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@To my muslim family, especially the sisters who are the poor of potential spouse for Toba: The hadith belong underscore the position of the Messenger [as] as to the people who worship "Saturdays and Sundays":

Umm Salamah claims: "The Prophet used to fast more often on Saturdays and Sundays than on the other days. He would say: 'They are the 'ids of the polytheists, and I love to differ from them.' " This is related by Ahmad, al-Baihaqi, al-Hakim, and Ibn Khuzaimah who called it sahih. (The above hadith might be that he joined saturday and sunday in fasting and not singling out one)

@Toba: « #59 on: Today at 08:35:04 AM »
[Quote]u are deliberately making this discussion boring.[/Quote]This is hypocrisy. You know my mind? What gave this impression?


[Quote] i should be correct to call u too a kufar for not being a christian. isnt that correct?[/Quote]I am a kufar of Nasaraniyan. Or a heathen or Infidel as Timothy called non adherent to his brand.


[Quote] BTW u make a lot of english mistake by calling all non muslims unbelievers. what is unbelief or who is an unbeliever? some one who believes in God is also an unbeliever to you?[/Quote]Islamic unbelievers are unbelievers.


[Quote] pathetic. i took my time in the previous post to explain the concept of trinity to you, but im sure u dont want to read the post in order to get inlined on the concept. i wouldnt talk more. just read my previous post and add 1 corin 15 vs 28. this will help u understand the trinity and pls dont come back here to discuss the trinity with me again[/Quote]Don't get upset, yet. Wait till the father of the bride says to her that she can't marry a keferi. It is haraam, he will tell her, using Quranand Sunnah to educate her and telling you to find your father-in-law somewhere else, if you intend to remain a "disbeliever" in Islamic monotheism. Its always interesting to read the christians whipping out the writings of Paul to explain Jesus. Can't Jesus explains himself? If he is a God in the trinity, should his voice tell us instead of saying that his God is Ellah, above?


[]Quote]so what are u going to do about the yorubas? to be candid most muslims that are willing to marry xtians are yorubas. the yorubas are well cultured and mannered. they think outside the box. sir let me tell u that its not your religion that will take u to God but your xter on earth. learn to start thinking outside religion. the yorubas have the right to do whatever they feel pleases them. ok? we all must not think in the same way. i going to marry the yoruba girl in question and theres nothing anyone's gonna do about that Grin[quote][/Quote]evidently, you refused to notice that I said I am a yoruba. or do you know yoruba muslims better than a yoruba muslim? Tobe. You need to know that thinking out the box is not to say that the box is abandoned, forgotten. The box of Islam is perfect and it is ignorance that will make a person ignore what Muhammad [as] brought; a thing that gives life, making you completely alive. Marry who you want. The woman marries who she wants. When she sees cross all over her space, they will image herself in a similar situation to shango shrine. And that not what a muslim wants to be inundated with.

[Quote]« #51 on: Yesterday at 10:43:55 PM »
do u even know the meaning of kufar? that im not a muslim now makes me a kufar? Shocked[/Quote]Anyone who is not a muslim. What is the meaning of Kufar to you? Then tell me if you are muslim? If you are not, then what other choice is there apart from being a Kufar? From among the muslims, we do have munafiqin; Hypocrite. May Allah not make anyone I know a hypocrite, including me. Amin. If the God of Christians does not have Tri [meaning 3 as in Triangle], in Trinity, you could have been in a better position to tell me that you know the meaning of the word more than me, just that I am telling you here that humans are classified into 2; Believers [muslims] and unbelievers [kufars]. Notice no muslim is disagreeing with me, even though they are learned than me. Their silence is agreement with me. I used Trinity to illustrate how insincere or sincere you may be; if you agree that you have 3 God[s]; Jesus on earth then, Holy Ghost in heaven and on earth and Jehovah always in heaven, you are sincere to the clear meaning. If you deny that there is no time that the 3 God[s] existed separately, then you are not sincere, in my view, unless you saying that Jehovah and Holy Ghost allegedly died too, in the death that christians say overcame Jesus? Hopefully, our simple dialogue here will open my eyes as well as yours [whatever that means], and the eyes of others.


[Quote]i have seen and read posts of many muslims on nl that said they prefer to marry a christian. BTW the lady in question wouldnt mind marrying a christian. thank God shes not your niece Cheesy[/Quote]May Allah not make any muslim I know, including me, Hypocrite. Amin. If there are muslim women, and christian women, which one group has the right of marriage on me? Muslim women. The same is for muslim women. It should be muslim man, not others. Its unfortunately what the yorubas for the most part have watered Islam down to. Remember I am a yoruba muslim, so you can know muslim yorubas more than me.

@Yewe2011; #103 on: Yesterday at 07:01:47 PM »
[Quote]BOTH!

the two are not necessarily distinct

Jews and Arabs are both Semitic peoples, they are cousins

there are Arab Jews and Jewish Arabs

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_Jews[/Quote]so when God, I AM [Yawheh, Ellah], told Moses that a prophet will be raised from his brethren, who will be like Moses, putting The Word of God in his mouth, the prophet may possibly may be coming from the cousins? Possibly, I am saying. Is there a proof against this possibility?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1RD49XG12Y

@Toba: Posted by: toba
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Quote from: Sweetnecta on Today at 10:25:19 PM
@Maclatunji: This is not a battle. He is making his declaration and for me, it is advise to him, a sort of Dawah. You stick around. Or should the women of Islam belong to Kufar?

Where will the men of Islam be hiding? Protect your women.
lol. who are u calling a kufar? BTW let me informate u that i don already pick one amongst your women alraedy and theres nothing u go do about that. i will not reveal her name here for u not to eat her raw[/Quote]To the first bold; What are you between the 2 classes of people; Muslim and Kufar?
And to the second bold, believe me, whatever float the boat the boat of a muslim woman who wishes to hang with a cross carrier for a husband is up to her. Lets assume she is my niece. I could not force her, except what I have done here; express my view.

I was a son of a christian woman for years. But when I was aware of the consequences of not being a muslim, I asked Allah for help. Alhamdulillah she accept Islam in the company of my sister. I guess my prayer was accepted.

@Maclatunji: This is not a battle. He is making his declaration and for me, it is advise to him, a sort of Dawah. You stick around. Or should the women of Islam belong to Kufar?

Where will the men of Islam be hiding? Protect your women.

[Quote]think u need to understand the scriptures before quoting them out of context. Jesus is simply telling us here about hypocrites, magicians and other fake believers who pretend to use the name of christ to do miracles, whereas they arent fully born again. examples. when a herbalist that does juju becomes a pastor and claims to be performing miracles in the name of christ is a typical case jesus is talking about. Jesus isnt referring to true believers but to fake believers. sir u need to learn to read and understand before quoting out of context [/Quote]Jesus was talking about those who in the future will say they are his followers. But in reality, they are not. Let me help you to identify those people; The include at least those who abolished the laws and the prophets. Those who obliged when asked to abolish the laws and the prophets. Those who obliged are those who take Paul as the authority, instead of Jesus and the Another Comforter that he prophesied his coming; the That Prophet.

You may wish to read meaning into a straight forward sentence. I will not.

[Quote]I have told u that marriage is beyond religion or beliefs. Haven't u seen a christian and a muslim get married, give birth to children without changing their beliefs till death? [/b]if u have not, me i have seen plenty. i have them as neighbours and they live happily. I am a theist and i believe the muslima i may also be marrying will also be a theist. Forget differences. its normal, what matters is maturity and the ability to settle quarrels after that.[/Quote]I said ask Mazaje. He turned out to be an atheist. I am also a product of such a union, along with my older sister. It is the Mercy of Allah that kept us in Islam, since moms are the nurturers. Finally, I became victorious because my mom became muslim.


[Quote]Take note of the xter in bold.[b] im happy u agree that she got some manners out of christianity. Im confirming to u that its not 100% because she became a muslim that made her become a good wife.Sir it has to do with home training and upbringing for your wife. Her parent must have told her to be the best wife and not becos of the religion. Havent u seen worst muslim wife that fornicate after marriage? i have seen plenty sir[/Quote]what i got from my spouse is that Islam brought all the goodness in her to the surface. now, she has a good and correct reason to do good; for the Sake of Allah.


[Quote]that is why we may also differ. Christianity is not a religion but a way of life. If its a religion to someone like me, then i must hate all muslims cos of Alqaeda, Taliban and Boko haram. but no, cos i see outside the box. FYI We must respect our beliefs mutually. If my wife chooses to fast, fine provided she would prepare my own food when im hungry and yet perform her wifely duties at home[/Quote]The way of life is your own desire, without evidence from God, similar to the desire of the Antioch to call the disciples; Christians. I have to laugh because I see hypocrisy in your statement. You love Islam so much, that you will not enter it. What kinda love is that? And your wife will have to prepare your meal, when she is fasting, while you are not fasting but will not prepare your own meal. You need to know that cooking for husband is not part of the primary responsibilities of muslim wife. I cook my own food, often and I do not know any muslim man who is not ready to cook for his family or at least his own food. And what is a wifey duty when she is fasting?
I ask Allah to guide your heart and bring all the elements that will make entering Islam easy for you. Amin.

@Toba:[Quote]Are u sure u are not actually misinterpreting what Jesus actually meant? Ok im willing to learn. Post the verses relevant here for us to review and interpret same[/Quote]I do not read mind, but plainly read what is written, especially when it is direct, needing no INTERPRETATION. Check out Matthew 7 verse 22 "Many will say to me on that day, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and in your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?'" Jesus definitely will reply, with Matthew 7 verse 23 "Then I will tell them plainly, 'I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!'" Give it your own Interpretation, but to me, it is clear.


[Quote]Im not too sure about how true u are by saying Jannah is higher than heaven. im also willing to learn. kindly prove what u are saying here to me[/Quote]You will find the proofs in Surah Najm [The Star] and the Hadith and story of The Night Journey to Heaven and Beyond of The Messenger [as]. It is the Lote Tree that ended our world {Dunya} and after it is the Other, the Hereafter. Muhammad [as] went beyond the Lote Tree. Jannah is in Hereafter and not within the 7 heavens.


[Quote]Im not against what muslims believe in, neither im i saying u are wrong. Pls tell me if anyone fails to do other things u mentioned except believing in God almighty, will that person go to hell fire?[/Quote]Allah is the One Who decides the people of Paradise away from the people of other destination. Allah says that He forgives all sins, except the sin of Not worshiping Him Alone. This is two parts; Those who denies His existence or His relevance and those who create partners [son, Trinity, Hindu type, other pagans]. The essential ingredient is The Islamic Concept of God. The rest will follow, otherwise, the rest will not amount to anything on the Day where Allah is the Only King.

@Luqken; « #7 on: Today at 03:57:28 PM »
[Quote]I have a lot of respect for TOBA (his open mindedness)

Christains are the followers of Christ(Jesus)[/Quote]this is not true, if Isa bin Mary, as you said was a muslim, a prophet of Allah.
However, the christians say they follow Jesus son of Mary. This is their own saying, their desire.

@Aletheia: « #69 on: Today at 02:07:33 PM »
[Quote]Quote from: Sweetnecta on Today at 01:29:44 PM
The two in bold agree with each other. . .
^The words written are clear and explicit but you Muslim must always twist it to fit your theology. . ."(Matt 13:14 [KJV]) And in them is fulfilled the prophecy of Esaias, which saith, By hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing ye shall see, and shall not perceive:"

Abraham was an idolater before Yahweh Elohim chose him, called him out; before he believed in the one True God and Jesus His only Begotten Son and was saved. Just like the Jews you are stuck and stumble at this point. . .that Abraham also believed in Jesus and thus was saved by faith.[/Quote]Lol. You are losing it, mehn. I am sure this is similar to the argument between Biblical Baptist and Christ; The Baptist said I am not Elias. The Christ said The Baptist is Elias. And the Baptist ignored The Christ because he knows he can't prove it. And The Christ never did prove it. Where is the truth, I ask? No answer from Aletheia.


[Quote](John 8:52-58 [KJV])
Then said the Jews unto him, Now we know that thou hast a devil. Abraham is dead, and the prophets; and thou sayest, If a man keep my saying, he shall never taste of death. Art thou greater than our father Abraham, which is dead? and the prophets are dead: whom makest thou thyself? Jesus answered, If I honour myself, my honour is nothing: it is my Father that honoureth me; of whom ye say, that he is your God: Yet ye have not known him; but I know him: and if I should say, I know him not, I shall be a liar like unto you: but I know him, and keep his saying. Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day: and he saw it, and was glad. Then said the Jews unto him, Thou art not yet fifty years old, and hast thou seen Abraham? Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.[/Quote]I guess all of this is leading to a big punch line? I hope its below, because the above is completely irrelevant and i don't feel like breaking Aletheia's bubbles here. I will do it big time, below. InchaAllah.


[Quote]Exactly what Jesus said to the Jews is the same message to you today:
(John 8:23-24 [KJV])
And he said unto them, Ye are from beneath; I am from above: ye are of this world; I am not of this world. I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins.[/Quote]After all of the "I am from above", you christians insist that Jesus is the king of the Jews. The jews live on earth, not in above. And what the Jews did not believe Jesus to be was nothing more that their prophet, and their tribal Messiah. Remember that Jesus said I was not sent but to the lost sheep of the house of israel? Send, is what Master do to a Messenger, a Slave, a Servant.


@plappville « #70 on: Today at 02:13:31 PM »
[Quote]Quote from: Sweetnecta on Today at 01:29:44 PM
And some of you are born again will get the shock of your after life when Jesus says to you "I do not know thee", after all your so much laboring to perform "Miracles". What a waste of humanity.

U are now the acting JESUS right?[/Quote]sisi, it is the woman gimmick that you are using. I am a muslim and acting Jesus should be a christian. I have only reminded aletheia his future difficulty with Jesus. Or you think, that verse is talking about Muslims? It will be impossible to tag the muslim since the identifier is "and we [christians] performed great miracles in your name [Jesus]".

@Toba: « #4 on: Today at 01:31:04 PM »
[Quote]Do u care to throw more light about what u mean?[/Quote]Jannah is the abode of Islamic believers. InchaAllah.


[Quote]Yes heaven is for those that lives righteously whilst on earth and abide by what the almighty God has decreed.[/Quote]And in heaven you have hell. Jesus, if we look in the Bible said those who abolish the laws and the prophets will be the least in the kingdom of heaven [least in the kingdom of heaven is hell. Unless you wanna tell us where hell is and what the least mean in the Kingdom of heaven, considering that it is the place of those who go against Jesus?].


[Quote]Oga where or what is jannah?[/Quote] Jannah which is Paradise is beyond heavens. I do hope you know that there are 7 heavens?


[Quote]U know im not a 'muslim yet' therefore u have a lot of explanation to do. What is shahadah?[/Quote]It is the declaration of faith in Islam of your taking Allah Alone as your Lord God and that Muhammad is the Messenger [as] of Allah that you follow his pattern. By this daily Salah is made compulsory on you. So are the others; Charities, Fasting, Hajj.


[Quote]What has religion got to do with character?[/Quote]Enough so that she does not or you don't insult her belief, The God worshiped. Can you imagine a gentle soul breaking the plates when she is angry? Can a woman imagine a gentle man punching bag or the wall when he is angry? It does happen. You will tell her to keep her God that you did not believe in the first place, regardless of how much she swear by Him. If a muslim says Wallahi, it is disbelief for another muslim not to accept it from him or her. To a non Muslim, Wallahi is just an expression. It means nothing. Aslk Mazaje.


[Quote] do u know that some atheists behave well more than some theists? Religion doesnt make anyone a better person dont be deceived. Your wife had the tendency of becoming a better woman after marriage and its isnt because shes a muslim or was a former christian. whats the possibility that it wasnt because she was trained to be better in Christianity hence after marriage she chose to exhibit such characters?[/Quote]To the first bold, I am being deceived and I am a living witness of what I wrote. I became better as I understood my role in Islam. And my wife exhibited whatever the goodness she got out of Christianity, now, for the pleasure of Allah The True God.


[Quote]sir its maturity that brings about understanding in marriage if u dont know let me tell you. Imagine me marrying some of the inexperienced young pretty muslimas u have here assuming im a muslim. Theres every possibility that we would have differences based on maturity cos of my age difference with some of them that arent ripe yet for marriage. What im simply telling u is that religion has got nothing to do with marriage.[/Quote]Sure, religion has everything to do with it. Allah's Messenger [as] said that people marry for 4 reasons. The best of them is religion. I do know that my wife and I do fast and cautioned me about my duties, eg "you are fasting". A christian would have not known the essence of my fast enough to remind me of it, and Islam is a reminder/advise.


[Quote]There are many things u have chosen deliberately not to understand. How many GODS do we have?[/Quote]The Christians have I AM or Ellah as God. Then Jesus is God and His son. Then Holy Spirit/Ghost as God. The Muslim has Allah as God and He is not a Splitting, or child bearing or a God with parent[s].


[Quote] Is God the creator of religion?[/Quote]Islam is created or ordained by God on man and completed the process on the last messenger [as].


[Quote] How were the followers of christ described in the Qur'an? Were we described as pagans?[/Quote]You are not described as Muslims. That you must accept. Then in many verses you were mentioned along with the Mushriks [idolaters]. You are called Kafirun, since you are not Muslims.


[Quote]Sir dont be deceived. Its only those that lives according to God's rules that will make heaven not only christians or muslims.[/Quote]While I am sure that I am not deceived, I will ask you what is living according to God's rule? WHere to you find that that will accommodate you and a Muslim, then a Jew, then a hindu, then an obatala worshiper, then, then, then so that all of you can make "heaven"? I love to see your muslim wife accepting that rule book over Quran.


[Quote] I have surrended all my life to God to guide and guard my path in life. I dont need to struggle about marrying a christian or a muslim. God has the final say on all matters.[/Quote]This is where we converge. Omo to ba yowo ni Iya e ngbe. God steers those who wish to be steered aright by Him.


[Quote]Right now i pray for every body even though im a christian and i equally love everyone including Christians and muslims[/Quote]My request should be kept in mind. I have seen many hardcore Christians, including nuns from Cape Verde reverting to Islam.

@Aletheia: « #61 on: Today at 01:09:30 PM »
[Quote]Quote from: LagosShia on Today at 12:25:20 PM
And he was not of the polytheists. . .
Abraham worshiped idols. . .until Yahweh Elohim called him.

(Josh 24:2-3 [KJV])
And Joshua said unto all the people, Thus saith the LORD God of Israel, Your fathers dwelt on the other side of the flood in old time, even Terah, the father of Abraham, and the father of Nachor: and they served other gods. And I took your father Abraham from the other side of the flood, and led him throughout all the land of Canaan, and multiplied his seed, and gave him Isaac.[/Quote]The two in bold agree with each other. The father of both Abraham and Nachor the bibles say served other gods. The bibles did not say Abraham served other gods before God took him from the other side of the flood [after the flood of Noah, Abraham was born], leading him throughout all the land of Canaan and then multiplied his seed and giving him Isaac.


[Quote]Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God[/Quote]And some of you are born again will get the shock of your after life when Jesus says to you "I do not know thee", after all your so much laboring to perform "Miracles". What a waste of humanity.

@Islamrules: « #54 on: Today at 12:48:27 PM » You have tremendous knowledge, mehn.
[Quote]Quote
This question needs serious and intelectual debate. The Biblical Abraham we know is equally known as Ibrahim in Arabic world. Is he a Jew or an Arab? Pls support your argument with concrete evidence

He is persian, not Arab or Jew. Sarah is Jewish. Sarah is the source of Judah.

How will it destroy christianity because the Bible never said he is Jewish!

Everyday, you wage war against Christianity, still Christianity prevails.[/Quote]And Sarah is wife was the daughter of his father. Sarah must be jewish and He must be Persian. Interesting thinking that sister and brother are of two tribes, by the fantastic thinking of Islamrules.



[Quote]« #55 on: Today at 12:52:05 PM »

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Holy Quran 2:111-112:
And they say: "None shall enter Paradise unless he be a Jew or a Christian." Those are their (vain) desires. Say: "Produce your proof if ye are truthful.Yes [on the contrary], whoever submits his face in Islam (submission) to Allah while being a doer of good will have his reward with his Lord. And no fear will there be concerning them, nor will they grieve".

Holy Quran 2:135:
They say,] "Be Jews or Christians [so] you will be guided." Say, "Rather, [we follow] the religion of Abraham, inclining toward truth, and he was not of the polytheists."[/Quote]Notice that the verses mention "They" in the they say. Who are the They? Jews and Christians, competing against each other even as they have the same Book. The Jew believes only in The OT. The Christian truly believes in The NT and uses OT when appropriate and convenient The OT to support his NT. Otherwise, the OT is irrelevant to the Christian.



[Quote]This is Islam opinion, not the ultimate. THis is a person's opinion. Bible is not a person's opnion. Opinions of prophets. Bible is not written by a single man. Many people contributed[/Quote]All the 11 disciples and then Paul wrote or reported to have written in the NT. Are all these 12 prophets that came after Jesus? Which one of them is the THAT PROPHET?

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[Quote]I can believe what a single man said! Men drink alcholol[/Quote]You need to lay off the bottles. Shayo Shayo damages the brain, mehn.

@Aletheia: « #33 on: Today at 10:47:35 AM »
[Quote]Quote from: Sweetnecta on Yesterday at 10:26:36 PM
I have a new viewpoint, now. I want any christian who believes in what he or she writes about Jesus to swear to it by a curse against him/herself. No christian will do it. Aletheia the father of hypocrisy have been dancing around it. I am sure you will too. Even frosbel will. All of you are big time hypocrites like your father the liar paul who was a killer from the beginning.
^Each new post by you is even more deluded than the previous. aletheia seems to be your worst nightmare, Mr Hamzah or is it Galadima (whatever your name is)[/Quote]If you appear in my dream, your goose will be cooked, because I will force you to say Amin. You are forgotten until I read your post on Nairaland. My daily activities will not let me think about the mundanes.



[Quote]We see the scriptures fulfilled in you:
(2Thess 2:10-12 [KJV])
And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.[/Quote]Post Jesus in the Bible means nothing. So this is discarded. Thats what I said to a friend this past Tuesday, telling him that Jesus left plenty that The Another Comfort who was the That Prophet in Yathrib [city founded by Yahuud thinking that the prophet from it will come from their blood], to do.



[Quote]Only pagan idolaters like Muslims swear and with curses. . .since they worship demon gods. But then Muhammad and all Muslims are already cursed. . .unless they repent.[/Quote]And Jesus of the Bibles cursed. I see how you view him.



[Quote]True Christians have nothing to do with curses or swearing.[/Quote]I need to get you a skirt afterwards. You are at best a hypocrite. Jesus who you worship cursed.



[Quote]@Topic: Abraham was neither a Jew or an Arab.
He was variously referred to as a Chaldee, and a Hebrew.
(Gen 11:27-28 [KJV])
Now these are the generations of Terah: Terah begat Abram, Nahor, and Haran; and Haran begat Lot. And Haran died before his father Terah in the land of his nativity, in your of the Chaldees.

(Gen 14:13 [KJV])
And there came one that had escaped, and told Abram the Hebrew; for he dwelt in the plain of Mamre the Amorite, brother of Eshcol, and brother of Aner: and these were confederate with Abram.[/Quote]After all of the Judeo-Christian alliance, the man they anchored their made up religion on was neither a Jew nor a Christian. Aletheia, your thread of "What really happened to Jesus?" is waiting for you.

@Ishilove; « #5 on: Today at 08:28:48 AM »

I hope we are not fighting, yet?


[Quote]Mr Sweetnecta,i refuse to be baited. If your Prophet Mohammed can help this man then by all means let's hear how[/Quote]God is the One Who has Control of everything. If you want help, ask God, not any one, including Angels and Prophets.

With that said, I will advise this man to enter Islam.

The moment he does, to make his regular prayers; The obligatory ones in the congregations. The recommended one at home. Then to recite Ayatul Qursi, in the morning and when he has free time. He should also remember God in islamic remembrances, keeping his tongue wet in remembrance.

They should make Ahdhan and Iqamah in their home; all the 4 corners of the inside. They should play the recitation of the Quran. I will recommend all the Quran. But they can emphasis on Surah Fatiha, Surah Baqarah, Surah Rahman, Surah Mulk, Surah Jinn, Surah Iklas.

Whatever the grandfather and all of them may have done, all of this is within the Power of Allah. He will make it easy for them. The evil and its effect will disappear. Gone forever. By Allah, there is no power except the Power of Allah.

Aletheia threw a party. He forgot that he must attend it.

Maybe he is ill prepared? Maybe the party is for grown ups and he Aletheia is still playing in the sand box in the park?

If only Aletheia was able to read the verse and understand it, he will see the sequence of events that took place in the verse.

Some day he will have the courage to dust himself up and come in from the play yard. It does get dark at the end of the day.

Has Toba thought of if both he and his Muslim wife [if there is any], were to to both be admitted into God's Mercy, that their places will be different? Muslim wife will end up in Jannah.

Toba will end up in heaven [whatever that means].

People of Jannah will not mix with anyone except people of Jannah. Read Surah Araf [The Height].


If you truly needs a Muslim wife, you need to first achieve Islamic Success by taking the Shahadah.


For Muslim women, it is not permissible for a disbeliever in Islamic Monotheism to be the husband and indeed the head of household where the nurturer is a Muslima.

My experience is that the risk in such a relationship is almost always greater than the benefit.

My wife is a former Christian. When she accepted Islam, she became a better woman. Then I married her.

If we have disagreement which has underpinning of disaster, she or I will remind the other of Allah. We will have thing, but we will not let it get to that line where Shaytan is now in control.

What does a believing wife tells a disbelieving husband? Fear Allah? He knows not Who Allah is.

What does a disbelieving husband tell a believing wife? Fear Trinity? Who is trinity? Such a belief negates Islam.


And between them is a cross? Or she is praying and he thinks its an unnecessary exercise?


On the other hand, maybe Allah will soften the heart of Toba to Islam and then gain his earthly reward; a muslim wife.

Then his reward by coming to Islam is double, guaranteeing him Jannah.

@Toba; When you finally become Muslim, make dua for me and all muslims around the world immediately, that Allah will give us the biggest Idayah and steadied our hearts firmly on His prescribed Way for mankind.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ three verses. none is from Jesus.

@Ishilove; You quoted two Biblical verses, neither of them is from Jesus.

Then you turn around, you introduce Jesus.

This is unfair.

You could have introduced those who were the speakers of the verses as solution to the 'young' man's problem

Or you give verses from Jesus so that Jesus can properly present himself, not through somebody else.

the irony of all of this is that this black man in africa is being rescued by whites from other continent[s].

i wanna read how you missed 'they did not kill him', an event that must have happened

before

'Allah raised him up to Himself', an even that happened sometimes after it.


from the text we know that Allah is not on earth. so raising him up [away from earth to heavens] is the normal action in this case. if Jesus was to ever reach the level of which we on earth will accept that Allah has go him to Himself, he must be raise up away to heaven until we can see him under the heavens.

even escalators or elevators raise people up. and the aircraft raises up.

do you have to die before you are raised up, especially when you are said to not have been killed? if your enemies did not kill you, could you have died in their hands, since for sure you were not killed by them?

i am putting you in locked up barrel and throwing it over the cliff.

Joagbaje^^^^^^^^^^^^ you are already dismissed, because i see you that you have no ability to spiritually process the truth.

@Aletheia; I am gonna laugh at you in Idoma or Igara language.

[Quote]for of a surety they killed him not[/Quote]What does the quote mean to you?

I told you that your arrogance will finally catch up to you. Yo were running away. Then you are slowing down because you are tired. You arrogance began to speed up. Guess what will happen? It will catch up to you and rubbish you.

After you tell us what the quote means, I will tell you what it means and how it relates to Allah raised him up [to heaven from earth] to Himself.

@Joagbaje; « #19 on: Today at 10:33:40 PM »
[Quote]based on this claim by sweetnecta - Isaac did not participate in the "covenant" between God and Abraham. Ishmael did.

If this is true . . . answer me these 4 questions:[/Quote]After the answers, will you benefit yourself or you will act like a donkey with a load of books on him, but all he does is make an arse[y] noise?



[Quote]1. Why does the lineage of ishmael disappear off the face of both the bible AND the quran soon after the book of genesis?[/Quote]The writers are jews and their tribal prejudice showed through. They call you goyam or goyah to mean gentile, uncircumcised. Are you circumcised? Are the children of israel the only circumcised people? I don't know about the children of Esau, the older brother o Israel. But I do know that the children of Ismail [as], specifically, the muslims among them are circumcised. That is even considering the Bible alone, we see that based on OT, the Jews denied the prophet-hood of Jesus. The denial of the prophetic office of Jesus should be enough to tell a thinking person that the Jews are untrustworthy. If they rejected their own tribal messiah, imagine what they do to write off people from other ethnic group, or groups?



[Quote]2. Why did Allah select ALL his alleged MAJOR and MINOR prophets from the lineage of the son who was not part of the covenant?[/Quote]Before Biblical Abraham, there were many real prophets. Noah is one of them unless you say he was not a prophet? In the lifetime of Abraham, we noted that Lot was also a prophet. Islam says that Ismail and Isiaq [as] were both prophets, establishing islamic monotheism of God, or do you believe Isaac believed in Trinity of the christians? Islam is continuous and there was no Judaism or Christianity, until after the death of King Solomon for Judaism and after the alleged death of prophet Jesus for christianity.

Someone will have to prove to us all that Adam all the way to Joseph and even beyond had no religion. And Moses was a religious jew with all the rituals of today's jews. I will be waiting to read about his minora lighting, his yum kippur, rosha shana, etc celebrations. I will laugh at you for being a complete ignoramus.



[Quote]3. Where are the prophets from the line of ishmael who is the alleged covenant child?[/Quote]Just for a moment, if Jesus was not the best from among the children of israel, he would have came before those who came before him. or do you disagree? The best is always a single shot and it is always the last shot. The last for mankind is chosen from Ismail [as[] and thats what matters. His prophetic office and message covers all and its unchanging. It is in the original, easy on the tongue of all.



[Quote]4. Can allah have a covenant with a slave?[/Quote]Silly statement and sillier writing. The God Whose Name was not mentioned in the Bible until He says "I AM" to Moses took time to let Ishmael be the child of the time of covenant, while Isaac was much later. I guess you see the removing of the foreskin as for nothing, though it is the "sign" of the covenant. I AM didn't wait for Isaac, though, after his birth Abraham managed to remain alive for another 50 years! That should tell you who was the covenant son, participating in it. A slave that is trust worthy is better than a fake son who neither by adoption or being sired is a son. We are all slaves, except you are making yourself a son. But you will find out when you are numbered among the slaves.

The case of Frosbel is the case of an ignoramus. I think he buries his head in the play yard sand box.

I have no response for you because it will fly over your head.

Even Jewish rabbis know that Ismail [as] was blessed. And Islam that was completed on his bloodline is blessing.

@JamesDoe: « #15 on: Today at 09:56:14 PM »
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Believe what you will. Convert to Christianity to save your soul. For their will be wailing and gnashing of teeth on Judgement day. Christ is lord and he died for all our sins.

Abraham is the father of nations and Isaac the father of Israel (God's chosen people that he used to bring the good news of Christ's mercy).

We believe I'm Christ and our faith will prevail in the everlasting life that is to come. True Christianity does not force converts. Many are called but few will answer. On Judgment day, don't say you were not told.
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^ a few typos in the above but I'm sure you get the message.[/Quote]I don't mind the typo. I am certain you know that the Bible, a book you believe in 100% says Jesus will reject some people who even performed miracles in his name. Those people are christians. Are you one of them? Are you a christian? Are you sure of the fact that you will not gnash your teeth?

I have a new viewpoint, now. I want any christian who believes in what he or she writes about Jesus to swear to it by a curse against him/herself. No christian will do it. Aletheia the father of hypocrisy have been dancing around it. I am sure you will too. Even frosbel will. All of you are big time hypocrites like your father the liar paul who was a killer from the beginning.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^ While it is not a fight, he gave the correct answer, while you gave the most ridiculous answer, and then follows it up with  more ridiculous explanation.

[Quote]« #6 on: Today at 08:22:45 PM »
Biblical explanation makes it cléar that, The Jews are descendants of Abraham’s son Isaac.
WHILE Arabs are descendants of Abraham’s son Ishmael. With Ishmael being the son of a slave woman According to Genesis 16:1-16 and Isaac being thé promised son who would inherit the blessings of dad, Abraham Genesis 21:1-3, Certainly, there would be some animosity btw the two sons. As a result of Ishmael’s mocking Isaac (Genesis 21:9), Sarah talked Abraham into sending Hagar and Ishmaèl away (Genesis 21:11-21).[/Quote]Every child is known by his father's bloodline. And only the bastard can't not claim inheritance from the father. We see that neither situation occurred in the case of Ishmael, based on how his father loved him. I often say that no king gives her daughter away as a bond or slave woman to anyone. I see that the Jews who wrote your Bible have confounded you with the worst case scenario about Ishmael and Isaac so that they justify their being a chosen people.

Isaac did not participate in the "covenant" between God and Abraham. Ishmael did. It will be injustice to say that the one God allowed to participate, He then disbarred him from the benefit. Before I analyze your Bible, did you notice that nothing evil came to Ishmael throughout his life, while Isaac was blind, had the worst kind of a wife, conniving with a son to both deceive the husband, Isaac against a hard working and loyal son, Esau?

I wonder what animosity developed between Ishmael and Isaac? Ishmael waxed stronger and definitely more blessed than Isaac, if you look at the history of the two, their immediate children, their grandchildren and even now. Ishmael did not envy Isaac and rightfully so. So I wonder what is meant by being the promised son? If a 14 year old boy mocked his 1 year old brother, and the mother of the 1 year old request that the older brother be sent out, there is no father that will stand for such a garbage request. I am a father and so I know. I love my first child. And no other child I will love more than the first child.

I could have told you the reason for Ishmael and his mother leaving the house, I believe you are not ready to hear it, yet. So to come back to the Bible, believe me, if Sarah was the reason that Abraham sent good son Ishmael and loyal younger wife Hagar away, no muslim would have that name, Sarah. We could have looked at her as we look at Pharaoh, or at least Judas Iscariot. So, the islamic position is that Sarah had nothing to do with how and why Ismail [as] and his mother ended up in Makka. Interestingly, the Bible erroneously states that Ishmael was at least 13 years old before the event took place, but disgraces itself by referring him as a little child, helpless when the water ran out. A 13 year old should be along side his mother looking for water, not helpless while his old mother is concerned about drinking water for both.



[Quote]Likely, this caused even more contempt in Ishmaèl’s heart towards Isaac.
Even an angel prophesied to Hagar that Ishmael would live in hostility toward all his brodas (Genesis 16:11-12).its best to read the Genesis to get all the gist. I guess ABRAHIM is both, i ve not seen yet where it sated if he is ARAB OR JEW, but that of his ISAAC AND ISHMAEL, it is clear. the grave btw this two brodas is still on till date.[/Quote]brodas? Name 2 brothers. And how did Ishmael show any hostility to any of his brodas? I have to laugh here because of the absurdity of the Bibles. Did anyone notice that such a prophesy from the angel did not come true? So i say the angel was a fake angel with a fake prophesy.



[Quote]In addition, the religion of Islam, to which a majority of Arabs are adherents, has made this hostility more profound. The Quran contain some contradictory instructions for Muslims regarding Jews. at one point, it instructs Muslims to treat Jews as brodas and at another and same time commandéd Muslims to attack Jews who refuse to convert to Islam. This is happening.[/Quote]If we transfer the 'hostility' to today, since the "hostility' is not substantiated in the time of Ismail and isaiq [AS to both of them], we have to see that the one who hands of his neighbors were upon, always were the children of Isaac. Do you remember Esau and Jacob how they 'love' each other, how the nazis love the children of Israel, the jews? Has the children of israel ever known peace? Makka was never invaded without the invader getting defeated. Abraha was a good example. And the statement of the Quran about children of israel as believers in a relative sense to the jews as disbelievers is clear. It all boil down to belief and disbelief. Disbelievers are frowned upon by God in the Quran. And believers are the opposite of that.



[Quote] The Quran also introduces a conflict as to which son of Abraham was truly the son of promise.[/Quote]Imagine Abraham sneaking out Isaac from under the lady boss Sarah? That will be impossible. And little Isaac would not have served the purpose anyhow, because the story of Quran is more believable considering that muslim make an annual sacrifice to commemorate this event. The Jews, believe me would make a bigger annula event of it, if it was isaac because even the Macabees defeat of the assyrian/syrians is a big holiday for them. Imagine the sparing of the life of their father?



[Quote] The Hebrew Scriptures say it was Isaac. The Quran says it was Ishmael.
argument here and then etc,  The Qura teaches that it was Ishmael whom Abraham almost sacrificed to the Lord, not Isaac (I TOTAL DISAGREE) in contradiction to Genesis chapter 22). This debate over who was the son of promise contributés to the hostility today.[/Quote]The bold shows your position, without substantiated reasoning. Muslims do not project falsehood considering that the mother of Jesus was considered to be the best woman in the world wide world. It tells you that at least it is an order from God which Muhammad [as] must not refuse, otherwise his mother would have been suited to be called by him the best woman in the whole wide world.



[Quote]However, the ancient root of bitterness between Isaac and Ishmael does not explain all of the hostility btw Jews and Arabs today. In fact, for thousands of years of Middle Eastern history, Jews and Arabs lived in relative peace and indifference towards each other. The primary cause of the hostility has a modern origin. ABRAHAM may be both or none.[/Quote]Yet in the earlier part of your post you said completely opposite. You just cut and pasted, too?

^^^^^^^^^^ The question, you did not answer because you know the truth will destroy Judaism and Christianity as religions or heirs to what God had with Abraham [Ibrahim as].

^^^^^^^^^^^ France did rob off on you after all. Your hatred of Islam is not different from that of the longest post author.

Not that I will read his post, because it is always the effort of others, so for him it is cut and paste.

I am a muslim. A nigerian. And if you are looking for a short cut guy, it will be me.

Yet, killing is not in my cards, because Islam does not permit it.


You did not see my Islam. It is the islam of those you call "Aboki" that you see, from far away Strassburg.

Despicable hypocrite. You are the child of your father, Paul the liar who was a killer from the beginning. All of you are helpers of Satan whom you have made your master.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ so you tuned out your Dad?

you are some son he has. you pay him well for even working up a sweat, even when he was cultivating you.