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AlexBells:
Israel and Palestine has been at loggerheads for millennia so why are you talking as if the o7 issues is the first instance. These two events are highly unrelated

Being at loggerheads is no excuse for what happened on October 07. Or do you start raping women and killing babies because of loggerhead?

elhakiimed:
Me first:

I study in Europe with classmates from Isreal and Palestine, so its natural to feel conflicted. While I maintain a good relationship with both of them, I am not in doubt about my opinion of the crisis at Gaza.

Personally, I believe it's a genocide that Nato and UN continues to condone.


Also, I feel this period of Russian-Ukraine war helps to highlight the inequality, hypocrisy, and deprivation resulting from the Isreal-Palestine crisis.

For the first time, The West can see the irony of their government's international support.

I mean how do you seek support against genocide in Ukraine while sponsoring one yourself in Gaza?

If you know your history you will understand better and no intelligent person has ever suggested that genocide is taking place in Ukraine.
You don't seem to know the meaning of genocide.
Lastly Israel was not found guilty of commiting genocide by the international court.

Obrigardo:
Criminal trump's popularity is the same? Puleeease, no platitudes. Let's be real. The Criminal is under water. His former VP won't even back him, his former secretary of defense won't even support him, and about 42 other former cabinet members and officials who worked with him says he's an existential danger to democracy.

Did you see the crowds Liz Cheney pulled with her event in Red republican Des Moines, in Iowa? Do you even know the stats of the republican primary that had Criminal trump bleeding voters even in Florida, closed ballot for that matter?

I don't think you are a seriously objective person. Like I've always known maga cultists to be, you people are excessively stubborn to facts and changes.

Yes his former vp no longer supports him yet his is still more popular than the current president.
Biden remains the most unpopular president in modern America.
You say you don't think I am objective but you are the one doubting every poll isn't that ironic.
Even polls that are usually good to the democrats rate Biden as the most unpopular president yet you say I am not objective.
I think you should listen to what the America people are saying.
You are alone in your point of view.

perfectsusanoo:
She strong but she gas rest 4 like 3 to 5 weeks b4 chores.
Some genetically modified organisms- like women go spend more than 8 months on recuperation. But will nearly kil d man with sex later.
People are wired differently sha.

All humans are not the same. This is definitely a very strong woman.

Obrigardo:
bro, that was 2016, but the criminal lost badly to President Biden in 2020. And he's gonna lose so bad again this time because President Biden knows how to clap that criminal hard. Remember russia and wikileaks in toe with the criminal trump campaign crippled Hilary so it's quite disingenuous you are talking about her fundraising. And it was just by few thousand votes in the battle ground states though she won the Popular vote handily.
We knew we couldnt let that happen in 2020 and we won't let it happen again this November. America just can't afford a second presidency under a known criminal and a wannabe dictator.

Actually, he lost only by 40k votes in just 3 states. Biden is now much more unpopular than 4 years ago while Trump's popularity remains about the same.

Obrigardo:
I see, you are still in the past.

Whatever makes you happy my friend. We both don't know the future

Obrigardo:
Touché 😁😁

So you believe in polls that will have President Biden on top today, Criminal trump on top tomorrow, President Biden retaking the lead two days later than actual grassroots fundraising.

It's quite ignorant to think fundraising is by rich folks. I don't blame you, Criminal trump has soiled what fundraising truly means.

Hilary raised far more money than Trump and it has never been the measure.

Obrigardo:
Well you are veering off into the Criminal trump worshipping stage now. You could say he is "special" among his cult followers. But gaining with people of color?.Were you also fooled by those sham AI images that Criminal trump used to try to show that black people supports him?
The man is hated by the black community. They know he's racist as hell, even black unemployment was at its highest in his failed term.

You are just talking about your feelings but not hard data on ground.

I am taking of real polls not AI images. And he got more black votes than Mitt Romney so for a republican, he is not hated by blacks

Obrigardo:
Too bad the 4 time indicted Criminal won't win a sniff. He was beaten before when he was not even in a precarious position. And he'll be beaten like a drum now that he's all over the place with Criminal indictments.

I don't think so. He has clearly gained in popularity after the 4 indictments and he is polling great among people of color. The man is special.

Obrigardo:
Don't let the 100-people-interview-polls make you think you know what's truly real. If the excitement of having President Biden back in his second term can be found in fund raising, to me that's far better than polls interviewing boomers and gen x old people who are right leaning by the way.

I totally disagree with you. Fund raising only shows that you have rich friends and polls are the most intelligent way to find the feelings of the common man

budaatum:
See that in bold? You don't know that until votes are counted.

If dump wins my faith in the human race will very significantly reduce, and the depression I will enter will be deep and hopefully comical since I will indeed eventually overcome the pain.

Trust me I will hurt. But what I wouldn't do is abuse the Constitution of the United States of America of all places and claim I won when I lost, same way most wouldn't appreciate their kids' basketball or football team claiming they were cheated when they lose, though some might.

Few things here, the constitution of America allows you to claim you won even if you lost. Speech is protected.
Again losing your faith in humanity is a choice. You should understand that people have different choices and you should respect that.
Americans have seen 4 years of both men, so let everyone vote for the one they feel did better. I believe you are rocking Bidens America but then many others prefer Trump's America. We all know what both men offer so it's not a hard choice for all.
Lastly,I believe the third party votes will decide this election. Let's see who loses more votes to a third party.

budaatum:
See how you swerved, lol.

Very many do overcome their challenges everyday that we already do see, please, just that some of is don't expect those who create challenges with impunity to overcome us.

I think it's the Nigerian in me I guess. I wouldn't want a dump to be president of the Federal Republic of Nigeria, and I believe most Americans wouldn't want dump to be their president neither, but we'll see. And it will be interesting.

Well most Americans don't want Biden to be their president. He has the lowest favorability of any modern American president.
Ànd since you don't expect Trump to overcome these challenges, it would be interesting to discuss with you after he wins

budaatum:
Dump will "overcome everything and come out victorious" and "instantly becomes the greatest politician in the history of the world".

Just pray tell, what would dump be if he lost, which he wouldn't, of course?

Great, you don't think he would win that would make it much more interesting when he does.
No one is expected to overcome his challenges so let's see.

Obrigardo:
Sorry bro, the criminal ain't winning shit

Even if you are a us citizen, you have only one vote so wait till November for the rest of the country to decide.
One more thing, if Trump wins, he instantly becomes the greatest politician in the history of the world. To overcome everything and come out victorious would be a simply incredible.

liasmiram2567:
Your analogy is faulty. For there to be peace in Isreal there must be stoppage to occupation of Palestinian lands, Illegal settlements,killing and detention as well as apartheid and above all RECONITION of a Palestinian state side by side with Isreal in line with UN recognised pre 1967 border.ANYTHING SHORT OF THIS WILL NOT BRONG PEACE TO ISREAL AND PALESTINE. ISREAL CANNOT ERADICATE HAMAS - IT IS AN IDEOLOGY-A RESISTANCE IDEOLOGY.

Israel is not occupying Palestinian land. Again there isn't apartheid going on. Still you forget that Israel has accepted a 2 state solution multiple times and it's your people who reject it.
Again, you and I know very little about war so when you make statements like Israel can never eradicate Hamas, is it coming from your understanding of war or just your wishes.
The nazi ideology was defeated. Many ideologies have been defeated. The Biafran ideology was defeated so what exactly is your point.

[quote author=talk2hb1 post=129197771][/quote]So one willingly gave you back a land and you keep looking for excuses for bad behavior.

talk2hb1:
Isn't it obvious Isreal want them dispersed from Gaza and never come back.

You keep saying things without evidence. Was it Israel that attacked Gaza on October 07?
Did Israel not willingly hand over Gaza to the Palestinians for nothing in return?
When will you guys begin to back what you say with facts?

Obrigardo:
But maga cultists are just too stubborn to be aware of this fact - Republicans who value democracy and don't want an American under a killer putin stooge in criminal trump are peeling away in droves.

They won't understand that. Criminal trump has kept them in a trance.

The world has seen 4 years under Trump and 4 years under Biden. We all know what to expect when Trump wins.

Unfortunately, the pro-hamas group on Nairaland do not read.

God1000:
You are all the same

Yes we are the same. We depend of facts and not sentiments. If you can point out one falsehood in the entire article with facts, from today, I will be won over to your side.

talk2hb1:
For any reasonable and sensible person to believe this gibberish must be stupid, first looking at Russia-Ukrain war it's more than 2years how many civilians casualty was recorded, compared to Isreal war on Hamas for 6months more than 30,000 people have died and yet one stupid idiot try to tell us this is good war.

The Russian-Ukrain war is not an urban war. Also, unlike in Gaza, Ukrainians are being accepted as refugees in neighboring countries. Egypt is not allowing for Palestinian refugees. Gaza is one of the most densely populated cities on earth.
Every city Russia has attacked in this war has mostly been vacated before the attack. You need to educate yourself on the act of warfare. When you do, you will appreciate Israel.

God1000:
but this article is is full of lies, the writer sees nothing wrong in what Israel is doing

Oga, if we give you 2 weeks. you wouldn't be able to figure out a single lie in this article. You guys should rest.

God1000:
Such gibberish, how can any sane person praise such brutal war that has killed nearly 33,000 people mostly civilians and displaced the entire population of over 2 million people in Gaza, over 400 schools bombed, churches, mosques, markets, hospitals, UN refugee camps, world heritage sites all razed down, even cemetery was desecrated as well, deliberate starving of people by blocking food and water from reaching civilians.

An assessment by the U.S. Office of the Director of National Intelligence found that Israel dropped 29,000 tonnes of explosives on Gaza within the period of two months of this war, according to U.S officials. By comparison, the U.S. military dropped 3,678 munitions on Iraq from 2004 to 2010 according to the U.S. Central Command

This is the most irresponsible war both past and present time

Israel doesn't want the state of Palestine to exist, this war of destruction says it all

Even when you are spoon-fed with the facts, you still hold on to your falsehoods.
This war have the least percentage of civilian death than any other urban war in modern history.
This is happening because Israel is doing everything in its power to protect the innocent.
Now let me ask you a very simple question; Of the 31k dead, how many died from Hamas fire?

FireUpNow:
The war has to stop. Message passed by Israel has Ben heard loud and clear. No it's time for white flag

So if Israel stops the war now like you suggest, what do you think Hamas would do?
Have you ever given this a thought?
Since you have not, let me tell you. They would regroup, increase their numbers, and plan another October 7th.
If your house is burning and you succeed in putting out the fire in 9 rooms. Will you leave the fire to continue in the 10th room ? No.
You will make sure that no trace of the fire is left. This is what Israel must do even if it takes 10 years.

FireUpNow:
Mosquito nor dey swell up without blood. So Isreal as a country has a big brother got my back in the US and can flex muscle trying to ground Palestine. The US must cease the supply of war arsenals to Israel and let peace reign. Innocent women and children are being killed.

Innocent women and children were killed in October 7th. There are consequences for starting a war.

Thundafireseun:
my point is dollar is falling….

America might soon cease to become the world power

And Israel will fall along with America

Oga, you will have to wait for a long time. More than 70% of international trade is conducted with the dollar. Also, the entire GDP of BRICS is not up to that of the US. So yes, one day US will no longer be number one but it will not be in your life time.

God1000:
This is bad, Mr Biden is a hypocrite for doing that, he's aiding and abetting a genocide, he will later pretend as if he cares about Palestinians.

Despite all the help, netanyahu still disrespect him every now and then, is it not better to stand his ground instead of trying to please Israel all the time.

He should stop playing games and politics with innocent lives


I will never worship any country all in the name of God's chosen, they need to see other people as humans and treat them with dignity.

Nobody is a child of devil, God created us all.

Have you ever asked why the US supports Israel? Biden right now is between the rock and a hard place. He is losing the Moslem vote and that could cost him the election but on the other hand, the American Jews are very powerful. They control banking and Hollywood and many other industries. You don't want to annoy them. So some how, I pity Biden. Then again, Israel is not doing any wrong so he should support them.

essentialone:
Yes because it caught my attention

Lol ok oh.

essentialone:
Dont be harsh

Lol. Oga do you want to resurrect a 2 years ago thread?

MightyNigerian:
Ah, at this stage I won't argue with you because your kind of sentiment is beyond reasoning.
I told you names on UNN Supplementary lists is usually more than what you have on merit lists and I proved it with many evidences for more than 1 departments. You're here capping another thing again. There's no sch in any other region outside SE where supplementary (backdoor admission) list names are more than merit list names.

Just so you know UNN & other SE Schs are well known for going beyond quota. There's no Federal sch in the North or SW that goes beyond the extra 10% allowed for overadmission. SE do theirs in hundreds and I've proven it. That's why JAMB queried them in the screenshot I attached earlier.

As for the quota, stop beating about the bush. I've told you the quota for UNN Nursing is 75 as at 2022 admission.
What else do you want.
I'll attach another screenshot for UNN Nursing quota as at 2022 maybe it can remove part of the sentiment that's preventing you from understanding the previous proofs I sent earlier. It was UNN herself that confirmed these quota for different med courses part of which someone has proven before on this thread with screenshots from MDCN portal.

If you can't open your eyes and head to think straight without sentiment at this juncture, sorry I can't help you again because it's obvious you know what's up but just choose to hide from the truth

You are a comedian.
You not present a screenshot of UNN clearing itself of over admitting as evidence of over admitting. Don't you see how funny you are?
Really, you are the only one with tribalistic sentiments here and it's affecting your understanding.

Aussie2doc:
You really think this is a competition? I really don’t care about your childish comparison. We are only exposing the fallacy of your position about better education standards because of higher fraudulent admissions.

By the way, find some screenshots of the approved quotas for nursing schools in Nigeria as at 2023 and tell me why anyone should complain?
If the SE is actually filling up the approved quotas of places in medical school, we will applaud them. No one will complain about nursing school because it relatively reflects the approved quota.

You keep exposing yourself with your childish arguments.
You believe that these same institutions refuse to cash in when it comes to nursing but would only do so as regards medicine?
That makes no sense.
This alone puts holes in your argument.
If you are serious, the only evidence you should present is the allotted quota to each school in Nigeria and the final number of admissions for each school.
This will give up the perfect picture of which school is over admitting.
You've had almost a week to do this but clearly, you can't give what you don't have.

MightyNigerian:
tctrills
What do you have to say to this. There're more proofs actually.

No one is saying SE isn't doing fine in medical courses. The argument is the data given is overbloated because of overadmission at a level that is not seen in other regions. That makes the data a misrepresentation.
This is why I said Induction number which is a bit regulated by regulatory body should be used and not admitted students

First question.
Where is it stated that UNN nursing quota is 75.
Secondly, you keep showing just one school and using it as narrative for an entire zone. How does that make sense?
Thirdly, you have zero data on schools in other geopolitical zones so we have nothing to compare.
Is UNN the only school that allows for a UNN Supplementary list and are UNN Supplementary lists against the law?
Lastly, did the SW shoot above it's nursing quota?