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@Aloy/Emeka: « #8 on: Today at 01:08:05 AM » {I don't know whether to call you a sir or ma'am, since Emeka is a girl name, knowing that they say Toba is after you? For real what gender are you? Never mind. You won't tell the truth if your survival depends on it.


[Quote]Quote from: Sweetnecta on September 20, 2011, 01:11 PM
@Aloy/Emeka: « #5 on: Today at 11:32:27 AM »The 1st bold is what I said. The 2nd bold was a lead to prove me wrong. But where is your proof? What is the condition of the soul that I said is unseen, by what you wrote above? omo boy, you need to do better.

Where is your proof that Mohammed lived and is a true prophet of God?.[/Quote]The same you who said that {AS} is in the grave have the audacity to ask about him being alive before? Who dies except an one who lived before? Are you for real or you are just playing with play dough? Being a prophet before death? What made Moses a prophet except he was sent to deliver message that is part of OT? Muhammad's message is the whole Quran and explanation of his way is authentic Hadith and Sunnah. Don't insult my intelligence, woman.



[Quote] Where is your proof that muslims will go to Allah and be in paradise when they die?.[/Quote]The last two ayats of Surah Fajr for a start. The fact that the Quran is littered with verses that non muslims will end up in Hell, herded in like cattle to the water trough. The fact that the Quran is littered with verses that Muslims before Muhammad [as] and Muhammad {as] and his followers as muslims will end up in Paradise should serve as proves. What is ironic is that Jesus will say to even the miracle workers among those who say they follow him that he does not know them. What about you who is less than a miracle worker?



[Quote]Quote from: Sweetnecta on September 20, 2011, 01:11 PM
And when the sacred months have passed, then kill the polytheists wherever you find them and capture them and besiege them and sit in wait for them at every place of ambush. But if they should repent, establish prayer, and give zakah, let them [go] on their way. Indeed, Allah is Forgiving and Merciful.
Surat 9:29
Ol boy you dey fumble o. You didn't see the bold because you were responding with your eyes closed. Show me a Yahweh Mercy that comes close to this? Start from Moses or even earlier.

I am yet to see whom the muslims set free after 4 months of capture without at least chopping his/her hands off. [/Quote]The whole of Makkans. This shows that this verse that you quoted is time and place specific to the lifetime of the messenger [as], his companions [ra]and the disbelievers of makka after the muslims voctory over them which was battleless, bloodless and no soul lost, in that "battle" of merely marching in.



[Quote]There is nothing like absolute forgiveness in Islam.[/Quote]Yes there is. Verses of Surah after Surah say that Allah is pleased with them. And others say that they have attained ultimate success. Allah says that the sins of the past is forgiven and even that of the future [before it is committed]. Yahweh does not forgive before there is committal of sin. At best, according to the christians, He takes human blood instead of animal bloods for it. And even that many of you will have to pay because the soul that sins is the soul that shall die. None of you is alive from the time of the beginning of your religion. The sins of the father shall be on the father, and that of son shall be on son. So I asked, what good is the death?



[Quote]Quote from: Sweetnecta on September 20, 2011, 01:11 PM
This verse was revealed after Makka was opened and the idols were destroyed. In the past, Yahweh will make the prophets put the disbelievers to the swords right away upon being found guilty of disbelief. In this case the Most Merciful gave them 4 months as a grace period to be able to migrate out of Makka. 4 months is only 10 days shorter than what is given to a widow without any man asking her to marry so soon. Your Bible, both OT and NT does bot have a real Mercy.
My bible does what to widows?. Stop confusing Jewish tradition with the new covenant which Christians have. Show me where Christ gave widows ultimatum to remarry or face death like your Allah do to unbelievers?. Also, muslims who massacre non believers do not even give them notice how much less 4 months. If they give us 4 months before massacring, I would be happy. Apparently, muslims are tired of the Guantanamo Bay tactics and decided to kill us all without fore warning. Could it be because your Allah didn't make provisions on how muslims will be feeding their unbelieving prisoners?.
If your theory is to be adhered then muslims will eventually take us all captives because we refuse to be blinded by their Allah. It is only Jesus who can deliver you people from the bondage of Islam.[/Quote]Aloy/Emeka. Aloy/Emeka. Aloy/Emeka. Since you are more yoruba than me, ee melo ni mo pe iwo omo obinrin yi? Jewish tradition is OT of the Christian Bible when Jesus himself warned you not to abolish even the smallest jot? Are you for real or you are the antichrist, alive today? When you are not listening to Jesus you are either a hypocrite or even leaning to being the antichrist follower, lying to yourself that you follow Jesus. Aloy/Emeka, you will be happy if they give you notice? When the condition of opening of Makka happens where ever you are, remind me that the condition in Surah Tauba applies. I will make sure you have your 4 months. InchaAllah. I will love to see you have the 4 months and ask somebody in your gender to document your activities. Allah does not give ultimatum to a widow to remarry. But protects her from being rushed to marriage by men who see opening in her vulnerable state of losing the bread winner, to make wrong choice in having a replacement before hardship sets in. You this woman no dey tire. You be ameebo proper.



[Quote]Quote from: Sweetnecta on September 20, 2011, 01:11 PM
Killing you does not include killing myself. I remembered the Biblical verses that Yahweh commanded Moses to kill everything that moved and or breathe. That include animals and cutting down trees. Aloy/Emeka, tell me what is rational about killing animals that you could use to increase your wealth, if you are a new nation? What is the offense of the animals?
Humans have dominance over animals as commanded in my Bible. Ask yourself why Christians don't massacre unbelievers like muslims. It is because the law of God is written in their heart and they have the holy spirit as their guidance. Christians are able to differentiate when God asks Moses to kill everything or when He commanded Elijah to kill the prophets of Baal and what is expected of them as children of God. But muslims read their surat, buy a sword or bomb and be on the prowl for unbelievers blood. Why are many of them unable to differentiate what is said in Surat and what is obtainable today?. It is not illeteracy for sure because many of you are educated, rather it is the LACK OF HOLY SPIRIT IN Y'ALL LIVES.[/Quote]Were George Bush, Tony Blair to name a few part of Christianity? Pat Robertson of The 700 Club said the US should kill Chavez as quickly as possible. It was and it is always the Christian right that beat the war drums loudest. Please give me the name of the holy spirit that wrote the laws in the heart of George Bush? I am sure you don't know his name, because it is a make believe. You guys are allies of Satan, and you call him God. He deluded you to 3 gods in 1 God. It must be the lack of holy spirit that made Jesus call Peter, Satan? It must be lack of holy spirit that made Jesus command the purchase of Swords? Jesus is son of god. Jehovah is father of god. Whats holy spirit? Whats its name, as we know jesus as a name?

Olaadegbu; I will leave ou with your 3 gods. Asking me to provide you with the height of Noah and Methuselah is some kind of ridiculous statement, since you do not accept the height of the first man on earth.

Maybe you think God created Adam as a baby or an immature man?

I see the little boy in the cartoon is talking to you, you being the mom.

The boy and you didn't know when the pin hole camera, being the first camera was invented, relative to the existence of Adam.
this is the reaon the measurement is not matching the unseen picture of Adam [as].

If anyone was to know his height, it would be the That Prophet, the another comforter, a spirit from God, being the prophet that said Jesus is the christ.

[Quote]« #74 on: Today at 12:18:28 PM »
"Adam lived an hundred and thirty years, and begat a son in his own likeness, and after his image; and called his name Seth: And the days after he had begotten Seth were eight hundred years: and he begat sons and daughters: And all the days that Adam lived were nine hundred and thirty years: and he died" (Genesis 5:3-5).

As you can see, the Bible gives accurate and precise genealogy when it comes to the descendants of Adam, and it is clear that they lived long lives. Creationist scientists say that the ultraviolet exposure in those days was low due to the water canopy and that the nutritional value of foods was extremely high, folks back in Africa enjoy more natural healthy foods than we in the West.

The Adamic race grow till they become adults and they do not grow taller again unlike Dinosaur[/b]s or like other animals like the tortoise. The [b]Bible gave us the exact measurement that Noah used to build the Ark.[/Quote]which came first; the ark of Noah or Adam? If it is Adam, how is the ark that came 1,000s of years later an indicator of the height of Adam? And what genealogy did the Bible give of the family of Adam? How is it accurate that only Seth was mentioned, after Abel and Cain, while the many sons and daughters were not even numbered and no name of any of them provided?
Contrast it with the genealogy of the man called Jesus, with names of his male ancestors, regardless of how inaccurate the two given were. At least we read names, and in Adam, we read but just 3 names of his sons, and we read no more or the numbers of children came from me.
If that was your precision, I accept for you your 3 gods being your 1 God. I see your folly.



[Quote]"And this is how you shall make it: The length of the ark shall be three hundred cubits, its width fifty cubits, and its height thirty cubits" (Genesis 6:12).

The infinite Uncreated Creator gave Noah the specifications and measurement of the Ark to be built, and with the help of this measurement we can have an idea of how tall people a few generations from Adam were, note that Methuselah who lived for 969 years died just before the flood started and he must have seen Noah during his lifetime.[/Quote]While you can only postulate about Methuselah seeing Adam, you are not sure about it, because nothing indicates was not many 1,000s of years, being generations before the flood or even Methuselah. But what I intend to address is that the ark's measurement does not tell us how tall even Noah was, how can you use it as indicator about the height of Adam? For all me Noah and the few people who were with him could have slept through it. It was not for years, but long enough to perish the evil doers and begin the reconstitution the human race.



[Quote]The ark was as long as one and a half football fields 510 feet (155 metres), [/b]it was as tall as a 4 storey building 45 feet (14 metres) and about 85 feet (23 metres) wide.

[b]Can anyone tell me how Adam who was a few generations earlier could be as twice as tall as this Ark [/Quote]How did Ed too tall Jones of the 1970s Dallas cowboys used to sleep in camping outing in his less than 8 by 8 camp tent? If the length of the Ark is what we go by, especially when it was not designed for luxury as state rooms of Luxury yacht are, then I suggest that a 90 ft tall man and few friends will feel comfortable waiting out the rainy weather without feeling that the place is too crowded. Now, let me laugh at you below.



[Quote]that was to accommodate all the land and air animals and birds respectively? To see Muslims and Atheists agreeing on this is incredible to say the least.[/Quote][quote][/Quote]this is the most ridiculous statement i have ever heard. One will read the Bible and wonder if Biblical God was angry at the sinless animals. Was the flood meant to wipe everything off the faces of the earth, or to wipe off the evil doers in the only human community on earth?
The all birds and animals will have to be the domesticated ones that were local to them, needed to be preserved. Birds of the air will fly away as in migration to where the condition is no of peril as where they left. God did not make the safety he was providing Noah a burden for him and the few who followed him. So I will not expect him to have poisonous snake so that they have to erect a cage for it. Those animals were in other local places, and they did not need to save a lion because lion was not one of the local animals.

^ What's wrong with this frenchie?


woman, abeg leave writing alone.

your worship your 3 gods.

i simply wrote about my That Prophet, you they vex.

sala calms the nerves. it cools you down. if you are angry, make 2 rakat. you will calm down and be relaxed completely by the time you finished.

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Quote from: Sweetnecta on Today at 11:12:10 AM
incidentally, as i looked at his face, thinking to see traces of prostration on his forehead, nothing shows that this man prostrated recently, or ever before.
one forgets there are arab christians, who in their effort to deceive, they allow themselves to be brought in as some former muslim.

we muslims know our own when we look at the face.

this man does not fit it. there is no trace of prostration, and it does not have to be dark, before you know he is a person who used to prostrate.
why wouldn't satan appears to him as Jesus, knowing fully well that his heart was not in Islam.

Time out!! You can tell who has or hasn't been prostrating by looking at the forehead? you're so eager to discredit the man's story about jesus appearing to him that you deny he was ever a Muslim because there is no trace of wear and tear on his forehead? The story is bulls#it but you don't have to resort to staring at foreheads to figure out if he was a real muslim.[/Quote]ask any consistently practicing muslim. he hopely not she will tell you that the face that prostrates has a trace of prostration on it. and when a muslim just finished the salat, when you hear the voice, compared to when he was far away from salat time, you can tell. if he says to you i am just finishing my salat, you know he is telling the truth.

the That Prophet [as] was reported to have said to the caller to prayer, companion Bilal Rabah [ra], "oh Bilal, start the call for prayer so that we can enter the period of relieve from the complication of the worldly activities" [some wording similar, but meaning is that]. Ask muslims. We have muslims on earth and i dont know about the martians. I have no intention of discrediting the guy. This is not my first time of hearing about people encountering Jesus. I always say it is Satan that established himself in the form of what they think Jesus is.
If such an incident happens to me, Allah will give me the strength to start reciting Ayatul Qursi. Such a being will not dare hang around till it finishes. And if it does, I will command it to prostrate to Allah. And then when he does, I will prostrate to Allah with him. My prostration is for Allah, alone.



[Quote]Why don't you post a picture of your own foreheads so that we can see that you have been prostrating.[/Quote]Martian, you forgot that I have been alive longer than you? Your young man trick to see the face of daddy will not work. Look. When you see any muslim who is getting there in age, imagine me.

incidentally, as i looked at his face, thinking to see traces of prostration on his forehead, nothing shows that this man prostrated recently, or ever before.
one forgets there are arab christians, who in their effort to deceive, they allow themselves to be brought in as some former muslim.

we muslims know our own when we look at the face.

this man does not fit it. there is no trace of prostration, and it does not have to be dark, before you know he is a person who used to prostrate.


why wouldn't satan appears to him as Jesus, knowing fully well that his heart was not in Islam.

okay. you are girl.

imagine how short the people of the Bible's Tower of Babel. they wanted to build tower to rise to heaven so much that it bothered the Biblical God. that caused Him to confuse their tongues. they do not understand themselves, any longer. so the project was abandoned. What was the size of the bricks they were using?

hopefully, it the size of Lego, because of their littleness.

Then we have stone Henge, built by even more tiny people because it is shorter, for sure than the expected height of Tower of Babel.
Hence, the stone must be smaller than the lego blocks.

i meant ra pists instead of the despoilers that came out. I know they mean the same thing. I need to give the shock effect.

^ Alaxneo should imitate Jesus in his marriage life. But he wont because he will not be able to cope. And many of them are the rapist in Universities in Nigeria.

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Quote from: Sweetnecta on Today at 04:02:17 AM
@Okunoba; « #137 on: Today at 02:46:08 AM »Saudi Arabia is also a small enclave Middle East, it not even big enough to be called a region. The population of the muslims on the other hand is 1.5 billions and still growing. The total muslim population is huge and its a region, a people, a movement, big difference. Hence we can only compare like with like. I hope your brothers are reading this, because when we compare/ contrast Bible and Quran, they yell foul because of how the Bible always fall flat.

he is calling me sweetner as if I am it. Same way God is called father.

My former christian mother will disagree with your statement. The true place of worship of God is the only place of worship that must be erected in a land that the true Messenger, That Prophet [as] was raised. I do see intolerance in a situation where the truth is expressed in as a matter fact condition. Shall we allow one disbelief to rise in a land of belief and other disbelief[s] is not expected to ask for the same? Further, Allah says not to allow disbelief in around Masjid Haraam. The whose Saudi Arabia is that "around".

Dude are you for real? your arguments are baseless and lack any reasonable premise. its only going to be a matter of time when many saudis themselves will revolt againt their authoritarian regime, women are already agitating to be allowed to drive a car. imagine women can't drive a car in saudi arabia![/Quote]When the bold about my mother was emphasized, I thought the guy knows something I don't know about my mother. To use Saudi woman not driving is really irrelevant. Everyone already agreed that the decision of the saudi authority is not borne from Islam, but their own traditional thinking for their people. It is also Islam that is giving the women the courage to find their voice in the same Saudi Arabia.



[Quote]Also looking at many of your qoutes from the Bible it further confirmed to me how ignorance you are about Christianity, you are just an extremely prejudiced muslim who do nothing but just to read Bible with his prejudiced mind and come up with some prejudiced conclusions.[/Quote]I am just asking myself if the christians treat Quran better? If they did, they will be completely be of bad conscience to not be muslim. There case will be worse than just being ignorant. It will be deliberate ignorance.

the boy from a place where they only have baale. I respect my muslim people from Ibadan. But this kufar is wishing to know his history. A man from merely an outpost.

^^^^^^^^^^^ its not geography. its common sense, you bushman or do you prefer to be a bush meat or village least intelligent man?

I hope you can use GPS to locate yourself. I shake my head because of your ignorance.

I am yawning. So let me go to bed because I am tired, bored and boredom is making lazy and laziness is a form of tiredness.

I am sneezing. So my body is awake.Let me get up from the sleep that i went into because of my yawn. I need to do something now that i have sneezed myself into a state of wide awake.

[Quote]Another muslim lying as usual. What a surprise.[/Quote]we compare or contract like to like.


[Quote]Saudi Arabia, you know that small enclave, is over 830,000 square miles in total land area.[/Quote]in reality, this is for 1,500,000,000 people. and we are still growing. and since it can only absorb may be 7 millions of us, for maximum of 3 months, every year, why do we have to allow disbelievers to come in? imagine if i were to set up islamic worship place inside the church in Jerusalem that the christians can't even accommodate or agree or tolerate one another, what kind of hardship i will shewn on them? If i were to decide to make prayers just once a week at the piaza of the vatican or the st james cathedral in london, the other difficulty i will create for the security people will be huge and truly unnecessary. just like these christian places dont need me, so does arabia saudia does not need your church or the synagogue, or hindu temple, etc.


[Quote] Compare that to "equally small" enclaves like the vatican city which is about 0.17 square miles (i.e. about 850,000 times SMALLER than saudi arabia).[/Quote]not all christians or even the catholic sect of christianity want to live or die in the vatican. muslims case is almost 100% the opposite. and we are 1,500,000,000 strong and still growing. lets preserve our heritage, which is our religion.


[Quote]Nigeria is about 356,000 square miles . . . we must be too small to be called a state.[/Quote]If you contrast/compare it to USA, Canada, India, China, Russia, Australia, New Zealand or even tiny Sudan that is now 2 countries. 1.5 billion people is to much for any of these, and saudi arabia is smaller. The muslims are from the same nation, just like the children of Israel are. Islam is a nation of 1.5 Billions people. How do you then say we allow no muslims, like Jews, Christians, Hindus to set up their tent in her?

@Okunoba; « #137 on: Today at 02:46:08 AM »
[Quote]@Lagosshia, The vatican is a small enclave of Rome, it`s not even big enough to be called a city. Saudi Arabia on the other hand is a Country, big difference. We can only compare like with like.[/Quote]Saudi Arabia is also a small enclave Middle East, it not even big enough to be called a region. The population of the muslims on the other hand is 1.5 billions and still growing. The total muslim population is huge and its a region, a people, a movement, big difference. Hence we can only compare like with like. I hope your brothers are reading this, because when we compare/ contrast Bible and Quran, they yell foul because of how the Bible always fall flat.


[Quote]@Sweetner,[/Quote]he is calling me sweetner as if I am it. Same way God is called father.


[Quote] By justifying the intolerance of the Saudi Govt for not allowing any building to be used for worship except it`s a Mosque, can only mean you subscribe to the fact that Islam is a religion of Intolerance. Islam just like Christianity is man made, passed on from on generation to another. If you were brought up as a Hindu, you would be screaming Krishna as God. All these religions are just what we learn from our parents, [b]nothing to do with the true religion myth. [/b]Open your mind read outside the box.[/Quote]My former christian mother will disagree with your statement. The true place of worship of God is the only place of worship that must be erected in a land that the true Messenger, That Prophet [as] was raised. I do see intolerance in a situation where the truth is expressed in as a matter fact condition. Shall we allow one disbelief to rise in a land of belief and other disbelief[s] is not expected to ask for the same? Further, Allah says not to allow disbelief in around Masjid Haraam. The whoe Saudi Arabia is that "around".

Adam was not in the ark you wearer of cone shaped cap.

Do you live in a dog house? You must be at least 2 times taller.

Do you live in a midget house? You must be at least 2 times taller

I am sure not all muslims want to live even in Makka.

I am sure not all muslims want to live even in New York City.

I am sure not all kufar will not migrate to Islamic community, given the opportunity.

I am sure not all Kufar will want to remain in New York city given the opportunity to be in Abu Dhabi, for example.

Some muslims are natives of the so called western nations.

I am sure not all muslims in the west are reverts.

I am sure not all muslims in the west are from another country.

I am sure not all muslims in the west are first generation westerners or have family roots outside the west.

I am sure not all muslims in the west whose root are authentically west bear John, Jill, but Muhammad, Yusuf, Hamza, Islam, etc.

So to demand that a muslim moves back to country of origin without having a proof that there is such a country of origin is pure naivete.

Nothing in Islam says a hijabi can't work in hair salon. Just because a person covers hair outside is not to say hair is covered in the private, too.

Men who wear Jilbab can make shorts, knickers, pants, women undergarments, etc.

Only naive mind will think these jobs are not for observing muslims, too.

[Quote]Quote from: Sweetnecta on Today at 03:36:55 PM
And Saudi is the only land the christians wish to open shops. It will never happen.

The land of the That Prophet is not for disbelievers, just like the cave that they kept Jesus to rest and recuperate the place that the figure of Buddha must be erected.

[b]and your fellow idiots are here crying about human rights? [/b]Grin[/Quote]It would have been impossible for Pharaoh to build his Pyramid on mount Sinai of Moses. I am would kill that Pharaoh. It will be impossible for Goliath to build his archery around the King David's Hotel. It will be difficult for the baal people to build their temple on the Temple Mound or around the wailing wall. So why should keferis be allowed to build a keferi house of worship in a community that about 1400 years ago rid itself idolatry?

Some hypocrites are idiots, except that they don't know it. To Allah the Creator, any religion that is not Islam is disbelief.

@Olaadegbu: O dabo. You are not making any sense. Noah's ark is to take only local land animals. This is a local flood, whereby Dinosaurs and other land animals and definitely sea animals were unaffected.

I wanna take a long break away from you, because i find you boring.

And Saudi is the only land the christians wish to open shops. It will never happen.

The land of the That Prophet is not for disbelievers, just like the cave that they kept Jesus to rest and recuperate the place that the figure of Buddha must be erected.

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Quote from: maclatunji on Today at 01:58:31 PM
I cannot help but laugh at many of these kids on Nairaland that come here with their pathetic UP! UP!! JESUS!!! Mentality. I am convinced that some people will qualify for hell on judgement day through Nairaland just as some may be fortunate to obtain God's mercy through this channel.

It has to be so because making it to hell takes hardwork; so some of you can continue with your hate agenda and propaganda until it consumes you.

Allah says you're going to hell anyway. Start practicing your high jump skills . . . Q 19:71-72. Cant believe you've never come across it.

Sahih al-Bukhari, Volume 8, Book 76, Number 577 - “Then Allah will come to then in a shape they know and will say, ‘I am your Lord.' They will say, '(No doubt) You are our Lord,' and they will follow Him. Then a bridge will be laid over the (Hell) Fire.” Allah's Apostle added, “I will be the first to cross it. And the invocation of the Apostles on that Day, will be, ‘Allahukka Sallim, Sallim (O Allah, save us, save us!),’ and over that bridge there will be hooks similar to the thorns of As Sa'dan (a thorny tree). Didn't you see the thorns of As-Sa'dan?” The companions said, “Yes, O Allah's Apostle.” He added, “So the hooks over that bridge will be like the thorns of As-Sa’dan except that their greatness in size is only known to Allah. These hooks will snatch the people according to their deeds. Some people will be ruined because of their evil deeds, and some will be cut into pieces and fall down in Hell, but will be saved afterwards, when Allah has finished the judgments among His slaves, and intends to take out of the Fire whoever He wishes to take out from among those who used to testify that none had the right to be worshipped but Allah. . .

have a good time in hell maclatunji.[/Quote]It is pure denial that a person, unless he/she is an animal to imagine that only muslims are the people referred to in this verse and the hadith. The Quran is littered with Muslims going to Paradise and others going to hell fire. Surah Bayyinah Chapter 98 Verse 6, for example says the idolaters and the people of the book for their disbelief in Islam, will fill the Fire of hell, their home forever. There are many verses like that counting the people of the books as inmate of hell fire.

Did anyone notice that The That Prophet [as] say he will be the first to cross it, ahead of everyone and successfully? So are scores of us as Allah has granted in Surah Waqiah Chapter 56 verses 39 and 40 will enter Paradise, inchaAllah without any accounting. I ask Allah to admit all muslims on NL this way. Amin.
Surah Fajr Chapter 89 Verses 23 to 30 tell us about the conditions of man, those who will enter Hell. And the muslims who will enter paradise, inchaAllah.

@Olaadegbu; « #67 on: Today at 02:15:57 PM »
[Quote]It is not only muslims that have difficulties in understanding the KJV the Gap theorists also make the same mistake as they don't know that the word 'replenish' in Genesis 1:28 means to 'fill' in modern English, and as a result have gone on a different tangent proposing that the earth was reformed. If you cannot get it that the word 'meat' means food then I don't know whether your case is beyond redemption.[/Quote]Food consist of Flesh, and Vegetables, and not just vegetables. Before KJV, there were many Versions. Your case is dire, Olaadegbu, if you say food means just Vegetable with any flesh. Olaadegbu is proposing to us that the hawk, eagle, vulture, lion, tiger, etc in those days ate on only what mouse, gazelle ate. Then some how after the flood of Noah, the lion began to chase the buffalo for food. Funny. I laugh in Olaadegbu's village dialect.



[Quote]Just replace the word 'meat' with 'food' and see whether it wll make sense to you.[/QUote]The same way you replaced Lord with Father and Jesus became son of the Father? I don't do replacing. I leave that kind of game for you.



[Quote]That is what you need to do instead of blindly following a dogma that is not logical, sensible, scientific or reasonable. Tongue[/Quote]What are logical and reasonable are that there is a Creator Who created everything and then created Adam as the first man. When I know that God has Power all things, it is not difficult for me that when Adam was created, he was made to be a tall man, and 90 ft is not far fetched. After all, God created Angels that one of them can cover the whole horizon.
What is illogical and unreasonable is to oppose the height of Adam just because man in your view cant be that that, while at the same time you accept that Adam lived for 1,000 years, more or less. Your disagreement with the 90 ft height is because your Bible does not have an opinion, though the same Bible says that sons of God produced human giants. How tiny are these sons of God, compared to Adam? Are the sons of God now dead, too? Or they returned home? Olaadegbu and his funnies.

Let just imagine the beginning of the the creation of Adam.

In the whole place of his creation, who expects anything less than 90 ft of human shape to lay there, before the soul as spirit was breathed into it?

God creates in perfection.

If it is in Eden as the Jews and Christians believe is where Adam was created [not that I believe this is the place of his creation], if this place is larger than Central Park in New York City, 90 ft is not an oversize thing. Imagine him alone before Eve was created. Is 90 ft to big to be in a whole garden, alone?

@Olaadegbu; « #60 on: Today at 12:36:23 PM »
[Quote]Quote from: Sweetnecta on Today at 11:34:54 AM
^^^^^^^^^ Hey Olaadegbu, who was the first meat eater?
What was the first type of meat eaten?


I am making you to think. I know its hard for you.

It is rather the other way round. You are now asking the right questions instead of putting the cart before the horse. Your good book teaches you to ask the people of the book to explain to you things you do not know and if you remain humble and teachable you will learn a thing or two.

Let's go over what you have learnt. You have learnt that all animals, including Adam and Eve were vegetarians and that they were given every green herb for meat. Green herb here means vegetation like grass, vegetables and plants. The word 'meat' is the KJV word for food, Ka ji ko Wink[/Quote]KJV calling grass meat. What is flesh, then? i bet the flesh of fowl of the sky can't be meat. it is salad. or veggie burgers. I didn't know that i have to rebuild you from ground up. there is no renovation or remodeling in you. Even the evil children of Israel were given Quails, as meat [sorry flesh source], because man does not live on bread [sorry grass] alone.



[Quote]Now compare what God said in Genesis 1:29-30 to Adam with what He said to Noah after the Flood:

"Every moving thing that lives shall be meat for you; even as the green herb have I given you all things" (Genesis 9:3).[/Quote]In the case of Adam, the instruction came without a prior human disaster like what happened in the time of Noah. Adam was going to eat for the first time, being told what to eat and what not to eat, otherwise he may just eat Eve, if we take the instructions given to Noah literally, all things moving are food; humans are with him and they are moving. But then, we see that in the case of Noah, the later part of the verse negated the earlier part, now that green herb all things are given him, rendering flesh of animal useless, or its hide [hyde]. I am asking myself if the bibles know who had flesh first, since meat is green herb in it? You failed, twice, Olaadegbu. You did not give me who had flesh first and what type of flesh he or she had.
But then, the years between Adam and Noah, considering all the people that lived did not eat flesh, can there not be an over grazing of the green herbs?



[Quote]Can you now see the difference? Can you say who was a vegetarian and who was not?[/Quote]You failed to explain and my observation ridicule your post. Man was given opportunity to eat anything, except what is forbidden. Man was given opportunity to touch anything except what was forbidden. man was given opportunity to do anything except what is forbidden. Man is not forbidden to think. Get thinking, Olaadegbu.

@Aloy/Emeka: « #5 on: Today at 11:32:27 AM »
[Quote]Quote from: Sweetnecta on Today at 06:01:34 AM
@Aloy/Emeka: No one sees the soul, so the condition of it is unknown. If you ever touched a dead body, and I have, you will not know its condition or the condition of the spiritual soul that has departed from it. If its hell fire bound, it will not be hot, if it is not, you can't have a thought that this is a body of an inhabitant of Hell.

Oturugbeske!; The condition is known according to Christian theology. Once dead comes judgment and those who refuse to accept Christ will match straight to hell fire. Do it now while there is time.[/Quote]The 1st bold is what I said. The 2nd bold was a lead to prove me wrong. But where is your proof? What is the condition of the soul that I said is unseen, by what you wrote above? omo boy, you need to do better.



[Quote]Quote from: Sweetnecta on Today at 06:01:34 AM
Do you see dying in the cause of Allah does not include suicide or suicide killing/bombing?

[b]Are you asking me?. [/b]Ask your fellow muslims na.[/Quote]I am affirming to you. I didn't ask, but confirm and encouraging you to open your eyes. I think you write with eyes closed, sometimes. Similar to the Biblical copyists.



[Quote]Surat 9:5 said it all[/Quote]This verse was revealed after Makka was opened and the idols were destroyed. In the past, Yahweh will make the prophets put the disbelievers to the swords right away upon being found guilty of disbelief. In this case the Most Merciful gave them 4 months as a grace period to be able to migrate out of Makka. 4 months is only 10 days shorter than what is given to a widow without any man asking her to marry so soon. Your Bible, both OT and NT does bot have a real Mercy.



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And when the sacred months have passed, then kill the polytheists wherever you find them and capture them and besiege them and sit in wait for them at every place of ambush. But if they should repent, establish prayer, and give zakah, let them [go] on their way. Indeed, Allah is Forgiving and Merciful.
Surat 9:29[/Quote]Ol boy you dey fumble o. You didn't see the bold because you were responding with your eyes closed. Show me a Yahweh Mercy that comes close to this? Start from Moses or even earlier.



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Fight those who do not believe in Allah or in the Last Day and who do not consider unlawful what Allah and His Messenger have made unlawful and who do not adopt the religion of truth from those who were given the Scripture - [fight] until they give the jizyah willingly while they are humbled.

Do you need to convince me more that your Allah did not include suicide bombing in dying when he commanded y'all to kill us all?. What a deadly belief you have.[/Quote]Killing you does not include killing myself. I remembered the Biblical verses that Yahweh commanded Moses to kill everything that moved and or breathe. That include animals and cutting down trees. Aloy/Emeka, tell me what is rational about killing animals that you could use to increase your wealth, if you are a new nation? What is the offense of the animals?

[Quote]During the darkest hour of the night, I woke and saw a man at the foot of my bed. Rays of light emanated from him, allowing me to see his outline. I couldn’t see his face, it was too bright. No one had to tell me, [b]I knew it was Jesus.[/b]How did this guy know who it was without what he saw identifying himself first? Why assuming that it was Jesus, except that the man's heart was never in Islam? he has something with Paul though; Satan has taken a form that they both perceived to be Jesus. A true muslim would have known that the only one that you can see in reality is Muhammad [AS] and the rest Satan can pretend to be them. A true Muslim would have read ayatul Qursi, to know who was actually in front of him.


[Quote]The Koran mentions Jesus; Moslems believe He existed, not as the son of God, but as a good man and a prophet. I knew this wasn’t Mohammed. I knew it wasn’t Allah. Jesus was in my room. There was no fear, only peace.[/Quote]Too many assumptions of who appeared but ignored the reality that this was Satan.


[Quote]“Why would You come to a Moslem when everyone else has left me to die?” I wondered.
Without words, he spoke to me. “I Am the God of the Christians. I Am the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.”[/Quote]The bold is my proof that this was Satan. Jesus never said any of these when he was on earth. He knew nothing about and he did not sanction Christianity.
If this muslim man had recited Ayatul Qursi, the Satan would have disappeared before the end of this very verse. I guess the magic of satan worked on the person without Iman. May Allah protect True Muslim from the clutches of Satan, playing Jesus or anyone else. Amin.[/quote]

^^^^^^^^^ Hey Olaadegbu, who was the first meat eater?
What was the first type of meat eaten?


I am making you to think. I know its hard for you.

^^^^^^^^^^ Prescribed prayers are timely. It is done in congregation, if you are close to a place to congregate.

Personal prayers, are done secretly, so much so that only you know when you are in that prayer.

The christians forget that they have church services, and that is an obvious thing, known to all who attend or see people going to the place of attendance. What is so secret about this, hypocrite?

What you don't have in any religion, except in Islam is God ordained the way we pray, while the others just formulated their own according to their desires.

TO ALL NIGERIAN WOMEN;


WHEN A RAPIST COMES TO YOU GRAB HIS CRUTCHES and PULL DOWN HIS BALLS.

IF HE DOES NOT DIE, HE WILL BE HALF DEAD SO THAT THE AUTHORITY CAN GET TO HIM.

IF YOU CAN KILL HIM, DO IT. IT IS PERMISSIBLE IN ISLAM.


TO ALL NIGERIAN YOUNG MEN: THOSE OF YOU WHO TAKES ADVANTAGE OF WOMEN, SO MUCH SO THAT YOU FORCE SEX ON THEM, YOU ARE DISGRACE TO MANHOOD AND TO HUMANITY. EACH RAPIST IS WORSE THAN CATTLE.

YOU RAPISTS NEED TO CASTRATE YOURSELVES.

Since women are not to even raise their voice, if not talk altogether in the Bible, why complaining about their treatment in Saudi Arabia?

Improve their conditions on the pages of the Bibles, first and then actualize it in your community, first. Then ask the muslims to accept your women.
We simply ask for the right of religious assembly. That muslims practice in all majority muslim countries.


But it is what is on the pages of the Quran that matters. I expect the same for the Bibles.

What you do that is different from what is on the pages of these Books is merely your own, unless you can draw its inspiration from your Holy Text.


And the whole earth belongs to God. And His rightful worship should not be curtailed in any land. Idolatry worship, regardless of what is cloaked in should be restricted. This is why in the land of The That Prophet who said Jesus is the Christ to the hearing of the everyone, idolaters should not be allowed the right of formal assembly.