smardray:
We took our redemption by jesus as history... It's disheartning

Now go ye into the depths of the minds of the Africans and convince them, they have been duped

But why are we all neglecting the adverse effects of oil exploration in the Nigeria?
We don't need oil to create energy,
All forms of energy creation sn't totally dependent on crude oil!

Why are there no African initiative to produce energy?
Why must we do what the world is doing?

Who is stopping us from being different?

People need to think
Stop following the herd and start following your individual purposes!

Damn! We Africans are blind!

Hati13:
There is no doubt that the Ancient Egyptians were black, but the question is which black people. The Ancient Egyptians themselves said, they came from the land of Punt. Ancient Egyptians used to refer the territory south of Egypt, as the land of Punt. Precise location of Punt is unknown, but scholars suggest that it stretched from the Nile valley up to Red Sea coast, and from there it further extended south ward.

The Nubians and Bejas(Cushite) were definitely among the Ancient Egyptians. Cushite peoples like Afars, Agews, Somalians and few other may be part of it. Some Bantus may also be part of it.

After Ancient Egypt was conquered by Persians, Alexander the Great and then Romans. Most of the Ancient Egyptians were assimilated or migrated to other parts of Africa and Mediterranean region.

Let's hope and time will tell who were the exact Ancient Egyptians.

This is exactly what Diop said!
There is no waiting for anything
Africans should stop waiting for people to rewrite history to favour Africa
African should do this herself!

It was settled in 1974 in Cairo when UNESCO called for a conference to put an end to the argument
Only 2 people came well researched and prepared
Cheik Anta Diop and Theophile Obenga

These two men gave evidences across
1) Cultural similarities
2) Language similarities
3) Scientific data, Melanin Samples
4)According to the Ancient themselves who claimed to come from the South of the Continent
5) Eye witnesses accounts eg Herodotus, Plato, Aristotle

It was unfortunate they couldn't come to a conclusion as the Arabs and European Egyptologist arguments presented were lacking substance in comparison to what he gave.
But you don't expect white Arabs and Europeans to admit they were black.
That would mean eating back their words and actions
Which is beyond impossible.

If only Africans read
If only

It is pitiful that the so called Islamic Scholars have nothing to say to this.
They can't stand facts
All these are facts

Anyone who can disprove based on historical fact should come out to refute this.
Asides that even the so called devotees won't stand facts!
They would all avoid topics like this like plagues.


AND YOU PEOPLE WONDER
WHATS WRONG WITH AFRICA?
AFRICANS ARE WRONG WITH AFRICA.


FINALLY UNTIL WE BEGIN TO READ AND LIVE OUR LIVES BASED ON FACTS AND NOT FABLES AND FICTIONS
FURTHERMORE GOING BACK TO OUR ANCIENT ROOTS
WE WONT GROW


AFRICAN CANNOT AND WILL NOT GROW!

Jerusalem was captured by the Arabs in 638 CE. Alexandria in Egypt fell to them in 643 CE. In 698 CE, they captured Carthage thus ensuring their political influence in all of northern Africa around the Mediterranean. Arabs did not move into the region until much later but tried to control it at the time with language and the Islamic religion. The Arabs began to invade Africa in large numbers from 749 CE when they settled in Alexandria, Egypt. They were mistakenly seen as African cousins and were welcomed as saviours from the oppressive rule of the Byzantium (Graeco-Roman domination.) The Arabs did not directly force their religion on the African Egyptians at first, that followed later, but unlike Christianity, Islam could not be translated into local languages.

With the Africans, looking for something to replace their banned traditional religion, and imposed Graeco-Roman Christianity, literacy in Arabic soon spread, and assisted by inter-marriages and Christian apostasy, (the reverse was punishable by death in Islam) to gain relief from taxation, Islam quickly became the religion of the land.

Although the Qur'an does not distinguish between races, there is a strong legacy of racism against Africans from early Islam because the language, traditions and customs of the Arabs supports the down grading of the African race. Dr. Azumah in his book: The Legacy of Arab-Islam in Africa provides several examples of Islam’s hatred of Blacks. There is the example in the hadith in which an Ethiopian woman laments her racial inferiority to Muhammad, who consoles her by saying, "In Paradise, the whiteness of the Ethiopian will be seen over the stretch of a thousand years."

Another hadith quotes Muhammad thus: "Do not bring black into your pedigree." In fact, the Arabic word for slave, “Abd,” became equated with Africans and Blacks with the advent of Islam. Osama Bin Laden, in a discussion with the Sudanese-American novelist, Kola Boof, in Morocco in 1996 said, “when next you meet an Arab, you should ask what is the Arabic word for slave, you’ll discover that the words are the same “abeed.” Which is why, when an Arab looks at a black African, what he sees is a slave.”

Muhammad owned and sold Black slaves. In fact, he ordered and built the pulpit of his mosque with African slave labour. The Qur'an encourages sex with female slaves in several places. Classical Islamic law allows a light-skinned Muslim man to marry a Black woman, but a Black Muslim man is restricted from marrying a light-skinned woman. As the literature of the time put it, "only a LovePeddler prefers blacks; the good woman will welcome death rather than being touched by a black man.”

So interwoven is slavery with Islam that Islams’ holiest city, Mecca (site of the Haj pilgrimage), was a slave trading capital. Quoting Azumah again, up until the 20th century, Mecca served as the gateway to the Muslim world for slaves brought out of Africa. "It became a custom for pilgrims to take slaves for sale in Mecca or buy one or two slaves while on Haj as souvenirs to be kept, sold or given as gifts."

Muslim Arab and Persian literature depicts Blacks as "stupid, untruthful, vicious, sexually unbridled, ugly and distorted, excessively merry and easily affected by music and drink.” Nasir al-Din Tusi, a famous Muslim scholar said of Blacks: "The ape is more capable of being trained than the Negro.” Ibn Khaldun, an early Muslim thinker, writes that Blacks are "only humans who are closer to dumb animals than to rational beings."

Ibn Sina (Avicenna 980–1037), Arab’s most famous and influential philosopher/scientist in Islam, described Blacks as “people who are by their very nature slaves.” He wrote: “All African women are prostitutes, and the whole race of African men are abeed (slave) stock.” He equated Black people with “rats plaguing the earth.” Ibn Khaldum, an Arab historian stated that “Blacks are characterized by levity and excitability and great emotionalism,” adding that “they are every where described as stupid.”

al-Dimashqi, an Arab pseudo scientist wrote, “the Equator is inhabited by communities of blacks who may be numbered among the savage beasts. Their complexion and hair are burnt and they are physically and morally abnormal. Their brains almost boil from the sun’s heat…..” Ibn al-Faqih al-Hamadhani painted this no less horrid picture of black people, “…..the zanj (the blacks) are overdone until they are burned, so that the child comes out between black, murky, malodorous, stinking, and crinkly-haired, with uneven limbs, deficient minds, and depraved passions…..”

Arabs’ attitude to blacks derives from Genesis’ racist fiction of the three sons of Noah – Ham, Japheth and Shem. Arabs claim that “the accursed Ham was the progenitor of the black race; that Japheth begat the full-faced, small eyes Europeans, and that Shem fathered the handsome of face with beautiful hair Arabs,” of course.

After the Arabs had conquered Egypt and shortly after Muhammad’s death, they began demanding Nubian slaves from the south. This continued for 600 years. Dominated African kingdoms were forced to send on a regular basis, tributes of slaves to the Arab ruler in Cairo. From as early as the 6th century CE, they had developed slavery supply networks out of Africa, from the Sahara to the Red Sea and from Ethiopia, Somalia and East Africa, to feed demands for slaves all over the Islamic world and the Indian Ocean region. The African male slaves were castrated and used as domestic servants or to work the Sahara salt deposits or on farms all over the Islamic world.

The African female servants were continuously raped before being sold to households to be used as sex labour. Of springs from the illicit encounters were largely destroyed as unworthy to live. Between 650 CE and 1905 CE, over 20, 000,000 African slaves had been delivered through the Tans-Sahara route alone to the Islamic world. Dr. John Alembellah Azumah in his book: The Legacy of Arab-Islam in Africa estimates that over 80 million more died en-route. A text from Dr. Azumah books, provides this quote from a Zanzibar observer about the travails of African slaves en-route to slave markets around the Arabic world.

“As they filed past, we noticed many chained together by the neck... The women, who were as numerous as the men, carried babies on their backs in addition to a tusk of ivory or other burden on their heads... It is difficult to adequately describe the filthy state of their bodies; in many instances not only scarred by [the whip], but feet and shoulders were a mass of open sores... half-starved ill-treated creatures who, weary and friendless, must have longed for death.”

A Muslim herdsman, in Dr. Azumah’s book described the fate of those who became too ill or too weak to continue the journey as follows: “We speared them at once! For, if we did not, others would pretend they are ill in order to avoid carrying their loads. No! We never leave them alive on the road; they all know this custom.”

When asked who carries the ivory when a mother gets too tired to carry both her baby and the ivory, the herdsman replied, "She does! We cannot leave valuable ivory on the road. We spear the child and make her burden lighter.”

Between 9th and 10th centuries, several millions of Zanjs (Black) slaves were imported from Zanzibar to Lower Iraq where they constituted more than half the total population and worked to clear saline lands for irrigation and to cultivate sugar. The African slaves were transported through Mombasa, Zanzibar and the Sudan. More millions of African slaves were involved in the Islamic experience on the East African route than in the West African/Sahara route. At first, they were used largely for military purposes then as domestic servants, concubines or eunuchs, in affluent Muslim households. In Northern Africa, many became galley slaves, and in the Persian Gulf, pearl divers, port labourers, sailors, or date farmhands. Some notable Africans from the Arab slavery experience included the Nubian eunuch, Abu I-Misk Kufur, who became regent of Egypt in the 10th century, and Sidi Badr, who briefly seized the throne of Bengal in the 1490s. There was also the 17th century great African Muslim general, Mails Ambar, who led the resistance of the Deccans against the Mughals. A distinctive African community has survived culturally in a place called Jiruft in Iran.

With the death of Askia Muhammad, the Emperor of Songhai, in 1528 CE, Songhai Empire started falling apart. This was the opportunity Ahmad al-Mansur, the Emperor of Morocco had been waiting for to conquer Western Sudan after his Spanish humiliation. He took his time to plan his invasion and when he felt ready in 1591 CE, he sent an army of some four thousand musketeers under the leadership of a Spanish mercenary officer called Judar Pasha. The army crossed the Sahara and was on the border of Songhai before serious attention was given to it. Songhai’s ruler, Askia Ishak II, called up a superior number of army but relying on traditional weapons. The two armies met on April 12, 1591, at a small town called Tondibi, about fifty miles from the capital city of Gao. Inspite of the brave stand of the Songhai army, the Moroccan soldiers overwhelmed them and moved into the country to wreck havoc.

Prof. Clarke informs us that: “The Moroccan invasion of Songhai and eventually, other nations of the Western Sudan was made all the more tragic because in most cases it was Muslim against Muslim. The invaders from North Africa and their European mercenary troops did not spare any one, not man, woman or child. They pitilessly slew the now demoralized citizens who cried out to them; we are Muslims, we are your brothers in religion. The war brought no honour to either side and in the years that followed, an appreciation of African intellectual and material contribution to Spain and the other nations of the Mediterranean sphere was lost from the respectful commentary of human history.”

The mid 18th century saw the growth of Islamic Tariqa, an aggressive form of religious worship intolerant of traditional or other religions, culture or customs. Tariqa had two divisions, Tijaniyya and Qudiriyya, and were usually led locally by charismatic, learned and well-travelled clerics, determined to purify and cleanse fellow Muslims and conquer non-believers through the jihad (holy war.)

Usman Dan Fodio of Sokoto (Northern Nigeria) and Umar Ibn Said Tall of Tukolor (Western Sudan) were two of such leaders who started out as reformers and ended as rulers of large tracks of land and people. Many African Muslim leaders have used the rhetoric of jihad to capture power for themselves. When the Yoruba leaders in western Nigeria were fighting each other for supremacy in the 1820s because of the breakdown of Oyo kingdom, jihad leaders invited from Northern Nigeria to intervene, grabbed the leadership of northern Yoruba land instead. Their advance southwards, “to dip the Koran into the sea,” as they called it, was only stopped after a hard fight at the edge of the forest into southern Yoruba land.

Samori Toure used jihad to take over control of a large portion of the Upper Niger region in the 1870s and 1880s. In 1881, Muhammad Ahmad, having conquered eastern Sudan, declared himself the Madhi only to be succeeded after his death by another Muslim leader, Khalifa Abdallahi. Rabih, after taking over leadership of Central Sudan (i.e., south-west of Darfur) in 1893, advanced westwards to take control of Bornu in Nigeria from another Muslim leader who had himself dethroned the ancient Saifawa Dynasty founded in the 8th century CE. By the end of the 19th century CE, nearly all of Sudan from the Nile to the Atlantic was under Muslim leaders.

The chaos and devastation that followed the invasions finally set up Africa for the intense Islamic and European slave trade that followed. As the Muslim conquest and religion spread throughout North Africa and across the Sahara into West Africa, so did Arab hunger to enslave the Africans increase.

This trade in African slaves, begun by the Arabs, went on uninterrupted from the 6th century CE, to the 19th century CE, softening Africa militarily, culturally, economically, socially and politically, for the joint European and Arab onslaught on African people and economy, from the 15th century CE.

Arabs were the principal raiders and middle men for the Atlantic slave trade that decimated populations in West African. In the late 18th century CE, with most of the slave trade along the West African coast dominated by Christians, the bulk of the Arab slave trade shifted to Zanzibar, conquered then by Omani Arabs. Omani Sultan-Seyyid Said, an Arab, as the new ruler of Zanzibar, expanded the business in slavery and the trade in Ivory considerably in 1840, by re-opening and developing old established routes into the interior, to the Great Lakes and the Congo. While retaining some slaves to staff their expanding clove plantations in Zanzibar and neighbouring Pemba, they as usual, exported the great majority of their African slaves. Omani Arabs, as the Sultan’s invaders were known, raided villages, killing and maiming thousands of people in the interior of the African continent, to capture and sell some 20,000 of them yearly at their notorious Zanzibar slave market. From there, slaves were sold and cargoed all over the Mediterranean, Europe, the Persian Gulf, and Asia. Those destined for Sindh in Pakistan, for instance, first arrived in the Omani port of Muscat from where they were shipped to Karachi. Some reached Sindh through owner-to-owner transactions, originating from points along the Makran coast of the present day Pakistani and Irani Baloshistans.

The majority of Africans and deep reasoning are enemies, you don't for any reason depend on another race for the advancement of yours.
You people expect the authority to do everything for you!
But in reality the authority and its institutions aren't here for us to enjoy!
They are here to plunder us
When are we all gonna realise
The governments and its institutions, religion included aren't for the advancement of our species.
Think you people
Think!
The government will lie to you because it keeps the status quo
The religions will lie to you because it feeds on your fears and it also makes you docile to reality
The school is there to teach you how to conform with the society and what specifically to know.
The schools don't teach about the reality of life, rather it disonforms!!!!

There are more reports of vaccines containing mercury
and cancer causing substances
These people openly state they want to depopulate us and yet our governments partner with them?
Bill Gates on many interview has affirmed times without number the necessity to depopulate.

If the richest man in the world is all about this,
Why are we partnering with them?
Why is it so hard for the majority to see this reality?

Read

Don't be deceived
Nigeria doesn't belong to the people,
It never has
It solely belongs to the elite
And they are the ones who feed fat from our collective suffering.
They are the people who aren't hindered by tribe or religion
They come from all geo political zones to and aren't as stupid as the normal citizen who is busy filling his mind with tribal and religious sentiment

The only sentiment these folks know only is FINANCIAL SENTIMENT .

The government is not our friend
And so are its institutions
There are and will continue to be just 2 classes of people
The rich and the poor
The government under this system of governance in which we live is sworn to keep the gap getting wider and wider
Its only a fool with a hollow brain that is gonna trust these people.

When y'all tired of deceiving yourselves we'll all walk there and demand the abolishment of the system.

Don't forget lives will be lost
That has been the ultimate price
Its still the ultimate price
And will continue to be for
TRUE FREEDOM!

If we aren't ready to die for what we believe in and what we want our kids to enjoy it, then we are not fit to be given the chance to demand for anything!

Why do we have these people in the first place?

Friedyokes:
Okay could u flat earth believers explain this in detail
1.if the earth were flat shouldn't we see the sun through out the day??
2.shouldnt it be day all the time ??
3.where does the moon/sun go ??
4.if the moon generates its own light I suppose using the same principle with sun shouldn't there be heat generated ??
5.we see the sun and moon as round celestial bodies what makes them round and the earth flat??
6.explain the seasons??
7.explain ships suddenly emerging when viewed in ports..how come the masts are seen before the hull
.

Answer this ones fest

Do you think I give a flying care if you think the theory is false?
Suspend your belief and be skeptical for once
I went to school like everyone else
So did you
I think every student or someone who values knowledge will look into this first before asking any questions.

I am a 100% sure you haven't looked into the topic
If you had, you wouldn't have asked those questions

Don't take my word or anyone's word for it
Do your own research

EVERYTHING YOU THINK YOU KNOW IS A BIG WEB OF LIES
UNDERSTANDING THE FLAT EARTH IS A BIG UNEARTHING

People have been conditioned and programmed to believe without questioning.
The best slaves are those who do not question things
And I tell you beware of such people because they become saboteurs of any right thinking movements.
Some slaves are so used to slavery that they would bring other slaves back from trying to set free.

You are dealing with people who DONT know
1)THE SPACE RACE WAS A LIE AND IT WAS JUST COLD WAR PROPAGANDA
2)NASA FAKED 6 MOON MISSIONS
3) ALL ROCKETS AND SPACE SHUTTLES GO UP AND SIDEWAYS
4)ROB SIMMONS A FORMER ELOLOYEE OF NASA WAS QUOTED TO HAVE SAID ON A SHOW WHILE TALKING ABOUT THE EARTH PICTURE HE CREATED THAT " IT IS PHOTOSHOPPED BUT IT, IT HAS TO BE"
LIKE WTF?
5)THERE WERE 3 BUILDINGS THAT FELL ON 9/11
6)HOW FLOURIDE AND PHARMACEITICALS DEGENERATE ONES BODY
7)HOW TAXATION IS THIEVERY
HOW RELIGION IS ONLY THERE TO BRING OUT A DRSIRED BEHAVIOUR
9)HOW SCIENTISTS WHO HAS TRIED TO EASEN THE BURDENS OF MEN AND MAKE US FREE FROM BEING SLAVES TO THE CORPORATIONS LIKE TESLA, KEELY FACED PEREECUTION
10)HOW WE COULD LIVE WITHOUT FUEL FOREVER
11) HOW WE COULD MAKE BATTERIES THAT LITERALLY LAST FOR HUNDREDS OF YEARS.
YEAH YOU HEARD ME RIGHT
HUNDREDS OF YEARS.


MASS IGNORANCE IS KILLING US
A LOT OF US ARE JUST TOO DEPENDENT ON WHAT SOMEONE SAYS RATHER THAN BELIEVING IN ONES SENSES.
YOI HAVE A BRAIN FOR Bleep SAKE
YOU HAVE INSTINCTS
YOU HAVE EYES
DO YOU THINK ITS POSSIBLE FOR US TO STICK ON A BALL SPINNING AT THOUSANDS OF MILES/HOUR THROUGH INFINITE SPACE?
DO TOU FEEL ANY DAMN MOVEMENT?
DO YOU FEEL FORCE PULLING YOU TO THE CENTRE OF THE EARTH?
ARE YOU A FACKING COMPASS?

IF YOU CANT PROVE WITH THESE 3 THINGS AS A HUMAN BEING BUT RATHER YOU REFER TO SOMETHING IN YOUR OBJECTIVE REALITY TO TELL YOU THIS IS THIS OR THAT IS THAT?
WHAT IS YOUR PUROOSE IN LIFE OTHER THAN TO BE A SLAVE?

ITS UNFORTUNATE AT THIS JET AGE
MASS IGNORANCE AND MENTALLY IDLE FOLKS BLOSSOM WITHIN US.

WOE UNTO THE GOVERNMENT FOR ITS LIES AND
PROPAGANDA
WOE UNTO THEM FROM STEALING FROM US OUR PRECIOUS RESOURCES AND FEEDING THEIR CROONIES AND IMPOVERISHING WE THE PEOPLE
WOE UNTO THOSE INSTITUTIONS THAT SHOULD GIVE US THE TRUTH BUT RATHER TELL US LIES.
WOE UNTO THE EDUCATIONAL SYSTEM THAT TELLS US 'REPETITION AND REGURGITATION' IS BRILLIANCE AND QUESTIONING IS STUPID
WOE UNTO THOSE FRIENDS WHO DISMISS YOUR FRIENDSHIP BECAUSR YOU BELIEVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

AND WOE UNTO THE WORD UNTIL IT STARTS LIVING THE TRUTH AND STOP LIVING LIES

khaynoni:


You noticed too. I was even banned for few hours for a comment that did not violate any of Nairaland rules oooo. That was why I stopped commenting on the thread. The mod(s) in charge is partial. Let them delete this one again.

You need to understand that they are only doing their jobs.
However freedom of speech is an illusion
Freedom itself is an illusion
Our world would change overnight if a quatre of the people aren't mentally asleep
Pastors, lecturers, got no damm clue or rather choose to follow the heathens view rather than buttress the bibles points.
Totally lost faith in church and school

jaymichael:
The title of Our National Anthem should have remained "NIGERIA WE HAIL THEE" You see Nigerians doing their thing and you no HAIL, even Adolf Hitler needs to run away from you.

Hitler was a good guy
Very few people know this

Christianity is a collection of prehistoric cults
Africans go back to your roots
The sad part is that our African tradition in Egypt influenced greatly the making of the religion Christianity, Islam, Judaism

[quote author=Apollux post=55546621]
Pls do, u will be surprised at some of the valid questions these guys raise [/quote

Very valid questions indeed
What others fail to realise is older civilizations like
Egyptians, Babylonians, Mayan, Biblical Hebrew
All these older civilizations knew the earth was flat
This globe nonsense didn't gain ground till the time of corpenicus which is barely 500 years ago.
And yet smart dummies, intelligent fools who have shut their mind to reason and fact but would rather scream behind "conspiracy theory" rather than tackle fact.
Many of these folks don't even have the slightest meaning of what "conspiracy theory" is!
Someone is challenging you with emperical data you are screaming its from YouTube
YouTube isn't part of the internet?
Closed minded people
Now I see why the people in the know never pass information across
Its simply because the majority of the people are too stupid to handle the truth.

IdeeEsperanza:
OP, what about UFOs, aliens? Do they exist? What about area 51?

I only speak of things I am sure about
My research points out to the earth being flat

About aliens, UFOs and all that
I don't really know but I know of a speech where the pope himself said there is no difference between the big bang and the biblical creation story.
The big bang theory was created by a catholic priest.


I deduced the Catholic church is in on it
When you also know that all the best astronomers after Copernicus all belonged to the Jesuit order.
The Jesuit order was created under the approval of pope John iii by Ignacios
The heliocentric theory of corpenicus was dedicated to the same Pope and it was under the sane pope that the Jesuits were created.

The question is how does a religious body produce the best astronomers across Europe and al those astronomers belonged to the same field and society?
The largest oberervatory is owed by the catholic church
Its name is "lUCIFER," all these things are on the internet for you to find out.
Too much fish for one to just ignore
Why the catholic own the biggest observatory
Shouldn't they be one on one in spirit with God?
But then

ilevic:
We Africans will always argue blindly. I said blindly because all our arguments are based on other people's opinion. I carefully took time to read the argument of the flat earthers and the round earthers here and all I see is, both parties based their argument on what some people have said or researched into. None talked about a personal research done. Africans will continue to feed on "they" (advanced nations) say until we stand and find out how things are.

Let me tell you what I found out, I got to know from an IFA priest that the moon is shedding its own light
He recited IFA panegyrics that the moon is distinctively different from the sun. Although I didn't understand what he was saying I thought he was speaking another language but I heard the "osupa" and the 'orun"
And he said according to original Yoruba traditions the moon took 28 days to complete its cycle
Then I stumbled upon the flat earth.
The I experimented myself on the moon itself
My deduction ; the moon light is colder than the shade
I also questioned a pilot he said it appears flat to him, but he was thought its a globe so why change it.
And the gyroscope the pilots use isn't electrical
Its a simple gyroscope!
I haven't bought the telescope though but I have looked through binoculars to bring back the image of a ship that has gone offsight.
Is that enough bro?

onyenze123:


you are wrong. The earth as a planet is nearly spherical with protrusion at the poles.

If you are right, there will be no space exploration.

But there is no space exploration
Have you ever heard of space bubbles?
In some of the videos of astronauts being in space there were bubbles floating in the videos.
It is the most unfortunate thing that NASA has an underwater training pool where all supposedly "space activities are carried out"
It seems like nonsense but do your research
You will find that not that NASA has a multibillion dollar swimming pool facility but that all space activities and walks are carried underwater.
Also none of the supposed rockets never go into space
They go as high as they can get and they rn sideways

Bahddo:
oh please! Who is the 'they' that gave you the impression that all Internet communication is carried out by satellites? Communications satellites are just one type of satellite technology. The others basically are observers, either of earth or of space. How do you think google maps came about? How do you think GPS works?

So it was flat-earthers that first revealed the use of fibre-optics? Which hole do you live in?

Where did you now confirm it from if scientists are trying to hide the super secret knowledge of fibre-optics? Anyone who knows anything about Internet technology knows about fibre-optic cables. It's taught in secondary school physics.

You were ignorant, but you cured it by making research on a scientific topic. Modern science made that possible.

The earth isn't flat. If it were, we wouldn't have varying climate, and varying sunrise and sunset times around the world. The round moon wouldn't even have a business hanging around a flat earth without gravity.

But do you realise that you have no solid proof for all you just said?

mzee11:
I just want to ask the op do you believe in space exploration because humans from different countries has been to space and all the pics have been round different private companies have satellites orbiting the earth if u think that these are all lies kindly explain why Google Map works on a round earth model and it is 100% accurate

There is no space exploration.
The 9 planets are like pieces of disc shaped lights
A powerful P900 Nixon camera would do it or a good telescope.
The funniest thing about those that yell its a globe is they have carried no research on it
Yet they bring formulas and fake interpretations
Mr teacher said this and that
I read this and that
You fool, everybody is educated
Everybody is taught the same old nonsense
What makes you think I didn't learn like you in secondary school or university?
Why do you think you are smarter?
If you are smarter how effective have those formulas and theories brought reality to your knees?
Don't you wonder why it has been the same thing each generation learns
Are we progressing or deteriorating?
Do you even ask yourselves who gives the accepted syllabus?
Where do those people get the syllabus from?
Then you realise its not the Nigerian government teaching you, you realise the Nigerian government gets it elsewhere.

BabaPissmaker:
What surprised me mainly is not the fact that the OP stumbled on conspiracy theorist online and took them for their words after sleeping through science class while he was in school. It is the fact that dozens of people are supporting his claims. So we have so many ignorant people on nairaland. The earth os flat sorrounded by a wall of ice in antartica. Unbelievable. So what happens if in try to travel to the end of the earth to see the wall of ice myself?. I will be shot dead by scientists so as not to expose them abi? An understanding of basic science would have cleared a lot of this misconceptions.

What is a conspiracy theory?
If believing in yourself and your senses means conspiracy theory, well then idk what to do/say to you.
Does it sting you to understand that the next convention on Antarctica is 2041?
And its the only treaty all governments haven't broken?
Do you know who Admiral Byrd is?

Can you be skeptical enough to ask
"What if there is an error in the most basic of the scientific theories"?
Which we have built upon,

You people have never even read outside your school textbooks yet you believe you know it all?
From the laws of thermodynamics, an active mind, not a parasitic one would be able to deduce the restriction that has been placed in the psyche.


All the sciences we claim to know, we haven't been able to help ourselves with it
But when people point out an underlying error
Y'all come out of your hidden holes in the earth to show to my eyes calculations and terms which have no relationship with reality.

Did you know Faradays law on electrolysis has been disproved?
I bet you didnt
Yet your brother, sister and family will pay to learn an already refuted theory
Its a shame

Stupid fools don't even know there are batteries that could literally last a hundred years.
We are in the 21st century
Yet we still use fuels?
Battery cars have been since the 1920's
Are we advancing or deteriorating?
The only thing that makes people believe that we are advancing is space
But when people tell you that space itself can't exist in the first place they bark heaven and hell they don't wanna believe they have been lied to so they hold on to previous lies.

Mark Twain said " it is easy to fool people than for them to realize they have been fooled"

legislatively:
please stop all these already, you became unserious to me that moment you said you traveled from Lagos to Ilorin often and you haven't seen any curve. You also said he objects are attracted to the surface of the earth based on density without knowing that even density is a factor of gravity.


You are not making sense at all.

I agree and I accept I am not making any sense to you.
But Gravity is
"the force that attracts a body toward the center of the earth, or toward any other physical body having mass. For most purposes Newton's laws of gravity apply, with minor modifications to take the general theory of relativity into account"

Do you u know where the centre of the earth is?
Do you feel attracted there?

Look it all boils to you believing in yourself or not
I can point to you other more compelling proofs but if you believe there is nothing reasonable that can come out of this, then I am afraid there is nothing I can do.

You have eyes
You have a brain
You have a mind

Don't be told this is what this is
And that that
Cant you sit down and deduce things out for yourself?

legislatively:
please stop all these already, you became unserious to me that moment you said you traveled from Lagos to Ilorin often and you haven't seen any curve. You also said he objects are attracted to the surface of the earth based on density without knowing that even density is a factor of gravity.

You are not making sense at all.

What is gravity?
Please enlighten me

gemale:

Look at the sky at night and see the numerous stars littering them. Is that what you call nothing? This thread is just an account of people very rich in imagination & conjecture but bankrupt in facts, logical deductions & commonsense.

The question is what is fact?
What does the word mean?
What does it mean to be a scientist?
What does it mean to carry out scientific procedures?
How are scientific procedures followed?

Do you just need to wear a labcoat to be called a scientist?
Present your facts.
My eyes need to be satisfied before my mind.
If that's not your way, then I am afraid its not empirical research.
Think about it, did you know that all your theories on the globe earth cannot be proven with practical science?
That's why you rely on computer generated images to tell you what to believe.
You honestly believe a telescope which is 365,000,000 light years away is snapping selfies of Jupiter and sending it back to you? Do you even know what a light year is?
Which camera is snapping he telescope as it is around Jupiter?

And you call yourself a scientist?

Pinnacle:
I have a very simple logic that will end this discussion. This is it: If the earth is NOT round, how is it possible to travel by air from tokyo in Japan to Vancouver in the USA (in just eight hours) without having to come back through asia, europe and the America (which will probably take up to 48 hrs)?

I need your answer if you understood my question, lol.

Does driving a bicycle around a circular flat plane in 2d mean the flat plane is round in 3d shape?

Schools have been doing a particularly wonderful job.
Its unfortunate that even when evidences are so glaring to ones eyes, one still decide to be closed minded
Just because some idiot who lived centuries ago said something
Something that has never been proven
Its hilarious how people disbelieve their own eyes and senses and chose to follow dem say dem say


Stupid morons who don't read, never read outside their school books even find it hard to understand 70% percent of our modern day technologies owe to just one man
Tesla.
Yet I didn't know about him till I got into a university.
Now I see why the world is like this
I used to wonder what these so called fraternities were fighting for
I mean we aren't in the slave trade anymore so what's the freedom they are all yearning for?

And I also see why they hate the so called Jews and why the world is upside down
There are more fools than sane people in this world

Let everyone keep enjoying whatever they believe in
The hypocrites who call Muslims terrorists have never read in the bible the inhumane acts it holds?
The fools who call Christians sheeps fail to realise their prophet Mohammed also believed the black man as a sub human.

Its pitiful the division principle is printed in the soul of some that no matter how many times they come back here on earth they still remain divisors

olihilistic:
I've been following this topic anonymously for a while now.
I must commend the Op.
but you're confusing yourself with your so called theories or researches in whichever word you chose to place em.

Do not be deceived, there is no confusion at all.
Science is a religion

khaynoni:



The same theories that made it possible for you to type those words up there for nairalanders to see? It is funny how some people will sit at the comfort of their homes and discard credible researches. You're uploading images and youtube videos and calling that research?! you must be kidding!!!

Swallow your own ego
Be smart and question things
If our education is helping, where is the Nikola Tesla of our time?
Where is the Neitsche of our time?
What about the Marley?
Is there not gonna be any Fela for our generation to speak about the ills in our society?
Where is our Malcolm X ?
Where are the brightest stars that follow each generation?
You will never find them in this kind of environment
This environment chokes them out of existence
You need to realise the flat earth argument never stopped it only died down.


Heliocentrism can't be proven
Geocentricism is the only way

If we live on a globe,


Explain why UN has a flat earth map
The UN was created in 1945
24 years before the supposed moon landings
And yet they still maintain the same flat earth map?


The father of NASA has a bible quote as a message on his tombstone so you stupid gullible idiots who believe you live on a globe why?