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Religion / Re: Why Did Allah Allow More Wives for his prophet than for the Ummah by talibilm: 3:07pm On Jan 15, 2015
Unbias:


Solomon never stipulated the number of wives Jews should marry. He also married many of his own volition.

Muhammad married 11 or 12 and commanded maximum of four wives for muslims. The important issue here is not the number of wives the prophet arrogated to himself. Its the hypocrisy displayed by the supposed best role model for humanity.

Try harder next time.

Prophet (pbuh) had the strength of 30 men which is proved a few times when he broke an unbreakable rock during the battle of trench when MANY other together do nothing to clear it , in another incident he wrestled The great Arab wrestler instantly 3 times and more. So he could have married 30x4 = 120 wives as he was also the King as solomon did, but he did not .

Even when he was younger at 40 years Arabs offered him to be their kings and marry as many beautiful girls he wanted only for in exchange os stoping his preaching of ONE GOD of Islam which he rejected. Think about yoursevles King and beauties ?

He was allowed in the Quran to marry as he thought was appropriate so he married those Mostly uncared widows and some in tribes (jews) to bring understanding etc and to diffuse situation in a war . So he was too modest for his Position as a King of Arabs .
Religion / Re: God! Muslims Are So Brainwashed! by talibilm: 5:49am On Dec 21, 2014
The OP is 100 % ignorant about the History of Prophet (pbuh) . I shall give a link that could msake you understand 0nly less than 10 % in Islam , for more study history of Prophet and the Noble Quran. Kindly read fully with the LINK in the last post.
http://www.ummah.com/forum/showthread.php?391515-Prophet(SAL)-S-MARRIAGE-WITH-AYSHA-(ra)-is-it-a-matter-that-Muslims-feel-shy
Religion / Re: ..so Many Denominations; A Blessing Or A Curse To Christianity? by talibilm: 5:44am On Dec 21, 2014
wiki says there are 41,000 denominations in christianity .
Religion / Re: Atheists Please Tell Us About Your Conversion And Deconversion Stories by talibilm: 5:41am On Dec 21, 2014
Religion / Re: The Quranic Verse That Muslims Used To Hide by talibilm: 5:12am On Dec 21, 2014
Ifeann:


Once again a Muslim quotes a text out of context. I don't know if its ignorance, lack of intellect or Taqiyya.
You quote ancient passages that was recorded when God was setting up and giving Laws to his people the Jews over several thousands of years ago, before the coming of Christ who came and created our new and improved relationship with his father (600 years afterwhich Mohammed came to preach stonings, beheading, rape of married captives your right hand possessed, child marriage etc ), the same God you are told to believe handed the qu'ran to your prophet. The same prophet that affirms the massages in the torah and injeel as I will prove below with 2 verses;

Thanks for your response. My frank opinion with due respect is you had mixed truth (bolded above) with Somethings not true but I am not ignorant nor I am using deception . kindly know the Noble Quran was revealed From Allah in 23 years in various situations, exposing Conspiracies of Enemies, replying questions of pagans, later in Medina questions of Jews and christians of Najran , so it very important to know in which circumstance those verses were revealed. We muslims cannot Interpret quran's Verses by ourselves (Proof:hadith). So let me explain you using Tafsir (explanation of) Ibn Abbas (620-687 AD approx) who was blessed companion of Prophet and a close relative of Prophet (pbuh) your first verse 3:3

Ifeann:

1. It is He Who sent down to thee (step by step), in truth, the Book, confirming what went before it; and He sent down the Law (of Moses) and the Gospel (of Jesus) before this, as a guide to mankind, and He sent down the criterion (of judgment between right and wrong) (Surah 3:3).
http://www.altafsir.com/Tafasir.asp?tMadhNo=2&tTafsirNo=73&tSoraNo=3&tAyahNo=3&tDisplay=yes&UserProfile=0&LanguageId=2

(Quran within brackets) Tafsir or explanation outside

(He hath revealed unto thee (Muhammad) the Scripture) He sent you Gabriel with the Scripture (with truth) in order to show truth from falsehood, (confirming) corroborating Allah's divine Oneness (that which was (revealed) before it)of scriptures, (even as He revealed the Torah) in one go to Moses the son of Amran (and the Gospel) in one go to the Jesus the son of Mary.

So kindly REFER THE BOLDED part '' corroborating Allah's divine oneness so Noble Quran came to CONFIRM those verses in the Torah & Injeel which were still not tampered (refer bolded part '' show truth from falsehood '') Confirming '' ONENESS of God in both the books . refer Tafsir of verses(use the above link ) and see verses 5:46-48 , 5:68 which will describe you all you claimed about stoning verses which were hidden by the Jews & Christians from their book because they Loved adultery. When Adultery is so strict it not possible to rape or have sex with captives unless they become muslim and the contract of marriage was made see verse 4:24 bolded part

''(And all married women (are forbidden unto you save those (captives) whom your right hands possess) of captives, even if they have husbands in the Abode of War, after ascertaining that they are not pregnant, by waiting for the lapse of one period of menstruation. (It is a decree of Allah for you) that which I have mentioned to you is unlawful in Allah's Book. (Lawful unto you are all beyond those mentioned) as unlawful, (so that ye seek them) marry (with your wealth) up to four wives; it is also said that this means: so that you buy with your wealth captives; and it is also said that this means: so that you should seek with your money marrying women for an agreed period of time (zawaj al-mut'ah) but the lawfulness of this practice was later abrogated, (in honest wedlock) He says: be with them as legitimate husbands, (not debauchery) not indulging in adultery without having a proper marriage. (And those of whom) after marriage (ye seek content) ..................................''

So Islamaphobes Misinterpret ( not you) to make it look Ugly but Its Islam for the first time made War crimes Law where Women or Children or the Old aged will not be harmed (no raping buisness as in Bosnia,Spain) if they do not take arms, Women not raped . places of worship Churches, synagogues, Monastries and people in them not disturbed. feeding captives when Muslims ate lees than them is in our records.

Ifeann:

2. If thou wert in doubt as to what We have revealed unto thee, then ask those who have been reading the Book from before thee: the Truth hath indeed come to thee from thy Lord: so be in no wise of those in doubt. And be not thou of those who deny the revelations of Allah, for then wert thou of the losers (Surah 10:94-95; 16:43)

It refered To Jews who entered Islam then like abdullah ibn Salam , Zaid Ibn sanah who were Rabbis so that the new meccans who migrated to Yatrib(medina) can now ask if they have Doubts. For clear explanation read this thread
https://www.nairaland.com/2033398/defending-misquoted-noble-quran-verses

Ifeann:

Even if you don't agree with Christians you have no right to question the bible, especially the old testament. Since it is the torah your prophet believed was rite and probably got his materials from.
So If want to know the truth kindly read FIRST what I wrote COMPLETELY with THE LINK then you will understand what is the TRUTH , but If you want to Prejudiced its upto you, your religion is yours and Mine is for me (Noble Quran 2:256) grin and from the ABOVE its very clear NOTHING is borrowed from Torah or Injeel but its the LORD OF THE WORLDS which sent all those BOOKS. But without understanding this (same source & Ego ) which Both Jews & Christians were fighting for centuries with Jews calling Jesus & Mary with Filthy words and each Blaming the other of Copying their holy Texts from the Other but the Noble Quran came and cleared the AIR of suspicion TESTIFYING All were from the same source (Like the Negus of Abyssinia said) and Honoured them with a new title ' THE PEOPLE OF THE BOOK "' and Glorified Jesus & his Mother as Legitimate and Miraculously Born and as MESSIAH that jews were Foretold. grin
Religion / Re: Time To Revise The Koran by talibilm: 1:23am On Dec 21, 2014
usermane:
@talibilm,

I do not agree with your explanation of Jizya. After reading mainstream Islamic literature, i have realized 'Jizya' in Shari'ah context is a levy that Christians and Jews must pay in return for practising their faith in the caliphate. Remember that under Shari'ah, Zoroastrians, Jews and Christians have 3 options; accept Islam, pay a periodic levy or face death. While atheists, agnostics, pagans may either accept Islam or die.

Please read: The Puzzled 's Guide To Jizya

Sorry, I did not read and i do not want to read because I've done profound study on it for a very long time, The teenagers without income are
excluded, Poor people are excluded and incidents like a Jew poor man was helped by the state in Umar's (raa) caliphate is a TESTIMONY for that and still more exclusions are there when you go into deep studies in Jizzya. Non Muslim population is on the rise in UAE, Qatar as per wiki. Non Muslims were MORE HAPPY in an Islamic State under RIGHTLY GUIDED by the Noble Quran, am not referring to MONEY cool minded Muslim rulers who made battles for plundering Money, they are nothing but day light LARGE SCALE ROBBERS under Muslim Names & banners who also fought against their own Muslim Brothers, kith & kin as well, who are NORMALLY PORTRAYED AS MUSLIM RULERS AS CITATION BY ISLAMAPHOBES. .

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Religion / Re: Time To Revise The Koran by talibilm: 6:27pm On Dec 19, 2014
A lot has been left unsaid and undone in the wake of extreme Islamic terrorism plaguing the world in this century. Who would believe that at this age, a religion or movement would exist with the sole aim of dragging the world back to the Stone Age.

Messages against western education are messages against humanity. Anyone with such pronouncement should be hunted down and put away as soon as possible. Our failure to detect this cancer has cost us uncountable lives and freedom and we do not see a quick end or cure to this unfortunate disease.

To maneuver and rid ourselves of this predicament, we must go back to history; we must look more into religion. Without much talking, we have countless religions that co-exist peacefully. One religion that has caused immeasurable damage to world peace is Islam. We must therefore reawaken our senses and be sane for a moment while we try to fix this problem.

The spread of Islam has been synonymous with Terrorism. These terrorists find motivation in the Koran. Having read the Koran and heard first hand sermons from Islamic clerics, it is clear and obvious that the Koran is the centre piece of terrorism. Like all books, the Koran was written, compiled and published. In this age, while we have regulatory bodies guiding what type of book is published and sold, I wonder why a stand has not been taken against the Koran in civilized countries. The Koran is filled with statements of hatred and incitement against neighbors and humanity. These same verses are recited by terrorists such as ISIS, Boko Haram, Hamas and co. in perpetrating evil around the world. It is full of passages and statements against freedom. It is full of false information. We must take a stand against it whatever the cost may be for the sake of our future un-brainwashed generations.

Muslim leaders must therefore re-edit the contents of the Koran if truly their slogan “Islam is a religion of Peace” is to be believed. Such verses that cause incitement must be removed from the Koran. It is time for Muslims leadership to revise the Koran or face banning of the book from civilized societies. Failure to tow this path means formal declaration of war on freedom and rights of world citizens. It is time to go beyond words to acting against forces of evil. If peace loving Muslims find it hard fighting their brothers gone astray, there pen should do the needful. After all, the pen is mightier than the sword. Muslim leaders have failed to separate and educate Muslim faithful on how to follow the said peaceful teachings of the Koran; they should not hesitate to purge all verses taken out of context by terrorist. That is the least they can do.
Furthermore, Re-editing the Koran will be a big challenge that will attract widespread condemnation; such condemnations must not stand in the way of doing the right thing. The Koran should be banned from Non-Muslim countries with immediate effect because it has become a constitution of terrorists. This ban should be enforced till all inciting verses are purged from the book.

Do we have anything more to fear with such action? Terrorists make no secret of their desire to rule the world with their barbaric laws. They proclaim openly their desire to wipe out a whole country from the face of the map. They kill without restraint and mercy. What else do we need to hear? Shall we wait till a country is wiped out when they lay their hands on nuclear weapons and respond in kind? Is the genocide perpetrated by ISIS not worth the banning? Is the intolerance and extreme laws of Saudi Arabia, turkey, Iraq, Afghanistan against other religions, against freedom of worship and freedom of women not worth it? How long will our flaccid state last.

It is time to urge Muslim leadership to take a stand and revise the Koran while the world battles Islamic Terrorism. It is the least they can do.

Islam Spread to a Large part of the world when Umar(raa) was Caliph, What & How did he acheive ? listen to the video and tell me who is responsible for your ignorant thoughts


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3JRs9_jvB8


So who should Change


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlLZKUuc2jk

So let the fanatics in both Religions look at these videos and see who should change. Islam is slandered for levy of Jizzya tax on non muslims while Muslims pay zakat tax but the Non muslims in Islamic state do not pay zakat tax but Jizzya tax only. read below a copy & past what is Jizzya


The seriousness with which the Muslims took their covenants with the non-Muslims is well illustrated by the following incident.
During the reign of the second caliph, ‘Umar bin al-Khattaab may Allaah be pleased with him the Roman emperor, Heraclius, raised a
huge army to repel the Muslim forces. It was, thus, incumbent upon the Muslims to concentrate their efforts on the battle. When the
commander of the Muslims, Abu ‘Ubaydah may Allaah be pleased with him heard this news, he wrote to his officials in all conquered
cities in Syria and ordered them to return the Jizyah which had been levied in those cities. He also addressed the public saying;
“We are returning your money because we know that the enemy has gathered troops. By the terms stipulated in the covenant, We have
obliged us to protect you. However, since we are now unable to fulfil these conditions, we have returned to you what you paid to us. We shall abide by the terms agreed upon in the covenant, if Allaah helps us to rout the enemy”. Thus, a huge amount was taken from the state treasury and returned to the Christians, making them very happy. They prayed for and blessed the Muslim commanders. They exclaimed: “May Allaah help you to overcome your enemies and return you to us safely. If the enemy were in your place, they would never have returned anything to us, rather they would have taken all our remaining property!"

We see that Muslims not only allowed Christians to remain Christians but that the Christians themselves preferred Muslim rule over that of Heraclius, who was himself a Christian.


So the Noble Quran verses are taken out of context. quote which verse I will let you know from Our records not my own ideas. Quran 2:256
says '' There is no compulsion in Religion.....'' grin

See the Bible

Anyone who dreams or prophesizes anything that is against God, or anyone who tries to turn you from God, is to be put to death. (Deuteronomy 13:5)

If anyone, even your own family suggests worshipping another God, kill them. (Deuteronomy 13:6-10)

If you find out a city worships a different god, destroy the city and[b] kill all [/b]of it's inhabitants... even the animals. (Deuteronomy 13:12-15) shocked

Kill anyone with a different religion. (Deuteronomy 17:2-7)."


So What's YOUR comments on this killing buisness ? Jizzya is a kind idea. Quran is the Undistorted Word of God That None can change unlike Bible OT & NT with 40 authors
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSGd8uzFxxY &

Porn materials genesis 19:30, Incest of lots daughters
geensis 35:22 reuben sex with mother
geneis 21 : 1 sara
ezekiel ch 23 v, 3,8.20,21
2 samuel 13 :6 rape your own sister


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3epdW5fjqg

. So these junky stories will make your children mind a junk & pervert, so like the lady in UK told . So you cant apply the same standard to Quran which appreciates all Prophets as righteous and does not make them Criminals & gives religious Freedom 2:256 & it cant be altered.
Religion / Re: Shocking News: The Ex-muslim Priest Said That ”all Muslim Must Change To Christi by talibilm: 6:11pm On Dec 19, 2014
rilwanoba:
@last poster.

What provoked the Christian Crusades?

the wicked spread of Islam is the answer.

that all those evil acts occured in the past is no justification for Islam to do the same in this civilized age.

terorists keep using your koran to wreck havoc ANd you are powerless to stop them.

YES it looks you are 2 much dejected with Islam so let me close my arguments and you better listen from unbiased Non Muslims

www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlLZKUuc2jk


We muslims Follow him in the Below video even in Tarweeh Prayer 20 rakat in Ramadhan from Our Below Caliph, So Listen to the video the truth,


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3JRs9_jvB8

So which war you are talikng about My friend ? grin Even the Christian king is welcoming Muslim king who travels all ALONE without any Fear.
This FACTS shows you are under influence of the false Propaganda

Islan is condemned for Jizzya Tax on Non muslims while Muslims pay Zakat but Non muslims do not pay that but pay JIZZYA instead.so what is Jizzya see the beow copy & paste



'' The seriousness with which the Muslims took their covenants with the non-Muslims is well illustrated by the following incident.
During the reign of the second caliph, ‘Umar bin al-Khattaab may Allaah be pleased with him the Roman emperor, Heraclius, raised a
huge army to repel the Muslim forces. It was, thus, incumbent upon the Muslims to concentrate their efforts on the battle. When the
commander of the Muslims, Abu ‘Ubaydah may Allaah be pleased with him heard this news, he wrote to his officials in all conquered
cities in Syria and ordered them to return the Jizyah which had been levied in those cities. He also addressed the public saying;
“We are returning your money because we know that the enemy has gathered troops. By the terms stipulated in the covenant, We have
obliged us to protect you. However, since we are now unable to fulfil these conditions, we have returned to you what you paid to us. We shall abide by the terms agreed upon in the covenant, if Allaah helps us to rout the enemy”. Thus, a huge amount was taken from the state treasury and returned to the Christians, making them very happy. They prayed for and blessed the Muslim commanders. They exclaimed: “May Allaah help you to overcome your enemies and return you to us safely. If the enemy were in your place, they would never have returned anything to us, rather they would have taken all our remaining property!"

We see that Muslims not only allowed Christians to remain Christians but that the Christians themselves preferred Muslim rule over that of Heraclius, who was himself a Christian.
Religion / Re: Shocking News: The Ex-muslim Priest Said That ”all Muslim Must Change To Christi by talibilm: 3:06pm On Dec 19, 2014
adeoladele:
I pray u will understand bloody religion

Brother you are Brain washed by videos who are caught red handed by this revert Priest since he knew their in & outs & plans

Yushua Evans catches red handed those liars claiming to be sheiks & scholars converting to christianity (at ticker 7 mints onwards)

www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Qr6Oco1hI0


THIS IS A COPY & PASTE

The concept of Islam as an intrinsically violent, anti-progressive opponent in the modern world is both ignorant and dangerous. The new prominence of this idea in America provides a good measure of the distorted information that exists in our political environment. It's almost as though the bloody, parochial views of Ariel Sharon on the nature of Palestinians had been exalted to a world view, worthy of every statesman's consideration.

How easily we forget that the history of organized Christianity provides almost certainly the bloodiest tale in all of human history.

The Crusades, that dark saga of Christianity written in blood and terror, continued sporadically over hundreds of years. They served little other purpose than gathering wealth through spoils and sacking cities and easing the periodic domestic political difficulties of the papacy and major princes of Europe.

We hear of the treatment of women under Islam in certain places, not remembering that Christian women were left locked in iron chastity belts for years while their husbands raped their way across the Near East. And the character of Saladin, hard warrior that he was, shines nobly in history compared to the moral shabbiness of Richard Lionheart.

Europe wove a remarkable tapestry of horrors in the name of Christianity from the beginning of the modern era. There was the Holy Inquisition, the Expulsion of the Jews from Spain, the Reformation, the Counter-Reformation, the Thirty Years' War, the English Civil War, the St Bartholomew Massacre, Cromwell's slaughter in Ireland, the enslavement and widespread extermination of native peoples in the Americas, the Eighty Years' War in Holland, the expulsion of the Huguenots from France, the pogroms, the burning of witches, and numberless other horrific events right down to The Holocaust itself, which was largely the work of people who considered themselves, as did the slave drivers of America's South, to be Christians.

Over and above the conflicts motivated by religion, European and American history, a history dominated by people calling themselves Christian, runs with rivers, lakes, and whole seas of blood. Just a sampling includes the Hundred Years' War, the War of the Spanish Succession, the Seven Years' War, the slave trade, the French Revolution, the Vendée, the Napoleonic Wars, the Trail of Tears, the Opium War, African slavery in the American South, the American Civil War, the Franco-Prussian War, the massacre in the Belgium Congo, the Crimean War, lynchings, the Mexican War, the Spanish-American War, the Korean War, the Vietnam War, World War I, the Spanish Civil War, and World War II.

How anyone with this heritage can describe Islam as notably bloodthirsty plainly tells us that immense ignorance is at work here.

What limited knowledge I have of Islam is enough to know that there is no history, despite bloody characters like Tamerlane, to overtop Europe's excesses, and, in some cases, there has been generosity of spirit exceeding that shown by Christians.


Abuamam:
Nameless muslim 'priest' knows less of the Qur'an than my 6 year old son. I wonder what he was teaching them in the nameless 'parish' mosque where he worked in a nameless location.
There is a tendency to believe that which gives us comfort and joy. Lack of evidence, or evidence to the contrary is not a barrier. The only barrier to gullibility is logic and intelligence.

PS: even if a thousand muslim 'priests' changed to whatever the latest polytheistic sect is in vogue, in Islam we do not blindly follow 'charismatic' leaders, nor do we have any intermediaries between us and our Creator. The original sources are there for us to read, and God gave every individual a brain to ponder. So don't waste your time fabricating this nonsense. It only works on the extremely gullible.

good reply brother grin
Religion / Re: What Is Religion And How Is It Explainable? by talibilm: 2:40pm On Dec 19, 2014
menesheh:



Am formally a jew


But presently Jewish and Mohamedism are two of the most delusional religion ever especially Islam.

Nice to KNOW & have a Jew REPLIER, SIR, Shalom. So kindly shed somelight when I had asked the question to a person a Priest, i suppose who gave me these facts saying Jews were no better than Christians in taking man as son of god ( My idea that is Rabbi Ezra )

QUESTION '''Kindly give references LINKS as a Proof for what ever you claim and the same can be expected from me, Since Claim on the religion is always sensitive even if there is NO JEW HERE to respond Since Your Claim are a 100% contrast to what the Jews Boast..

MY QUOTE ''''.... Judaism has never accepted any of the claimed fulfillments of prophecy that Christianity attributes to Jesus. Judaism also forbids the worship of a person as a form of idolatry, since the central belief of Judaism is the absolute unity and singularity of God......'' (wiki)
It does now - now that it must distinguish itself from Christianity.
But before Jesus.....



HIS REPLY
And at that hour that Son of Man was named
2 In the presence of the Lord of Spirits,
And his name before the Head of Days.
3 Yea, before the sun and the signs were created,
Before the stars of the heaven were made,
His name was named before the Lord of Spirits.
4 He shall be a staff to the righteous whereon to stay themselves and not fall,
And he shall be the light of the Gentiles,
And the hope of those who are troubled of heart.
5 All who dwell on earth shall fall down and worship before him,
And will praise and bless and celebrate with song the Lord of Spirits.
6 And for this reason hath he been chosen and hidden before Him,
Before thecreation of the world and for evermore.
7 And the wisdom of the Lord of Spirits hath revealed him to the holy and righteous;
For he hath preserved the lot of the righteous,
Because they have hated and despised this world of unrighteousness,
And have hated all its works and ways in the name of the Lord of Spirits:
For in his name they are saved,
And according to his good pleasure hath it been in regard to their life.

1 Enoch 48:2-7. Robert Henry Charles, ed., Pseudepigrapha of the Old Testament, vol. 2 (Bellingham, WA: Logos Bible Software, 2004), 216–217.

Son of Man to be worshipped?

MY PROOF FROM LINK : http://www.ummah.com/forum/showthread.php?413768-Why-jesus-is-not-the-son-of-god/page24

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Religion / Re: What Is Religion And How Is It Explainable? by talibilm: 1:21am On Dec 19, 2014
If you want to Give grammar to anything only those best in that could give exactly.

Though Judaism is know to be older Religion it had started from Moses and they claim Abraham was their Forefather but Among Religions Islam Claims That Adam & Eve followed Islam and their Concept of Religion is that its a COMPLETE way of Life that will make you successful in this life we live and the life after Death. Islam Claims Muhammad (pbuh) the Messenger of God who delivered the Noble Quran which are undistorted Gods's word still available preserved in its original language of Revelation from God, The Creator through his Angel Gabriel is the manual to life added by the Demonstrator or Prophet Muhammad who lived by Enacting The Quran in all walks of life being apoor but still the King of Arabs, as Husband, loving Father & a friend and a Trader , a statesman and a Ruler and a warrior etc etc, his teachings are hadith and his method is called the sunnah.

In my opinion Islam is a very practical Religion and does not LIE against the Basic Human nature.
Religion / Re: Facts in Koran Muslim, Jesus Is Your God, And He Is Your Only Way To Escape Hell by talibilm: 5:36pm On Dec 18, 2014
highyo:
Muslim Believe that Jesus Christ is not God…………..… fine and Ok
For Muslim, God was only Allah………………………..fine and OK
And Muslim believed Allah never got married, so no sons for Allah……………………fine and OK
So Muslim preached there that Jesus is not God. …………………………..fine and OK
THEN WHO IS JESUS SINCE HE’S NOT GOD THEN WHO IS HE ?
Let’s first focused on the Koran to see who is Jesus
Koran 114 chapters, 6666 the name of prophet Mohammad was only mention in 4 places, but the name of Jesus was found in 25 places,
Is this not confusing?
Why does the Koran give more preferences to Jesus?
Ok.
In the holy Koran, it seems there is no single women’s name in Koran: the Prophet Mohammad’s mother’s name or wife’s name or children’s’ name, No
In the Koran, there is only one woman’s name that we can found: is Mari am, the mother of Jesus. No other woman’s name.
Also, in the Holy Koran chapter 3, the name of the chapters is “Family of Mari am,” and the holy Koran chapter 19, the name of the Chapter itself is “Mari am” One Chapter is “Mari am”
I think we should be curious to know why the Koran says all these things.
About Mari am, Holy Koran chapter 3 verse 34 onwards says that Mary was born without original sin, she never committed any sin in her life, she was ever virgin
Also Koran chapter 50 verses 23 say that she went to Heaven with her physical body.
Even the Assumption is written in the holy Koran.
Then about Jesus,
If we should Read Koran Chapter 3 verses 45 to 55 verses, there are 10 points which the Koran makes about Jesus.
The first thing Koran says, (Phrase in Arabic) “Word of God” and the second things (Phrase in Arabic) says “The spirit of God” and the third is (phrase in Arabic) “Jesus Christ”
So Koran gave the name of Jesus to be Word of God, Spirit of God, and Jesus Christ.
Also Koran says that Jesus spoke when he was very small, like 2days old, after his birth, he began to speak, and Koran says Jesus created a live bird with mud. i.e. he took some mud, formed a bird, when he breathed into it, it became a live bird. So Jesus can give life, for he gave life to mud clay, and then Koran says that Jesus cured a man born blind and a man with leprosy, etc
Curiously, the Koran says that Jesus gave life to dead people; Jesus went to heaven; Jesus is still alive and he will come again.
Seeing all these things in Koran and what it says about Mohammad, according to Koran, Prophet Mohammad is not the Word of God, not the Spirit of God, never spoke when he was 2days old, never created a bird with mud, never cure any sick people, never raised any dead people, and he himself is dead and according to Islam he is not alive and he will never come back.
So there is a lot of difference between these two prophets, even if Muslim will not call Jesus God as per their idea, He’s just a prophet but he is a prophet greater than Mohammad.”
So one question for the Muslims, HOW DID GOD CREATED THE UNIVERSE?
I believe you know is trough the WORD?
Then WORD is creator or creation? i.e. is the word of God creator or Creation,
Koran says Jesus is Word of God. Since Word of God is creator, which means Jesus is creator, and then the Muslim must believe in Jesus as their Lord and their Creator, so Muslim, Jesus is your God, and you must confess him as your Lord and savior to escape Hell


If you use that standard of times of names Moses comes 2-3 times more than Jesus ans so is Abraham , so do not be shortsighted .

Allah creates by the word in the sense commands 'BE ' and it is similarly he can destroy as well. So taking Word as God as another absurdity. So we worship the owner Of the Word but not the word. Your example of Worshiping Word is like getting afraid of the Stick in the class but not the teacher. shocked

You can assume Jesus greater than prophet MOhammed (pbuh) But accept that Jesus is not god , nor son of God, but a Creation or a slave of God. If he is a son who is this ?
Exodus 4:22King James Version (KJV)
22 And thou shalt say unto Pharaoh, Thus saith the Lord, Israel is my son, even my firstborn:

So that will make Jesus second born, even Issac & John were born to 90 year infertile Parents miraculously so there 4 sons and not fo foget Adam & eve .Quran ch 50 verse 23 didnot talk about Mary so its a LIE http://quran.com/50/23 . only kindly check yourself than believing biased Lying people. So see Quran what it says about Jesus 'claims by you

Noble Quran 19:88-92

''They say: "(Allah) Most Gracious has begotten a son!''

"Indeed ye have put forth a thing most monstrous!''

''At it the skies are ready to burst, the earth to split asunder, and the mountains to fall down in utter ruin''

,''That they should invoke a son for (Allah) THE Most Gracious.''

''For it is not consonant with THE Majesty of (Allah) THE Most Gracious that He should beget a son''


To those who call SON of God , how about If I address you as a RAT, a Pig,a Dog ( don't scold me please, sorry ) does that consonant 's with your status ? But I will say YES its nearly consonants with the Status of Man ( You & Me & All of us, We stink the worst than rats & pig in a few days after we are dead if not buried Soon). Because They do have common sense but we have it more than them is the ONE of a few differences but in many things we are the same. but still we get VERY Angry.

God (Allah) is THE Creator and he creates by His word 'BE' and it is, and he does Not have to commit THE Cheap act of sex (means Begetting -Sire ) which is a lower animal act and act of us Humans. But your Creator Allah,'' THE DIFFERENCES '' between you And HIM is Unimaginable (see Noble Quran 31:27)

Noble Quran 31:27 '' ''And if all the trees on the earth were pens and the sea (were ink wherewith to write), with seven seas behind it to add to its (supply), yet the Words of Allah would not be exhausted. Verily, Allah is All-Mighty, All-Wise.


and You cannot compare Allah, The CREATOR to the Son of a Man ? (when you get Angry for comparing YOU with an Animal ?) That's call SHIRK or associating Partners with Allah, the biggest unforgivable injustice for which you will BURN in hell for ever


COVENANT WITH JEWS & Christians told in the Noble Quran

5:12 ''And Allah had already taken a covenant from the Children of Israel, and We delegated from among them twelve leaders. And Allah
said, "I am with you. If you establish prayer and give zakah and believe in My messengers and support them and loan Allah a goodly
loan, I will surely remove from you your misdeeds and admit you to gardens beneath which rivers flow. But whoever of you disbelieves
after that has certainly strayed from the soundness of the way."

5;13 ''So for their breaking of the covenant We cursed them and made their hearts hard. They distort words from their [proper] usages
and have forgotten a portion of that of which they were reminded. And you will still observe deceit among them, except a few of them
. But pardon them and overlook [their misdeeds]. Indeed, Allah loves the doers of good.

5:14 ''And from those who say, "We are Christians" We took their covenant; but they forgot a portion [/b]of that of which they were
reminded. So We caused among them animosity and hatred until the Day of Resurrection. And Allah is going to inform them about what they used to do.

5:15-18 ''O People of the Scripture, there has come to you Our Messenger making clear to you much of what you used to conceal of the Scripture and overlooking much. There has come to you from Allah a light and a clear Book.''By which Allah guides those who pursue His pleasure to the ways of peace and brings them out from darknesses into the light, by His permission, and guides them to a straight path.''They have certainly disbelieved who say that Allah is Christ, the son of Mary. Say,"Then who could prevent Allah at all if He had intended to destroy Christ, the son of Mary, or his mother or everyone on the earth?
" And to Allah belongs the dominion of the heavens and the earth and whatever is between them. He creates what He wills, and Allah is over all things competent.

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Religion / Re: What Shall It Profit God to Burn People In Hell? by talibilm: 5:05pm On Dec 18, 2014
Weah96:


See this one. What if your father decided to tie your hands and legs and throw you into the river? What message does that send to the other siblings? Will they not begin to FEEL ADOPTED?

Now consider the fact that a father who does that to his son is still one million times more loving than the one who puts his son in a fire and roasts him FOREVER.

So thats why God has given us Conscience, brain, thinking. (son as an example is not grown or one cannot think ) but man can think, he thinks , compares even to buy simple things like shoes which is inly used for a year then Why should man should not think about his Creator in whose Kingdom le lives and eats his food, and drinks water and oxygen.

Thats why in islam those kids are mentally retarded will not be taken in account or punished. So its useless to argue but to turn to Allah, the Creator and bear this difficult world to acheive the Paradise which cannot come into our imagination as per the Noble Quran.

So kindly read the Noble Quran , The Last testament and listen & speak to him as this Atheist Guy did in the below video , try this Quran with explanation called tafsir

http://www.altafsir.com/Tafasir.asp?tMadhNo=2&tTafsirNo=73&tSoraNo=1&tAyahNo=2&tDisplay=yes&UserProfile=0&LanguageId=2


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xhZ00xnHIA
Religion / Re: Will Jesus Ever Come? by talibilm: 4:13am On Dec 18, 2014
sonOfLucifer:
What is taking him so long? It's been 2000 years and counting and still no sign of him. Could he have hit a star on his way back? Is he safe?
Even as a Satanist, what really grinds my gears is going out on the street and finding out that those who eagerly expect his return are least ready to receive him. I mean what gives? They are fucking around like everyone else, scamming and robbing, lying, stealing, deceiving, hateful, some real conniving bastards.
Please, whoever has the contact of the dead Jew should inform him to come pick up his sheep. Personally, I'm tired of having to interact with so many hypocrites and dullards daily.
With love, Bwalfa Selltzor.

Yes he will and Do this (in blue) to Christians & priests, pastors who make stage shows


Matthew 7:22-23Complete Jewish Bible (CJB)

22 On that Day, many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord! Didn’t we prophesy in your name? Didn’t we expel demons in your name? Didn’t we perform many miracles in your name?’ 23 Then I will tell them to their faces, ‘I never knew you! Get away from me, you workers of lawlessness!’[a]

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+7%3A22-23&version=CJB

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Religion / Re: What Shall It Profit God to Burn People In Hell? by talibilm: 4:01am On Dec 18, 2014
UncleSnr:
It is written that the evil people will burn in hell i.e. suffer for eternity, my question is that, will it make them become good, or undo the evil they have done?
What is the gain of burning them forever?

Why should your father beat you when you do drugs ?

because in Love. To be fair with the other siblings who are good & strive .

So God is LOVING & JUST TOO grin
Religion / Re: The Quranic Verse That Muslims Used To Hide by talibilm: 3:55am On Dec 18, 2014
gatiano:
eeya, you didn't understand me. this is the point where everybody both christian and muslims disagreed with me.

ALLAH, GOD, ELEDUMARE OR ANY OTHER NAME WE CALL HIM BY, This GOD is a MAN but HE is supreme in the sense that he is boundless in knowledge, wisdom and understanding, HE knows the numbers of atom in the universe, and HE knows each atom's function, this is not miracle but supreme science and mathematics. Like i said He is a MAN we can say GODMAN(IN HEBREW OR KABBALAH, ITS QODMAN).
This GOD too passes away like everybody else, HE has got his own wife, HE eats, sleeps, builds, fast, prays etc, and there is a time HE passes away too, so all of us must die. The highest number a man could live is 1000 years (depending on nutrition).
So the Originator ALLAH, created himself, studied himself and the universe, created the woman, then went to war with darkness, created some stars. whether He create other people and had his children or He created other people or just had his children, or just had children , or just created other people, i do not know. HE THE ORIGINATOR, Lived his time and passed away, gave the mantle to the next ALLAH (his son or the created), That ALLAH too, continued the creation process of creating the sun, the stars, putting them in proper socket of the solar system, HE did is part, passed on, passed the mantle to his son etc till today. We a dark skin people of the earth are the descendant of that very Originator who created self. (it is not racism). But THEY (ALLAH) ARE ONE, THAT SPIRIT OF ALLAH IS ONE, THE KNOWLEDGE IS ONE, ONE COULD BE MORE BRILLIANT THAN THE OTHER, NEVERTHELESS THEY ARE ONE, THEY DO NOT ASK FOR NOBODY'S IDEA, THUS THEY ARE INDEPENDENT. the evil lie of trinity is why WE SAY HE BEGETS NOT, NOR WAS HE BEGOTTEN. ALLAH IS THEIR TITLE (KING OF KINGS).

This is why i always persist that the black people of the world are a very extremely great people, We were also GODMAN, when we fell, and ALLAH went not showing HIMSELF to us 66 trillion years ago, We fell gradually till that fall was complete 6000 years ago we then became just "man" with the God.

i do not expect you to believe, and if you believe without your own investigation and reasoning, then always investigate. GOD had always been a MAN, He is present now.

i wonder why nigerians ask about weed, when they obviously don't know what it is. what is the diff between jungle weed, jungle grass, weed and grass?


God id God , Man is Man. A not = B though B stands next to it. Man eats, Excretes, undecided sleeps , have sex grin but God does not and do not need to do those things and free from all weakness. He is Exactly how he describes http://quran.com/112 and not how you describe . Even OT & NT
says he is form less, no image but still walks like a human and eats Buns & calf eat meat at Sara's house grin and gigles with her to give and make conceive her https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis+21%3A1-2&version=KJV

Genesis 21:1-2King James Version (KJV)

21 And the Lord visited Sarah as he had said, and the Lord did unto Sarah as he had spoken.

2 For Sarah conceived, and bare Abraham a son in his old age, at the set time of which God had spoken to him.

grin but Allah stayed in the skies to order by a word be and it is in giving Issac To Sara, similarly John, Jesus were born shows that those who give man form to God are sadly misguided and CONTRADICT against their Own Books that God is Formless and creates by the word ''

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Religion / Re: 11-year Old Christian Girl Baffles Islamic Scholar With One Simple Question by talibilm: 3:38am On Dec 18, 2014
frank317:


Good for you, as for me, I am not comfortable with such God... I think I will create my own

Sorry to reply -disturb you, frank again.

If You create that it s a Just a CREATION not the Creator .

The Creator had described himself in the Noble Quran http://quran.com/112 and also in some verses (undistorted) in the OT & THE NT but still they do against it and create his form & image.

Noble Quran 5:15-18 ''O People of the Scripture, there has come to you Our Messenger making clear to you much of what you used to conceal of the Scripture and overlooking much. There has come to you from Allah a light and a clear Book.''By which Allah guides those who pursue
His pleasure to the ways of peace and brings them out from darknesses into the light, by His permission, and guides them to a straight path.''They have certainly disbelieved who say that Allah is Christ, the son of Mary. Say, "Then who could prevent Allah at all if He had intended to destroy Christ, the son of Mary, or his mother or everyone on the earth?" And to Allah belongs the dominion of the heavens and the earth and whatever is between them. He creates what He wills, and Allah is over all things competent.[b][/b]
Religion / Re: Defending The Misquoted Noble Quran Verses & Eemaan by talibilm: 5:46pm On Dec 16, 2014
MUSLIMS DO NOT MISS THIS INFO & DOCTORS VIDEO
Religion / Re: The Quranic Verse That Muslims Used To Hide by talibilm: 5:40pm On Dec 16, 2014
ATTN: ALL: never misquote Holy books verses. Do not become frauds if you do not want to be Muslim is ok .

http://quran.com/31/17-18

The Rilwayne001 is a fraud giving wrong meaning for the above verse 17-18 .

Allah Not = yahweh= adonoi= jehovah = yhwh= hashem = God (Masculine 0r feminine)

Allah is Allah in all languages, AN UNIQUNESS to Allah alone. http://quran.com/112
Religion / Re: 11-year Old Christian Girl Baffles Islamic Scholar With One Simple Question by talibilm: 6:30am On Dec 16, 2014
frank317:


You can't make blatant confusing statement and expect me to just accept it. Do you think I have not thought about all you said before talking like this?

-You accept there is Good and evil
-Then you say God protects people who serve him
-Then you say the fact that we serve God does not mean we are free from sickness and death

I can't seem to know how to synchronize the three statements. What exactly is God protecting us from?

You know people who claim to worship God are not protected from anything... They go through good and bad ordeals just as people with different believes. God does not even protect people worshiping in the church from external attacks like bomb blast or book boys.

Since you now understand that there is reason for everything please explain to me the reason why your father died. Also care to tell me how God operates since you now understand him.

Are you kidding me? God said his people will never lack anything good? Pls look around you... Don't just quote what you think God said... Let's go practical.

Please respond to me point by point, don't leave out any question raised [/b]above because I picked them from your statement. If you leave any out I will be terribly disappointed that I even accepted to discuss with you

Hi, let me intervene .

Noble Quran gives the answer for that. Life is test . Do you think a test or exam you will be given Answers together with the test and that cant be an Exam or a test.

And also if All Praying believers are given all goods than the whole world will start to believe so if thats so God need not create Man because all angels are already doing that believing & worshiping.

Angels bowed to the Man in respect because God orders so because he is to a TEST which mountain did not dare (Quran) [b]So believing the unseen
(67:2-12)and still use your reasoning and seeking guidance from God and walking upto him is the Challenge which Men took but we forgot (Quran) like Adam forgot his comandments & age.

So Allah is all forgiving if his slave repents and returns to him.
Religion / Re: The Quranic Verse That Muslims Used To Hide by talibilm: 6:14am On Dec 16, 2014
ZKOSOSO:
What christians are saying is that your Allah is not and can never be Jehovah of the Bible!!
Simple!
Is this difficult to understand??

YAHWEH is our God not Allah of muhammed and kaaba/meccans.

Our God lives in Heaven not a blackstone hidden in a black big box in kaaba!!

Its not Simple as you think dear because we must USE our brain grin

1) Allah does not eat buns and Calf meat as Jehovah does walk & eat in Sara's house(genesis 21 : 1-2 ) so he must excrete too undecided

2) Allah creates by a word being in the Arsh by just a wrod 'BE' and ''it is'' & does not walk to Sara , gigle and do unto her to make her conceive (shame shocked ) as in above verse

3) Allah does not say something and contradict himself, he has no form and never become a weak Human who eats, sleeps after creating the world. Allah never sleeps or get tired.

4) Allah is everywhere with hisknowledge like the Sun though far 150 million kms but still near us with heat & light. the Kaaba is the First Mosque for worship of one god Rebuilt by Abraham the great Prophet.

5) None is comparable to Allah and only Allah can pass the LITMUS TEST for to be God Sura 112 http://quran.com/112
Religion / Re: The Quranic Verse That Muslims Used To Hide by talibilm: 6:07am On Dec 16, 2014
ZKOSOSO:
What christians are saying is that your Allah is not and can never be Jehovah of the Bible!!
Simple!
Is this difficult to understand??
YAHWEH is our God not Allah of muhammed and kaaba/meccans.

Our God lives in Heaven not a blackstone hidden in a black big box in kaaba!!

Its not Simple because we must USE our brain grin

1) Allah does not eat buns and Calf meat as Jehovah does walk & eat in Sara's house(genesis 21 : 1-2 ) so he must excrete too undecided

2) Allah creates by a word being in the Arsh by just a wrod 'BE' and ''it is'' & does not walk to Sara , gigle and do unto her to make her conceive (shame shocked ) as in above verse

3) Allah does not say something and contradict himself, he has no form and never become a weak Human who eats, sleeps after creating the world. Allah never sleeps or get tired.

4) Allah is everywhere with hisknowledge like the Sun though far 150 million kms but still near us with heat & light. the Kaaba is the First Mosque for worship of one god Rebuilt by Abraham the great Prophet.

5) None is comparable to Allah and only Allah can pass the LITMUS TEST for to be God Sura 112 http://quran.com/112

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Religion / Re: The Quranic Verse That Muslims Used To Hide by talibilm: 5:46am On Dec 16, 2014
grin

Anyone who dreams or prophesizes anything that is against God, or anyone who tries to turn you from God, is to be put to death. (Deuteronomy 13:5)

If anyone, even your own family suggests worshipping another God,[b] kill them. (Deuteronomy 13:6-10)

If you find out a city worships a different god, destroy the city and kill all of it's inhabitants... even the animals. (Deuteronomy 13:12-15) grin LOL

Kill anyone with a different religion. (Deuteronomy 17:2-7)." shocked

ISLAM is more Kind by receiving Jizziya tax (Muslims pay Zakat tax) and Protecting the Non muslims (2:256)

'' there is no compulsion in religion ...............''
Religion / Re: The Quranic Verse That Muslims Used To Hide by talibilm: 5:39am On Dec 16, 2014
Anyone who dreams or prophesizes anything that is against God, or anyone who tries to turn you from God, is to be put to death. (Deuteronomy 13:5)

If anyone, even your own family suggests worshipping another God,[b] kill them. (Deuteronomy 13:6-10)

If you find out a city worships a different god, destroy the city and kill all of it's inhabitants... even the animals. (Deuteronomy 13:12-15) grin LOL

Kill anyone with a different religion. (Deuteronomy 17:2-7)." shocked

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Religion / Re: 11-year Old Christian Girl Baffles Islamic Scholar With One Simple Question by talibilm: 11:17am On Dec 11, 2014
frank317:


I do use my thinking bro... So you are implying that millions who have died as a result of sickness caused by harmful viruses couldn't be protected by your God? Let me get this straight, was your God not strong enough to stop the viruses from killing his creations? [b]Or did he decide to leave the virus to kill then? [/b]Don't you have a friend or neighbour or relation who has died of sickness before? When exactly does your God decide not to protect his creation from these viruses? He protects the begger too? Ya right the begger is grateful to him for his begging state. And what does he do about the thousand of beggers who die everyday. Protection indeed.

So your reply (bolded above) has my part of reply too, Bro. our Feeble Mind only thinks to a tip of an iceberg. Allah not only Created the day but also the Night , not only Light but darkness, Not only Health but Disease. Unless you never lie in your bed for a few days with sickness you never knew the value of Health , the God Given Gift you were enjoying for all these YEARS. Once you loose your health or was about to loose your life in an big accident , when you are out of it you feel the value of your life, you feel every minute is precious. He put his afflictions on only 1 % of the population for the 99 % to learn but they do not, Those pain and suffering is a TEST for other pious to respond to them by their charity and help.

So its said in our Books Allah test us by each of us being a test for the Other. This world 's value is as per hadith

Sayyidina Sahi Ibn Sa’d (RA) reported that Allah;s Messenger (SAW) said, “ If in Allah’s sight , the world had so much worth as wing of mosquito then a infidel would never have drunk even a drop of water”[ Ibn e Majah 4110]

His system we cant understand fully because satan is always with us in our blood. So its better to submit ourselves to our Creator rather than arguing with the THE JUST . Be patient in his trials he will reward you atleast in the Hereafter and in this world too.

So our praying does not help him but to ourselves.
Religion / Re: 11-year Old Christian Girl Baffles Islamic Scholar With One Simple Question by talibilm: 4:40pm On Dec 10, 2014
frank317:


U are confused about ur religion aint u? Who does ur god protect from earthquake and germs? Are u living in Pluto?

You do not use your thinking , there are microbes every where even in your body, If Allah does not help you overcome them you are gone , into sickness and disease. Allah is providing even you who boast and Reject him.

Microbes living under the SEA Bed (7km below)convert poisonous Toxic gas cyainide into harmless or else YOU will die , amd me too. Do you know that, I saw it from discovery channel.

Once a beggar was given food by Prophet Abraham (pbuh) who refused to say bismillah so Prophet withdrew the food, and the angel appeared to him asking God has asked who are you to stop the food of my servant when i am feeding him through out his life even though I know he rejects me, so he rushed to find the beggar and ......

Noble Quran 67:30 ''Say: Have ye thought: If (all) your water were to disappear into the earth, who then could bring you gushing water? ''

So wake from your deep sleep and recognize your creator, If not You will a learn a lesson like this atheist Doctor.inshallah


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUYJwYwx-9g
Religion / Re: 11-year Old Christian Girl Baffles Islamic Scholar With One Simple Question by talibilm: 4:39pm On Dec 10, 2014
frank317:


U are confused about ur religion aint u? Who does ur god protect from earthquake and germs? Are u living in Pluto?

You do not use your Brain, there are microbes every where even in your body, If Allah does not help you overcome them you are gone , into sickness and disease. Allah is providing even you who boast and Reject him.

Microbes living under the SEA Bed (7km below)convert poisonous Toxic gas cyainide into harmless or else YOU will die , amd me too. Do you know that, I saw it from discovery channel.

Once a beggar was given food by Prophet Abraham (pbuh) who refused to say bismillah so Prophet withdrew the food, and the angel appeared to him asking God has asked who are you to stop the food of my servant when i am feeding him even though I know he rejects me, so he rushed to find the beggar and ......

So wake from your deep sleep and recognize your creator, If not You will a learn a lesson like this atheist Doctor.inshallah


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUYJwYwx-9g
Religion / Re: 11-year Old Christian Girl Baffles Islamic Scholar With One Simple Question by talibilm: 6:42am On Dec 10, 2014
Love and mercy is different. Allah does not love the sins but he is the most merciful seen from he is protecting all from all dangers accidents, earth quakes, diseases etc of his germs, his creations poisonous insects and provides food and sustenance even to his rejectors. but he is ''All just'' requires of him to punish wrong doers but he forgives those who repents and change themselves.

he is loving that's why he punishes them with problems to become better and transform into good people. like if a kid goes to drugs , will a loving Father be like a onlooker without admonishing , punishing the son for his welfare. if he does not punish means the father did not love the son. Or if the father punish a good son for the mistakes of his bad son he is unjust and not loving as well
Religion / Re: Islamic State Obeys Quran, Sells Christians As Sex Slaves For $40 by talibilm: 12:04pm On Dec 09, 2014
italo:


1. Adolf Hitler was anti Christian. Read to see how he violently persecuted the Catholic Church http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_persecution_of_the_Catholic_Church_in_Germany and tell us what you learnt.

Or are you content with your ignorance?

2. Read about these Atheist mass murderers, for starters: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mao_Zedong http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Stalin http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pol_Pot http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marxist–Leninist_atheism

Your problem is that you nairaland wannabe Atheists have zero knowledge. Your Atheism is a consequence of gross ignorance.

3. But you say my God doesn't exist.

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