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Dey there now. I don't think Mamdani is bluffing oh

fuckingAyaya:
Them no born your papa well to touch Benjamin Netanyahu

Alot of people really don't like El Rufai. What did this man do? Was he that bad?

Cyprian221:
I can’t see anything stringent here

But I know that even the state government have been warn to stay away from Elrufai’s case or else as well as every other prominent person that want to put head

If not for anything else, I love Tinubu for dealing with Elrufai, that man is evil and he feel he is untouchable

If he said "Oh I wiretapped Obama or Macron too" would you have believed him then too? Not everything people say are true. Maybe he did actually wiretap them but maybe he didnt so wouldnt it make sense to find out the truth before already punishing him like its guilty? What happened to innocent until proven guilty? Take him to court and give him a fair trial and punish him if he broke the law.

dederocs:
That wiretapping is serious offences...he said it himself, of course you will be taken for what you said.

Abi o. Make nobody complain then.

Tenses:
When e reach tinubu's turn, by that time hell rufia will be EFCC boss nobody should talk when his bail Condition drop...

1. Birth certificate
2. School leaving
3. SS2 results
4. 2 secondary school classmate
5. Chicago university transcript
6. A two days visit to America
7. All he's children's birth certificate

Which one is this one again? Lmao

I thought the bail conditions are significantly worse than this? Didn’t they require a civil servant of level 16 and above and who has a house in maitama? And a letter from some traditional ruler that is most likely not going to be receptive to him. It’s like telling Obasanjo that the only way he can get bail is to get a letter from Ayo Fayose. That one na bail condition?

e reach to weep oh. We need to work on Nigeria seriously.

From Mercedes Cars To Abuja Duplexes: How The Judiciary Lost Its Sense Of Shame

A salary is a transparent, statutory right that every civil earns and absolutely deserves after doing the job. A multibillion naira Abuja mansion with a C-of-O processed in a judge's personal name is a discretionary handout specifically given to a select few people who have direct influence over cases involving the federal government. Those houses don’t go the staff of those judges.

Wike literally called them “retirement gifts from President Bola Tinubu." When the Executive branch sidesteps the judiciary's autonomous budget to hand-deliver private land titles to individual judges who rule on their cases, it is an institutional conflict of interest.

Wrap it in the word "welfare" all you want, but it's classic executive capture and a clear bribe as Baba Ahmed said. Keep your long essays; the reality is clear to everyone. Done with the back and forth.

CharlesCNG:
My brother, calling an argument “malaria infested” does not cure the fever in your own logic. 😁

Point one: if your argument is now that the money should pass through judiciary budget lines, fine. That is a procurement/process argument, not proof of bribery.

Point two: “control and disbursement of judiciary funds” does not mean the NJC becomes a property developer. Funds can be appropriated, released, supervised and audited without pretending the NJC should be laying blocks.

Point three: stop saying “frequent litigant” as if it is a discovery. The Federal Government is always a litigant. If that alone disqualifies it from funding judicial welfare, then it should not pay judges’ salaries, pensions, security or court infrastructure either.

Point four: if your real concern is permanent CofO ownership, argue that specific point. I may even agree that official quarters tied to office are cleaner than permanent private transfer. But that still does not make all judicial housing a bribe.

Point five: “judges are well paid” compared to who? A judge handling election petitions and billion-naira disputes should not be measured by ordinary civil-service comfort.

So let us be honest: you have shifted from “bribe” to “procurement concerns” to “CofO concerns.” Those are different debates.

As the proverb says: “A man who keeps changing his road should not accuse others of missing the destination.”

Judicial welfare is valid.

Transparency is necessary.

But hysteria is not constitutional analysis.

This is not funny. You are still fighting a ridiculous battle. It doesn’t make sense. You know it doesn’t make sense but you’re still arguing over it. Someone is blatantly bribing judges that should be impartial and the judges are gleefully accepting it and you’re online defending it. I hope your future self looks at you in awe at how intelligent you are.

Nobody said the NJC should buy cement. You're intentionally missing or trying to obfuscate the point: the NJC controls the Judiciary's autonomous budget, which is funded directly through a top line Charge on the Consolidated Revenue Fund. You know this or should know this. The constitution set it up this way precisely so the Judiciary could handle its own capital procurement independently from the Executive branch.

Yet, the Executive bypasses this autonomy by allocating these housing funds through the FCT Administration's budget. Why? Because it allows them to turn an institutional right into a personal political favor.

Wike's words: "This is the approval of Mr. President... as they are retiring, the property becomes their own, and that is why we issued the CofOs in their names." He explicitly called them "retirement gifts from President Bola Tinubu." So this is a gift. A gift to a judge who is presiding over your cases is a bribe. Call a spade a spade.

When the President and his minister hand-deliver private, multi-billion naira land assets to individual judges as personal "gifts" rather than letting the judiciary procure them via statutory allocation, it is a conflict of interest. If you can't distinguish between independent institutional funding and a direct real estate handout from a frequent litigant, the problem is your reasoning, not our imagination.

You are trying to obfuscate yeye but unfortunately yeye smells.

https://www.thisdaylive.com/2025/10/14/wike-judges-residences-are-retirement-gift-from-tinubu/

CharlesCNG:
Thank you for your concern about my bank account. I regret to inform you that nobody has paid me. 😁

Now to your argument.

First, the NJC does not manufacture cars or build houses. Its role is administration and disbursement, not real estate development.

Second, your comparison is false. A private litigant secretly buying judges houses, flights and cars is bribery. Government-provided institutional welfare approved through public processes is not.

Those two things are as different as a salary and a brown envelope.

Third, you keep saying "frequent litigant" as though it is a revelation. The Federal Government is always a frequent litigant. By your logic, it should stop paying judges' salaries and funding court buildings too.

Fourth, if your concern is procurement architecture or permanent CofOs, fine. That is a legitimate debate. But that is not the same thing as bribery.

And finally, thank you for worrying about "the destruction of the country."

The country will survive disagreement.

What destroys countries is the inability to distinguish between welfare and corruption.


And please, if they ever pay me, I promise to return the money right after you return the imagination that produced this argument. 😂

Show me were?

chopnaira:
Yes he did.
More below.

Houses and cars. We dont call Obi Gbajue for no reason. He would be acting like he is different from the others lmao..

It’s so obvious! And you have people on nairaland unabashedly defending this impunity. God will reward everyone based on their deeds.

Breaker001:
We all know this houses are "bribes" in disguise. And the resultant effect can be seen in the likes of Lifu "rushing" to force INEC to deregister opposition political parties, even when there was an Appeal Court order against such verdict. And sadly, many more of such are coming, unless... 😎

How? I think the Judges should reject this gifts. And publicly come and and prove to Nigerians that their independence has not been compromised.

Parachoko:
The joke is on you 🤡

Did Obi give it to them as personal cars or are they cars for government functions? Those cars still have government plate numbers and were likely repossessed after they left office.

This is not similar to what the Tinubu government is doing here. The government is giving the judges the CofO.

So the above is gaslighting at its finest!

chopnaira:
This reminds me of when Obi was buying cars and other luxury items for Anambra State justices.

No it is not. Go read up on it.

MarketDispatch:
It is the fundamental responsibility of the executive to build house and quarters for judges..

Even the Wike that’s using our tax money to do free giveaway to judges, does he get free land and mansion from the government?

You wrote all this heavy oyibo/queens English just to completely dodge the most critical fact of this entire conversation.
1. The Private CofO nonsense: You keep trying to sound smart by comparing these mansions to standard salaries, pensions, or office desks. Judges earn salaries…they do not earn free mansions from the executive branch. They need office desks to work…they do not need free mansions to work. Why do they deserve salary annnd free mansion?

That's a massive false equivalence. There’s news online that Wike unabashedly hands over the CofO of the houses to the judges on national tv. So these luxury potentially bugged mansions are issued directly in the personal names of these individual judges for permanent private ownership.

A judge's salary doesn't buy them a lifetime luxury estate in Abuja. Comparing a massive, real estate asset transfer to standard statutory welfare is the real absurdity here. The National Assembly (representing the people) appropriates funds to all 3 branches of government (national assembly, executive, judiciary) but the executive branch turns around to use its own allocation to build mansions for judiciary. How does that make sense? Could it be that they are doing it because they frequently want favorable treatment from that said arm of government?

2. Autonomous Procurement: Nobody said the judiciary should collect taxes or print money. The public treasury funds the entire government, but the Executive doesn't physically award contracts, construct, and hand out private houses to legislators, do they? The National Assembly gets its statutory allocation and handles its own internal procurement.

CharlesCNG:
My brother, please stop abusing the word "gaslighting." Disagreeing with you is not gaslighting. The word has become the intellectual equivalent of a smoke bomb: throw it when the arguments become inconvenient.

Now to your points.

First, separation of powers does not mean separation of funding. If it did, the judiciary would collect taxes, issue bonds and generate revenue independently. That is not how constitutional democracies work. The three arms are separate in function, not in the source of public finance.

Second, you say the judiciary should "build or buy whatever they need themselves." With what? The judiciary does not print money. It receives appropriations from the same public treasury that funds the Executive and Legislature.

Third, your argument about bugged houses and secret cameras is astonishing. We have now left constitutional law and entered the realm of spy movies. By that logic, judges should not use official cars, official phones or official offices because microphones might be hidden there too.

Fourth, if the houses are tied to office and acquired through lawful public processes, they are institutional provisions, not personal gifts from Bola Tinubu or Nyesom Wike. The President does not withdraw money from his personal account to buy judges mansions.

Fifth, your argument proves too much. If official residences compromise judges, then salaries compromise judges. Pensions compromise judges. Security details compromise judges. At some point, your theory collapses into absurdity.

Finally, separation of powers was never intended to mean hostility between the branches of government. It means checks and balances, not economic isolation.

As the proverb says:

"A man who fears rain should not suspect every cloud of conspiracy."

Institutional integrity is important.

But institutional paranoia is not constitutionalism.

And no, disagreeing with you is not gaslighting.

It is simply disagreeing with you.

The constitution as amended in 1999 set up NJCs funding precisely so the Judiciary wouldn't have to go to beg the President or his ministers for money, cars, or buildings or luxury houses.

NJC is directly funded by the federation to manage all capital and recurrent expenditures for federal courts, the money to build judicial housing already belongs to the Judiciary. By having the executive branch step in, withhold those infrastructure funds from the judiciary's direct control, and use the FCT Ministry to build and hand out personal CofO luxury mansions, they are completely hijacking a process that should be handled independently through the NJC's statutory allocation. It is a deliberate choice calculated to foster personal dependence on the Executive branch instead of upholding institutional autonomy.

Does Akpabio ask minister Wike for free duplex? Have other ministers received free duplex? Are they also not part of the government? People should really stop defending this nonsense

And no one is saying the 3 co equal branches of government need to be hostile to each other. What Nigerians are saying is making one branch subservient or subordinate to the executive branch should never happen.

CharlesCNG:
My brother, please stop abusing the word "gaslighting." Disagreeing with you is not gaslighting. The word has become the intellectual equivalent of a smoke bomb: throw it when the arguments become inconvenient.

Now to your points.

First, separation of powers does not mean separation of funding. If it did, the judiciary would collect taxes, issue bonds and generate revenue independently. That is not how constitutional democracies work. The three arms are separate in function, not in the source of public finance.

Second, you say the judiciary should "build or buy whatever they need themselves." With what? The judiciary does not print money. It receives appropriations from the same public treasury that funds the Executive and Legislature.

Third, your argument about bugged houses and secret cameras is astonishing. We have now left constitutional law and entered the realm of spy movies. By that logic, judges should not use official cars, official phones or official offices because microphones might be hidden there too.

Fourth, if the houses are tied to office and acquired through lawful public processes, they are institutional provisions, not personal gifts from Bola Tinubu or Nyesom Wike. The President does not withdraw money from his personal account to buy judges mansions.

Fifth, your argument proves too much. If official residences compromise judges, then salaries compromise judges. Pensions compromise judges. Security details compromise judges. At some point, your theory collapses into absurdity.

Finally, separation of powers was never intended to mean hostility between the branches of government. It means checks and balances, not economic isolation.

As the proverb says:

"A man who fears rain should not suspect every cloud of conspiracy."

Institutional integrity is important.

But institutional paranoia is not constitutionalism.

And no, disagreeing with you is not gaslighting.

It is simply disagreeing with you.

Oga - Your attempt to play smart by saying "the NJC is not a construction company" is a malaria infested argument. Im sure you went to school and I’m sure you know that nobody said the NJC should buy cement and lay blocks. You literally listed their function yourself:
control and disbursement of judiciary funds."

If Tinubu and Wike wanted a truly independent judiciary, those multi-billion naira housing funds would be moved directly into the judiciary's autonomous budget. The head of the Court of Appeal would award the contracts and manage the procurement.

Instead, the Executive (via Wike and the FCTA) chooses to hold the cash, award the contracts, build the luxury estates, and physically hand over the keys as discretionary gifts to the judges.

You keep hiding behind the word "welfare" to justify a compromised institutional structure. It’s not welfare. Judges are very well paid! And a lot of them hold jobs for a very long time in a Nigeria where it’s hard to get jobs so they have job security. So don’t bring up that welfare nonsense.

When a frequent litigant (the Executive) directly controls and gifts luxury properties to the people meant to judge them, it is a conflict of interest, full stop. Quit making excuses for the government that put Nigeria in bad shape and face the constitutional reality.

Legislators don’t get free mansions as soon as they become senators. Ministers don’t get free mansions as soon as they become ministers. Only the president gets to live in Aso rock with his team but it’s still not a free house with CofO to the president. So only these judges get free mansion with clear CofO just for being a judge in a court of law where the federal government frequently goes to. Shameful.

CharlesCNG:
I am sorry but you are confidently wrong.

The NJC is not a construction company. It does not build judges’ houses, procure official quarters, award housing estates or manufacture vehicles.

The NJC’s core constitutional functions are appointment recommendations, discipline, removal processes, control and disbursement of judiciary funds. It is also involved in pensions/gratuities for retired federal judicial officers. Its powers are set out under Paragraph 21 of Part I of the Third Schedule to the 1999 Constitution.

So saying “let them get houses through NJC” sounds neat, but it misunderstands how government infrastructure works.

Also, comparing official judicial residences to “frequent litigants buying judges gifts” is a false equivalence. A litigant secretly buying a judge a car is bribery. Government providing institutional accommodation tied to judicial office is welfare.

One is private inducement.

The other is public institutional provision.

If you cannot distinguish between the two, then the problem is not the house; it is the reasoning.

Judges should not collect gifts from litigants. Agreed.

But judges should also not be left economically vulnerable in the name of fake purity.

Judicial independence is protected by transparent welfare, not by poverty.

There’s already a more independent way of granting them their benefits! Giving them free duplex is not “their benefit”. They are not entitled to free duplex from the executive branch.

Flangelo12:
I agree.

There should be a more independent way of granting them their benefits.

Misterone:
Wike is the FCT minister. Even with all these rubbish, Tinubu is still winning 2027 election

Also what exactly do you call rubbish? People complaining about the blatant subversion of the judiciary?

Misterone:
Wike is the FCT minister. Even with all these rubbish, Tinubu is still winning 2027 election

In a free and fair election he should not win because the suffering in the land is just too much. Don’t let them gaslight you into thinking your votes don’t count. They should count.

NJC is supposed to do it for the judges not directly from the executive branch. Which branch of government gives houses directly to its members?

Even legislators don’t get CofO of their quarters unless or until the legislature sells those properties to them. Wike is handing CofO directly to the judges right from the get go. So they are gifts.

Gifting luxury homes to a judge, any judge, creates a tough situation for that said judge to be impartial. If 40 vs 4000 is your argument then can start small by gifting other people the same welfare but on a smaller scale. Build them room and parlor and dash them. They’ll take too.

That’s an absurd argument. Please don’t support someone using your tax dollars to clearly curry favor from the judiciary. If you sue the government the same judge that received those houses would preside over your case. You would think they would do the honorable thing and recuse themselves from the case? No they would preside over that case and you, the individual, would expect a fair judgement?

Think of these things carefully people!

Menclothing1:
Judges no reach 40 all over
Doctors are over 40000
Judiciary is an arm of government
Only executive legislators and feeding fat b4
When we have 3 arm

All arm of government should hv government quarters

NJC is supposed to do these welfare things for the judiciary, not the executive branch. Have you heard of the judiciary building and gifting houses to the legislative branch? Or the judiciary building houses to the executive branch? Stop defending this nonsense please

Flangelo12:
3 tiers of power.

You want the executive to abandon the judiciary?

Haba!!

Kanwulia:
Meanwhile 55,000 doctors only for over 200 million Nigerians without houses of their own. This life ehn?😂

And people are here defending this nonsense

If the new houses to the judiciary are bugged then we are finished. Are they bugged? What if the executive branch is doing this to completely capture the judiciary then which branch would become the last hope of the common man? To be fair, if I were the president…and I want to be a dictator, the first thing I would do is capture the courts so no one would issue any unfavorable rulings. Then next thing is make the National Assembly super docile and completely subservient to me and my cronies. Nigerians really need to start seeing Nigeria as their own cherished property.

There’s NJC. If judges want cars they can get it through them. Imagine if frequent litigants start buying houses and cars and flights and expensive gifts for judges, how would you feel? Please don’t defend this nonsense.

If they paid you to defend them please go give it back to them because it’s not worth the destruction of the country you love.

CharlesCNG:
My brother, thank you for reading my "epistles." At least unlike some comments, they contain arguments.

Now to your points.

First, an official residence for judges is not "extravagance." By your logic, military barracks are extravagant. Legislative quarters are extravagant. Presidential villas are extravagant. In every serious country, certain offices come with institutional accommodation.

Second, you say judges are being rewarded "more than they deserve." According to who? A Court of Appeal judge handles election petitions, constitutional disputes and multi-billion-naira cases. You want such a person worrying about rent and landlords?

Third, if a judge's conscience can be bought by an official residence, then your problem is not with the house but with the judge. By the same logic, legislators and ministers should be incapable of scrutinizing the executive because they too enjoy official perks.

Fourth, your "what about doctors, soldiers, police and teachers?" argument is a classic case of false choice. Improving judges' welfare does not require worsening that of others. In fact, I support better welfare for doctors, soldiers, police and teachers too. One good policy is not invalidated because another group also deserves attention.

Finally, I find it amusing that you describe official quarters as "extravagant." Apparently, in your ideal democracy, judicial independence is best protected with leaking roofs and overdue rent notices.


A judiciary weakened by financial vulnerability is far more dangerous than one strengthened by institutional dignity.

And please, if my "epistles" do not hold water, kindly stop drinking from them. 😁

Nice attempt at gaslighting, but you completely missed the point.

My arguments are passionate because I actually want Nigeria to work. Nobody is asking for the judiciary to be impoverished. We, the unbiased Nigerians, are asking for Separation of Powers.

In a proper democracy, the Executive branch doesn't directly manage and hand out luxury real estate to the Judiciary as welfare packages. The judiciary's funds should be statutory and independent so they can build or buy whatever they need themselves. They won’t need Tinubu to approve and build them houses.

Let me break it down to you so you understand why giving houses to judiciary is bad. Who knows if those houses were bugged so the executive branch can completely listen into everything the judiciary does? Who knows if the executive put secret cameras in those homes to track the judges and their families? These are some of the things we Nigerians worry about when we say we want judiciary independence.

When Nyesom Wike and the Presidency act as the direct real estate agents by distributing mansions to judges, it creates a toxic culture of dependence. I heard that the judges get the CofO so that means the houses belong to them even at retirement.

A judge who owes their retirement luxury to the goodwill of the Executive cannot be trusted to be fully impartial when that same Executive is a party or litigant in the same courts the judges preside over. So my friend, its about institutional integrity, not poverty.

CharlesCNG:
Your argument sounds emotionally appealing, but it collapses under scrutiny.

First, you have quietly moved from "bribery" to "average Nigerians are suffering." These are two different arguments. The existence of poverty does not mean institutions should be weakened. By that logic, we should abolish legislators' salaries, military barracks and presidential security because many Nigerians are poor.

Second, you speak as though judges are receiving secret gifts from Bola Tinubu's personal account. They are not. These are institutional provisions funded through public resources, just like the salaries, vehicles and official residences provided to the Executive and Legislature.

Third, your phrase "free mansion" betrays a misunderstanding. A judge does not become compromised because he occupies an official residence any more than a senator becomes compromised because he lives in legislative quarters.

Fourth, no serious democracy relies on impoverishing judges to guarantee impartiality. Quite the contrary. Mature democracies understand that adequate remuneration and welfare are anti-corruption measures. A desperate judge is easier to intimidate, easier to induce and easier to compromise.

Fifth, gratitude is not the basis of judicial ethics. If judges cannot distinguish between constitutional duty and official welfare, then we have a problem much deeper than housing.

And finally, I find it amusing that some people trust judges with election petitions involving trillions of naira, but suddenly believe an official residence is enough to buy their conscience.

That says more about their view of judges than it does about the houses.

As the proverb says:

"You do not strengthen the roof of a house by removing its pillars."

A vulnerable judiciary is not an independent judiciary.

Poverty is not judicial reform.

And welfare is not bribery.

I just googled it and it looks like they get CofO of the houses! Wow. So it’s their own. It belongs to the judges. This is insane.

adenigga:
To add to your stand, at their retirement they will vacate the building then next promoted judge will pack in.

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yarimo:
This is very commendable from the FG

Which other branch of government gets free brandnew housing in FCT?