₦airaland Forum

Dan1cole:
How can a man who is not even born again be telling you what is right and what is not right in the sight of God?

Smh the donkey which God used was human or born again abi? God can use anyone or anything, besides na you make am born against? Or did he tell you Jesus isn't his lord and saviour? Numbers 22:21-39

well, na their money make them continue them think say dem fit bribe God with 10%

Freeze and his flock isn't against offering. Stop telling lies, he only condemns tithe which is fraud

Tuprelo:
Tithing as a doctrine is wrongly applied. Tithing is good but what do you do with it? EAT,SPEND IT! YOU AND YOUR FAMILY, ORPHANS, WIDOWS, POOR PEOPLE around you.

It has been abolished, same as animal sacrifice and observation of the sabbath.

menxer:
It is called putting things in perspective, jesus said whatsoever you do to the least of these ones, you do unto me. The needy are still among us and they are not the bling bling pastors.

The challenge is using a tenth of your income to help someone get out of poverty, if your pastor falls into that category, so be it.

Lol pastor ke? I dey craze? God forbid me to do such thing

Remmythe:
Things should be done according to the scale of preference Mr....God lays more emphasis on giving alms in d holy books than paying tithes...even the tithes are supposed to be used for d betterment of d life ofdos in abject poverty,for dos people who nids money for medical treatment...bt dis useless self proclaimed men of God diverts d funds to their personal accounts...
Everyday we'll be seeing on news dat somebody nids 1million for some kinda operation...most of ds people attends rich pastors churches...

I'm not against the giving but the tithe against poverty, it could be give or sow against poverty. I worked In the bank, I know how much I saw in the pastors and church accounts, running into billions in Naira and FX. Yet they don't touch these money, and my bank then wasn't even their major bank account, they fix them as fixed deposit and make money.

Smh their points is always full of sentiments, no sculptural backing. God can use anyone, just as God is using Donald Trump to fulfil the prophecy. You don't have to be righteous or born again before God can use you, you don't and can't determine who God will use.

Also, FYI Freeze isn't the one to start this anti tithe of a thing, he only made it popular and gained momentum because of his status. It didn't also start in Nigeria. And I'm certain Freeze read or saw somewhere about tithe being a fraud in the modern day church, made sense to him and he decided to enlighten others.

Nice, my only issue is the theme. You can't be against tithing as a abolished doctrine and still advocate tithe outside the church. Can be any other challenge but tithe

tosyne2much:
The threats about tithing is becoming worrisome but it takes a wise and enlightened person to know that tithing is not a MUST but a CHOICE according to what the Bible has made us to understand (only if you are reading the Bible with stupidity and delusion)

Christianity is beginning to constitute nuisance these days. No one bothers to talk about salvation any longer. It's always about how you're going to live the rest of your life in penury in you don't pay your tithe, how the doors of heaven is going to be shut against you if you fail to pay your tithe, why you should not give N50 as offering, etc.

It's however worthy of note that some religious leaders are robbing members to live luxurious life. If we look at what is happening today, we will see that African pastors are the most flamboyant and financially successful in the world. Religion has created an avenue for a lot of charlatans parading as "men of God" to fleece the poor of their meagre resources just to live in luxurious homes, drive the latest luxury cars, travel to the most exotic holiday destinations with their families,

Only rich people are now recognized in churches. The poor are being marginalized because they don't offer the church money.

God please come down and destroy this country make everybody go rest

Truly, they don't preach about salvation anymore. All they talk about is prosperity, but who's to blame? The pastor's or the congregation. The pastor preaches what they want to hear (money/prosperity) and not what they dont want to hear (repentance) The church in Nigeria is in a competition to have the highest branch network, that's why you will find Redeem, Christ Embassy, Deeper life occupying same building or in the same street. If they are truly after soul winning, the other churches need not establish a branch where the first church did, but as the churches are brands, they (pastors) believe people will choose their church over others

Checked, real profile. Not created recently and he indeed is a pastor.

Make I check him profile first.

Keneeby:
Nobody or pastor curse anybody, it is God that cursed non tithers like you in malachi 3.

So na curse be that? Smh

lafean20:
how e take be their fault, u fut begin dey use ur small money take start something for ur community, even if na to share pencils for primary sch children, live by example and stop blaming men of God for the stupidity and wickednes of our supposed caretakers(government)

Men of money you mean, curse laying men who threaten their congregation with false doctrines

Yawns, makes no sense

Acidosis:
1. Apostle Paul requested for money

(1 Corinthians 16:2, NIV)

Apostle Paul particularly instructed the people to set aside a sum of money that is proportionate to their income. This was a convenient way of collecting the money, that has now become a trend among Christians every Sunday. Is Paul a fat-fed and corrupt Apostle?

2. Jesus watched as the "Sheeple" widow dropped money for corrupt religious leaders but He did not free the "Sheeple"

- Mark 12:41-


At the time Jesus observed the widow's offering, the treasury was managed by corrupt religious leaders, but Jesus did not free the sheeple widow. Nowhere was it mentioned that Jesus instructed her not to give her last penny! Instead Christ was interested in blessing her seed. Ask yourself, would Jesus partake in the #freethesheeple movement if He and the Apostles were around today?

3. If your Pastor sow spiritual things to you, it is right and appropriate to give him those material things you can afford, and Yes, that includes a Jet!

- 1 Corinthians 9:9-14

You seem to forget Jesus personally chased away traders from the temple. Mark 12, 41 you quoted has nothing to do with tithes nor accusations or belief that funds were being misused by the leaders of the temple.

Na yansh be the last picture?

NowisGod109:
On tithes,Bible passages are:Malachi 3:8-12,Heb 7:2-5,Gen 14:19-20 ,Deut 26:12-13.
On seed sowing: Bible passages are: Gen 8:22 ,2nd cor 9:6-7 ,prov 11:24-25, Ecc 11:6.

For faithful tither,their heaven is opened and blessing are released also d devourer is rebuked for their sake.

For those that sow,Luke 6:38.says it will come back in multiple fold.the quality and quantity of what u sow determines what u get in return.

This is command from God for those that is in His will not for those that want to do their own will.

And do you know tithe is not even for everybody because many will pay and it won't be accepted by God because of there ways and mind so God don't mandate this for everybody but for those that want to hear Him as Father giving His children what to do and what not to do

Do you also know tithes are meant for Levites? Do you also know it was practised by the Jewish people? Do you know they have stopped receiving tithes because the temple has been destroyed? Do you also know they won't collect tithe until after the temple has been rebuilt? Do you also know that they are other jewish laws that the criminal pastors are supposed to adhere to if they claim to be Jewish? Laws like sabbath and animal sacrifices? Why single out tithe, because it enriches them. Do you also know the tithe is supposed to be farm produce which you are supposed to eat in the temple amongst the Levites and needy? Do you also know that Jesus Christ has replaced the presitehood and therefore there's no need for tithe. Read your bible, not all that comes from the pulpit is true, their words aren't God's word, God's word can be found in the bible which is in your possession.

Yungkid101:
How often do u read your bible?
Please explain Malachi 3:8-10 for me

Read from chapter 2 not just from chapter 3. Instructions started from chapter 2

NowisGod109:
Tithe is very important. That one the lady is doing is seed sowing not tithe but there are rewards for all, both tithe and seed sowing but the rewards are two different things...

Bible verse please that makes tithe important

Ken4Christ:
Does brain transplant open your heart to receive the truth of God's word? The things of God cannot be understood by the natural man. It takes someone who has the Spirit of God to understand the things of God. So, brain transplant has nothing to do with it. I think you need a spiritual heart surgery - You must be born again and tongue speaking to understand spiritual things.

Smh

cescky:
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Thats My spiritual father


Note: to those who may be truly ignorant and supporting freeze against this man and his likes ...id advise you to desist, note this I've meet freeze before and all he's doing is to garner attention...and consider that if these men of God are right " you'll are fighting against God" if your truly a Christian, recall the Pharisees of Jesus time thought they were fighting for God, of course some way plainly evil and jealous a lot were against Jesus, but couldn't tell why..( where all agents of the dark and light sides..and who we submit to .are we used by them).

If you don't know about a thing, it's best to keep shut, freeze doesn't know the forces behind the scene using him...of course a lot of people aren't Christians, their just church goers and were waiting for the likes of freeze to show their true colors

Matthew 23 vs 9. Any pastor that doesn't rebuke you for calling him daddy In the Lord or spiritual father Is fraud.

Statsocial:
Some might wonder why I post so much about pastors and the church. It is certainly not because I idolise any man whatsoever. Oyedepo, Adeboye and the rest are just Generals in God's Army so unbelievers persecuting them is not an issue.
However we are not oblivious of the strategy of the kingdom of Hell which is to Take aim at the Set men and scuttle the congregation, with congregations scuttled many would relegate out of faith. This is particularly the reason why I no longer get involved in the Tithing debate. The majority of those who are Anti Tithing are not lovers of the Church. You would usually see them say things like "Churches are too much, we need Industries" but a True lover of the Church must first see himself as a Christian and every other thing like Tribe and Nationality comes second hence my church validates your country and not the other way.

I'm using this medium to admonish True lovers of the Church not to fall for the same trap Eve fell for. Do not engage in a conversation where you are unaware of the underlying Motivations of the individual you are debating with. Eve argued with the Devil concerning the things of God. He(devil) was technically right by twisting a concept in his assertion and it led to the fall of man.

In the midst of any noise in the Church, Heaven or Hell must gain. Ask yourself who gains by these noise on Tithing. The Enemy would make you think it is Heaven that would gain just like the Serpent deceived Eve by telling her all she would gain by eating the fruit.

Secondly, know the priorities of Christ and ask yourself if Jesus would be igniting a debate about Tithing in a world where Christians are loosing Faith, Divorce in Church is high and there is Sexual Immorality pervading some Churches.

Lastly, study your Christian faith(or religion) and understand how changes occur in d church. How did we get to correct some doctrinal errors in the church. Did we have to pull Methodist down for Hagin to emerge, did we have to pull Anglican down for Oyedepo to emerge or did we have to pull Apostolic faith down for Kumuyi to emerge. These men came out of these ministries and tried to correct some things yet the ministries they emerged from are spared onslaught. As Christ said "any house standing against itself cannot stand". Hagin did not condemn Methodist for kicking him out when he got big because he knew only the Devil benefits.

Do you know who the signatory to the church accounts and school account is?

Imagine the fraudulent caption self gate way to abundant blessing, so God no dey bless those wey no dey pay tithe abundantly?

Smh why not offering card as well? Not every slave loves freedom, some loves the shackles

Curve 7

Adenuga once told me Pastors Sam Adeyemi, Adeboye, David Oyedepo and Chris Oyakhilome belongs to a cult. How he knows i don't know. Maybe, they invited him to join. On his personal property line, i don't know if the house he resides in Oduduwa street in Ikeja GRA is his or the church.

donnie:
He has given my life a meaning

He has given your life a meaning. Really? Smh

FaniDan:
Really, i pay tithe tithe tithe

Smh well it's your money, you can also keep calling your pastor your spiritual father against Jesus instruction. Have a nice day