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@Usisky: [Quote]Salaam to you brother, please do take your time and study the contents of the attached docs.[/Quote]There was no attached docs.

Aletheia, the cultist is running scared.

He will never answer the call. Never in a million years.

Alhamdulillah. In my absence, the lion is here to eat Aletheia up.

There are still other lions. Some of them are using Miswak to cheapen their teeth for a clean and terminal bites.

@Aletheia; Your case is like the case of Abu Lahab. I read the surah revealed about his demise, as my own tradition within the tradition of the Messenger [as], always on Mondays.

I seek the Anger of Allah on Abu Lahab, every mondays, always.


If you die as a disbeliever, the condition of disbelief is tragic.

Paul, Paul and more Paul it is. He made a human god and you swallow it"big time" in ignorance.

I as a yoruba man, with all the idolatry in yoruba land know what is idolatry.And Islam is not it.


Look at odun-ifa, aka PastorAIO. now thats idolatry. Christianity is another form of it, just like Hindus or Buddhist, etc.

Even the Jews, according to Jeremiah.

Let me rest, some more. I know you will never be able to provide a name for the holy ghost. Even if at just before your life ends, you are given double amount of years to present me with a name. You will not be able to provide it. Thats guaranteed by Allah, coming from this follower of Muhammad [as], the final Messenger of Allah.

Aletheia; How do you like the Bible showing the brilliant color of Paul?

He is your father, the liar and killer from the beginning.

[Quote]Those who saw Jesus in Israel during his lifetime are the only ones who have seen what God looks like.[/Quote]I bet somebody local was taller than him? Imagine the giant sons of God must be taller than the average height Jesus? And when he was child, we see the child god? When he was a teenager, we saw the teenager god? When he ran to Egypt, we saw the running away god? When he finally was arrested, we saw the arrest god? And when he was being sentenced, we saw the sentenced god. And when we read about his demise, we saw the demised god or dead god? And even after that, he was still walking the shadows, so we saw the still afraid to die the second time god. At this point, aletheia, I have to be ashamed for you because you seem to be thinking like a child in the sand box. Don't give me this many opportunities. I kill your argument, InchaAllah, every time. I own you. You are mine to toy with.


[Quote]God made man in His likeness (Genesis 1:26), so Jesus showed us the likeness of God. Jesus said himself that those who saw him saw the Father in full representation:[/Quote]pastorAIO. I think this is where you shine the most; showing Aletheia his obvious off the track thinking. Talk to him, mehn. Please don't go into ile awo at all. God looking like man? No wonder the christians gods, stacking their powers together repented that they created man. Mere men scared them.


[Quote]John 14:9-11. . .he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father? Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works. Believe me that I am in the Father, and the Father in me: or else believe me for the very works' sake.[/Quote]He was sent. Father's power supports me so that he can speak up of what he was sent with. Father does all the works. The "or believe me of the very work" brings the idea to 50% because people are smart enough to know a Powerless man is not God. God is Unseen, yorrr.


[Quote]Muhammad wanted to show the sovereign power of Jehovah God as Jesus did, Muhammad would have had to do thousands of healings and cast devils out of people. We will see later that Muhammad himself got sick, and was himself bewitched and ensorcelled. Muhammad did not behave like the God of the Bible, and he did not do the works under God's power.[/Quote]The cumulative miracles of all prophets, including Jesus are less than what Allah did through His Messenger, Muhammad [as]. The miracle of Muhammad [as] is still alive, today. The try that witnessed him as a child in the company of his uncle in Syria, is still alive and there is a thread about it in the Islamic section titled "The Sahabi {witness} of Muhammad [as]".


[Quote]Hebrews 2:9, But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man.[/Quote]This is hilarious. Coming from a liar, paul makes it a thing of comedy. Yet after all the made [created] lower than angels and the suffering and dying, no man has remained, including paul the big time shayatin.


[Quote]For those of us today, including prophets in Arabia in 625 AD, we have to walk by faith without begging for physical representations of God as Abu Razin did in Al Hadis, book 4, Chapter 42, no. 47 above.[/Quote]Except that already settled for a man god.


[Quote]Hebrews 11:1, Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.[/Quote]Even when its a lie from a liar?


[Quote]Regarding Allah looking like the moon,[/Quote]Clarity of sight.


[Quote] Isaiah 24:23 Then the moon shall be confounded, and the sun ashamed, when the LORD of hosts shall reign in mount Zion, and in Jerusalem. . .[/Quote]The territory of his reign. This is different from Allah Who says He is the Lord of all things. Read Surah Maryam. The mother of your so called human god. Jesus and his mother, everyone, including you and I will come singly to Allah as slaves, creations. You cant hide.


[Quote]The moon is not a picture of the God of the Bible because God is never confounded. Perhaps this suits Allah though, for he will be confounded one day by Jehovah God. Jehovah CREATED the moon. The moon is not a picture of God.[/Quote]Shhm. Jehovah used to be Yahweh, then used to be I AM, and on the lips of Jesus was Ellah. With so many versions, and repenting, how real is this power?


[Quote]We have seen that the Quran and Hadith have a very poor view of Allah. Like a pagan Greek god, Allah shares his sovereignty with man, he needs protection.[/Quote]And just above jesus was the god. jesus the son of mary. jesus the man was the god of aletheia. We can imagine the mind in the body of aletheia.


[Quote] In the heart of his followers, he is represented by the moon[/Quote]Followers? Muhammad [as] has followers. I am one of them. Allah has worshipers. Muhammad, me, and all Muslims are His worshipers. No Muslim imagine Allah as the moon. But we say that we shall see Him as clearly as people see the full moon on a clear night when we are residing in paradise, InchaAllah. I know all of these are too complicated for yah.


[Quote] rather than revealed by the Prophet Muhammad, as Jesus Christ revealed Jehovah to his followers.[/Quote]How did jesus revealed jehovah, when he says his Lord is Ellah? Jehovah and Ellah are not the same. You are for jehovah and jesus is for Ellah. You people wrote that jesus said that whoever sees him have seen jehovah. Not Ellah Who is Unseen and He is not on earth but above the Heavens.


[Quote]True Christians refuse to blaspheme God by demanding a physical representation of God,[/Quote]So now, jesus is no god anymore, since he was physical?


[Quote] and this condemns the idol worship of the Roman Catholic Churches as well as Muhammad's moon pictures. It is very clear that Allah is alien to the God of the Bible.[/Quote]The gods of the Bibles are aliens to one another. I have asked you in vain to give me the name of the ghost god. Well the Jews with their OT in hand rejects your Trinity. As far as I know, Tri is 3. So you worship 3 gods as a christian; you worship jesus the son of Mary. You worship jehovah. Jehovah is not I AM of Moses and not the Ellah of jesus. You also worship the ghost.


[Quote]Comment: This shows why the moon is given such prominence in the idolatrous religion of Islam.[/Quote]Comment; And i still make my prayers with or without the moon. And you are dealing with sun god of sunday. That will do it. I thank God Who has created you. Your shayatin is driving you so that we in islam can respond to you. I pray someone will accept islam by our efforts. Amin.

[QUote]JEHOVAH GOD PRESENTS HIMSELF TO HIS PEOPLE IN THE BIBLE[/Quote]He finally graduated from I AM, Yahweh and even Ellah of the lips of Jesus to paul's Jehovah. Who is leaders of Christianity but Paul? And we see why Jesus will say i do not know ye.


[Quote]Roman 9:20-21, Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it, Why hast thou made me thus? Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour?[/Quote]The author of this is mr Paul, the liar who was a killer from the beginning. A handwork of Satan by his mind.


[Quote]What potter could give his power to make pots to the pots? The Bible gives us a picture of a total sovereign, Jehovah God, who shares his authority with no one. What a contrast to Allah![/Quote]I know you can count. So count with me; Jesus is god #1, Holy Ghost is god #2 and I AM is god ##. I know you wanna say its 1 God. We see that you will lying as I clearly demonstrated. Unless 2 of the 3 are fakes?


[Quote]John 15:5, I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing.[/Quote]I read it somewhere that a certain man god says that by his own power he can do nothing. This is similar to the men. Heck, this man god was therefore a man. Totally. And we see that this verse talks about more than 1 god. at least 2 gods.


[Quote]Jesus made it clear that the child of God is totally on the receiving end 100% of the time with regard to power. Why? The Divine power is not shared, it is dispensed to flow through the saint.[/Quote]son of God? And you think that is truly a God? Who is the wife of God or are we dealing a bastard here or unwilling sex here? You need not to give me this much opportunity to ridicule you. I am enjoying it though. Per chance, Allah may open the eyes of a soul among those who read it.


[Quote]Romans 7:18, For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh,) dwelleth no good thing: for to will is present with me; but how to perform that which is good I find not.[/Quote]Garbaaagee. I asked my friend last night if Jesus finished everything in the Bible. When he didn't answer, I said to him, did God speak to anyone after Jesus? He finally went back to the first thing, using John to say Jesus said "it is finished". So I asked him if this is what was reported by all the 4 gospels? And why do you choose John instead of the others? The truly gentleman said that it is true that Jesus said other things as his last word. Adding that the hands of humans have entered the Bible. When he spoke about the plague, if adding or subtracting from the Bible is done, I asked if this came to Jesus from Ellah or who was telling us? Well that was where we stopped. Today, I am going to nail Paul to the cross and threw him off the cliff.


[Quote]The God of the Bible did not share his sovereign power with the Apostle Paul. See next who had total control of the power[/Quote]As I recall, the Jews have a different God. Yet both of you share the Bibles, together. You shamefully accepted their OT and use it when it suites you. They rejected your NT, altogether, making fun of you. Some Bibles you people have. With your Trinity who knows what you will hatch out next.


[Quote]Philippians 2:13, For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure.[/Quote]Which God, Mr. Paul? Are we talking about the nameless Ghost, or the the baby god Jesus or the third God, father Yahweh?


[Quote]According to the Bible, God shares none of His sovereignty with man, especially not with self-exalting prophets like Muhammad. He works in His children by allowing them to do His work under His total control.[/Quote]You complain like a disputing woman [sorry ladies. none of you is a disputing woman]. Self exalting, when he says I am a slave? How about a mere man who says he is powerless that you made to a god? You exalted him or did he exalt himself by saying he and father are one, and at the end he betrayed himself by the "my God, my God, why hath Thou forsaken me?"


[Quote]Remember the Hadith of Muhammad above-- Al Hadis, book 4, Chapter 42, no. 47, Abu Razin Al-Uqaili reported: I asked: O Messenger of Allah: will everybody of us see on the Resurrection Day his Lord in his open form? "Yes" he replied, . .[/Quote]Open form, to mean an Unseen now becomes Seen. What a Glorious Sight. And Allah will slaughter death. Those who will remain in Hell never die. I pity some of my ascendants who have passed as non Muslims. May Allah not make any Muslim I know, including me enter Hell. Amin.


[Quote]Colossians 2:8-9, Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ. For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.[/Quote]Let me shake your foundation for a moment with the writing of Paul about lies. Enjoy:
He speaks falsehoods.
7 But if through my falsehood God's truthfulness abounds to his glory, why am I still being condemned as a sinner? (Rom. 3:7)
He does not understand his own actions. Nothing good dwells within him. He does evil.
15 I do not understand my own actions. For I do not do what I want, but I do the very thing I hate.
16 Now if I do what I do not want, I agree that the law is good.
17 So then it is no longer I that do it, but sin which dwells within me.
18 For I know that nothing good dwells within me, that is, in my flesh. I can will what is right, but I cannot do it.
19 For I do not do the good I want, but the evil I do not want is what I do. (Rom. 7:15-19)

[Quote]Muhammad is indeed a god to Muslims when we consider how quick and eager they are to kill and destroy at any perceived slight to this false prophet.[/Quote]Muhammad [as] is no God or god to any muslim. If any muslim imitates the christians in making anyone a deity or Deity, he should join the christian religion, because he is not a muslim. And the bold is not done, by those who do it because Muhammad [as] is their God or god. Now, lets look at the test of a true prophet, from the Bible. How about the New Testament test? It says if a person who says he a prophet says something and it does not come to pass in its time, he is a false prophet. Let me apply this to Muhammad and then Jesus.
Nothing Muhammad said that never come to pass in its time.
Jesus said he will return before the last of his 12 disciples died. You as a christian is still expecting him, because he has not returned and all the disciples are deader than dead, already.



[Quote]Al Hadis, Book 1, Chapter 6, no. 166, Ibn Abbas reported: One day I was behind the messenger of Allah. He said, 'O boy! protect Allah, and he will protect you, ' "[/Quote]I think a christian was trying to show me how merciful his god is once. He said that his god said that he was hungry and the christians didn't feed him. So somebody asked, but you never were hungry around us. So he told them when so and so was hungry, if you had fed him, you would actually be feeding me.
Protect Allah here is simply protect you deen by honoring your commitment in it. That translates to Allah holding His own end of the agreement; forgiving the muslim and protecting him from the greatest and unending hardship. He will not enter Hell Fire, InchaAllah, while others by Command of the Malik Yaumidin are herded into it.



[Quote]This is even more puerile. Allah has a deal going. A favor's a favor, right? Watch out for Allah as if he has some enemy that only you can keep away from him.[/Quote]If Jesus had so much as half of the strength of followers, the jews would not have strung him up like that. You should be throwing dust on your head for worshiping a hung man. I bet he will say he does not know you in the day of Judgement. Watch.



[Quote] Dear Muslim friend, this is the prophet speaking revelation from Allah. It cannot be questioned by a devout Muslim. Please start to think and reason about this business.

Comment: This explains why Muslims are always eager to protect their god: he is too weak to protect himself.[/Quote]The Battle of Badr is a testimony to your lie.



[Quote]Al Hadis, book 4, Chapter 42, no. 47, Abu Razin Al-Uqaili reported: I asked: O Messenger of Allah: will everybody of us see on the Resurrection Day his Lord in his open form? "Yes" he replied. I asked: And what is the sign of that in His creation? He said: "O Abu Razin! is it not that everyone of you sees the moon in the full moon-lit night in its Unclad form?"[/Quote]Even nuclearboy understand this, even though he is blind as a bat. Ask people. The full moon in a clear night is seen in all its brilliance. Allah Will be seen as the Best Reward for all who made it to Paradise. This is without a doubt.



[Quote]So, according to Allah and Muhammad, his prophet, the moon is the physical manifestation of Allah.[/Quote]What is the sign of that in His creation, s not the manifestation. Sign of that is simple give me a similitude of that sight. The Similitude is that you will not miss the appearance of the full moon on a clear night. You will see its total beauty and brilliance. Allah Will be 100% Visible. He is unlike your wrestling god that ordinary Jacob was able to defeat and the people believed in that weak god!



[Quote] It is interesting to note that the moon was a goddess image in Arabia before Islam, and it was called Allat. Allat, the moon goddess, and Al-Uzza, or Venus, got into the Quran temporarily in the "Satanic verses."[/Quote]Aletheia, continue with your lies. Its good for you. Your shaytan has a full run on your life as he did of your god. When we think back at King Solomon, we see that the jews are great and consistent idol worshipers. So when moon god was unearthed, it was in Palestine, home of the Jews. Islam did not open Jerusalem until the kalifat of Umar bin Khattab [ra]. And the satanic verse is the same as the jews hearing Jesus saying ELias when the Bible recorded that he said Ellah. You hear what is dear to your heart. You hear lies and become the conveyor of it. We in Islam know the truth.



[Quote] But, according to Muhammad, this ancient pagan symbol, the moon, is the physical representation of Allah. It is curious also that Muhammad used the word "Unclad."[/Quote]The importance of the moon was so great that Muhammad split it into two, by the Permission of Allah. And the Jews didn't keep Jesus but unclad. And who are the worshiper of the sun and son but the bikini and speedo wearing christians?



[Quote] From the beginning, men have tried to UnCloth their gods. The Roman Catholic Church has Unclad prophets, Mary with her bosom hanging out, Jesus nearly Unclad, and angels totally Unclad all over the ceiling of many of its European churches. The Greeks presented their gods Unclad to the people.[/Quote]The full moon on a clear night is not without secret. It is for everyone to see,

Aletheia needs a brain and mind, because he has now are new and unused brain and mind. I dont know how he functions? He cant provide the name of the holy ghost. Can any christian please help him? {Suddenly, there is complete silence. No christian is bold enough to provide the name}.

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Muslims are the biggest idolaters of all. That they claim a monotheistic faith does not equate to worshiping the One True God, rather they are worshiping one false god (which is actually a syncretistic mixture of several gods).

Now we will see what the Quran and the Bible say about God. We cannot cover the whole question, but we will present enough to see that the Koran and the Bible disagree violently regarding God.

THE QURAN DESCRIBES ITS GOD

Sura 3:26 says, O Allah! Owner of sovereignty! Thou givest sovereignty unto whom Thou wilt, and thou withdrawest sovereignty from whom Thou wilt."

According to the Koran, Allah shares his sovereignty with others.[/Quote]I feel like asking you if you got what is in the bold from Verse 26 of Surah Ali Imran. But I realize you will not be able to process the question. So I give you an explanation from the pages of the Bible. If at least you can't understand anything, you must understand that the children of Israel wanted to imitate the other nations which they have came in contact with. They began making a god, a Yahweh when Moses stayed longer than they wanted. We know that the not so eloquent in speech Moses was the law giver over every one of them. What we should notice however, was when they settled in Palestine. Now they need a leader, a king to be precise. So Prophet Samuel was instructed to choose poor man Saul as their King. So now they have a king, a formerly poor man to hold sovereignty over them. Do you get it now?

Maybe you can quite process it all. So let me give you another example. Young man David killed seasoned war veteran Goliath. David later became king. Does that begin to help clear your mind. How about the case of Solomon? How about the prophetic office of a child of a single young mother? Jesus within all natural process, people will call him a bastard. The Jews say he is. Yet Allah elevated him to a lofty position, so much so that you took him for your lord. And none of these people is but a slave who will come to his Creator, Allah Bari Ta'ala, alone in humility, full of hope and mercy from Him.



[Quote]In This is explained if we read the Hadith where we find that Muhammad took charge of every little detail of the Muslim's life, such things as when to blow the nose, how to wear shoes, when not to pass gas, how to urinate, how to conduct intimate union in marriage, and how to kneel. [/Quote]Hey mehn, you must remember the duties of the Another Comforter? He is to lead you to all things. While you will use the bathroom like a cattle, since Jesus didn't teach his disciples any of that, Muhammad [as] as the Another Comforter which is the spirit of truth, as the That Prophet have to teach and explain everything.



[Quote]We will look at some of these later, but it becomes clear who Muhammad meant when he said Allah shares sovereignty. Muhammad meant himself. He was a Prime Minister god to his followers.[/Quote]The Prime minister is no god. The Prime Minister [as] and all his followers bow their will, collectively to Allah Subhanna wa Ta'ala. We are His slaves and we are happy about it.



[Quote] They could not relate to Allah, who was far away, but Muhammad was god on the spot, day and night, around the clock.[/Quote]I imitate Muhammad [as]. He prostrated and I do prostrate. This is not far but near to Allah. It is different from your condition whereby you install son of Mary as your god, even though he prostrated his face to God, Ellah Who sent him. You see how I proved that you are an idolater? My case is not like yours. I give evidence, while you just postulate, thinking that we are gullible to swallow your poo that you post.

{Quote]Behold your gods; O Islam!

These incidents are well recorded by Muslim historians, so they are not made-up stories.[quote][/Quote]Behold your gods; oh Christianity.
I will list them as follows;

1] Yahweh, who said His Name is I AM to Moses, and Jesus called Him Ellah. We see how well Jesus knew Yahweh, but He knew Ellah well enough.

2] Holy Ghost, who has no Name. Behold a fraud is in the works.

3] Jesus, son of Mary, who prostrated his face and cried to Ellah in his native tongue, instead of Yahweh, Jehovah, I AM!

We have all of the gods of the christians recorded in the Bibles. This above shows that the Bible is equal to history books in Islam; Some truth, some lies.

[Quote]Arabic, like Hebrew before it, is a Semitic language.[/Quote]i wonder how he knew that hebrew was before Arabic, when there were arabs before Ibrahim [as] ever left old country Iraq? but lets leave that alone.


[Quote]In Hebrew, "el," was the word for god - lower case "g" - as in idols. Elohiym was used with the article to convey "God" with a capital "G." In Arabic, "el" became "il."[/Quote]Note that Elohiym told Moses that His Name is "I AM". Then Jesus said Ellah. There are two versions, now and Elohiym was not used by either of the mighty prophets [as]. And i kno say dey no bon the white boy properly to write out the small g god as he wrote out Big G God, because both are the same except the E of Big G God will be e when it come to small g god. How do we therefore trust Mr. Montgomery or the hebrews except that they tell us when they mean Big G?


[Quote]Then, over time, Arabs derived a secondary word for god, "ilah." With "al" being the Arabic word for "the," Muslims would have us believe that "Allah" is a contraction of "al" and "ilah." But the first pillar of Islam contradicts this claim when it says: "There is no ilah but Allah."[/Quote]The cony Islamic Scholar is analysis Arabic that is a living language compared to the dead Hebrew language and even that he is dishonest. The white people who are pagans call their god, God. God is the same Name and if you wish, word that english people call their Creator. Interestingly, they have no revelation. And the revelations of the Jews, God didn't call Himself Yahweh to Moses, but I AM, and didnt call Himself either to Jesus who will be mistaken if that was the case when he cried out "Ellah" for all to hear, so much so that those who heard him wrongly said that he said Elias.


[Quote]If "Allah" were the Arabic word for god it would have been written: "There is no allah but Allah. Moreover, the Qur'an itself uses "Ilah" when Allah claims to be "the God of Abraham" (Qur'an 2:132). And that ends the debate because the only way Muslims can claim Allah, not Ilah, is the Arabic word for "God" is for the Qur'an to be errant or for its author to be either ignorant or deceitful. Further, there are hundreds, if not thousands, of Islamic traditions like the one we just reviewed that confirm that Allah was the name of a well-known pagan deity (at least in Mecca). Their own scriptures profess that Allah had an ignominious rule as a Meccan rock idol centuries before he was transformed from god to God, from an ilah to Allah. All of which serves to destroy the most essential Islamic myth: "We all worship the same God."[/Quote]Most people who know the yoruba culture will tell you that the yoruba Muslims and well as others, including the Christians will name their children Oluwa this or that. Yet the Muslims worship One God, never seen, the Christians worship 3 gods in trinity with one being Jesus son of Mary and the idolaters have their idols in front of them, acting in the same capacity as Jesus is with the Christians as the go between. Is the Oluwa this or that of the muslims the sam as that of the trinity worshipers, aka christians or the aboirokos? Of course not. In the final analysis, each will raise his eyes heavenward if you ask him to tell you where God is. Montgomery is a deceit and the only Deity that the Arabs never made to a some sort of figure is Allah because they knew He was Unseen and the children of Israel used to make pilgrimage to this same Kaaba before they introduced idols in it. Alhamdulillah for Islam under Muhammad [as] who killed every one of the idols. annexed is what the despicable rabbi Daniel Lapin said about the Hajj of the children of Israel. Watch it and throw sand on your head because Allah has Perfected Islam regardless of your collective efforts:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdsVGoGbbqI&feature=results_main&playnext=1&list=PL44A50289FA6E699B


[QUote]Back in Mecca: Ishaq:67 "When Abdul Muttalib had ten sons grown to maturity and he knew that they would protect him, he told them of his vow, and called on them to keep faith with Allah in this matter. They expressed their obedience, and asked what they should do. He replied, 'Let every one of you take an arrow, write his name on it, and bring it to me.' They did this, and he went into the presence of Hubal in the interior of the Ka'aba. Hubal was the greatest of the idols of Quraysh in Mecca." Ibn Ishaq, the earliest compiler of Muslim Traditions, just told us that the high god of the Ka'aba was Hubal - not Allah. Doesn't this make Allah (also the second god of the Qur'an following Ar-Rahman) a second rate deity?[/Quote]This tells you if you have wisdom that Allah was not an idol, since Abdul Muttalib just told his sons that Allah is the Deity that matters in their affairs. From youth, I knew Oluwa was Unseen. And there are two types of historians, the ones who record story accurately and the ones who record their own his tory. And among the ones who record it accurately, there are those who will actually be accurate and those will be lied to. If anyone were to read the above, a recording after the Islam of Muhammad has been established, we can see that no arabs even the Qurashis disputed what Muhammad was saying about Allah. Not a single arab tribe says wait a minute, Allah is not what you said He is, but something else. No one, even when Muhammad began. When Muhammad and his followers were shunned. When Muhammad and his followers left for Madina. When the pagans were fighting the Muslims, including when they defeated the Muslims in the Battle of Huud. Interestingly, the pagans said to the Muslims, we have Hubal. And Muhammad said Allah is our Support. The pagans did not say, hey wait a minute, He is an idol with us in the Ka'aba! Was Allah an idol? This was the evidence that He was not, because the pagans would be fo olish not to let the Muslims know that He is in their territory. This is similar to the fact that Jesus was silent when satan told him that he satan was the authority on earth. If Jesus was an authority, as you people claim that he was, it beats everyone, including all of you, except that you people are not thinkers but blind in faith that he never said to satan, I am your God and I am the Owner of all of these and you are dead right now, freeing all mankind from you. We see that the big bang that Jesus was to bring was truly whimper.


[Quote]Papa Muttalib started having second thoughts. So he went off and consulted with a sorceress, hoping to get the "right" advice. Tabari VI:2 "By Allah! You shall never sacrifice him but you must get an excuse for not doing so." This sounds innocent enough until you realize that the person swearing by Allah is a Devil worshipper. "There is a sorceress who has a familiar spirit; ask her, and you will know what to do. If she commands you to sacrifice him, you will sacrifice him, and if she commands you to do something which offers relief to you and to him, you can accept it." Sorceresses are occult mediums: in other words, witches. Their familiar spirits are demons.[/QUote]Aborisha of Yoruba land will say Olorun gbo. Muslims will say Olorun gbo. Christians will say Olorun gbo. The Hausa atheist Mazaje said Wallahi. Muslim Hausas say Wallahi. Are they talking about the same Wallahi? Ask Mazaje. He will tell you. Finally, the disbeliever Pharaoh in the time of Moses, dreamt that a child will be born by the children of Israel that will destroy his tyrannical kingdom. Did it not happen? Consult your Bibles. Choose your versions. Even that of the Catholics. I intentionally not used the Pharaoh of the time that Joseph was in prison, because you may not get the meaning.

The white man Montgomery must know that the idolaters among the west, the satan worshipers, etc do call what the worship God.

is this not in the english language equal to Yahweh of the Hebrew language? Yet, the satan worshipers know that the name of their god is Satan. So the Yahweh worshipers may say the Name of their God is I AM? But I AM is completely meaningless and it is not equal to Ellah that Jesus mentioned. Is Ellah also just a word and not a Name, while Ellah is definitely the same as Allah of arabia?

aletheia is in a pot of hot water with the christian leadership.

[Quote]Muttalib was struggling to clear the well of Zamzam when: Ishaq:66/Tabari VI:2 "It is alleged, and Allah only knows the truth, that Abdul Muttalib encountered opposition when he was digging Zamzam. He vowed that if given ten sons, to make his labor less arduous and to protect him, he would sacrifice one of them to Allah at the Ka'aba." Bad move, because eventually he had ten sons. So, foolishly faithful to the rocks, he tossed divining arrows at Hubal's feet to determine which son should die. Ishaq:67 "They used to conduct their affairs according to the decisions of the arrows." His youngest lost. The boy's name was Abd-Allah, or Slave-to-Allah.

Now why would someone name a kid "Slave-to-Allah" [/b]a generation before Islam’s prophet claimed Allah was the creator-god of the universe?[/Quote]i shook my head for your ignorance as if your culture does not have paganism and they call The Creator in your language the same Name you call The Creator as Christian. is the Creator Jesus? is the Creator the Holy Ghost? is the Creator Yahweh? I read Jesus saying Ellah. Was Jesus wrong?



[Quote]The answer is as embarrassing as any in the annals of religious lore. For all Muhammad really did was promote one of the existing Meccan idols, [b]the moon god Allah, above Hubal, Al-Lat, Manat, Al-Uzza, and hundreds of others.[/Quote]Whats the name of the moon god? While you are going about in ignorance, let me share the first verse through the third of Surah Qamar to kill your moon god, assuming that you will split Jesus or holy Ghost or Yahweh [the gods you worship in two;
54;1; The Hour has come near, and the moon has split [in two].
54:2; And if they see a miracle, they turn away and say, "Passing magic."
54:3; And they denied and followed their inclinations. But for every matter is a [time of] settlement



[Quote]Islamic scholar Montgomery Watt, one of the English translators of Tabari, adds an interesting footnote. He says, "The name [not word] Allah has throughout been [wrongly] translated as 'God.' It should be kept in mind, however, that in the pre-Islamic period it does not necessarily mean "God" in a monotheistic sense. It is known from the Qur'an (29:61 and 39:38) that many pre-Islamic Arabs believed in Allah as a god who was superior to the other gods whom they also recognized."[/Quote]what a scholarship! Which Islamic school that conferred the "islamic scholar" on him? Islam, unlike any Judeo-Christian [and I know the Christians are trying to force themselves into Judaism, though the jews continue to mock them and their dead human god], and every religion, the fountain of knowledge is the Quran and the authentic hadith and sunnah.

We know what was said last and what was said first. We are unlike the christian Bible where it is finished in one gospel is my God, my God [he didn't remember to say my father or my partner, so we see the truth coming out at the end], why hath Thou forsaken me?. Then acts of apostles instead of acts of disciples began and followed by Paul and his cronies with their epistles.

my friend was quoting to me that God said in the Bible that who ever adds or takes from the Bible, . . . there is a plague waiting for him. so i asked if thats what Jesus who was the last prophets from the Jews said that God told him? or Paul put his imprint on it, to scare the ignorant to comply? how about Paul's personal additions to the NT, and subtractions in the from the OT? with Paul's statements clearly not from God, do we still believe what is drawn out of the Bibles? not me.



[Quote]Allah was a name, much like the Judeo-Christian "Yahweh." But Muslims desperately needed the world to see it otherwise. For if Allah was a proper name - not a word - their religion was a fraud. The creator of the universe can't be a pagan god, no matter how big a stick Muhammad swung. And Allah can't be Yahweh any more than I can be George Washington.[/Quote]except that when this 'islamic scholar' was writing, he was alive and George Washington was already dead. interestingly enough,Thomas Jefferson had a Quran. What is amazing about these Kufar on this subject of the Proper Name of the Creator is that since God told Moses that He was "I AM", they assume that God will never reveal His True Name to anyone, ever. Well, He did to His last Messenger [as]. When i say prophet or Messenger or simply A. S., you people already know that i am talking about the 'That Prophet' [check your bibles for good education on Muhammad [as]].

in the case of Muhammad [as] and his followers, including the muslims of today, The Creator shows Mercy on them and His Love and Nearness to them by making the true slaves overcome the fake children. While you are creating a go between to your Creator Who said He should be approached, we the slaves have seized the leadership and firmly stood on the commandment of the Merciful Allah and continue to talk to Him.

@Aletheia; « #27 on: Yesterday at 11:45:14 PM »
[Quote]@Topic: NO![/Quote]this is the one of the few times that you are correct. i wish you will have back bone like this to give us the name of the holy ghost in christendom. i know you will never be able to, so i will be on your neck until you confess your failure.


[Quote]Allah means[b] "the god"[/b].[/Quote]is it not The God, as well, especially when you, aletheia, is a worshiper of ghost and man god?


[Quote] The question which most Muslims and Christians are ignorant of the answer is this: What god?
An examination of the family history of [b]Islam's false prophet [/b]will yield the answer. What was Muhammad's father's name? Abdullah - Slave of the god (allah) What god?[/Quote]Does Islam have a 'true prophet'? Yes. Allah says Islam is completed on Muhammad [as], unless those prophets that Islam began with and layers were added until the process was completed were also fake prophets, as you have categorized Muhammad [as]? Jesus son of Mary was a prophet of Islam, so he must be fake, and for you with your concept of trinity, Jesus and the ghost are fake deities, too. They are truly gods and we see in the Bible where Jesus the fake god bowed to the true God.

As i am writing, i am talking to a Nigerian christian about religion, and letting him know that golden calf was named yahweh, though the Jews don't tell you in the bible, unless you will say they call it I AM, and you have to be extremely be ignorant to say that they didn't call their god [the golden calf] Yahweh? i will not be surprise because the topic says Jehovah. so try me, aletheia.

now, every culture including the arabs believe that there is God the Creator. my yoruba culture calls Him Eleda or Adeda [The Creator]. The Arabs call Him Allah [The Creator God]. I dont know your culture, i am sure your people have a Name for Him. What is the Name, or you are going to gravel like your inability to tell us the name of the ghost you worship, too? In yoruba land, all yorubas will call what they call Creator, the very Name or variant of it. Even the water creature worshipers, or the ogun worshipers are familiar with this Name. is it therefore not surprising that Abdullah of the days of ignorance and Abdullah of islam have this name in common, but their Illah are different. continue to hid behind your index finger. i can see your ignorance regardless of the distance between us.


[Quote]What follows is an illustrative incident from the family history of Muhammad from Tabari and Ibn Ishaq (Muslim historians) that reveals the nature of "the god"[/Quote]this is your evidence? ridiculous. What did Ibrahim [as] called his The God to his son Ismail [as] in Makka before the idols? You think it is Yahweh, or Jehovah or the I AM, considering that Jesus refused to say any of them by Ellah when you heard him on his cross? What did Noah call his The God? ignorant toad you are. you need to get into a cold water and let me warm it up so that you can boil over.

@Usisky: Thanks mehn for your submission website. You have helped me to strengthen my opposition to khalifa, the more.

I asked you to provide the number of Rakat for ecch salah. Khalifah didn't help you, because in this place he was silent, except to say that it was universally accepted and no dispute in there. Then he followed it with his poor math considering that he was a chemist or an agriculturist. Neither is known for their overwhelming discipline in Math like Physicist or Engineer is.

Was the only name people who practice Islam are known by is Muslim? How about assudiqin, assubirin, aaqushihin, aafizzin, mumini, etc?

You said Salah was completed on Ibrahim [as], but then Khalifah brought the statement of Zakariyah [as] as part of that salah. Was Zakariyah before Ibrahim, or it is the other way?

Do you make salatul Ibrahim on Muhammad [as], in your salah, when you make tashahhud? Did Ibrahim make that same salah [Allahuma salli ala Muhammad, wa ala ali Muhammmad . . . ]?

If you do not make this dua, note that Allah is Surah Azhab requires it of you, if you know what is good for you.


Since you could not supply the needed information from Quran, if you make your prayers different from what Muhammad and his followers [as and ra respectively] did, you need to abandon your wrong way and follow your true leader, Muhammad [as]. Allah says take what Muhammad gives you and do avoid what Muhammad forbids you. Allah says obey Allah and obey the Messenger. How do you refuse to obey the Messenger and you are saying that you have obeyed Allah?


And as to Hajj, I am wondering if Ibrahim performed Hajj and make running between safa and marwa? Or his tawaf around the Ka'aba and stoning of satan in 3 stations, and the slaughter?

@Usisky; Here is my email;

Galadimalou@aol.com


Send me your proofs. From Quran only. Yah kno.

[Quote]« #16 on: Today at 09:11:16 PM »

the mteorites were revered because they were considered as special power rocks showered from the heavens by the Gods. the ancient people probably knew that such objects can change the course of history, for example, the great meteor, which probably wiped out all the dinosaurs. the fall of meteorites at a certain date was also useful to the Pagan diviners and priests, for astronomy, astrology, to predict the future, etc.


btw even Jehovah a.k.a Elohim was a Pagan God and consort of the divine Godess Ashera.[/Quote]pagan man, i thought you have integrity to speak the truth? I didn'y know that your gods have blocked that simple quality out of you. if you are not sincere in speech, you need to sacrifice yourself to your false gods. i am sure that is better.

@Lepasharon; « #15 on: Today at 07:36:48 PM »
[Quote]Quote from: frosbel on Today at 03:13:02 PM
Jesus prostrated his face to who[/Quote]is this a question or a cut off statement, sharon? lets take it as a question. this question will make sense, if Jesus was not recorded as prostrating his face in the garden of gethsemane. was he just doing exercise, prostrating his face to himself or someone else? the person who asked 'prostrating his face to what?' needs to read his bible for the very first time. you too, lepasharon. unless you guys wanna be more ignorant, there is no reason denying that Jesus was prostrating his face in prayers, like previous prophets, in worship to Ellah, the God that the 'hanging' Jesus cried out to.

we in Islam say; why worship creation when he worshiped The Creator? The Creator is the One that you should be worshiping.



[Quote]I will tell you what idolatry is, it is bowing down before a false deity ALLAH and his three daughters.[/Quote]Jesus and me are both idolators because Ellah is Allah Who he cried to, worshiped in gethsemane, the Same i worship in salah. an one who is not as ignorant as nuclearboy in my advise of him not 'loving' Joagbaje will not be saying Muslim worships some daughters, considering that Allah reveal chapter 112 which killed false argument of offspring of any gender and the hadith about the victory of Makka where all the idols and their relics were destroyed or killed.



[Quote]Al-'Uzza, al-Lat and Manah, the three daughters of Allah, had their sanctuaries in the land which later became the cradle of Islam. In a weak moment the monotheistic Muhammad was tempted to recognize these powerful deities of Makkah and al-Madinah and make a compromise in their favour, but afterwards he retracted and the revelation is said to have received the form now found in surah 53:19-20.[/Quote]I remember reading the Bible where the jews said the hung Jesus was calling Elias, instead of Ellah the God of Jesus who he cried to. Imagine the people who were that close to the 'dying human god of the christians [and they do not consider themselves as idolators, when they are clearly worshiping the man Jesus]' hearing something completely different and foreign to what was actually said? This is the same here with the pagan arabs of Makka. They heard what they wanted to hear, which was different from the truth, because the following verse criticized their gods. This also reminded me of what happened as Muhammad [as] left his home for Madina. The idolators lined up in his path, confounded, blind unable to see him even so that he poured sand on their head as sign of their humiliation, reading Surah Ya Siiin up to verse 9 at least.



[Quote]Later theologians explained the case according to the principle of nasikh and mansukh, abrogating and abrogated verses, by means of which God revokes and alters the announcements of His will; this results in the cancellation of a verse and the substitution of another for it (Koran 2 :100). (History Of The Arabs, Philip K. Hitti, 1937, p 96-101)[/Quote]Mr. K. Hitti was an idol worshiper of Jesus. Or was he a muslim? Who do we expect the house fly to side with except the one with an open sore? Consumption of alcohol was finally prohibited. It does start from baby steps of even don't be under the influence when you are going to offer your prayers. Then it was completely prohibited. The verses that talked about it from the allowance, which means not even talking about any law in the 13 years of Makka to the complete prohibition are on the pages of the Quran. So is the not talking in Salah or when Quran is being recited.

why don't we have the same process in the Quran about the so called verses in Surah Najm; the star? it didn't happen, thats why and the enemies of Allah will make it up. Just like the jews made Elias up instead of Ellah.



[Quote]Also bowing before a black stone is pagan.[/Quote]never seen a muslim that ever bowed to black stone or the Ka'aba or masjid haraam. sisi sharon, shee o un gbo?



[Quote]Islam’s meteorite that they circle at the Kaba is like the Meteorite of Acts 19:23-36, six hundred years earlier. It seems pagans would think the meteor was a god and start worshipping it.[/Quote]The Children of Israel used to make Hajj to this place and circle it, until they stop because the arabs brought in idols. The muslims cleared out the idols and return the circling without the idols. I wonder if all the children of Israel were idolators then? Some screw balls always think with their elbows.



[Quote]"But when they recognized that he was a Jew, a single outcry arose from them all as they shouted for about two hours, "Great is Artemis of the Ephesians!" After quieting the crowd, the town clerk said, "Men of Ephesus, what man is there after all who does not know that the city of the Ephesians is guardian of the temple of the great Artemis and of the image which fell down from heaven? [ie. a meteor] "So, since these are undeniable facts, you ought to keep calm and to do nothing rash."[/Quote]how is this garbage related to Islam and Makka? I remember the golden calf. The children of israel called it yahweh. You may not know that was the name they called it. It was their god and the name of their God was Yahweh. So put 2 and 2 together, you will get 4. In your case put 1 and 1 and 1 together, you will get 3, instead of your saying it is still 1. Abraham and his sacrificed son built the Ka'aba and called mankind towards it. The bani israil answered along with the rest of the world and arabs.

Just because your soul didn't answer does not make the answering wrong. I wish you investigate the Jews making hajj before the idols were introduced. You will see how wrong you are. Sisi lepasharon, are you following me? Infaa mi?



[Quote]Abi o! make una let these muslims know!

wat is the history of islam?
where does islam come from?
wat was pre-islamic arabia like?
wat is the ful name of Allah?

the arabs were the biggest idolaters ever![/Quote]Were was the operating word in the were the biggest idolaters ever. That was then. The new dawn is that islam of Muhammad entered arabia and cleaned their hearts. Sis, join me in the clean heart club. The 4 questions you asked are homework for you. I don't wanna make them into quiz. Study hard and give me good answers, otherwise i will correct you. We are the followers of the another comforter. His religion will overcome all religions.

@Usisky; what will God scheme about? What will got plot about?

You seem to not know the correct meaning of Makr when it comes to your Creator and when it comes to Man to Man and or man to God.

Allah does not plot or scheme or deceive, etc.

He however plans. And He is the Best of planners.

Remember He said to the angels in heavens and Iblis heard it that He planned to create envoy [man] on earth?

If the hosts of heavens were not plotted, or schemed or deceived against in the matter of the creation of Adam, how will God need to do but plan what He plans by His Will on man, when he is righteous or unrighteous?


You sounded more like the christians and jews and enemies of Islam with your words other than "plan".


May Allah opens the heart of each of us to pure Idayah on the Sirat that is straight. Amin.

i hope you follow their footsteps.

its not too late to leave the woman and the little ones. they will survive without you, if birds in the sky can.

I actually wish all christians do this and in 100 years, let those who are alive count those who are still christians.

if there remain a soul, then let the process continue for another 100 years and then christianity will be a thing of history.


King Solomon the wise had 700 wives. That is many times more than 14 wives.


King Solomon the wise then threw in 300 concubines [girl friends in today's straight talk]. by God he was wiser than Jesus and paul put together, still.


only a fo ol will complain about a man who is within what God gave him. and a fo ol is born every minute. some were born in nigeria. and they migrated to england. anyone who love Jesus should behave like Jesus in life, marriage and death. nail yourself to the cross. its easy. there are many christians that will help you. do it when you turn 33 if you like. or before or just after it.


please dont wait too long, until you are old or when death comes naturally.

@Aletheia; You seem to ducking the questions. Where is your holy ghost? whats his name? I bet you don't have it because it is a made up thing.

below are proofs that holy spirit is a creation of Allah. I say he is Jibril who appeared as a man to lady Mary the mother of Jesus.


"The Day that the Spirit and the Angels will stand forth in ranks, none shall speak except any who is permitted by (God) Most Gracious, and He will say what is right. (The Noble Quran, 78:38)"

"A questioner asked about a Penalty to befall- The Unbelievers, the which there is none to ward off,- (A Penalty) from God, Lord of the Ways of Ascent. The Angels and the Spirit ascend unto Him in a Day the measure whereof is (as) fifty thousand years: Therefore do thou hold Patience,- a Patience of beautiful (contentment). (The Noble Quran, 70:1-5)"

"Therein come down[b] the Angels and the Spirit by God's permission[/b], on every errand: (The Noble Quran, 97:4)"

"Not one of the beings in the heavens and the earth but must come to God) Most Gracious as a servant. He does take an account of them (all), and hath numbered them (all) exactly. And everyone of them will come to Him singly on the Day of Judgment. On those who believe and work deeds of righteousness, will (God) Most Gracious bestow love. (The Noble Quran, 19:93-96)"

@Usisky; « #8 on: Today at 11:14:22 AM »
[Quote]i want u to also have to prove to me Salaat from AHADITH. all my arguments will stem from the Quran.
But i will by GOD's mercy also show u some AHADITH(sahih) concerning salaat.[/Quote]according to you, Quran only, without any explanation is sufficient.
Hadith and Sunnah are the explanations of Quran. how do we know that they explain Quran, except that they agree as complimentary to the Quran. to ask me to proof anything to you, especially something you do that is not found on the pages of the Quran is actually saying that I should proof why you are doing it to you. If you are doing it and you still dont have it on the pages of the Quran, it is Sunnah or Hadith you are following.



[Quote]what i will want u to answer are as follows:

1)show me from AHADITH how to perform all the Slaats
2)the units of all the Salaats from AHADITHS(sahih or da'if)
3) what to say during all the salaats from AHADITH.[/Quote]This is ridiculous. Do you make Salat? If you do, show me verses about how many rakah are there in Zuhr. If you can't, then you have defeated yourself, because you will know that Sunnah of Muhammad [as] is what you have practiced. Sunnah is action. Hadith is the word.
Or did Khalifah invented Salat?



[Quote]this is sufficient for my argument. Pls respond. do we go over now and start, or do u need some time?[/Quote]Your argument is da'if, until you can prove from Quran.

she will leave christianity when she discovers that Jesus was a bachelor and paul a eunuch.

if there was any joy brought by Jesus, it is that God is 1, All Powerful.

this is what all prophets brought. even what Gabriel told all prophets.

sat on the wall.


The Lord is the One Jesus prostrated his face to.
Anything else is idolatry.

Is Jesus anything but a human messenger to his people, the banu Israil?

It does not befit Al Rahman to become human.

then denigrated as they did the Bibiical Jesus.


that itself disproves his prophetic office, because he had begged God for help and later blamed God.


I am having a discussion with a friend today about Christianity.


I intend to skew him, with his claim that Abraham was a jew. I will start from there until I reach his god; Jesus.


Jesus will deny the present day christian without any one left out. You all follow the liar Paul who was a killer from before.
I guess he now kills your spiritual souls by giving you false religion, making a mere mortal God.

then creating a holy ghost from an Angel because he is unseen, thereby eliminating the expected "That Prophet" from the thinking of the gullible.

mr pagan9ja finally found his brother inreligion.

carry on boys; two types of ignorance.

a man who fulfilled a test of his prophetic office to his people

by splitting the moon into 2 could not be worshiping the moon, i will say

you dont split what you worship.

this is the reason the jews were eager to split Jesus by the cross.


and the christians are mending him together.



humpty dumpty went on the wall.

humpty dumpty had a great fall.

no worship of moon in islam, sharon.


yah know, lepasharon.


these shoes are made for walking.


these boots are made for walking.

before you know it, i'm gonna walk all over you.


some song, it is.

usisky; you need to stop following khalifa instead of the messenger [as].

i saw enough videos about khalifah. i heard enough of him from you. before that i read something about him.

america, indeed makes people kafirun, turning the freedom newly found to a thing of disaster.

Alhamdullah. I have been able to keep my sanity in the mist of the confusion of the west.

Khalifah in one of his debates with a fellow egyptian was disproving that the messenger was no more a messenger because he is dead.

if i had lived in arizona, i may have thrown dirty shoes on your khalifah to show him that he was not better than dubya bush; ignorant fool.



i hope you think hard before you open any thread, because you will have to show me the rakat from the Quran.

you need to follow Muhammad [as] instead of taking the "khalifah' as your wali. or he had revelation?

Unless a person denies Quran,he will see that Allah says in it; you are an orphan and We take care of you.

Of course, the taking care of, was through his grandfather first, then his uncle.

He was a companion of his uncle on business journey. That is where the tree come to play.


And those who do not appreciate the history of their leader, they are following ignorance.


This is putting it mildly.

So if Hadith and Sunnah are fabrications, please tell me Mr. Quran alone Islam, how many Rakah is Salatul Fajr?

Or Salatul Zuhr?

Or Salatul Asr?

Or Salatul Magrib?

Or Salatul Isha?

Please give me the answer. If you are smart enough, give me answer to all of them.


Then will go to How Tawaf is performed around Ka'aba


You will use Quran alone.

I wanna see how smart late Kalifah taught you.



Maybe you should have your own religion instead of forgetting that Allah says that whatever Muhammad [as] gave you take, and what he forbids you abstain from.


Did Muhammad [as] live and sat under that tree as a child? The tree is the physical witness. Allah is the Knower of All.

^^^^^^^^^^^^You seem confused.

The lair is your father Paul, who was a killer the first time.

Abeg. Go get married and stop admiring another man.

Hypocrite. I guess the whole yoruba is "wannabe".


You wanna become people of Lot? That "that was when i was in Love with him" is the beginning.


Darn man to man lover. We are correcting you and you are complaining instead of accepting guidance. Lover Boy.






Nuclear boy, Lover boy.

[Quote]« #312 on: Today at 06:50:43 PM »

@Sweetnecta:

Most already know you as a doofus so all you achieved above is to confirm the fact to new members.

I'm not too surprised though since your pedigree sees love as "lust".

Just avoid females less than 18 and remember they must give consent!

Illiterate Barbarian Donkey[/Quote]There is no donkey in Yoruba land. Just get married, because its the right thing to do.

Loving men could be lusting, since you are not married.

the Christians in support of oppression.

well done.

If you can' make sense of this, you need your head examined since you are thumping your Bibles, it is your reality.

The Gospel has nothing to protect you.

All of you rush to Psalm of David.

David a man you people accused of adultery and murder.


I guess England has not benefited you, any.



Imagine if your little ones were to ask why you go to Psalm, instead of the gospel, the book of your god.