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Seun:
Interesting. Can you provide the scriptural backing for this view? It seems other muslims I've spoken to aren't aware of this.


Then this section wouldn't even exist.

Seun:
If they had reduced it to 1 or 2 daily prayers, Islam would have done much better. The burden of having to pray 5 times a day is just too much.

tintingz

You say all these lies on our beloved Prophet Muhammad (SA) yet people still convert to Islam

Hear what Jesus also say;
Luke 19:27] But these enemies of mine, who did not want me to reign over them, bring them here and slay them in my presence.

Perhaps:
You know why I like Christians?
You people never fail to show how hypocritical you can be.
I mean, if anything, if you're going to accuse someone of something, you should try making sure you're not guilty of the same thing.
Anyway, you're a Igbo.
You'd never learn.


To the topic on the ground.

Someone has given an explanation to what you so very much wanted to deceive, confuse people with.

So, I'm offering to give you more explanation.
More clarification on the issue on the condition that you answer the following question.


1. What happened between God and Moses in Numbers 14?

2. Repeat Question 1 but this time use Exodus 32 instead if Numbers 14.

3. Explain Amos 7;3



If your reply is what am expecting it to be, then it's in no way I'd put up the rest of my questions for you to answer after I've given am explanation.

Salam.

annunaki2:
The more annoying thing is that his so called journey to heaven was just a story he cooked up when he was caught pants down in his mistress house when he was meant to be observing vigil. He then fabricated the lies that he bargained with Allah on how many times they should pray daily.

udatso:
I really didn't want to quote you again. When I see the way you display your ignorance, Wallahi I feel sad for you. Sometimes I wish I could put a brain in your skull.
I asked you to make a research on heaven and paradise in Islam. Instead of you to do as advised, you hastenly rushed to reply repeating same thing you have been saying since 5 years.
If you had done your research, you would have known that
1. In Islam paradise isn't heaven but paradise is in heaven
2. The prophets Muhammad (peace be upon him ) met were in different heavens and not paradise.
All my brothers have explained these verses talking about hereafter, judgement day and he'll fire to you Yet you choose to keep messing around.
This is exactly why you are ignored. After you were away from Nairaland for sometime, I hoped your coming would be the return of a human who is ready to reason and see things clearly as they are but unfortunately the reverse is the case.
A brother has answered your questions. Even though it wasn't satisfactory to you, your attitude in this first question discourages those who wanted to further explain it to you. don't expect to get any reply from any other Muslim. I for one won't be replying you in a very long time from now.
You call it "Muslims running away from your questions" , I call it "spending my time wisely"
I have a better luck teaching a coconut how to read than wasting my time on you

udatso:
Go and find out the concept of heaven and Paradise in Islam. Until you do, don't quote me again

udatso:
This is exactly why you are ignored. You reason with your nose.
He said all Muslims will cross the bridge. Wasnt Muhammad (pbuh) a Muslim? And he said the weak Muslims (lesser good deeds) will fall Into hell. So how is he contradicting himself? I wish Friendchoice recognised you earlier as truthman so he would ignore you. You are lucky to get a reply from lexiconkabir and other brother.

najib632

1In Islam heaven is a like a holy dimension and there are seven of them, hell and paradise are located in the seveth heaven and in the night Isra and Miraj he didn't goto hell first he went to Jerusalem first(Isra) before he ascended(Miraj) to the
first heaven where he met Adam A.S. then proceeded to the
second heaven where he meet John the Baptist A.S. and Jesus A.S. he then proceeded to the
3rd heaven where he met prophet Joseph A.S. then proceeded to the
fourth heaven where he met prophet Enoch A.S. then to the
5th heaven where he met prophet Aron A.S. (prophet Moses' brother)
Then to the sixth where he met prophet Musa A.S.
Then 7th heaven where He met Abraham Before he went to hell and then saw some things in paradise for more details https://m.facebook.com/notes/ummati-of-prophet-muhammad-may-peace-and-blessings-be-upon-him/14-shab-e-isra-o-miraj-the-night-journey/10151923558464918/

2. Because the jews entered your religion and changed many things such as Ishaq being used for sacrifice instead of Ismail, their reason being Ismail was born by a slave.

3. Islam being about Ismail and his mother alone is a lie because we believe in all other prophets too and we respect the prophets more than any other religion.

4. I have never heard of that and please if you have a source share it with me.

5. You see the jinns existed before us but they spread corruption and shed blood. As at then Iblis was a very pious person that because of how good he was he was able to roll with the angels. So when the corruption became too much Allah sent angels to destroy the jinn and drive their remnants into the sea.
Then God said He was going to create another beings, then tge angels told God that "are you going to make another creation that will shed blood and corrupt the earth while we glorify you and praise your name?" Then God replies with " I know that which you know not" so God made Adam A.S. before his soul was put inside him The devil used to come and inspect Adam A.S. and he could flow freely inside Adam because he(Iblis) was made out of something with lesser density than which was smoke less fire. Allah put life inside Adam A.S. God then ordered every on to bow to Adam but Iblis refused then God asked him why he arrogantly told God that he is better than Adam been he was made out of fire and Adam was made of mud(clay) So God cursed him instead of him to ask God for forgiveness he told God that he was going to mislead all of mankind then Gid told him that he (devil) will not be able to mislead those that truly believe in Him(God) So devil repeated after God and said exceptthose that truly believe in You(God) then devil became and outlaw he was still in heaven but without his honour. Adam then became lonely because the angels were busy worshipping God almighty they didn't have his time so God created Eve he then told them to stay in paradise they can eat everything but they should not eat a fruit from a certain tree the Devil saw tgus as a means and deceuved Eve using the mirror. He told Eve that any time prophet Adam went out he went to meet another woman and that woman is the one she sees in the mirror so she became jealous and devil told her that she would only be able to keep Adam by making him eat that fruit the when Adam came back she convinced him and he fell for it she ate the fruit but when Adam was about to swallow Angel Gabriel held his throat that's why men have a lump on their throats si they were cast out of heaven Adam repented and he was reunited with Eve because they fell in separate places. Devil on the other hand got married to a woman and she believed in him and his ideas they had 5 children and each of the children is incharge if a particular type of corruption and they the children have decendants who have also devoted their lives to helping the in carry it out if you want more info I want you listen to interview with a Muslim jinn on YouTube and if u want to know about Illuminati and the antichrist also on YouTube if want to download jus delete dot and www and add ss when you are watching it or about to e.g www.youtube.com to ssyoutube.com

6. The verse actually states that the stars are used for docorating the first heaven and also serves as missiles against the devils that work with magicians and soothsayers in order to destroy them when they spy at the angels in the first heaven listening to events of the next day.

7. V37.nd [remember, O Muhammad], when you said to the one on whom Allah bestowed favor and you bestowed favor, "Keep your wife and fear Allah," while you concealed within yourself that which Allah is to disclose. And you feared the people, while Allah has more right that you fear Him. So when Zayd had no longer any need for her, We married her to you in order that there not be upon the believers any discomfort concerning the wives of their adopted sons when they no longer have need of them. And ever is the command of Allah accomplished.

V38 There is not to be upon the Prophet any discomfort concerning that which Allah has imposed upon him. [This is] the established way of Allah with those [prophets] who have passed on before. And ever is the command of Allah a destiny decreed.

I hope you understand now that Allah did not say that you should cause separation between a Man and his wife so that you'll marry her but when he has divorced willingly and besides its not a compulsory act. Just as a brother said before there are things that are compulsory for us but not for the prophet and vice versa

8. The prophets that came before him

9. The Prophet (peace be upon him) as well as the Muslims had been facing Bait Al Maqdis (in Jerusalem) while worshipping, that is, they regarded it as housing the Qiblah. This practice was followed for one year and four months after migrating to Madinah. It was the Prophet’s desire that the Kaaba be made the Qiblah for prayers as did the other Arab converts to Islam, for they had been holding the sanctuary at Makkah in a reverential regard since time immemorial. To them the house of worship built by Ibrahim and Ismail (peace be upon them both) was the holiest of the holy ones, incomparable in sanctity to any other sanctum or shrine. They were put to a severe test by being asked to face Jerusalem instead of the Kaaba and they withstood this trial by dutifully obeying the divine command.

“Prophet Muhammad used to supplicate to Allah and look at the sky, waiting for Allah’s command.” (Tafsir Ibn Kathir)

Such was their devotion to the Prophet (peace be upon him) that they always replied, whether they found anything to their linking or not.

“We hear, and we obey,” [Surah Al-Nur 24:51] and: “We believe therein: The whole is from our Lord,” [Surah Al'-Imran 3:7]

Thus, after the faith of the earliest Muslims had been brought to a test and they had defied it successfully, the Qiblah for the prayer was changed to the Kaaba.

“Thus, have We made of you an Ummah justly balanced, that ye might be witnesses over the nations, and the Apostle a witness over yourselves; and We appointed the Qiblah to which thou wast used, only to test those who followed the Apostle from those who would turn on their heels (from the Faith). Indeed it was (a change) momentous, except to those guided by Allah. And never would Allah make your faith of no effect. For Allah is to all people most surely full of kindness, Most Merciful.” [Surah Al-Baqarah 2:143]

“We see the turning of thy face (for guidance to the heavens: now shall We turn thee to a Qiblah that shall please thee. Turn then Thy face in the direction of the Sacred Mosque: Wherever ye are, turn your faces in that direction. The People of the Book know well that that is the truth from their Lord, Nor is Allah unmindful of what they do.” [Surah Al-Baqarah 2:144]

The Muslims changed their direction promptly in prayer, in compliance with divine command, towards the Kaaba which was henceforth selected as the Qiblah for all the believers, living in any part of the World, for all times to come.

Sahih Bukhari :: Book #8, Hadith #392
Narrated Bara’ bin ‘Azib: Allah’s Apostle (saw) prayed facing Bait Al Maqdis for sixteen or seventeen months but he loved to face the Kaaba (at Makkah) so Allah revealed: “Verily, We have seen the turning of your face to the heaven!” (Quran 2:144) So the Prophet faced the Kaaba and the fools amongst the people namely “the Jews” said, “What has turned them from their Qiblah (Bait Al Maqdis) which they formerly observed”" (Allah revealed): “Say: ‘To Allah belongs the East and the West. He guides whom he will to a straight path’.” (Quran 2:142) A man prayed with the Prophet (facing the Kaaba) and went out. He saw some of the Ansar praying the ‘Asr prayer with their faces towards Bait Al Maqdis, he said, “I bear witness that I prayed with Allah’s Apostle facing the Kaaba.” So all the people turned their faces towards the Kaaba. For more information pls visit http://www.everymuslim.co.za/index.php/articles-menu/miscellaneous-menu/1695-change-of-the-qiblah-to-kaaba

10. Abraham practiced Monotheism and like wise the Jews its just that the Jews as at then said that Zechariah was the son of God.

talkingtruth:
Which of them is 6 or 9 years like Aisha?

Besides, I don't like the way you reason. That under age girl marriage was done in delaware does not make it right. Allah said a girl must be mature before marriage and Muhammad disobeyed that command, period.

FriendChoice:
1400 Years Ago is Different From Now





2-Child Brides in Byzantine Empire:
http://www.roman-emperors.org/aggiefran.htm




3-The Pagans of the Prophet’s time:






4-Engagement with Jubair bin Mutim:





5-Sayyidah Aisha was fit for marriage:





Narrated Sayyidah Aisha:






[b]6-Sayyida Aisha never showed her displeasure:





7. A 9-year old Thai girl gave birth:






8-It was absolutely legal:







9-Her parents never objected:





10-Muslims never concealed it:





Below are ages accepted for marriage in the past by country name

FriendChoice:
We don't have contradiction in Islam, we only have contradistinction.

Meanwhile counter the verse of your book. Or believe Christianity is false. or call your pastor to tell you the answer. That is why Jesus is s Muslim not Christian cux God is not the author of lies and confusion.


The Bible say you must go to hell because you know the truth of what God Is, you decided to worship the mortal creature, rather than the immortal creator. Bible say not Qur'an neither me nor lexiconkabir


All Christian Will Go To Hell Without Exception




Roman 1:18-25






For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.


https://www.nairaland.com/3332430/all-christians-go-hell-fire

lexiconkabir:
The scriptures of Islam is not just the Quran, but Quran and hadith, the Quran says follow Muhammad, Muhammad said he was given the Quran and something similar to it(i.e the sunnah) and he asked us to hold on tight to his sunnah(hadith), some narrations says bite on the sunnah with your back molars, this implies, Islam depends on both Quran and hadith(the authentic ones).

lexiconkabir:
Why clinge on unclear proofs where clear proofs like this exist;

It was narrated from Abu Sa’eed al-Khudri (may Allaah be pleased with him) that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “When the people of Paradise enter Paradise and the people of Hell enter Hell, Allaah will say: ‘Whoever had a mustard-seed’s weight of faith in his heart, bring him out.’ So they will bring him out, and they will come out like burned skeletons, and they will turn into charcoal. They will be thrown into the River of Life, then they will grow like seeds growing in the silt left by a flood.”

Moreover does it make sense to you that Muhammad will say with his own mouth that he will be in hell?

FriendChoice:
Crossing here below



All Christian Will Go To Hell Without Exception
@lexiconkabir



Roman 1:18-25






For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.


https://www.nairaland.com/3332430/all-christians-go-hell-fire

lexiconkabir:
Through a bridge, if you want to cross on top water through a canoe, are you in the water?

lexiconkabir:
Is crossing the same thing as entering?

lexiconkabir:
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lexiconkabir

So as we can see from the emboldened, some will enter Paradise (without entering hell) and some will enter hell, it is after that those who had an atom of faith(weak Muslims with weak faith, that their bad deeds outweighed their good deeds) will then be removed from hell.


From here again, we see that the people that once entered hell will be called jahannamiyoon, which implies SOME PEOPLE NEVER ENTERED HELL AT ALL, and in that hadith they were called people of Paradise, where the people of Paradise will call the people of hell jahannamiyoon.

And Allaah knows best