where does it go from the Son? Does it go to the pastor, the bishop, the pope, the husband or the government? No! All authority remains with Jesus. Jesus says: “All authority has been given to me in heaven and on earth.” (Matthew 28:18).

Jesus did not transfer his authority to his disciples or to the church administration. The flow of authority is direct without mediation from Jesus to the believer. Jesus remains today the only pastor we have. David says: “The Lord is my pastor, I have all I need.” (Psalm 23:1).

What are we to conclude from this? All those who call themselves pastors are followers of Paul and not followers of Jesus. Their authority is not from heaven but from men. That is one more reason why all pastors are bad shepherds. Wittingly or unwittingly, they disobey expressly the voice of Jesus.

This is dangerous because eternal life is in the words of Jesus. (John 6:68-69). The church belongs to Jesus. Therefore, his words are the only acceptable basis of church doctrine.

The Holy Spirit does not speak on his own authority; he only says what he hears. (John 16:13-15). Not so with pastors. Jeremiah observes with amazement that they are answerable to no one but themselves: “A horrible and shocking thing has happened in the land: The prophets prophesy lies, the priests rule by their own authority, and my people love it this way.” (Jeremiah 5:30-31).
Crime / Re: 3 Police Officers Killed At Bayelsa Police Station By Gunmen by sunntrost(m): 4:18pm On Sep 05, 2017
Johngla:
If them kill police i no dey pity them na useless people them be
Can all policemen useless as you claimed? Mind you, am very sure you have a relative, friends or siblings who is a police officer

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Travel / Re: Trailer Rams Into A Building In Kirikiri Area Of Lagos. Photos by sunntrost(m): 12:14pm On Jul 17, 2017
Thank God, no lives is lost. Trailer drivers are something else.
Education / Re: What You Must Know Before You Apply For HND Programme by sunntrost(m): 3:33pm On Jan 30, 2016
Thanks for the information.

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Politics / Re: Kogi: Olumoroti Rejects Running Mate Offer by sunntrost(m): 10:06am On Dec 03, 2015
The supplementary poll slated for Saturday was a declaration of ethnic war against the Okun people of Kogi State.“It is immoral to bring Yahaya Bello, who worked against the party, to reap the work of Audu and Faleke. APC has shown that it is worse than PDP andwe will fight this case with the last drop of our blood.[b][/b]

Faleke who is a joint ownership of November 21st votes with late Audu should step into his boss shoes. Nothing more.

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Crime / Re: Biafra: Police Warns MASSOB And IPOB, As Protesters Kill American Returnee, Burn by sunntrost(m): 6:45am On Dec 03, 2015
Time will tell. There was a country.
Politics / Re: Bola Ahmed Tinubu, Nigeria's Most Powerful Politician - Onyebuchi Ememanka by sunntrost(m): 9:52am On Nov 20, 2015
The truth and nothing but the truth. Either you take it or leave. Ask Goodluck Jonathan and Olusegun Obasanjo they will explain better.

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Politics / Re: Ex-Minister Of Education Olaiya Oni Dies 72 by sunntrost(m): 5:55am On Oct 19, 2015
dyn1800:
RIP. ..... But which administration cos I never heard of a minister with such name

Abdulsalam Abubakar regime.
Phones / Re: Top 6 Amazing Thing An Android Device Can Do Using OTG Cable [images] by sunntrost(m): 10:37am On Oct 12, 2015
I need it, how can I get one
Crime / Re: 5 Facts You Didnt Know About The Famous Ikeja Bomb Blasts by sunntrost(m): 8:50am On Oct 12, 2015
Rip to the dead
Religion / Re: The World Will End Tomorrow - Christian Group Predicts by sunntrost(m): 9:36pm On Oct 06, 2015
missKiffy:
I want to believe nobody knows when the world will end

No, that is not what the Bible teaches. The churches false teaching that God cannot make it known unto His elect when He returns is the big lie and God has allowed Satan to use such false teachings to know the roughly two billion Christians who remained in the church and are all unsaved in a strong delusion.

The Bible says the elect WILL know when Christ returns.

Noah knew:

Genesis 7:4 For yet seven days, and I will cause it to rain upon the earth forty days and forty nights; and every living substance that I have made will I destroy from off the face of the earth.

Abraham knew:

Genesis 18:17 And the LORD said, Shall I hide from Abraham that thing which I do;

Lot knew:

Genesis 19:12 And the men said unto Lot, Hast thou here any besides? son in law, and thy sons, and thy daughters, and whatsoever thou hast in the city, bring them out of this place:
13 For we will destroy this place,

Jesus likens His coming to the days of Noah and Lot:

Matthew 24:37 But as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

Luke 17:29 But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all.
30 Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.

Noah & Lot knew in advance concerning God's judgment.

The Ninevites knew:

Jonah 3:4 And Jonah began to enter into the city a day's journey, and he cried, and said, Yet forty days, and Nineveh shall be overthrown.

God says His servants will know:

Amos 3:7 Surely the Lord GOD will do nothing, but he revealeth his secret unto his servants the prophets.

The heart of the wise will know:

Ecclesiastes 8:5 Whoso keepeth the commandment shall feel no evil thing: and a wise man's heart discerneth both time and judgment.

True seekers of the LORD will know:

Proverbs 28:5 Evil men understand not judgment: but they that seek the LORD understand all things.

The wise will know the information revealed at the end:

Daniel 12:9 And he said, Go thy way, Daniel: for the words are closed up and sealed till the time of the end.
10 Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand.

The brethren will know and therefore not be overtaken as a thief:

1 Thessalonians 5:4 But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief.

God's elect will watch and therefore have knowledge (know) of Christ's coming:

Revelation 3:If therefore thou shalt not watch, I will come on thee as a thief, and thou shalt not know what hour I will come upon thee.

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Forum Games / Re: Who Caught The Fish?(photo) by sunntrost(m): 4:48pm On Oct 05, 2015
The 3rd gut caught the fish
Religion / What Did Jesus Mean By Saying "It Is Finished? " by sunntrost(m): 7:46am On Oct 03, 2015
“When Jesus had received the sour wine, he said, ‘It is finished!’ And bowing his head, he gave up his spirit.” (John 19:30).

It is finished with what? What exactly did Jesus achieve in three years of ministry? How many people were saved? How many were healed? Jesus’ entire ministry did not go beyond a 200-mile radius. Jesus never came to Africa or to the Americas or to Australia. At the end of his ministry, many remained sick. Many remained untouched. Most rejected his gospel. The Jews remained Jewish. The Romans crucified him.

John the Baptist proclaimed Jesus as: “the Lamb who takes away the sin of the world.” (John 1:29). However, at the end of his ministry, the world remained mired in sin. Murderers continued to kill; liars continued to tell lies; armed robbers continued to pillage; “pen robbers” continued to defraud. Clearly, Jesus’ ministry can be labelled a failure simplistically because his right-hand man betrayed him, all his disciples deserted him, and the Jews, the very people he came for, asked for him to be crucified.

So what did Jesus mean by saying: “it is finished?”
Crime / Re: Police Corporal Shoots Tricyclist, Kills Mother Of Four Over N100 by sunntrost(m): 8:59pm On Sep 17, 2015
Oh my God. This is too much

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Crime / Re: BREAKING: Five Killed As Explosion Rocks Port Hacourt by sunntrost(m): 8:55pm On Sep 17, 2015
God have mercy
Jobs/Vacancies / Recruitment Into Nigeria Police Force Yet To Commence by sunntrost(m): 6:35am On Aug 22, 2015
RECRUITMENT OF 10,000 POLICE YET TO BEGIN

Following the approval for recruitment of 10,000 Police officers by the President, Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces, Muhammadu Buhari, the Nigeria Police wishes to inform the general public that recruitment into the Force is yet to commence.

The modalities for the recruitment are being worked out with the Police Service Commission and would be announced in due course.

The general public is hereby warned to beware of online fraudsters who may take advantage of the recruitment information to defraud them of their hard earned money.

The Nigeria Police Force will adequately advertise on all forms of media (Televisions, Newspapers, etc) when the recruitment commences. You can also visit the Police website on www.npf.gov.ng for necessary information.

CP EMMANUEL C.S. OJUKWU, psc
FORCE PUBLIC RELATIONS OFFICER
FORCE HEADQUARTERS
ABUJA

Nairaland / General / Re: This Was Killed In My Compound Tonight (pics) by sunntrost(m): 6:31am On Aug 22, 2015
This is ain't grass cuter. It's Rat.
Crime / Re: Pastor’s Daughter Dies As Arsonists Set Church On Fire by sunntrost(m): 7:16am On Apr 08, 2015
Very barbaric.
Jokes Etc / What Is Politics? by sunntrost(m): 5:25am On Apr 02, 2015
A little boy goes to his dad and asks, "What is politics?"

Dad says, "Well son, let me try to explain it this way: I'm the breadwinner of the family, so let's call me capitalism. Your Mom, she's the administrator of the money, so we'll call her the Government. We're here to take care of your needs, so we'll call you the people. The nanny, we'll consider her the Working Class. And your baby brother, we'll call him the Future. Now, think about that and see if that makes sense,"

So the little boy goes off to bed thinking about what dad had said. Later that night, he hears his baby brother crying, so he gets up to check on him. He finds that the baby has severely soiled his diaper. So the little boy goes to his parents' room and finds his mother sound asleep. Not wanting to wake her, he goes to the nanny's room. Finding the door locked, he peeks in the keyhole and sees his father in bed with the nanny. He gives up and goes back to bed. The next morning, the little boy says to his father, "Dad, I think I understand the concept of politics now." The father says, "Good son, tell me in your own words what you think politics is all about." The little boy replies, "Well, while Capitalism is screwing the Working Class, the Government is sound asleep, the People are being ignored and the Future is in deep shit."

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Politics / Re: Your Wish-list From GMB Govt by sunntrost(m): 5:20am On Apr 02, 2015
1.Security (life and properties should be protected)
2 . Electricity (am tired of generator)
3. Employment (an idle hand is a devil workshop)
4. Education
The list are numerous
Politics / Re: Will The SE/SS Vote APC In The Governorship Elections? by sunntrost(m): 5:13am On Apr 02, 2015
Lagosians will vote for APC. PDP can never win Lagos not this time when APC is in central power.
Religion / Re: Pay Tithe From The Money You Got From Gambleing, Right Or Wrong? by sunntrost(m): 8:22am On Feb 09, 2015
Since you know that gambling it self is a sin, you should know that any proceed from it will not be accepted.
Politics / Re: Infrastructural Neglect In Nigerian Barracks by sunntrost(m): 7:24am On Jul 30, 2014
You will be judged according to what you think, say and do. Stop wishing your fellow humans bad. You are even worst than them, so please check yourself before you judge others.

Politics / Re: Awolowo Is Responsible For The Developments In Today's Western States - Clark by sunntrost(m): 9:17pm On Nov 09, 2013
CLARK Is right about PA AWOLOWO. Indeed he is a great man. (the best president Nigeria never had)
Phones / Re: Nokia Asha - Cheap Touchscreen Phones - Launched by sunntrost(m): 8:11am On Jun 08, 2012
mjconcept:
Symbian is an operating system,
providing the native software
platform of the phone. Java is an
virtual machine powered
application framework that runs
on top of the operating system
and, at least in theory, allows
developers to design applications
that can run on any machine,
irrespective of the underlying OS.
An application written directly for
the OS (be it Windows or
Symbian) is faster and more
powerful (access to more low
level features) but will only run
on the system for which it was
designed. A Java application is
slower, more limited in features
and, despite of the initial
promise, will not run on too
many systems either.
Symbian phones are more
preferable to java phones
because of so many reasons.
Most symbian phones has inbuilt
gps (global positioning system)
in them that help's u find ur way
and java phones don't. Java
phones can only receive .jar
and .jad while symbian phones
can recieve .jar, .jad & .sis .
Symbian phones have lager
screens than java phones. So
symbian phones are the best.
[quote][/quote] you are correct indeed!

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