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Mediva:
what's a PM?

lol...Personal Message, I was referring to the Email feature here on NL.

mohammedmagnus:
They say the truth is with the minority not the majority. Am a proud muslim till I die, but the truth is BH and ISIS are slandering the image of Islam. That's why when peeps travel to UK malaysia and see muslims there the difference is clear. The truth is the problem in the north is poverty and illetracy, most of this suicide bombers cannot even recite the first chapter of the Quran. This is clear politics hiding under the guise of religion. As for the case of ISIS those are worst their vendetta is against america, but now the devil has helped them take it to the extreme. Dear christians please stop the insults jesus christ taught you better. The wars Muhammed fought during his time where mostly among arabs, not christians, and he fought those wars because they attacked him first. As for isreal and palastine, the Qiblah of the muslims was at Al-aqsa mosque in jerusalem before God told the muslims to reference the Kaaba later, so historically its evident that palastines have a right to the isreali land, but the isrealis said no cheating them of their right, this is one of the main reasons all this extremist sprang up

nice

Mediva:
hahaha I don't think that's a punishment ooo, by the way I can't post my number in a public forum Lol,

lol...Yeah...I figured that, thats why we hav a PM here...try to use that.

mauriceju2:
Every "peaceful" Moslem is the one that has been exposed to western(Christian) influence and this may be your condition .

Well...My parents are Christians, mayb you are right...
but I will gladly tell you Islam made me peaceful.

Mediva:
why not tell me the type of punishment u prefer, u can never tell I might change my mind.

your phone number can be a nice 1 for a start.

redgem:
Nope

I would patiently wait for it...its a story thatz worth it.

Mediva:
do u want to get punished?

LOL, that would depend entirely on the type of purnishment I get served.

BackDatAssUp:
You are destined for hell with this lie.

LOL...what lie??

BackDatAssUp:
You are destined for hell with this lie.

LOL...what lie??

Mediva:
maybe and that's why I was looking for u lol

LOL...I hope Im nt goin to get purnished for it.

mauriceju2:
Tell us where Christians stone people last in the name of Jesus, you people are very wicked, you are trying to justify evil instead of looking for a way and cooperating to stop them, Muslims are beheading people everywhere every day in the name of Islam, Allah and Muhammed, it true and can be verify , Christians are not doing the same in the name of Jesus.

Do u want to even know the sweet part, you would hardly find violence in the Quran. Nobody was ever killed for blaspheming, for apostacy, for being an infidel, nor any other thing... I wasnt justifying any kind of violence, I am not an advocate of it in any way, Muslims arent supposed to kill, all my previous points were to prove most people that condemn my religion due to some misjudged laws wrong.
I am fully against boko haram, because, they spoil the name of Muslims, and dont follow Islam in anyway.
I beliv Nigeria will find a lasting solution when you all come to beliv that this isnt a war of religion, but a war against humanity which should be stopped by us all, and you all should stop pointing fingers at my religion, cos your fingers aint clean.
The discrimination against Islam is now so much, everyone links terrorists to Islam just because they ulter some few arabic lines, anybody can know Arabic, doesnt make you a Muslim.

Salaam

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Mediva:
Lol somewhere u can never imagine.

I hope I wasnt being a bad boi there

what!?

Emnyte:
A real xtian should never kill in any case.

So, If I hav a sword, dere is a sword bside you too, and I hold the sword to the neck of your wife, or child, you would just come closer, kneel, and show me your neck?

Mediva:
tanx

where did you catch me sef...lol

Mediva:
Lol smelling like what? nice pix tho

lol...Dunno, mayb you know sumtin I dont know...thanks again, nyc pics too...

Mediva:
hahahahahahaha funny guy, don't mind me, I just like ur name

loool, thanks tho...but I smell sumfin, what aren't u telling me?

Mediva:
yes u did something wrong.

OMG...Im sorry maam, what did I do?

crotonite:
please can you kindly anwer these questions no offence.

1.during mohammeds stay on earth did he kill a human being?
2.what of jesus, did he too?

***awaiting ur answers.

Well...According to my knowledge, none of them ever took a life

chuksmarvin:
Taofeeq137
[\quote]lier, only allowed to lie to protect one's life, e.g. you prolly meet Christians that decide to take revenge for what boko haram has caused, den dey ask u if u are a Muslim in order to kill you, you are allowed to lie, as being a Christian to save your life.




I have been following ur talk with an unbiased mind and i ll like to inquire, How can one who claims to be a follower of a God ( Allah in this case) be allowed to lie to be a christian (in other words deny him) cuz of danger ?. Is the religion fair weathered? ... Do yhu imply yhu agree to be a muslim when the coast is clear and if its not, pretend not to be.
As i said i ve been following ur defense raptly, I ll like yhu to elucidate further. Thanks

P.S ...i know according to the Bible yhu have to be a total follower of christ. "..peter denied Jesus in the time of danger and he was bitter"
So christians are not told to pretend to be muslims..It's a denial of God and hence a sin. Its prolly the reason why they are being persecuted easily, because they refuse to denounce or lie or pretend.
Thanks.

ok...thanks, for having an open mind, this is the only way we can move forward,
so back to your question. I would rather answer that with 2 stories from the bible.

The Hebrew Midwives
In Exodus, Pharaoh decides to weaken the people of Israel by killing every newborn boy (Exodus 1:16).
But the midwives disobey and let the boys live. When the king of Egypt asks them why they’re doing this, they answer, “The Hebrew women ... are vigorous and give birth before the midwife comes to them” (Exodus 1:19).

Now, regardless of how vigorous the Hebrew women are, this statement is a lie. It is meant to lead Pharaoh to believe a falsehood—namely, that the midwives were doing their best to obey but just couldn’t get there in time.

Does their dishonesty displease God? It doesn’t seem like it, according to the next verse: “God was kind to the midwives and the people increased and became even more numerous.” They’re not rebuked; they’re blessed.

Rahab and the Two Spies
Another example is found in Joshua 2.
Joshua sends two men to spy out Jericho, and the king of Jericho finds out. They go to Rahab, a prostitute, and she hides them. When the king’s messengers come looking for them, she says:
“The men came to me, but I did not know where they came from. And when it was time to close the gate at dark, the men went out. Where the men went I do not know. Pursue them quickly, for you can overtake them” (Joshua 2:4–5).

The rest of the chapter tells how she believes in God and is delivered when Jericho is attacked. So the biblical interpretation of her action is that it was done from a heart of faith—even though she lied.

It can be concluded from these two stories that it is possible to be a person who fears God (like the Hebrew midwives) and who acts in faith (like Rahab) and yet feels constrained in extreme situations to oppose evil by lying.

So Christians, Muslims...Even tho we are expected to not lie, it is allowed in extreme situations, even if there would be a greater reward if we didnt even lie at all.

princejenks:
i have issues with muslims trying to quote scriptures they know little about but try to interpret literally like they are reading a book. Scriptures should be interpreted within a proper context. If christians were not so tolerant i wonder what the world would have been like with the way muslims blaspheme against christian beliefs even without provocation. Now a christian means to be christ like,christ brought the gospel which is seen in the new testament. He preached more about love for one's neighbor as one's self and not emphasy on old testament's principle of an eye for an eye which muslims still hold on to.

Lemme narrate this short story to you.

One day the Prophet(SAW) was in the mosque with some of his followers, there was a particular non-believer that would always come to the Mosque to urinate...I mean, inside the Mosque. The first time he did this, the Prophet's followers cautioned him to stop, and were abt to go and use force on him, but He (SAW) stopped them, and told them to let him finish, so he asked someone to pour a bucket of water against the urine, and told the man that the Mosque was a place of prayer, and not filth. The man kept on with this act.
Until one day, he fell ill, and couldn't carry on his act.
Noticing this, the Prophet asked that he should be checked upon, on getting there they met the man ill, and greeted him safe recovery.


Is this an eye for an eye judgement?

I dont plan on proving you wrong, tired of explaining things with no avail today...Ill just keep my ground, but I will gladly tell you everything you just said now are things you heard, you have not the slightest clue what they are abt...in short I changed my mind. Lemme prove you wrong on all.

j1mmy:
Peace = raping a 9 year old girl called Aisha

The idea to match Aisha with Muhammad was suggested by Khawlah bint Hakim...dunno what rape means in your English, but she was legally bethroted to him

Peace = telling your followers their duty is to forcefully convert others

There shall be no compulsion in acceptance of the religion. The right course has become clear from the wrong. So whoever disbelieves in false gods and believes in Allah has grasped the most trustworthy handhold with no break in it. And Allah is Hearing and Knowing.
-Surah Al-Baqarah 2:256

also
To you be your religion, and to me mine.
-Surah Al Kaafiruun 109:6

Peace = killing anyone who leaves your filthy religion

same goes with the bible on this one bro


Deuteronomy 13:6-10
"If your brother, your mother's son, or your son or daughter, or the wife you cherish, or your friend who is as your own soul, entice you secretly, saying, 'Let us go and serve other gods' (whom neither you nor your fathers have known, of the gods of the peoples who are around you, near you or far from you, from one end of the earth to the other end), you shall not yield to him or listen to him; and your eye shall not pity him, nor shall you spare or conceal him.
"But you shall surely kill him; your hand shall be first against him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people. "So you shall stone him to death because he has sought to seduce you from the LORD your God who brought you out from the land of Egypt, out of the house of slavery.

Peace = using over 100 verses to ask for the death of unbelievers

LIES LIES LIES
I need proof bro

Peace = raping the wives of prisoners in front of the prisoners

LIES...the only truth I see here is that ones slave can be the equivalent of a wife to a man, he can have sex with her, she can bear him children.

Peace = is telling your followers to deceive using lies any discussed facts about your religion

lier, only allowed to lie to protect one's life, e.g. you prolly meet Christians that decide to take revenge for what boko haram has caused, den dey ask u if u are a Muslim in order to kill you, you are allowed to lie, as being a Christian to save your life.

Peace = leaving behind a legacy that the civilized world sees as a repugnant villian.

That my BRO is terrorism, not Islam in anyway, Islamic banking is fast rising in many developed economies of the world,
Most Islamic nations radiate the beauty of a civilized world much more than most non-Islamic ones, Saudi Arabia, Indonesia, Dubai, being a few examples

Mohammed is an ancient version of cave terrorist Abu Musab Al-Zaqawi - a butcher!
and if Mohammed was alive today a drone would have dropped a 500 pound bomb on his head.

This...is your opinion, you aren't God.

WombRaiders:
When last did you hear of a Christian spraying a crowd of non Christians with bullets or beheading them or blowing himself or herself up and shouting Jehovah ?

By their seed ye shall know them.

Thats the point we are making here, a real muslim shouldnt kill anybody, for any reason, except in self defense, against the one that is about to kill you.

dckng16:
Guy u re talking trash, at the same time yarning dust
U don't even know the dip meaning of the scriptures u re quoting

LOL, so much for sum1 that understands it.

Judolisco:
how many Christians ave u seen following d above law of Moses even Jews Dnt take d law dat serious we r followers of Christ look very well again nd find aplace where Jesus instructed us to kill.

Matthew 5:17
"Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.

Matthew 5:18
For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished.

Matthew 5:19
Therefore anyone who sets aside one of the least of these commands and teaches others accordingly will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

Please who is following Jesus o?

Judolisco:
how many Christians ave u seen following d above law of Moses even Jews Dnt take d law dat serious we r followers of Christ look very well again nd find aplace where Jesus instructed us to kill.

Matthew 5:17
"Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.

Matthew 5:18
For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished.

Matthew 5:19
Therefore anyone who sets aside one of the least of these commands and teaches others accordingly will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

Please who is following Jesus o?

haibe:
quote verse 18 and 19.. it will solve your confusion

loool
Matthew 5:18
For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished.

Matthew 5:19
Therefore anyone who sets aside one of the least of these commands and teaches others accordingly will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

Even more reAssuring than 17

Reference:
Then one fateful day came Jesus to make Christians of Jews, Gentiles and hopefully muslims too so that the killing and destruction may end. Only Jesus can transform a man, a thought, an ideology and a religion. Yes our forefathers of faith did those things but those were the days of ignorance, darkness. Now we have seen the light. Muslims need the light too. Peace.

Matthew 5:17
"Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them."

hamilton62:
hahaha... justification?
have you seen any body put to death in Christianity since you were born?
at least it will tell you how vague, void and forceful Islam is

so...should we say u guys are disobedient, or you all think you are bigger than God, and will decide on which law to follow, and which to ignore?