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people who stand for 'nothing' fall even before 'something' pushes them.

the worst kind of christians against Islam are the arab christians. Dr. Shorrosh is an example.

And of course, the dimwit on the video; while he is laughing at the guy he thinks he is "destroying',

he is actually destroying the one on the 'cross' because he cried out on the cross 'Ellah, Ellah', and not


Yahweh or anything else, including I AM.

I guess God is Ellah to the man on the cross, while God is others to the rest of the christians.


Finally, the joke is you so the muslim guy has the last laugh which is the heartiest laugh.


There is a cross somewhere or you can make your own and crucify yourself if you feel the spirit is moving you.

@Aletheia; where is 'that prophet'?

@My Vicky: « #87 on: Today at 04:55:47 PM »
[Quote]HuhHuh? I do not fully grasp your questions and I don not really understand what other explanation is required of me but I feel the paraphrased explanation BELOW should help. However, if it does not, then humbly go to God and seek Him diligently and let him speak to you. It is not enough to build our lives and eternal destinies on hearsay, what someone says, what a book says, what an author says, a video debate or documentary.[/Quote]I hope you did not depend on any book or saying of anyone as you have advised me in the bold, in your explanation below? Lets be just and apply the same standard to our views, whereby we may know what is correct and fair from erroneous assertions.



[Quote] If you truly serve God, He will speak/commune with you. He will erase every doubt we may have. It will be lugubrious and preposterously presumptious to hinge our lives and eternal destinies on our knowledge or another man's idea/sayings/analysis/view. FOR GOD TO HAVE SPOKEN TO PROPHETS OF OLD, HE WILL DEFINITELY SPEAK WITH/TO PEOPLE TODAY. INFACT, I KNOW HE DOES!!!![/Quote]If I were to accept the bold from you, you immediately followed it with what goes against it because prophets of old were humans and you only know about them in books. Or did God Personally spoke to you about them? If not, you are going to pillar and then post, not realizing that pillar and post are truly the same thing; straight up erect structure, with specific dimension and shape to carry some load. I will use pillar and post to relate what Soul is to Spirit.



[Quote]For the word of God is alive and exerts power and is sharper than any two-edged sword and pierces even to the DIVIDING ASUNDER OF THE SOUL AND SPIRIT, and of joints and [their] marrow, and [is] able to discern thoughts and intentions of [the] heart (Hebrews 4:12).[/Quote]So you can't take your own advise. Why then are you advising me? This quote is fro a book; Bible and words of a man; Paul. He was not a prophet and did not follow any prophet, as a companion. His position is not different than that of yours in Christianity or mine in Islam. We never saw the prophet we confess to follow.



[Quote] The ‘dividing asunder of the soul and spirit’ depicts that there is a very thin line of demarcation between the two.[/Quote]A thin layer means they are similar but different in nature. But I asked you to tell me where soul comes from, its source and how it entered the body. if only that if you are unable to explain its nature, i will at least have an idea that you know what you are talking about. To simply state that they are different and with a thin layer demarcation between them to indicate that they are difference is insufficient. The dividing asunder expression you used really shows that they are the same, just like dirt and body is the same.



[Quote] In addition, my body is the physical structure everyone sees, my soul is the center of my emotions, expressions, incorporeal essence and so on [/b]and I communicate with my GOD through my spirit[/Quote]Could you tell me clearly where your soul enters your body or how, or where it came from? I know that your body was dirt before it became flesh when spirit was breathed into it. We know that God said He breathed spirit into your body, hence you came alive, being Adam. So we know where the body and spirit came from. Tell us where your soul came from?



[Quote] (God is a Spirit, and those worshiping him must worship in spirit and [b]truth) and for who among men knows the things of a man except the spirit of man that is in him? So, too, no one has come to know the things of God, except the spirit of God (1 Corinthians 2).[/Quote]you never stopped quoting a book and opinion or saying of a man, who was neither a prophet nor a follower of any. If we take Paul at his words, we see that he was a liar and how do you trust a liar? What is the truth tat I bold, because it is not clear like Spirit is clear to me, considering that at least the source of the Spirit is known?



[Quote]The Hebrew word for Soul is Nephesh. The root meaning is to breathe or respire (BDAHCL). So a soul is literally a breather, a living human body (or a living soul-Gen2:7)[/Quote]What you are saying here is that human is a soul? But human consists of body and spirit breathed into him. Hence, you will have to agree that if we use your understanding above, Spirit is part of Soul being that it takes spirit and body to form a soul. I will also use this concept of yours later when i discuss lifeless as in dead body.



[Quote] while the Hebrew word for spirit is Ruach (whose vehicle is the soul or the soul is the vehicle for the spirit which may be confused with the soul (Heb 4:12))
So there is a physical body and there is a spiritual body.[/Quote]but according to you or your book which you are quoting from, the source of your reasoning, soul is more than the spirit by the body part. But soul is partly spirit.



[Quote]Everyone touching a corpse[b], the soul of whatever man may die[/b], and who will not purify himself, has defiled Jehovah's tabernacle, and that soul must be cut off from Israel. Because the water for cleansing has not been sprinkled upon him, he continues unclean. His uncleanness is still upon him (Numbers 19).
And he should not come to any dead soul. For his father and his mother he may not defile himself (Leviticus 21).
A dead soul is a soul without the spirit. A dead soul is a body. The spirit does not die![/Quote]If you are saying that when a man is dead that his soul is dead, it simply means that when the Bible expresses that soul is body and spirit, it lied. The best explanation if the Bible is not a lying should have to be that the soul is partially dead because the body is lifeless, while the soul is partially alive because the spirit is still alive. And it takes the spirit to be housed in the body for the soul to be 100% alive, and the man moves about as a living being, living soul with emotion, etc as you have said, earlier. That was the thin line or demarcation between life and death, living and dead, it is 100% soul alive and not 100% soul alive.



[Quote] The soul that is sinning it itself will die(Ezekiel 18).
So a soul can die. In fact the soul dies when the human dies. Matthew 10:28[/QUote]I wonder if the bible writers thought about Jesus when they were penning either of the two? Jesus died, so he was a sinner. The soul of Jesus died because he was human. Have you any disagreement?



[Quote]Summarily, anyone who is not freed from SIN shall lose his or her soul (for what shall it profit a man, who gains the whole world and loses his soul). Blessed are the pure in spirit-for they shall see God.[/Quote]From the two we see that a sinful spirit will at best gain the whole world and loses his spirit [as condemned spirit], while blessed is the soul that is pure [in good deed instead of committing bad deeds]. Soul and spirit are the same here, from your verse[s] and my explanation[s].



[Quote]FIinally, we cannot comprehend God by merely resorting to our cerebral faculties or rationalism; GOd is far greater and transcend mere human intellectual logic. Logic, physical allusions, syllogism, and thee likes will fail woefully when we try to use any of them to explain spiritual matters or things concerning the CREATOR.[/Quote]I agree with you in this part. Unfortunately, you quoted book with versions and I can give you a verse that is addition in such a book, which shows that the book is not 100% reliable and can't 100% be word of God. But God is not The Author of confusion. And He has given us ability of intellect to reason and let the truth affect us if our soul is pure, meaning pure spirit of man.



[Quote] [b]Let the Creator talk to you. [/b]If you don't know how, I will advice you sincerely open your heart to Him in prayer and come into a personal relatonship with Him.[/Quote]Glory belongs to God. He has spoken in revealed books. One of them is preserved, unchanging from the time of its revelation. Sisi, I follow the guidance in that Book. I have also dreamed about God and the dream was true because what I saw came to past in my family. It was about my mother. But that is beside the topic. I am happy and sincerely grateful that God has made my heart lean towards Islam, accepting its guidance.



[Quote]Shallom.[/Quote]Salaama. If you had greeted me in your language, I would have responded in mine. But is Shallom christianity or judaism? Then write in hebrew if it is christianity, instead of using "greek text" written in english language.

So you are the New Zealander?

Nopuqeater, I think. Its been a while, so I forgot how it was spelled.

If trueseeker is really seeking the truth, even the man who said Jinns are demons, period!, both forget that spiritual beings are not necessarily visible to the human eyes, in every instance and that spiritual beings, humans included do not have to be always good.

Among humans we hear about those who are witches; they do evil instead of good. And they manipulate themselves, people say, so that they are partially invisible, at least their soul/spirit travel/go places.

honest seekers of truth have different view about knowledge that makes sense, and if you can't dispute it.

Do Muslims call themselves Mozlems? No. The Zhel in Mozlem changes everything. Mozlem is darkness of Night, or lacking light, similar to disbelief and doers of evil.

Muslim is truly the opposite when you apply critical analysis.

No former Muslim, and I dont care what the accent is, will call Muslims Mozlems. If he does that, no wonder he left Islam and he is no longer a Muslim and now he is a Mozlem.

Whoever wishes to enter hell will reject Paradise and heaven is really undefined because there are 7 of them. Angels ascend to heavens. Jesus ascended to heaven. Elijah ascended to heaven. Muhammad ascended to and descended from heaven.

Every soul that dies, the soul is removed and made to ascend to heaven with the angel of death that removed it from the lifeless body. See. Soul is used here instead of Spirit. This reference is for you My Vicky.

@divinereal; « #106 on: Today at 08:44:39 AM »
[Quote]Chei!! they have finished you guys, disgraced your doctrine. It still behooves me that grown men and women can actually believe in this nonsense. Christians fundamentalists you are not far off with the fairytales but dang you defn won this debate!! Sex after the human body has decomposed, houris, jinns (genies), irrational garbage from some desert bedouins.
I'll give the Muslims a B for effort as they attempted to divert the topic to the flaws in the bible, but even that is getting old.
Frosbel the crusader (and the Christian fundamentalists) 1 vs. The Nairaland Mujahadeen crew 0.
You guys cornered them and delivered a deadly right hook!! Grin[/Quote]You are clowning around, abi?

When Yahweh said to Adam, Eve is your wife, what do husband and wife do, except that it sometimes sex must happen? Thats in in the christian's garden of eden.

when the sons of God came on earth and found attractive daughters of men, what did they do with the daughters except to have sex with with them and got them pregnant to produce the giants in the bibles?

when Jesus prayed and mention kingdom of heaven, he immediately mentioned kingdom of earth, as a similar kingdom. here we have sex in the kingdom of earth. how is anyone going to assume that there is no sex in the kingdom of heaven if you make it, as a christian? only a eunuch will propose such a weak concept covering for his inadequacies.

me, InchaAllah I am looking forward to entering Paradise and have sex with my wife and whatever of female creatures that no man or jinn have touched given to me. Amin.

one thing for sure, i will not be playing the harp and clapping hands and singing without end.

@Tpia@: « #104 on: Today at 04:47:44 AM »
[Quote]Quote from: Sweetnecta on Today at 04:40:58 AM
@Aletheia: Hey, greek man, Jacob was victorious over Yahweh in wrestling.

Yahweh repented creating man.

Paul said Jesus is cursed.

Tell me how that is working for you?

I hope you will deny anyone of them, because you will be killing the bibles.

if you affirm any of them, you have killed your faith and salvation, if you have any.

Your case is clear, head or tail, you lose.

is that your interpretation of these verses:[/Quote]I missed Tpiah, the lady. Never mind, tpia@ the man is here, to represent everything tpia. Now tell from the bold, which of the statement you said if that was my interpretation is actually interpretation or needing interpretation? haven't you seen each one of the verses in your bibles to mean exactly what I wrote? When Yahweh said he repented creating man, what interpretation needed in this very clear, bold and direct statement? by the way who did He repented to?

Reason along this line, on each verse, unless you have something better to tell us on each? please no fabrication or fallacy.



[Quote]Quote
1 Now about the gifts of the Spirit, brothers and sisters, I do not want you to be uninformed.

2 You know that when you were pagans, somehow or other you were influenced and led astray to mute idols.

3 Therefore I want you to know that no one who is speaking by the Spirit of God says, “Jesus be cursed,” and no one can say, “Jesus is Lord,” except by the Holy Spirit.[/Quote]so you affirm that Paul said Jesus is cursed then? I didn't say Jesus be cursed. I simply stated what Paul, the new comer said. If you disagree, you need to take it up with him or someone who can represent him while you ask why did he say something that ugly about Jesus?



[Quote]http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+Corinthians+12&version=NIV[/Quote]This will tell me that the verses are not on the pages of the bibles or they dont mean what they say in plain english, but something else in greek? how about in hebrew?

Seyi, seyi, seyi [this is my yoruba coming out]. How many times, did i call you?

Mo ti so fun e.

Olorun a bere ese lowo elese o.

^^^^^^^^^^^ let araboy speak. could be is not exactly it. Islam is clear. no muslim woman was married to jew or christian in Madina. so, opinion of araboy, is just an opinion.

he will back down from it, inchaAllah if his conscience pricks him [like kicking against the pricks in the Bibles] that what is clear is clear and what is doubtful, one should avoid it.

will i marry my woman folks to a non muslim, even alal kitab? the answer is no way.

@Aletheia: Hey, greek man, Jacob was victorious over Yahweh in wrestling.

Yahweh repented creating man.

Paul said Jesus is cursed.

Tell me how that is working for you?

I hope you will deny anyone of them, because you will be killing the bibles.

if you affirm any of them, you have killed your faith and salvation, if you have any.


Your case is clear, head or tail, you lose.

@Araboy: [Quote]The next point is Muslim men are permitted to marry chaste Christian women when certain duties are upheld

Then [b]it is naturally fair and just that Muslim women can also marry Christian men even though the Muslim women
are not directly addressed in the previous Aya[/b]t and no further guidance was given in case if a Muslim woman marry someone from "Ashab Al Kitab" (People of the book )[/Quote]Since no direct guidance is given to muslim women tomarry ashab al kitab, and all you did to make your own conclusion in using 'it is only fair', tell me how 'certain duties are going to be upheld when the husband, who is a decree higher [in strength, and working and providing for the family] than his wife?

Would she say to him, don't wear your cross at all? Will he say to him, please restrict you religious duties to this area of the house and your church, alone?

Toba is excited about your knowledge, so please dont disappoint him when you explain the certain duties are to be upheld.

The arab pagans are at least open about being disbelievers. The arab Christians are worse than hypocrites.

Allah promised Muhammad [as] that his sins of the past, if any [and no one has shown me a single sin yet] are forgiven.

So are the sins of the future [which he has not gotten because he has not reached the future yet] are also forgiven.

Is there a better deal?

And forgiven all sins, if you die on it is a good deal as long as you are not a disbeliever.

The sin that makes one a disbeliever is no acknowledging Allah Alone as God. A person who dies not this Allah promises to not overlook this very first class rated sin. Other sins, even if overlooked will not help the case of that person.

So this foolish arab christian is fooling himself and herding others to the devil's flocks thinking that Jesus will help. No Jesus will not help you because he already that he was powerless and said he will shout you away from him in that day you are thinking you can count on him most, and thats your reason for performing all this miracles of lies, here on earth.

@Seyibrown: Each time that you respond, I see that you did not put too much thoughts behind it.

Muhammad [as] was told to seek forgiveness for his sins, even the sins of the future. Future is a time you have not gotten to. So he had not committed the sins when he was asking for forgiveness.

I follow the same process. I do not perform immoral sexual act/s, yet I ask God to forgive me of it/them.

Arent you practicing dishonesty when you said Muhammad [as] covers his sins up, a thing he has not committed but asking for repentance, wich actually works, because when that future arrives, he did not commit the "future" sin he asked forgiveness for?

I remember wordtalks calculating the number of times Muhammad [as] asked for forgiveness in a span of the years he spent in the university to be over 102K. So a person asking for forgiveness that has covered his sins, instead that God covered them by not allowing him to commit them?


Finally, had nothing whats so ever to do with Xtianity. This is your vain desire. Even Jesus had nothing to do with you. I hope you will not be one of those who Jesus will shout "get away from me, I do not know you" too even as you are performing miracles on NL for his 'glory'?

@rezzy; This shows how easy to adopt a god.

Is Fatima Zara [ra] in approval of this? No.

Is Jesus [as] in approval of what the christian body makes of him? No.

Neither of them is here to reject your raising them to become god[s]. The same case is with Mary.


Rezzy, I asked you to preach christianity to me, as long as you will allow me to ask you questions. I need proofs.

And you already have my email. So use it.

Acts of worship are things commanded. If you dont do them you have not worshiped. If you do them you are a worshiper.

Singing and Dancing are not parts of them.

Salah, Zakah, Sawm, Hajii and doing good deeds are. But the head of this is testament of faith that God is One and no partners or partner and all prophets and Muhammad [as to each of them] being the last of them were His Servants. And you and I are not His children.

@Seyibrown: I am disappoint at your quoting the wife snatching, husband killing David [this is your opinion of the man Psalm iwas ngiven, to unceremoniously support the idea that Jesus deserves to be followed, instead of David who is the one the Psalm came from his mouth.

If this is the case, then Jesus said that the Comforter being the that Prophet is the one to be followed. Why have you rejected him when he is the one who hears and God and says it to mankind?

@Seyibrown: Its incredible that you bold-ed this [Quote]Singing and Dancing[/Quote]. when abubello on August actually said this [Quote]I find it incredible that you consider Singing and Dancing as acts of worship while at the same time trying to belittle prostrating to God[/Quote].

The emphasis was on singing and dancing as acts of worship, rather than just merely singing and dancing.

You will agree that the prostration of Jesus was an act of worship rather than just merely prostration, without that 'worship' as his intention.

Or do you feel Jesus prostrated because he fell, or other reasons but not because he was performing an act of worship?


In all my reading Quran and or Hadith, we do not see where singing and or dancing are or is act or are acts of worship. Islam does not say life has to be boring. Far from it, husband and wife can sing and or dance to pasuma in their private setting if that will loosen then up to do husband and wife business, instead of shots of Congac and Shayo shayo, etc.


I do not dance or sing to them, but whatever get husband and wife out of the shy zones, as long as it is not against Islam, by all means get it on. You will not go to hell, inchaAllah because of that.

@My Vicky; I asked you how you got a soul or it is developed if it is not the spirit that became soul in you. You did not explain it to me. I know that your Bibles say that Spirit was breathed into man. But no where do we see soul entering or developing in the body of human. We know the body of human was a heap of dust as you said, but we see soul not been breathed or developed but spirit was breathed into man.

Please tell me what is soul, where it came from, how it entered into the body, or developed in it, since we already know that Spirit was breathed into man, it remained in the man until he dies.

Tell us if soul dies with the man, when did it become alive with man and before then, where was it and how did it come into man or developed in man? I am asking how did soul enter into man or are you saying that the dust had soul all along except that spirit is entered the dust that had soul and then the body and soul that were not alive before are now alive?

What happened to soul when the body dies because according to you the spirit is removed? My problem is that your concept is really saying that if the soul is not in the body, then the dust must have soul. So when you walked on this earth, you are walking on earth and the soul?


I need to know from you where soul is from that is now in you, since we know where spirit is from. We also know the nature of spirit, so give us the nature of soul. White washing will not work with me.

@Aletheia; « #101 on: Today at 03:41:03 PM »
[Quote]@ sweetnecta: you are floundering and grasping, drowning under the weight of your own contradictions:
Quote from: Sweetnecta on Today at 01:40:26 AM
I said lake of fire. how did you come to hell?
Whether lake of fire or hell. The fact is that you confessed that is where your god allah and his false prophet Muhammad belong.[/Quote]This is your own statement. Not mine. But I see that you forget that your human god is cursed according to the law [read it in your book. I didn't make it up], and your yahweh regrets [read it in the pages of the Bibles. that is different from you lying on me].



[QUote](Rev 20:10 [KJV])
And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, [/b]where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.
I read that as:
1. Devil = allah
2. beast = Islam/Roman Catholic/all other false systems/kingdoms of men
3. false prophet = Muhammad[/Quote]When Jesus said to you that the power of the world was given to him, while before when satan said to him that he satan holds all the world powers, Jesus didn't say anything. Who is deceiving you, aletheia? See where the deceiver will be thrown, while I say audhubIllahi minal shaytani rajim, cursing satan? You are not making sense. You need to take your head out of the split in your back.



[Quote]Quote from: Sweetnecta on Today at 01:40:26 AM
The Jews hate your gut that he will string you on a cross like he did your god if he ever catch you alone in Israel. I have proofs, aletheia and if you have guts, all you have to say is that I show it.
[b]So what if the Jews hate me. The Muslims even hate me more.[/Quote]While the Jews will kill you and kill your animals and cut down your trees so that your history is eraed, at least the muslims will leave your non combatants, your women, aged, and children, all all your crops and animals.



[Quote] All of you haters whether Jews or Muslims are under a curse so long as you reject Jesus Christ of Nazareth as Lord and Son of God.[/Quote]Son of Mary is now son of God when Mary is not the wife of Yahweh? Do you have children and who is the mother except your wife? You are son of a father, is your mother not his wife?



[Quote] Almighty God already punished Israel in AD 70 when he took away their temple and their nation. God has already begun the process of restoration of Israel: which is why once again Jews are in Judaea & Samaria & Galilee and all the armies of Islam have not been able to defeat them. Sure allah is a powerless god for he cannot grant victory to Islam's armies against Israel or against the Western armies. Islam's turn for judgement will come. The blood of all the Christians that have been shed by Islam cries out to God for vengeance and so judgement will come swiftly. The upheavals in the Islamic world this year are but the beginning.[/Quote]Zimbabwe, etc are not muslim countries, because I need to sine light on this fact, because you seem to be so limited in your ability to reason. And the christians who killed muslims will get away scott- free, you think?



[Quote]Quote from: Sweetnecta on Today at 01:40:26 AM
Just like the curse on Jesus, I bet. If Jesus is truly curse as Paul said, you, aletheia have no hpe until get away from the curse one.
No man speaking by the Spirit of God can say "Jesus is cursed". But we already know where you belong.[/Quote]Then Paul was not speaking by the spirit of God because he said on the pages of your Bibles that Jesus is cursed. If you dispute this, then pick up your Bible, you ignorant mind.



[Quote]Quote from: Sweetnecta on Today at 01:40:26 AM
So after all your denials, you live in my beloved 9JA after all. Good christian man. You are the son of your father, Paul, who is a liar and a killer before. Are there Muslim Northern Nigerian Doctors? Of course, there are, you blind as a bat doctor. I hope you are giving anybody medicine because you will definitely give wrong medicine. No one should allow you to think, because you are bad thinker. No hospital should allow you to perform any operation because your anger will make you a butcher. No Northern Nigerian Muslim who is educated? Of course there are Northern Nigerian Muslims with scholarship in all fields. The head of the Judiciary is one. And all the school of medicine in the Northern part of Nigeria is not completely staffed by doctors who are southern Christians like the incompetent Aletheia, who cant separate his anger, his fallacy from reality.
Getting personal are we? Your people no dey go school so in the kingdom of the blind, the one-eyed man is king. Go to Northern Nigeria. Most of the doctors in the Federal Medical Centers and Teaching Hospitals in that region are Southerners & people from the Middle-Belt. Any one of una people wey manage become doctor is celebrated as if he or she is a demi-god because dem no plenty. Of course a few Muslims have won scholarships (the preponderance of the scholarships being from their State Governments).[/Quote]If i didn't have good friends from the mid belt and know their not all like you, I probably would have said something that will drive up the wall that you will build your own cross and nail yourself to it; you goyim or goyah as the jews will call you in yiddish. The hausas need to put your foot in your own mouth for insulting them. This is when mazaje and his side kicks should come to life instead of burying their heads in dungs. I know enough northerners to see your argument about them as lacking in reality.



[Quote]Of course like I said: Islam kills a man's spirit and destroys his mind which why you were never able to grasp the simple fact that I was in the USA studying for a post-graduate degree before returning to Nigeria. And by the way: A lot of your Muslim "brothers" do consult with me and are extremely satisfied with the care they receive. Some of them have even expressed a desire to become Christians and some of them have. Just so you know, I am from the North and have schooled and worked in the North since I was 10 yrs.[/Quote]This guy do not think. Do I know your private life except what you reveal here, so saying i was not able to grasp the fact that you were in the USA for sometimes. Should I have known, unless you are now making me a knower of unseen? Please dont make me that because I know you love to worship anything physical. Count me out. Those who do not want to enter Paradise will accept your religion and this will not diminish Islam in no form.



[Quote]But we know say all this your yarn na attempt to make us forget say Muhammad been dey drink ALCOHOL & dey take am bathe: After all him talk say alcohol dey purify: it is a drink and a purifier." -Musnad Ahmad - Hadith #3594[/Quote]I am less than Muhammad [as] and I dont drink alcohol because of Islam. If it is not Islam, I will take what you have from you, in no time. I hope you see that the benefit of Islam even covers you. After all the boko haram people have not came for you. And I am not permitted to covet what you have.



[Quote]Oya begin purify yourself now now. Why you dey wait for afterlife?[/Quote]What? You are a misled soul.



[Quote]Quote from: Sweetnecta on Today at 01:40:26 AM
Get lost you freaking freak aletheia. You are not thinking at all.
^
Au contraire, monsieur. J'ai l'intention de rester ici jusqu'à ce que je suis fatigué.[/Quote]Since I do not speak french, so it doesn't matter. And i will not return it to sender, because it may really hurt you. Now the wine maker is also as guilty as the drinker. Muhammad [as] said it, so how true is it the claim that he drank?

@My Vicky; I had hoped that you were different from the generic christians on NL, until I read the below from you. So I want you to watch the video to see who Yahweh of the Bible truly is from the mouth of non muslim author.

[Quote]The Almighty GOD/YAHWEH/King of kings/LORD of lords/Holy God will definitely not allow murderers, liars, abominable, whoremongers, fornicators, effeminates, homosexuals, blasphemers, sorcerers, idolaters, sinners and so on, into HIS eternal Kingdom.
In my humble opinion, allah will allow them if and only if he differs from the LORD, The Creator; and worshipping a god or anyone different from the LORD of lords amounts to idolatry.[/Quote] This video here will help you to know the Biblical Yahweh. Please watch it to the end and think about it.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGpYUokTkE8&feature=related

@Aletheia; I know you dont have back to challenge me on the proofs that the jews hate you and will kill you if they ever get their hands on you, if you make a mistake straying into Jewish neighborhood in Tel Aviv.

You too, davidylan, they skin you alive and make soap off your fat.
No christian is safe from their hands, if you ask me. You are gentile, goyim or goyah; its your choice. The video is about a jew honoring you. You should watch it to see how important you are to him:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=irIXIy6hNc8&NR=1

@Aletheia: « #93 on: Today at 12:04:47 AM »
[Quote]Quote from: Sweetnecta on Yesterday at 05:47:40 AM
. . .the lake of fire, which is the kingdom of our god.
^ How did we miss this? Behold sweetnecta's (nopuqeater's) true confession. allah his god belongs in hell. And just so you wont turn round and accuse me of forging your words (and to prevent you from going back to dishonestly alter them): below is a screenshoot of the precise post.[/Quote]I said lake of fire. how did you come to hell? I see. You worship a god who repents and another who is a man and the third a ghost. Carry on. You deserve the 3 gods and they deserve you.



[Quote]No matter how you pretend and mouth pious platitudes. All true muslims; I repeat all true Muslims have a raging anger and hate burning in their heart towards Christians and Jews. Some are better at hiding it.[/Quote]The Jews hate your gut that he will string you on a cross like he did your god if he ever catch you alone in Israel. I have proofs, aletheia and if you have guts, all you have to say is that I show it. Then I will post video of Jews ready to kill you an or stoning your sister in christianity. The jews dont reckon with you. I can provide you enough proofs that you will be depressed about the amount of evidence I have



[Quote]All you Muslims are cursed until you accept Jesus as Lord, as the Son of God. For scripture cannot be broken: "I will bless those who bless you and curse those who curse you."[/Quote]Just like the curse on Jesus, I bet. If Jesus is truly curse as Paul said, you, aletheia have no hpe until get away from the curse one.



[Quote] Is it any wonder that the most backward countries and regions of the world are those where Islam holds sway: "An Abomination that causes desolation". Look at Northern Nigeria.. Even come to Jos and you will see that the Muslim dominated areas are the poorest and decrepit. They provide the bulk of the patients that seek attention in the hospitals in Jos and yet hypocrites all: Education is haram.[/Quote]So after all your denials, you live in my beloved 9JA after all. Good christian man. You are the son of your father, Paul, who is a liar and a killer before. Are there Muslim Northern Nigerian Doctors? Of course, there are, you blind as a bat doctor. I hope you are giving anybody medicine because you will definitely give wrong medicine. No one should allow you to think, because you are bad thinker. No hospital should allow you to perform any operation because your anger will make you a butcher. No Northern Nigerian Muslim who is educated? Of course there are Northern Nigerian Muslims with scholarship in all fields. The head of the Judiciary is one. And all the school of medicine in the Northern part of Nigeria is not completely staffed by doctors who are southern Christians like the incompetent Aletheia, who cant separate his anger, his fallacy from reality.



[Quote]* sweetnecta's confession.GIF (98.37 KB, 1319x224 )[/Quote]Get lost you freaking freak aletheia. You are not thinking at all.

@Olaadegbu: « #63 on: Yesterday at 10:54:12 PM »
[Quote]Quote from: dare2think on Yesterday at 09:10:30 PM

Pls, can I ask one question?

Why can't you direct Mazeje and his "bedfellows" to a religion that may suit them, afterall God is Universal isn't it?

I'm sorry, no religion will suffice even though they have chosen the religion of humanism. God does not require any more religion what He wants is a personal relationship with Him.

Quote from: dare2think on Yesterday at 09:10:30 PM
Why try to force the Gospel of Christ down on them rather than encourage them to seek God in whichever parameters that may suit them?

No one can force the gospel of Christ down anyone's throat, it is not a religion by force it is having a living relationship with your maker. Whatever parameters that suit men doesn't change the fact that they are dead men walking.

Quote from: dare2think on Yesterday at 09:10:30 PM
Is the Christian God different from the mulsim God or even that of any other religion?

Most religious folks have an idea that there must be a Creator God but they don't have a personal relationship with Him. It is only the Bible which claims to be God's Word and absolutely true, just like its divine author.

Quote from: dare2think on Yesterday at 09:10:30 PM

Was the "Gospel" forced down on you or did you accept it based upon your choice? If it was by your choice, why then can't you tell them to follow their choices?

(Sorry, it's more than one question)

"God is not a man that He should lie nor a son of man, that He should repent; has He said, and will He not do? Or has He spoken, and will He not make it good?" (Numbers 23:19).

This claim forces every human on the planet to make a choice. There is no neutral ground. Will folks believe God's words or reject them is the question. If I as a Christian faithfully share the claims of God's Word, the Holy Spirit is the One who will use His Word to convict atheists, agnostics and their bedfellows of sin and their rebellion against their Creator. (John 16:.[/Quote]the bold knocks Jesus and Yahweh out of the box of being God/ You know that, right, because Jesus was a son son man, a man, a prophet, a servant of God, while Yahweh regretted, which is repented.

[Quote]« #218 on: Today at 09:37:45 PM »

@ Deols don't insult me na, Wink Wink Wink haba besides your thinking, I'm not confused  I have so many northern muslims friend and this is what I told them my pereception about the issue of servant or sonship. What faces someone backs another, is at inclined or angle to another.Remember , I said,it is wrong to judge cannot judge you by my standard  What I said is again is by the thinking of a christian.( those who are led by the Spirit of God, have been given the power to be called the sons of God . Whether you agree with me or not, that is what I hold on to and that what gives me the peace with Islam and Moslems and that in no way reduce God.  Cool Cool Cool

This I haave conveyed to all I have ever met and discussed with, all my Moslem friends including some  ustaz appreciate me fo4 that ( Except you are telling me they are just  deceiving me). I  encourages them to do fulfil their 5 prayer obligations in my single room apartment whenever they are on visit.  If you said God does not have a child and nobody gave birth to Him good. My implying  my sonship to God is an issue of being led by the spirit of God to do his will a christian  and ( just like a servant) a muslim . So see the point of congruency in the 2 and be at  Peace with yourself, your neighbour the earth and with your God. Wink Wink Wink.[/QUote]If the Biblical verse[s] claimed to come from Jesus to tell the 12 disciples what the holy spirit is and what this holy spirit will do and when the holy spirit will arrive is/are true, no christian except the 12 disciples, if they were christians is supposed to receive or be led, etc by this very holy spirit. His work on earth ended up on the Day of Pentecost, for sure. Otherwise Jesus was incorrect about his characterization of this Holy Spirit. Or the Bible writers were incorrect that Jesus said what they said about the Holy Spirit. Is the "Spirit of God" not the same as Holy Spirit in the Bible? if it is the spirit of God, then no activity on this earth after pentecost, according to the Bibles. So to claim you are being led by God's Spirit is to go against what Jesus said and what happened on the day of Pentecost.

@Op; if the bible is correct about Jesus, nothing you do [sow] will be used [reap] to determine your destination. Just believing about Jesus in enough to cover your bad deeds and prevents you from punishment and at the same time though your good deeds are filthy rags, you will enter heaven, regardless of the 7 layers of heavens. does it sound fair to you because hitler may be in heave right now instead of hell?

@justhappy; I can accept a Loving God Who forgives because sinners turn to Him in obedience seeking forgiveness because they realize their faults. That is mending your way. What cant make sense is a forgiveness that is guaranteed not because of anything else, but the fact that the sinner accepts that an innocent man was killed for his sake. God cant tolerate such concept, because it is highest form of injustice on all; The Just God, the innocent man killed, the people who work hard to obey The Just God and even the sinner is is unjustly forgiven.

@My Vicky: [Quote]1. Gen 1: 27: So God created man in His own image, in the image of God created He him…
2. Gen 5: 1b: ….in the likeness of God made He him.
3. Gen 2: 7: And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breadth of life; and man became a LIVING SOUL
4. Ecclesiastes 12:7: Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it.
I know this will not satisfy you but I pray the LORD will have mercy on you.[/Quote]sisi, read the 2 bold[s] and tell me that spirit is not soul when man became alive, a living being no longer the dust of the ground/earth?

even your bibles say that soul of man is the spirit of man. we know that spirit of man was breathed into the nostrils as the breadth of life, to make that pile of dust become a living soul that he was not before. there was no soul of man breathed into it or him at anytime, along with the spirit or separate, while it was lifeless or he became a thing with life. what is certain therefore is that spirit became soul when dust became flesh and bones, etc as living thing.

sis, you tried your best. i appreciate your effort. you are unlike your male coreligionists who cant go to their bibles to find out what the bible says about Adam and spirit of man breathed into him and by it became a living soul.

@Lagerwhenindoubt: I didn't get sold on your match stick, because it may not have the tip that you strike to get the flame and fire that benefit the one who purchased it.

Enough of my opinion. so listen to the opinion of this jewish Rabbi. He ought to know, after all, Jesus was from his tribe and he holds the key to your salvation.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMi_-xqhBYw&feature=related

The Only True God. Allahu Akbar.

This is truly, by the mention of His Name, knees go down and faces prostrated.

This is not just just a saying, it is an action that one sees, and going around in this world 24/7 every day, from now till the last man alive.

The reality of the Jesus of the Bible is a dire one. Muhammad [as] was promised by his Lord that his affairs will be perfected, made perfect, even to the point that if he were to sin in the future, it will be forgiven when it does happen.

This is Power of Powerful God, upon is beloved. Can we really called a person who is promised forgiveness by wiping off his sins before he commits and does need to seek forgiveness after a sinner, unloved? What shall we call the One Who is forgiving the sins that will committed in the future but the Most Forgiving, the One Who Loves Best, The Loving, Owner of Love? One will see why muslims can't be bothered to spill blood for salvation, because our forgiveness is made so easy. And forgiveness is the ultimate sign of salvation.


What God promised Muhammad [as] and in extension robbing off on Muslims, is the best. This is unlike the one who is claimed to be God, yet begged a God Who reused to accept his cries, prayers, petitions and finally gored to death. If these are signs of classifying the quality of the God, Muhammad [as] has a Merciful God and he is beloved by Him.


I truly can't say the same about the other God and his partner; He must really disliked him, if he could allow him to be gored down like that. I have a video I love to show: Please watch its ending and see Dr Shorrosh being disgraced.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGpYUokTkE8&feature=related

Aletheia is a mean spirited human being. I wonder if he is ever happy?

You are the son of your father of the world; Paul who used to be Saul [check the pages of your Bibles].

he was a liar and a killer from before. You inherit his demeanor. you are like mean gene oaklaund.

we all know about about the lying gospel you are preaching to save soul for shaytan so that you can swell up the lake of fire, which is the kingdom of our god.

definitely, you will fail.