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Beverlyjean:
U are posting crap...what they know messi fans for ( padding) u for add number of players dribbled... we are talking about the past 6yrs...from 2014 till date... u are showing me I get am b4 property...

Messi has been crap for the past 5 yrs...only winning la liga titles and cups...he is nothing but a domestic champion...someone that hasnt appeared in a CL final in 5 yrs going to 6 yrs ...u not serious ... in the last WC , he was a disaster ,could only score nigeria ( his usual opponent that he can intimidate) the last copa America, hu could only score on penalty and a red card ... even Lewandowski and modric have achieved more than him in the past 5 yrs... y wudnt he b winning golden boot yr in yr out when he understands the league more than any other player in that Spanish league...we are watching him this season .... the players that made him great in barca have all disappeared and he has switched to Argentina messi

Yes.....it was Ronaldo vs Juventus in Champions League Final and
It was also Ronaldo vs Liverpool in Champions League 2018
Lol....see this comedian attaching Madrid Team Laurel to Ronaldo's individual record.....yes he achieved it all alone.....let him achieve it all alone now in Juve na..
Baba can't even see Semi finals

Since he left Madrid....Tell me what he achieved for himself o?.....I don't even need to add the one he achieved for Juve....cause he's achieved nothing for them.


because Ronaldo hasn't won a golden boot since 2015, my man is giving excuses of the incompetent...

Also, I want u to be around on the day of Messi's retirement....so that u can erase the other years of his career and leave only last 6 years...

joviegghead:


If Koeman plays the wrong players, it has to be Messi's fault

How I wish this was a WhatsApp group....Na to just kick out most of these Messi haters.....no joy

Beverlyjean:
Only messi fans see finals as a trophy... by the way... the king just rounded the keeper and scored within 3 mins he came bk after covid 19... ur dwarf is still waiting for free penalties

Let him use it to win his 6th Balon d'Or

Beverlyjean:
Messi is not above ronaldo and can never b above him... using only la liga to shine ...he hasn't appeared in a final outside spain in 6 yrs .....

copa America finales nko
See this Oga....at the end of their careers, when comparing them both, they'll use only last 6 years as reference right??.... comedian

Beverlyjean:
U just wasted precious time posting total crap... i dont even know whr to start from cos u are totally confused... u talk about goals...what has his goals achieved for him in national team... every great South American player should at least win the copa America... cruyff won 3 CL titles and multiple league titles and also lead Holland to the final of the WC but never won any international trophy... same as di Stefano... di stefanos highest goal scorer in the CL was a record for half a century b4 it was broken by raul... messi like them both hasnt achieved nothing internationally

See ur life.....Every great South American player should at least win the Copa America.....yet Messi is above Ronaldo who has won Euro in the list..or Is Messi not a Copa American player??
And also Cruyff and Alfredo de Stefano who didn't win shit are in the List of greatest players based on people's vote all over the world.....u see now that ur bitter opinion doesn't matter.... People that recognise greatness are very much different from you.....

The earlier u start accepting the fact that Messi will always be above Ronaldo on every poll, the better for u.

Beverlyjean:
Check out the Spanish national team between 08 and 2013... that was barcas best years ... its very clear that those players I mentioned were the reason messi was on top of his game... even though messi is Argentina top scorer, he has never scored really important goals ... 70 percent of his goals for Argentina came in friendlys... only a person without reason or fanatic will put messi in top 5 ... i ask again, whats the difference between messi , cryuff and di Stefano...

Please make me understand....what do u mean by Spanish national team of 08 to 13....how did it affect Barca please?....and who are the 'those players'.....u mentioned Xavi, iniesta, Alves and Neymar.....How does Alves and Neymar relate to the Spain national team...
What are u saying.... explain to me...

But first, don't say what u don't know....do u knw wat 70percent is??..... it's not up to 50percent....OKAY?.... it's 34 goals in friendlies.....or are u tellin me tht the remaining 37 goals aren't important....SMH

Dou know that friendlies are opportunities for countries to compete....outside their league.... that's exactly when Argentina plays against most top fifa ranking countries like Spain, france, Belgium etc....and yes, Messi has goals against them....guy it's okay that u hate Messi but abeg cut the guy slack.....even Pele no score as much as Messi against. Conmebol teams.... Messi has scored against all Conmebol countries and still has a good amount of his goals against Europe teams.....calm down bro...

How many times has Ronaldo scored against a Conmebol team??....Say u score 1000 goals against Lithuania no mean say u score Important goals for ur team....

Finally don't ask me this--- "I ask again, whats the difference between messi , cryuff and di Stefano"....ask urself....if u need some clarification, then ask....not asking me to differentiate players

Beverlyjean:
So y is he not carrying them now?? Barcas biggest mistake was selling suarez... without a player of suarez calibre, messi will remain crap... iniesta, xavi , Daniel alves, neymar and suarez really helped messi in barca...suarez was the remaining general and since then, messi has been activated to Argentinas messi

We know ur type...why didn't u add Alba?

.first y'all claimed it was Xavi and Iniesta, then Dani Alves, then Neymar, now Suarez...

Don't worry, at the end of the season, you'd say it is fati or someone else.....we wait

Melvyn11:
Tlona1 please tell your fellow Barca bot to stop quoting me with trash. At the end of the 2014/2015 champions league season Messi and Ronaldo was tied on 77 champions goals each. Now king Ororo has 130goals while the other fraud has 116goals. While one was winning the champions 3 times in role the other was getting disgraced by Roma and Liverpool. 26 more appearance ko 8:2 ni

Guy behave urself...

do u also know that at the end of 2014/2015 season, Messi had just 3 european golden boots nd ur fraud had 4....Now Messi has 6 and the other fraud still has 4 since 2015.....

Maobichek:
Good morning, I didn't downplayed Messi's ability cos he is a great player OK, but look at Barca team, Coutinho was bought to replace Iniesta but he flopped and Barca loaned him to Bayern. Barca was angry with Coutinho cos he didn't play exactly or better than Iniesta. Coutinho won Champions League with Bayern and planned to continue with Bayern but Barca said no. We all know Barca as an attacking team with the best midfield, can we still say the same of Barca now ? Champion league against Atlanta was a miracle but Bayern was a disgrace. We are watching Barca so far this season and we will watch till the end of the season, thank you. NB the argument was someone saying that Messi is ahead of Pele which FIFA, BBC etc has rejected based on the statistics of their football at the World level.

Bro, first and foremost...Coutinho wasn't even a starter at bayern and Bayern didn't want him after the loan....he was on his was back to the epl most likely arsenal at that time as Barca wanted to sell him until
Koeman came in called him back

Secondly, Barcelona didn't play Atalanta....it was Napoli...and what do u mean by it was a miracle?

U can keep watching Barcelona as long as u want.... everyone knows Messi has been the one carrying Barcelona since the past 3 seasons.... If he decides not to carry Barcelona this time around, we can't complain...he clearly wanted to leave...

Maobichek:
I didn't doubt Messi ability and I would never do, in the subject above, you sees Messi as the greatest and not Pele whom BBC, FIFA and proclaimed as the best. The question you didn't answer is, Messi in Barca and Messi in Argentina, which of the two do you prefer? I have no issue with Ronaldo because Messi is better than him but we are looking at Messi and Pele. World Cup is the highest football tournament and not UEFA Champions League nor any other league, Pele's statistics is 92 matches with 77 goal, with 3 World Cup trophy but Messi has played 140 times for Argentina and the thread showed his total goals and number of World Cup trophy won, thank you.

Bro, chill....I never compared Messi and Pele nor do I rate Messi the greatest...read my comments.....I never watched Pele play so I can't tell..... I'm talking about Messi's generation..... he's the best.

obonujoker:
Like he stands out for Argentina abi

See this man...
Messi is Argentina top scorer and top copa America assister
Won best Argentine player record 12 times
World cup golden ball
Copa America golden ball....

But to u, he doesn't stand out....show me a better Argentina Player in the last decade.

CalvinGaye:
Who is this one

From what Pit were you uprooted from??

You Monkey! Don't let me start with you now.

He is and forever will remain THE BEST and of ALL GENERATIONS.

Lol, I don't av anything to tell u..... you are a diehard fan of Ronaldo and so it's very difficult to swallow pills like this...... he's the best of all generation..... we've heard you..... But ur opinion didnt matter in the poll

Maobichek:
Have you watched Messi play for Argentine? the same Messi who plays for Argentine is the same for Barca, Can you compare Messi in Argentina and Messi in Barca? The difference is clear OK. In Barca, Iniesta and Xavier were the engine room, if you remember South Africa World Cup, Both of them were doing the magic and David Villa was scoring the goal, Spain took the cup home, Messi played that tournerment but was not seen. In Barca, Messi is seen by many but Iniesta and Xavier were not recognize but since they both left, look at Barca, last year Barca miraculously won Atlanta but against Bayern you knew what happened. Thank God Messi is still at Barca and we all can attest Messi performance now and let us watch him till the end of the season again. Do you want to talk about age? Bayern is still with last year squad and Muller is still playing and older than all Barca players. The major problem Barca has is that you guys saw Messi to be bigger than the entire Barca and Iniesta and Xavier efforts were nothing because Messi was there. Finally, Barca already have a strong team before Messi enter, thank you.

Bro calm down, does this ur analogy also stand if Messi had won world cup 2014?.....Mind u, Messi was player of the tournament....where was the engine of Xavi and Iniesta in world cup 2014?

Also, in 2010 Xavi and Iniesta also played with arguably the greatest spanish striker in history....David Villa...so don't act as if Xavi and Iniesta played with a Mediocre forward...that spain squad comprised a lot of barca players and barca philosophy.....

No doubt Barcelona was a great team with Xavi and Iniesta...but it takes nothing away from Messi neither do we Barce fans take anything away from the duo of Xavi and Iniesta

Messi has always been a great player...with o without Xavi and Iniesta.... Individually, he stands out wherever he goes...this because, Messi keeps winning awards even with a dying Barcelona...two golden boots and a balon d'Or without Xavi nor Iniesta....

Also, mind you Mueller isn't as old as u think... He's 31 and Lewandowski is older...and FYI they are a young team...with only Lewa and Mueller older than 30 in their starting 11....plus of course Neuer...

Compare it to Barca's last season pique, Messi, busquets, Alba, Suarez, Vidal, Rakitic....all older than 30.....

Zidane199:
you called someone your GOAT and he as already lose form in his early 30s, u must be a comedian

Your goat that is in top form, please tell me when last he won a Balon dor, European golden boot, league top scorer or champions league top scorer?....yen yen yen..

FYI, Ronaldo last won a

Balon dor- 2017
European golden boot -2015
League top scorer- 2015
Champions League top scorer-2018....

But to your knowledge, he's in top form and Messi has lost all form.......the real comedian

lekki1444:
here is the real list
1-PELE
2-RONALDO DE LIMA
3-MARADONA
4-RONALDINHO
5-MESSI
6-RONALDO CR7
7-ZENEDINE ZIDANE
8-JAYJAY OKOCHA
9-ROMARIO
10-ZICO

You were making sense until u added Okocha

CalvinGaye:
Common will you shut your Stupid mouth up.
What do you know about Ronaldo fans.
He is the BEST player of this generation and the next. Fool!

Oga shut up joor....wich Generation.....one of the bests...not best

NigeriaB:
In all fairness, without sentiment, after Pele it should be CR7..

CR7 has both balloon D'Or and international trophies..

And if we are talking of just football skills in the field of play, Ronaldinho should even be above Messi

International trophies is not world cup

adexmikky:
Not 3, about 5 or 6 consecutive seasons.

Yesh I know....I'm talking of the last five years....he won about 3 or 4 consecutively

eskorelvis:
I don't hate Messi but let him win sth with argentina which is almost 99% impossible. Ronaldo has done so against all odds

No 100% na....u can as well cancel all Copa America's and world cup until Messi retires to make it a certain 100%....

And against all odds, Ronaldo didn't win something with Portugal alone

ojaysam25:
Messi is good no doubt he is among the top 5 in the world...but I prefer Rinaldo you prefer messi...ronaldo has haters has well who he is repeatedly silence...peace.

Ok o...let him kip silencing.....
And u can prefer whomever u like....no issues

People who know who the best is know Messi

ojaysam25:
Your moniker has been duly noted...I hope you learnt something from a non barca fan...it is a shame anyway...anyway I understand you...but next time make sure to be certain before engaging someone in a conversation on nairaland

I learned that alot of barca haters hate Messi too because of what he has done to their teams, I understand.....it doesn't stop him from still trashing you though

And

I have been very clear nd certain with my answers, u clearly were not sure of ur questions...

ojaysam25:
Chai who do you this thing....so 2020 nor dey your calendar...am sure you are still in kindergarten....I pity your teachers..
Just admit you don't know or you forgot I will understand but you keep looking stupid with each reply.

So, 2020 is part of the past 5 years......tueh... This is too much dumbness exhibited by an adult or should I say a kid.....ah now I understand....not everyone is sane on Nairaland


Or are you living in 2021?

ojaysam25:
Hahahaha...so dump..so let assume I meant years not season your answer is still flaw....cuz you said 4 laliga and copal Del ray this past five years...

Haaa....dis is the height of ignorance nd dumbness.....u no sabi ball.....

2015, 2016, 2018 and 2019, Barcelona won laliga.....4 times in the last 5years

2015, 2016, 2017, and 2018 Barcelona won copa del rey......4 times in the last 5 years

Now think about ur life

ojaysam25:
I want to ignore you but I am fond of ignorant fellow like you...I ask you how many trophy barca won this past 5years....and you are insinuating that I should have said seasons rather not years when we are talking football....common sense which is not common can not tell you I mean football seasons....I weep for you

U see ur life....how can I insinuate ur own question...They are clearly.two different things which u clearly never knew and that's why ur ignorance has been shown to all of Nairaland....

Next time be sure of ur questions....I clearly answered u thinking u knew wat u were doing.... clearly u don't

ojaysam25:
OK let me help you,it seems English is not you first language,how many copal dey ray this past two seasons(seems you dont know year and season are thesame)2018/19 and 2019/2020..
Let me just save you and myself much stress,barca won nothing last season I hope you know,the preceding season they lost the copal dey ray to Valencia and were knockout of UCL by Liverpool Meaning they won just la liga...
Realmadrid won 2 laliga in the last 5 years 2016/17 and last season plus barca did not win copal Del ray these past two seasons....do your mathematics and see weather it still tally with the number you put up there...
Now,if youre still going to display ignorance after this...then I am done with you.

U see ur life na and ur ignorance..... u have gone from years to seasons.... it's clear you now realize how much u av bin typing rubbish.....

Now I'm sure u are chatting from an Isolation center.....

Since last 2 years, Barcelona has won 4 trophies....2laliga trophies, 1 supercopa and 1 copa del rey
Since last 2 seasons, Barcelona has won 2 trophies.....a laliga trophy and a supercopa trophy...



How can u come to Nairaland to claim a calendar year and a football season are the same.....I weep for you

ojaysam25:
OK I will help you out,it is getting embarrassing already...how many trophy has messi or barca won in the last two years? Did they win the copal Del ray these past two years? Please don't mention me again till you provide this answers correctly

Now u are talking....ask with respect if u dnt knw

But it's still obvious u failed maths in school....last 2years, in 2018..... Barcelona defeated sevilla 5-0 to win its 30th copa del rey trophy...

And since 2 years ago, Barcelona has won about 4 trophies...

If u are scared of me mentioning you, make sure u get ur stats right before typing on Nairaland

ojaysam25:
I will advice you get a TV cuz its obvious you don't watch match from the comfort of your home....Perhaps you follow via live scores or pay to watch,so whenever you don't have money to watch in viewing center you resort to your livescore which is more often I guess...
Listen I am not a barca fan but I am an ardent fan of football, at least google is cheap if you can't afford to follow football consistently..next time make use of it rather than exposing your self as a football neophyte...
Go through the bolded thoroughly and ask any barca fan around you who is more vast with football to help you out....

So dumb reply..... seriously, i expected better....how can you type up to ten lines without making a single sense...

Yes Barcelona won both the league and copa del rey 4 times in 5 years, where's the lie??.....u don't watch ball neither are u a Barca fan....so I understand

eskorelvis:
"....etc" ? Hahahahahhaaaaah I laff, so when people say show wat u won for ur senior national team, a whole Messi will be bringing u21 "MEDAL"? It's not even a trophy sef. U no dey shame! Players like Isco, Neymar etc have won u21 good before. It's IRRELEVANT! Noone regards d junior medals, when talking abt football internationally, we look at wat d player has for his senior teams and currently Messi has ZERO! Copa America sef he no get but Saurez, Neymar, Cavani, Jesus, Firminio, Arthur, Thiago Silva etc etc etc all have and ur goat has ZERO!
Golden ball is NOT a senior intl trophy and it will never be mister man. Just cry dey go abeg, loooool

U see why ur Analogy is so dumb?....

Are these players u mentioned dat won Copa America better than Messi because they won the Copa America??....

If u say yes, den u're delusional...if no, then die the Analogy.. it just shows how much u re clouded by hate...
Man got to the final of the world cup.. something Ronaldo can only dream of...there was a 50-50 chance of him being a world cup winner...it doesn't make him a winner, yes I know... but u can't deny that it takes a great player and hardwork to get to that stage.....Even the world of football wanted him to win it...so just die the idea of comparing jesus, firmino to Messi...it shows that's only what you've got to bring to the argument.

Same Analogy, griezmann, kroos, Giroud won the world cup, what stops ur goat from getting to the final not to talk of winning it?

ojaysam25:
That why I said you know nothing about football....last season messi won golden boot in la liga but his tally of 25 goals would have not been enough in 3 of Europe top 5 league,so from your analogy because he won la liga boot last season,does that make him score more than ronaldo last season....
Ronaldo won UCL(club greatest tournament) golden boot 6 consecutive season won 4 UCl during that period what has messi golden boots benefits barca in the last 5years...

It's obvious u re surfing Nairaland with a Radio...
Who spoke about laliga golden boot?...
Incase u don't know, Messi has won the European golden boot 3 times in a row before Immobile took the recent one...

You have been shouting goals since we started, but Ronaldo has struggled to win league golden boot not to talk of European golden boot since 2015....mtch


And just so u know, Barcelona won the leagure 4 times in 5 years and league cup 4 times also in the last 5years since u want to know if Messi's goals achieved anything....ask realmadrid how much the league title they won last season mattered to them....

And I hear u say 6 consecutive golden boots?...I guess u mean champions League top scorer 6 times consecutively

Please show me the picture of Ronaldo holding his champions League golden boot....

If not, next time make sure u re an ardent football fan before u come to Nairaland to talk rubbish

eskorelvis:
Ronaldo has won all d kinds of trophies Messi has won in his career, even awards too but Messi can't say d same, loooooooooool. Ur goat is still under Maradona's shadow

See this man, don't say what you don't know..

Only Messi and Maradonna have won both the U21 and world cup golden ball..... Show me Ronaldo's..

Messi has an Olympic gold medal...etc

eskorelvis:
...they refused to give it to him according u to and all of a sudden it's no big deal, I laffff! U said it urself, even d lowest of players has won it, Messi can't say d same, even intl spoon sef he no get talkless of cup

Yes, it's no big deal cause even the lowest of players win it....can you say thesame for other awards like balon d'Or, golden boot or world cup golden ball?...
These are awards meant for players who have proven themselves hence the reason y i said, no big deal


And yes with the team, he's won nothing with the AFA, can you say thesame individually?

ojaysam25:
I give up on you@bolded....I am sure you follow football via livescore....you don't know the meaning of back to back to back...google on it....cuz you know nothing about football...

See this kid....Oga,
I'm talking individually, not Team record....so, if u re talking abt UCL top scorer, yes Ronaldo was the UCL top scorer for 3 seasons bck to back,...show us the award he won by being top scorer.....afterall Messi also did it, 4 times...we are talking of top scorer chart that give u awards....e.g golden boot......

You have been shouting goals, show me Ronaldo's golden boot since 5 years ago...



.... at least that's a measure of determining ur goalscoring prowess...