₦airaland Forum

plaindealer:
Some states are matured and ready to have state police. but many others are not ready and are heavily immature to have state police. I don't see people like Wike in Rivers properly using state police for public good, I see him fighting his enemies and abusing state police for personal use.

Most of the states in Nigeria are poor, many can not even pay workers salary so where is the money for world class facilities going to come from?

Yah as soon as states are matured enough then they should do state police. Lagos is definitely matured enough for it. Even Abuja should have theirs but we can't selectively let states have their own police system otherwise it won't be fair.

We are not asking for world class facilities although it would be nice, all we are asking for is the basic things. Road, water, electricity and security. Simple things, not rocket science. Airport is a luxury to some states def. Port Harcourt airport is still an eyesore but they have a lot of money; this is just an example of bad leadership. So its not about being poor, its about good governance and managing resources well.

plaindealer:
Aggressive taxation and collection raised the state's tax receipt from N500 million per month to N30 billion per month in less than 10 years so the issue is not inability to generate tax money, it's over taxation and un-taxable population of non working or productive people.

Lagos is a unique state in Nigeria because it's the only state every Nigerian sees as their last safety net and opportunity to survive and make a decent living and they all troop into Lagos in thousands every day with no where to live, no source of income and no prospect of employment, but they all cramped up inside Lagos, they overstretch the resources and meager infrastructure.

Lagos is practically shouldering the burden of all the failed states in Nigeria and when the state officials ask and beg for special status and extra resources, they strike and vote them down. I guess they are too shortsighted or just blind to the fact that Lagos is not only shouldering their burden, but also is the country's golden goose apart from oil. As a society, we can not have it both ways.



It was a perfect comparison, $3 billion is nothing in a state like Lagos state, a state with crumbling and worn down infrastructures. Exactly what do you think they have left after paying down their other statutory obligations and spending on other major needs around the state? Or you think that $3 billion is just siting there for roads? By the time they get to roads, most of it is gone..

$3 billion in a state like Lagos is chump change.

I do have a solution, but it's the kind of solutions that Nigerians don't like, that they do not understand and wont go for because they have to come out of pocket to pay for it..

Thanks a fantastic jump in IGR even after factoring inflation and currency devaluation. I agree with the points you made about Lagos. It should be getting more resources from the federal government. However I think the federal government should give them just enough to not disadvantage the development of other states. It's a delicate dance, I know, but other states needs to be given the opportunity to grow as well.

$3 Billion is a descent amount for Lagos, they just need to manage it well. Lagos can always work on increasing its IGR in order to get more money to spend capital expenditure or they can reduce recurrent expenditure and spend more on capital expenditure. They can cut down on inflated contracts or even take on the construction of roads themselves rather than subcontracting it to save costs or cut down corruption. Other places in the world do it successfully so it's not rocket science.

As it stands, Lagos state budget has a capital expenditure of N463 billion and a recurrent expenditure of N390 billion. Meaning just a little more than half will be used for capital expenditure which is very bad.

And what solution are you envisioning?

Danwakae:
The state has less role to play , that's why some are calling for DECENTRALIZATION OF POWER , so that state can take care of some of these issues, many also call for star police to allow state take care of their security thereby given opportunity to indigenous people to handle the security of their locality since they understand their locality more than anybody else. for instance an Igbo man is sent to Zamafara community , where he can't communicate with them, he has no idea on community and can't even speaks the language of the people to get information about the locality... Bro, presently , the federal gat all the powers...andmaybe until power is decentralized to enable state police, states to produce power for themselves, states to have large chunk of fund for health care...some people r presently calling for these because they believe the is too much for the federal government...

I don't agree with your argument because the the state/local government is supposed to affect the citizens the most. Nigeria is a federal republic, with executive power exercised by the president. He's the head of a representative democratic framework of a federal, presidential, representative democratic republic. The states have governors who also exercise executive power and should work in tandem with the federal government to solve issues affecting their individual states. The state governors are the heads of a representative democracy in their individual states and should be solving their individual problems. Governors and local government chairmen should also be at the forefront of leading the effort of developing the states/country not just the president.

Nigeria is not matured enough for state police so having a centralized police system is probably the best way to handle the police situation right now. For the most part, those communities in Zamfara will understand pigin English or English so I don't think language is a huge concern here.

States can provide the right incentives for private sector to come in to help them generate power for their citizens for profit. It's not rocket science. We just need to have the will to do it.

States have enough money to provide world class hospitals and healthcare facilities for its citizens, the governors just choose to not do it. So decentralize power won't do much to solve the issues.

bassman007:
A special spot should be reserved for Prof. Benedict Ayade of Cross River State. His annual budget competes with that of the federal government but he ends up doing nothing. All he does is confuse people with big grammar

It's actually now a 3 horse race between Ikpeazu, Bello and Benedict Ayade in that order.

The link to the poll is below:

https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/KG5GCW3

Tsadu001:
Base on my opine, Niger state governor Alh. Sani Bello is the most worst governor.
In terms of;
1. Education 1/10
2. Road construction 0/10
3. Job for the vibrant youths 1/10
4. Security 1/10
5. Power 1/10
Some many things, the only things he does is that he pay salary that's all.

At least he pays salary. Some states just don't even pay. Kogi and Abia state.

So I made an online poll for it! We should make sure the winning governor gets the award.

https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/KG5GCW3

Goodluck voting!

Danwakae:
Bro , U need to learn , that's why we are all here..

The Gov. is NOT the CSO of his state because the the CP reports and take orders from the IG. Even if all the state is burning and the Gov calls the CP, without getting directive from the IG of police, there will be no response to the Gov's calls...it has happened in Lagos, Plateau, Zamafara, Benue, Taraba...name them, forget about insecurity for any state, even in the SouthWest all the states are comming together to solve the insecurity challenges because its beyond a state alone and seems not to caught the attention of the fed govt yet u r here blaming one Gov. . I ve never been to the southeast in my life, and apart from the Python dance, to me, Abia is more safer than Enugu and Ebonyi always in the national dailies for one security issue or the other and I can't blame the Gov because it's a national issue just thesame way I won't blame Gov Zulum of Borno and Matawalle of Zamafara...


In Education , please name any federal primary, secondary, tertiary institution that is doing well , even more than a state even with the amount of money from fed govt ...
Education is a national issue in Nigeria, don't blame those state capitalizing on it... KOGI, Benue, Ekitit , Ondo, OSUN, all got BAIL OUT, but yet are still oweing before and after bail out...who should we blame

Can u pay huge amount for a service and did't get it and yet u fail to take action against those involve ??, Even when u have all the powers to get back ur money ??..


Nigeria is something else despite the blessings with resources...


If Federal works, States must surely work...sip it.

I think we have completely different views on the governors role. So in your view, what is the governor's job if he shouldn't really be too concerned with education, security, healthcare or economy since the situation in Nigeria is bad to begin with?

They should just share the allocation and go home?

plaindealer:
How much is this resources that you people reference all the time?

$3 billion budget for 20 million people to run the state civil service from ministries to agencies, build schools, build hospitals, waste management, complete ongoing major project, pay bills, pay vendors and suppliers and build thousands of damaged roads and so on and on?

Their budget in New York with comparable population and already developed infrastructures is $175 billion.

The problem is not the governor, it's lack of funds do tackle the all the issues on the ground.

I do't even see the sense in judging a less than 4 months administration based on anything.

Well, the governor can work to increase the internally generated revenue and continue working. If he boosts the states economy enough, he can generate more revenue from taxing corporation, employees, and taxes on other activities in the state. So yes, the governor might not be the only problem but they can and should be solving the issues we are discussing here.

Be nice na, you shouldn't compare NY to any state in Nigeria. Maybe Lagos?. Haba In NY, they have a different problem. We are in completely different stages of growth so $3 Billion will probably go a long way for us than $3 Billion there because the incremental improvement per dollar is high here.

Originalsly:
Get which government abroad to provide security? Only like at the UN General Assembly do they get security..... security taking them to the UN... and back to the hotel. Other than that... they ride around in Uber or their ordinary embassy vehicle.

I think the US has a service to protect foreign leaders visiting the US. However I think you might be right in that they don't protect the non-heads of state.

I don't want to get lost in the security/no security back and forth, my point is that we shouldn't resort to violence abroad to solve this problem..

abuhari:
You all forget north western part of our country, were in security already be part of government. Some state refuse already make hills on their main road, no streets light no water,no security No no no they plenty ooooooo. The state governor doing nothing on this.

Drop some names na. Kaduna and Kano are not as bad as some of the states being discussed here.

timesup234:
My governor Okowa is a disaster to mankind

To mankind? Is he worse than Bello or Ikpeazu?

Baselm:
I am sure it's not even close, just that it is difficult to explain in words. In Kogi, a director committed suicide because his wife put to bed,can you beat that? No salary, no pension

Na wah oh. I've been to Kogi a good number of times. And have a lot of close friends from Kogi as well and they can confirm that it's bad.

Hopefully God will touch their hearts in those 2 states oh.

Originalsly:
No doubt... in some places it is wayyy too risky to protest.... but stoning politicians with rotten eggs is also a sign of protest.... they... their cars....their convoys... let them know they stink. Do you think it is easy to remove that stench? Then there is always freedom to do the same when they alight abroad.... that one beat down abroad... do you see them travelling freely now? Fear has gripped them.... a message to do the right thing or your life would be in danger...if not at home... then abroad

Are you envisioning a Cersie-walk-of-shame (Game of Thrones) type of shaming? They should really be doing more.

And for beating them abroad, they can easily get the government of that country to provide security throughout their travels and we won't do anything about it. And I don't even think thats a good way of solving the problem because we've tried violence as a way of solving our problems in Nigeria before and it hasn't worked.

Danwakae:
You are Confused...


Most of your criterias are national issues...imaging u listed insecurity, does a governor have control over the security of his state ??....education and most things u listed there r national issue, a state can only do little...Nigeria.is not working...for me GOV. YAHAYA BELLO is the worst, because he has not done anything(Which am not expecting but) cannot pay workers and yet federal govt. is paying monthly allocation...even if u want to steal money for projects, continue, but altleast pay people working for u their salaries, they have school fees, families feeding, many things to pay , how can a family moan witth wife and children be leaving his house every working days and at the end of the month , has nothing to offer his family and yet the Gov is eating , smilling, sleeping and merry making ??....I beg for Allah's mercy on them

Security situation:

All of those things are the responsibilities of the state in Nigeria. The state governors also gets the title of " Chief Security Officer of the State". We don't have state police in Nigeria but the governors have commissioners of police who they can work with to improve the security situation of their states.

Education:

Primary, secondary and Abia state university is under Abia state control. So is Kogi institutions. How is that Buhari's fault that your governor can't perform?

Paying salaries:

Abia and Kogi owe a lot of money in salaries. Common salaries. Pensions and gratuity is not even included in this oh. They don't treat the retired civil servants well at all. Shame!

Baselm:
you said it all, only that even Ebiras won't vote for him. It is an insult on YAHAYA BELLO to rate another governor worse than he is. He is the worst governor ever, I bet a rat will govern better. He isn't paying salaries, isn't doing projects, demolishing existing infrastructures, killing people. you can't beat that, this is not a matter of potholes. at least Ikpeazu won 2nd term, Yahaya Bello can't win

Wow...this Kogi state matter don pass nairaland issue oh.

It's definitely a very close race between Ikpeazu and Bello right now.

roca47:
the worst is probably cross river... i mean the only highway to and from that state is rendered useless but the man be talking nonsense up and down i.e budget of kinetic crystallization (wtf does that even mean)

You must be joking, state budget for kinetic crystallization?

glink2015:
Most of the opposition party governors play smart by turning their people attention to buhari while they also are not effective...
And the gullible people will not write about the ineffectiveness of their governors, senators and chairman of local government , they will be writing about buhari...
Edo , Delta deserves more than what their governors are giving to them... But their people would not talk

Everyone is busy blaming the president, which is fair but the state governors should take their fair share of the blame as well because they are closer to Nigerian citizens.

Originalsly:
Even if they rig themselves in.... it is for the people to get together and take action to force them out of office or let them fear for their lives. Over the years politicians used thugs to overrun polling stations etc.... the whole communities feared the thugs..... last elections some communities stood up... beat up the thugs... now which thugs can the politicians recruit to operate in those areas?...the thugs are now the ones afraid. The people.have the power to make changes... just that they don't use the power... or do not know the power they have....in unity there is strength....and in strength there is power... power to make a change.

I couldn't agree more with you. However, it's tough to protest in Nigeria, just look at Sowore for example. In a country with proper laws safe guarding protesters, I believe people can protest all day until something happens because there's nothing stronger than the human will.

Originalsly:
The worst governor... did he appoint himself?...or was he voted in by the people of the State? So why blame the governor?....blame the people of the State... they voted him in.... and will vote him in again... and will continue to complain or be begging God to come down and save them... forgetting that God help those that help themselves.

I somewhat agree that heaven helps those who help themselves but rumor has it that a lot of these bad governors rigged themselves in. Bribery and corruption is still rampant in the country so anything can happen.

We need to hold our leaders accountable otherwise, no one else will. American or UK won't come and force Ikpeazu or Bello to perform well for its citizens, it has to be citizens of those states.

kerry57:
Yahaya Bello does not a competitor in this field.

You go make Ikepazu vex oh.

jrusky:
Yayah Bello 1st

Yayah Bello 2nd

Yayah Bello 3rd.

Add yours...............

Na wah oh. Kogi people which way na?

Bofoy4:
have u been to Abia state before if not pls keep quiet

Of course I've been there many times! And what does it matter if I've been or haven't been to Abia before? The point I'm trying to make is that Abia is being poorly governed and its shameful. Very shameful.

Abia and Kogi state citizens should go ask their governor to return some of their stolen money back.

utenwuson:
Oma.... Base on stories I read on Nairaland, I was in a but one day from Abuja passing through kogi, I stated with boldness that Abia state governor is the worst in Nigeria, I nearly got mobbed by kogites in the bus, they where seemingly angry that any governor could out do their governor in the worst governor award... Bello is the worst governor in history of mankind not just in Nigeria.

Even if he rig, he won't win, in a fair and a bit credible election, only Ebiras will vote for him despite them feeling the worst hit for his maladminstration and that will just be like 21 percent of the total vote cast

Wahala dey oh. Which kain gbese Abia and Kogi enter naw? For Kogi, he would have won if he were from Igala but thank God he isn't. Please list of of the things Bello does, does he keep 40% of federal allocation all to himself and his cronies? Does he have the worst road network in the entire country? So far he and Okezie Ikpeazu are fighting for the championship.

Ekpeitut:
Y'all haven't been to cross River state lately. Ben Ayade is the worst scam of a governor in the entire south South.

Remember that pot hole shaped like the Nigerian map its one one Governor Ben Ayade's legacy. Cross Riverians have never had it this bad. There's endless bloodletting in communities over land disputes and he is clueless on what to do. He's brother runs the state in his absence. NOTHING is just working in the state just silent looting and acquiring of properties for himself and his cronies.

I actually thought Cross River had a good government/governor. I stand corrected then. How bad is he compared to Kogi and Abia Governors because these 2 guys are really working hard to take home the title of Worst Governor in Nigeria?

mrvitalis:
U mean the governor of this place is the worst ?

Most of the roads u see are markets n Federal road

First of all, that's a lie. Most of the roads in Abia state are state and local roads and all the markets in the state are local markets. Since when did federal government start administering markets?

Where did you download these aerial pictures from? Online? I'm sure many people can provide pictures to confirm that Abia state is the worst of the worst when it comes to infrastructure. Looks like Kogi Governor is winning based on everything else.

2RUTHHURTS:
Pls argue base on this

Okay. Abia gets ~N5 Billion monthly as federal allocation. Governor do nothing gets 22% of that as security vote alone. Let's assume the security vote he's getting is legal, which it is according to Nigerian law, it probably pales in comparison to how much he pays himself and his cronies in government. So let's say all in all, the governor takes 1 Billion + another 1 Billion in salaries and other personal/government expenses monthly. That will be 2 billion/5 billion = 40% of the federal allocation! In what world is that okay?

In what world is it okay for one man to take that much of the states resources. Why not be "selfless" and use some of that stolen money to provide basic things like water, electricity and roads? Or better yet, clean up the filthy city?

Houseofglam7:
Oh please STFU
Everyone wants to sound intelligent but no one is willing to tackle the problem head on.

As if this is some new revelation, let's see who has the will to actually fight corruption.

These are still unverified assumptions. Did you measure all the states on these parameters? NO! So, your personal opinion becomes a basis for adjudging states? See attached states allocation for July and see how states ranked. Then you would be in position to check what each state received and what you estimate they could have dome with it and how they are faring.[/quote]My opinions are informed judgements. I measured all states I've visited based on these parameters and yes, Abia was and still is by far the worst. It's very embarrassing actually and downright shameful.

On the July allocation you mentioned, I went ahead and downloaded the August allocation from the federal website and see below:

Total Net Amount (Federal Allocation) Governors Security Vote Amount going to ONE INDIVIDUAL
Abia 4,570,196,229 1,000,000,000 22%

In whose world is one man entitled to ~22% of a state's federal allocation? This amount doesn't include bribe money or the amount the deputy gov, and government "people" take home. Abia and most Nigerian states spend around 75% of their budget on recurrent expenditure and around 25% on "capital expenditure"; how is that sustainable? You and I need to be honest with ourselves here.

A subsection of the economy which depends on government salaries are literally being starved to death in a democratic state in this 21st century.

Kogi is close 2nd.

Validated:
These are still unverified assumptions. Did you measure all the states on these parameters? NO! So, your personal opinion becomes a basis for adjudging states? Yes, absolutely. See attached states allocation for July and see how states ranked. Then you would be in position to check what each state received and what you estimate they could have dome with it and how they are faring. I checked and Abia gets around N4.6BN Naira and probably around N2-5BN on IGR monthly. Where does all that Naira go?

There are other ways of solving Nigeria's problems. When there's a will, there'll be a way. We are just not serious about solving our problems yet. Which country in Africa have developed astronomically after seceding from the "Mother" country? United we stand and divided we fall

Dim08:
Sanwo Olu is the worst Governor Lagos has ever had. He may not be the worst governor in Nigeria but based on past administrators of Lagos state.


All hail Sanwo Olu, the Worst Governor Lagos State Ever Had

Look at this one? lol. Your governor is posh jor. Una no get problem compared to other states.

mrvitalis:
I'm 100% sure u haven't been to abia

How naw? This is my opinion sha. If I'm wrong just prove me wrong, no long thing and I'll be a believer. I've been to a lot of cities/states and Abia state was by far the worst in terms of infrastructure alone. It was quite embarrassing actually. Let's call a spade a spade and not try to sugar coat anything.

The government in Abia State is very poor and that's putting it very lightly. Kogi is 2nd on my list but only because of other reasons.

If these countries shun us, we suppose vex fix our own country so we can shun dem back