₦airaland Forum

GogobiriLalas:
The North will rule Nigeria till 2023;

I will like to place a wager on that assumption. I will like to take under 3 yrs. That change that we all pray for rest on GMB not missing a minute of breath. That an odd I don't like.

20pounds:
Tinubu deployed all the resources at his disposal to ensure that Mulikat Adeola, a Yoruba, does not emerge the House Speaker.


When you talk about marginalisation, are there not Ministers from Yoruba states? The Constitution made it mandatory that every state of the Federation must produce a Minister. All yoruba states did. Why cry marginalisation? Blame Tinubu for losing the Speakership cos he had his eye on what has played out now.


Problem is; people like you are pawns in his hands. You no longer have a logic independent of his. What he says is your position. You are a product of his propaganda! You will never believe me cos you are no longer capable of independent reason. That is the power of propaganda.

Please take the time to read my posts. Tinubu to me is a Persona non grata. He is a snake that doesn't mean well for the country.

demantruth2:
There are only six states in SW.
The highest votes for GMB came from Lagos, 790k+

Do the math or best, check the results

Thanks. So the nightmare was even closer than I thought.

demantruth2:
Your figures for the SW in 2015 presidential election are wrong.
Try check the figures again

Over or Under?

Equalizer:
With a margin of 2.6million, I think there were possibilities of him winning without the help of the SW.. The big blow was from NC and he didn't see it coming... Losing Kogi, Niger and Benue was indeed a slap on his face cos Dada,Aliyu and Mark were there to deliver him but they failed...

Even with losing all those states. Imagine what would have happened if that scenario had come to pass. The Ndigbo would have seen that just increasing their turnout in the SE/SS by just a mere 15% they could have won the presidency without any help from other regions. That was why I mentioned that Nigeria stability dodged a bullet.

Equalizer:
We saw it coming but from our analysis them, we assumed that NC was a done deal and with a possible win in Sokoto, Kaduna, Lagos and Ondo.. Politics is just game of smart entities but some moves most times looks risky but if you scale through, celebration will be yours..

Let me narrate the most glaring thing that I noticed from the last election returns. In the 2011 election, GMB total votes in the whole SW was a bit over 400,000 hard to believe but that was fact. In the 2015 election his total balloon to something around 6-7 million, and if I am right on this the man only won with about 2-3 million. That means had GEJ managed to keep APC number to around 3-4 million in the SW, he would have won. Now that would have been a nightmare because that would have showed everyone that you can still win the presidency without the help of the SW. Imagine the repercussion of that scenario for a minute. Nigeria stability dodged a bullet in my opinion.

Equalizer:
GEJ assumed that he has done more feasible project in the Northern region that their votes were now assured neglecting the south cos he believe we are his people and even without doing anything for us that we will still vote for him across ethnic lines but the SW didn't buy that idea.. They went for the highest bidder who has promised to make their son VP.. In summary, GEJ is my hero but not a politician...

I am neither angry nor mad at you. It was a smart political move. In politics you have to smart at the same time prudent in your judgement. VP just so happen to be a heart beat away from the Presidency. The SE/SS people just couldn't see the big picture.

KMJY:
I am 4rm North Central so let me answer you. Jonathan lost NC not because d NC have problem with jona per say, bt because of the internal crisis that bedevilled pdp in dos states concern. For instance, in my state Plateau, d crisis starts when Gov Jang annoint a candidate dat comes 4rm d same tribe as him, ignoring d zoning formulae that were practised 4 yrs. To make it worse, he refused 2 pay workers their entitlements 4 six month. Hence, the reason 4 ppl's defection 2 APC. What happened in NC was purely a protest vote against d actions of d Governors nt GEJ

Sorry to disappoint you, the so call NC were never in with GEJ. Your statement was just an excuse. If it wasn't, how then can you explain why a sitting President lost states in the North when the Governor of that state belongs to the same political party as the President. The North were never in his corner.

Equalizer:
I get your point but his aides that were suppose to be guiding him politically seems to be deceiving him rather than giving him good advises... He learnt his lessons the hard way..

I was so angry regarding the political advices they gave the man. When Sanusi was removed from the Central Bank. I sensed right then the most expedient move to make was put someone from the SW in that position that would have checkmate the APC inroad into the PDP rank. Let the Northern Leader of the House of Rep go and join whatever party he wants. He should have find a way to put another SW person in that position. I mean the election was coming and the man didn't make any move to prepare for it. I am sorry GEJ was not a politician.

Equalizer:
I see that as a friend but not a trusted friend..GEJ took most Northern elites as trusted friends whereby they are just mere political friends whose only ambition is to return power to the north by all means cos they hated GEJ for completing Yar'dua's eight years instead of stepping down for the northern candidate to complete their eight year tenure...

Jonathan was not really a politician in real sense. Regarding the 25% in differences, and how to appease the SW. Ever heard of a proverb that says "Let us pretend, and let the Crazy man think that he is the bride husband in order to get whatever we want from him"

Equalizer:
The 25% indifference is from the SW cos they believe they have the voting strength and number, their votes and loyalty is always at the market square waiting for the highest bidder with interesting offer...

Interesting. Question, will you consider someone that agrees with you 75% of the time a friend or an enemy.

rexbuton:
You guys just find a way to say my mind.. I said these months back and people were saying that we were wishing Buhari death , now here is a y[b]ouruba man [/b]saying it.. Unfortunately, in modern nigeria, no none is ruler and no one is king maker.. You have a valid point being a stickler for numbers but at times the measures are different. 1 + 1 is not always 2.. It depends on the base

You really think I am Yoruba man? hummm....

Equalizer:
The SW is the major problem we face in our the Southern region.. All they care about its their own and not ours.. the three southern geopolitical zones can come together and form a strong ally but an average Yoruba man will tell you that he is a Muslim and that he has trustee in the north.. The just concluded election just opened our eyes, by 2019, you will hear a new song from the Southern region..

Why cant we southerners just call ourselves as one like the Northern people do? Why does it have to be SW/SS/SE. We are southerns we have more than 75% of things in common, but we allow the 25% in differences to cloud our judgement. That is madness.

rexbuton:
I have always made it clear that by 2019, we would love to see an Igbo man in power assisted by someone from one of the ethnic minorities in the middle belt or around Gongola state. If the core north refuses to accept that, then the Nigerian project has failed. And the entity should be burned down.. At least the north has been in power since 1999 either as president or VP.. In 2019, they should go on holidays

I can see that you are not a numbers man. So i am going to try and help you out. Add the whole middle belt, along with your so call Gongola state to SE, and SS. I can assure you that you will still fall short of 51% which is the number you need to win. I have been saying it, the SW is the kings maker in Nigeria politics. Add the SW to your equation then you might have a chance. I know this is not what you want to hear, but it is the bitter truth. Last election the SW people could see that the number two position was theirs, and God forbid something happen to GMB they might even be in the driver seat. Just imagine that scenario a minute.

MugabeRobert:
Don't mind them.

2010 I was in a bar in portharcourt when yar adua died, you needed to see the celebrations. People declaring free drinks to commemorate with Jonathan and celebrate yar adua's death.

2010, we from southwest supported Jonathan with save the Nigerian group, the likes of Prof. Wole Soyinka, Tunde Bakare marched bare footed to demand the release of Jonathan from Turai's kitchen where he was busy cooking tuwo.


2011, we voted en mass for Jonathan but what happened afterwards?

He took the north and ibos as ally. He went and declared that ibos are the backbone of his administration and yoruba leaders are rascals.

Arthur Eze, ibo political leader said they don't want ewedu and amala party and don't want to have anything to do with children of awolowo and Jonathan was foolishly cheerleading him.

He starved us of any reasonable position in throughout his 6 years in power, he fought and ridiculed OBJ, the hand that fed him and single handedly picked him as vp.

Aside that Jonathan was too clueless and daft, he was also delusional to think bribing Obas in southwest or relocating to Lagos will make him win southwest.

I completely agreed with you. In 2011 the coalition was there. Just look at that election map. Jonathan could have seen that he didn't need the North to win but he lost it.

Ayus34:
thank God the guy only talked about what GEJ did for the notherner.....so tell me what he did for the people of southwest,because my vote was base on his performance for my region and the place I reside that directly affect me as a Nigeria but unfortunately he performed poorly.....so do u expect me to vote him
GEJ to me is a failure in all governance index!

This statement is why GEJ is no longer the President. This is the truth. My brother from the SS/SE we can either deny it or run away from the truth. Facts a stubborn things

Equalizer:
One Nigeria my foot.. The north believes so much that Nigeria is theirs alone to rule and that was why they ganged up against GEJ simply cos he's a Christian and a southerner too... Well, Buhari and his northern elders should sit tight cos pay back time is coming... The will hear of Southern Agenda soon..

What southern agenda will that be. Until the South comes to be identified as one. The North will always rule. Have ever heard someone from the North identify himself or herself as from North East, or North West people as we do in the south.To them they are all Northerners. In the south, we are either from SE, SW, SS or Mid West. Until we build an identity that we are one, I am sorry to disappoint you

20pounds:
This is just the truth!

Buhari Presidency is a product of propaganda and I wait to see him sustain his government with propaganda. The core north wanted one of their own to take back 'their' power. The person was Buhari. Tinubu keyed into the plan out of his own design to pull the rug from their feet when the time comes. He supplied the propaganda machinery in the south west, the Imams finished the job for him in the north. The rest is history as both partied had gotten what they wanted.

Sit back and watch the unfolding drama. It is a shame that when we want to make progress as a country, an event will take us back to where we started from.

President Jonathan has done his bit to Nigeria. He is not a saint and has his failings as man but history is going to and have started judging him rightly. God bless Nigeria!

Jonathan was handed the key of an alliance that consists of the SW/SS/SE but he went out of his way, because he despised the SW so much to courted the North. Honestly people look at the top positions in his administration, no region in the country was marginalised as the SW was. Tinubu, and the rest of the SW people knew that deep down the North hated the idea of Jonathan being the President but Jonathan, and his king maker, Clark thought they could changed that mindset through other means. Had Jonathan kept the alliance that elected in place, the North would have been out of the equation when it comes to power in Nigeria. I am afraid people I got bad news for you, this is the new alignment and one that i think will be in place for a long time. The North, with the SW are going to be in power for a long time. They can see the election map, just as anyone with an ounce of brain. They dont need the SE/SS to rule. People from the SE/SS can cry all they want about marginalization until the cow comes home. Election has consequences.

baybeeboi:
patiently waiting for the day this country will be seperated.
That bästard Luggard.

You got a long wait ahead of you. It aint gonna happen.

barcanista:
Tinubu was tried by CCB for "operating foreign account" and not for mismanagement/looting of public funds. Note the difference

I have always asked this question. What has Tinubu ever done for the Yorubas to be put on such a high pedestal of adoration. This VP mouthing off appeared not to have gotten the memo. Lets start with his mentor wealth, then we can work the way down from there.

Joeoku78:
I told my people(igbos) to support Buhari and the APC during campaign but they ignored me preferring to play politics of regionalism and religion that could not take them to anywhere. I told them that as far as the west is APC and the north is also APC their PDP is finished. In a contest of three major tribes for a position and the other two teamed up against one, then that one must be defeated. This is a simple analogy I presented to my Igbo people but they were blindfolded by jonathan and his corrupt men who threw money to my people believing that that is the cheapest way of seducing the igbos. The only correct people in the Igbo land are those that threw their weight behind APC from the formation of the party through campaign to to their victory at the polls. Imo state under the leadership owelle Rochas using its electronic medium (orient fm radio) have a million time begged the Imolites to vote for the APC presidential candidate (Buhari) since it was seen that the wind of change blowing from the north to the south-west is certainly going to yield positive result for the APC. Every well meaning Igbo man that understand politics of nigeria knew very well that Buhari will win the election even without the votes of the igbos in the south-east. It happened. Why are they begging Buhari to accommodate them in the govt? For me they should take their plea to Rochas who will convey their message to Buhari .If APC had gotten at least 25% in the five states of the east for Buhari, Rochas bid for 2019. Presidency could have been guaranteed. Igbos don't know politics.
If I were Buhari I will concentrate development only in imo state won by APC .

Thank you. I have been saying the same thing, You can only hate someone for so long until the hatred starts to destroy you from within. I am afraid the SE is doomed to political wilderness when it comes to Nigeria politics for a long time. You can forget about that nonsense idea of Biafra that is a pipe dream that ain't gonna happen. Imagine an Igbo man with million naira house and land in Mile 2 abandoning that for a new pie in the sky idea of a new country. An alliance of the North, and the SE will never happen. Igbo man has to come to terms that the SW holds the key. The SW is the bridesmaid when it comes to Nigeria politics.

12inches1:
SW will never build any BOND with SS/SE. Why would we build a bond with people that all they know is Biafra and secession. Nigeria will always be one so you guys should get back to reality. While GEJ was in power you people kept quiet about Biafra but now that he has lost as a result of his incompetence you guys have come out with your Biafra rhetoric again - Spoil sports. The reason why SS/SE will not smell the seat of power in a long while is that they don't believe in Nigeria so how and why should they head the seat of power? You should also note that the SS/SE is just two regions out of six and they need the support of at least one more region (or more realistically two because of their low voting population) to have someone from their region as president. Nigeria is not the only country with different cultures and tribes. U.S.A is a perfect example and they try to put their differences away and are doing well.

I am putting my money on it right now. After Buhari, the presidency is coming to the SW. Any taker? Trust me the SE/SS are condemned

babestella:
You are correct. What the north primarily wants us power, even if buhari fails after 4 years they will still give him even more votes. Then if we have to vote based on performance it will be an alliance between SW/SS/SE and even at that it's going to be a little difficult if we don't have the middle belt in the game because the north will always want to do their 8 years. So SW needs to build a bond of reconciliation with SS/SE & middle belt so that if buhari does not deliver we can vote him out since we are now all looking for performance, without this we may not be able to remove buhari if he doesn't perform.

You know what really pissed me off with this last election. If you looked at the 2011 election map, the alliance was there for the SW/SE/SS to win. Instead GEJ screwed up because of personal hatred of the SW. Now the genie is out of the box. The SW, and the North can see what anyone with an ounce of intelligent can see. that an alliance of the North, and SW doesn't need the SE, and SS to win the presidency. What a sad commentary.

relchange:
in 2011 the north also didn't vote enmasse for Jonathan, yet he developed the north more than his base in SE/SS.
he will be the president of the whole country, so he must develop the whole country- that is what he promised.
one thing i have noticed about you APC people is your inconsistency and double standards.

Correction in 2011. The SW voted for Jonathan and what did he do for them. NOTHING !!!!. For your information that was why this time around he lost. Jonathan wanted to form alliance with the North with the sole intention of leaving out the SW. That was his agenda, He forgot one thing, the North never liked him nor the region he came from. Just look at the 2011 election map, GEJ never needed the North to win, but he went out of his way to make them happy at the expense of the SW. No legislative leader was from the SW. In politics there are natural alliance and there are alliance of convenience. The North and the SW are natural alliance. That is why you see people from both region mixing together naturally. The SE and SS are just convenience alliance. It ain't gonna last.

Chappie:
SE &SS doesn't depend on GOVT.

Trust me you do, and I know you know that you do. Stop deceiving yourself.

ikennahillary:
na waoooo,even though the igboS did not vote for the General,that does not mean he should not do the needful.Buhari must carry every tribe,region along in his govt. OR..

Or what !!!. Look man you bet on the wrong horse. Next time dont be short sighted

dickrider:
They must be high on madness. After voting in mass for the PDP who only deceived them with a second Niger bridge on paper. They should relocate to otuoke let GEJ fulfil his promise to them there. They are so hateful that they voted out their son Ngige for supporting APC.

They shall forever remain irrelevant in Nigerian politics. Bunch of tribalists

I totally agree. Just remember Election has consequences. If I was Buhari I won't make the same mistake GEJ made in 2011. Look at the people, and regions that voted for you, take care of those first. Last go around was any one from the SW in any position of power in the legislative. I cant think of one. So why is anyone asking for the Senate President to be from the SE or SS. To the victor goes the spoils.

Truth234:
His approach to this election was totally wrong, he released Mustapha, empowered Opc, Okupe and support FFK, people that are not wanted in their states, hence, they failed him, to worsen things his supporters were more concerned about Lagos among SW states. I just don't understand FFK and the likes, this people know better yet they collect money.

This election was over when GEJ misinterpreted the returns of the 2011 election. He failed to noticed that the SW was critical in him winning the 2011 election. He tried to appeased the Northern people by putting them in high position of visibility within his administration at the expense of the SW people. First rule in politics is always know who your friends were. He failed to learned that. The Northern people were never with him, in fact they wanted the position he had. Look at the make up of his administration that should tell you what is actually going on. No SW person can be found in the top echelon on his administration. That was his Waterloo. What worries me now, looking at the returns of this election is that PDP is rapidly becoming a regional party with the SE, and SS regions as base. I pray that is not the case, because we need a good opposition for democracy to really function properly. We are all one Nigeria, either we like it or not.

harleybee:
I just checked from this... See for yourself

Thanks for pointing that out. At least the option of a run off can be put to bed. The most votes will decide this election.

Truth234:
You are very right but a lot people just don't see it that way until now.

This election was over before it even started. The moment the SW people opt out of the PDP alliance anyone with a grain of intellect could have seen the writing on the wall that APC was going to win the election. I am very sorry to say this, GEJ might have being a good man, but a politician he ain't. Any good politician could have seen this coming from a mile away. The SW knows that with GMB, the number two spot was theirs, and what does GEJ has to offer to counter that. Promises!!!!. Like the saying goes. I know love is blind, but it ain't too blind that I can't see.

Soreza:
IF THE WEST WANNA BE WITH THE HAUSAS FINE BUT AS FOR WE THE SE,SS,WE WILL FORM OUR COUNTRY AM SURE EKITI WILL LIKE TO BE PART OF US AS SHOWED WITH THEIR VOTES

You are delusional with that statement. Nobody is going anywhere. Too many people with vested interest in the country remaining the way it is. Talk to Igbo people in Lagos, do you think they want to abandon their multi-million naira houses just to satisfy some pie in the sky dream.

harleybee:

Well, apparently both have that in more than 24 states now. I THINK its the number of highest votes now that will determine the winner. 'I THINK'

Check your numbers again. In order for GEJ to have 25% in 24 states, that means he must have won 25% from 7 Northern states. Kindly name me what those 7 states were. The is 36 states in the country, 19 North, 17 south. Give PDP 25% in 17 southern states you still short by 7. I am purely going by the numbers, leave the sentiments out of it.